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The Canceled James Cameron Spider-Man Movie: The Amazing Spider-Man - Canned Goods 

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In 1990, Spider-Man found its movie rights at Carolco Pictures, and soon found itself in the hands of James Cameron, fresh off of Terminator 2. Cameron’s take on Spidey was set to be a dark and gritty retelling of his origin, with him fighting Electro and The Sandman as his first villains. Casting rumors swirled that tied Leonardo DiCaprio and Arnold Schwarzenegger to the project, though the project never actually got far enough to cast anybody. The movie was cancelled by a perfect storm of relatively minor issues which all compounded at the worst possible time.
Though, some elements of this scriptment eventually found their way into 2002’s Spider-Man, most famously, Peter Parker’s organic web shooters.
So today, we'll walk through the development, plot and cancellation of James Cameron’s The Amazing Spider-Man.
Enjoy!
00:00 Intro
00:34 James Cameron’s Spider-Man Development
03:38 James Cameron’s Spider-Man Plot Breakdown
17:54 Why Did James Cameron’s Spider-Man Get Cancelled?
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@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
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@robertbermudez4526
@robertbermudez4526 2 года назад
Also can you do king kong vs frankenstein cancelled lost film in the next canned goods video as well
@klyanadkmorr
@klyanadkmorr 2 года назад
Half of it was in Tobey Maguire Spiderman movies
@bclr6843
@bclr6843 2 года назад
It wasn’t exactly cancelled. Nobody cancels anything he’s thinking about. It just become Sam raimi’s
@SlingMeAWeb
@SlingMeAWeb 2 года назад
It's crazy how much of this ultimately ended up being used in Raimi's Spidey and Webb's Spidey.
@brandonspain12345
@brandonspain12345 2 года назад
Right down to the movie being titled "The Amazing Spider-Man"
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
And the organic web shooters!
@SlingMeAWeb
@SlingMeAWeb 2 года назад
@@HemmasStudios_ Even beyond that: MJ as the first love interest who dated Flash in SM1, the tattoo being on Ben's killer in TASM1, Strand wanting to work with Spidey like Goblin did in SM1, etc. Bonkers!
@BadBoyBird
@BadBoyBird 2 года назад
@@brandonspain12345 lol yeah
@rodrigopadilla2144
@rodrigopadilla2144 2 года назад
@@HemmasStudios_ hey do the original version of dragon ball evolution script pls
@osmanyousif7849
@osmanyousif7849 2 года назад
I heard that R Lee Ermey was meant to be J Jonah Jameson in one of these unproduced Spider-Man films. And I have to say, while I like JK Simmons, I never though of Ermey. But then I remember Full Metal Jacket, and I thought, "Yeah, he'd work."....
@MrBlueSkyof1607
@MrBlueSkyof1607 2 года назад
I remember that too.
@billymontgomery4830
@billymontgomery4830 2 года назад
Wrong. Thats Not and Never was True...Sorry.
@normanmccultureboy6492
@normanmccultureboy6492 2 года назад
JK Simmons IS J. Jonah Jameson
@PeterParker-ff7ub
@PeterParker-ff7ub 2 года назад
Awful
@crashpal
@crashpal 2 года назад
@@normanmccultureboy6492 Srs Simmons is J Jonah Jameson
@KellsKats
@KellsKats 2 года назад
“… He and his sheets are covered in a sticky white substance.” HUH!? “He notices that it’s coming from his wrists.” Phew…
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
That’s just the tip of the iceberg. The scriptment is VERY sexually charged. One of the first things you learn about Peter is that he’s a virgin, which ultimately has no bearing on the plot. I get it- the powers are supposed to represent puberty, but it’s super gratuitous in this.
@michwashington
@michwashington 2 года назад
😂
@Aodhan_Raith
@Aodhan_Raith 2 года назад
No one is talking about how James Cameron was the first one to come up with the idea of natural webbing for Peter. At least film wise.
@nowlan2
@nowlan2 2 года назад
Idk why he doesn’t have natural webbing makes no sense 😂
@KunyeeYT
@KunyeeYT 2 года назад
@@nowlan2 web shooters are a great little toy.
@candycorn4912
@candycorn4912 2 года назад
@@KunyeeYT shows Peter's intelligence as well
@theangryvoltorb8638
@theangryvoltorb8638 2 года назад
@@nowlan2 The question is, where is the webbing stored?
@bryanlabady9825
@bryanlabady9825 2 года назад
@@nowlan2 for real. But I heard it was because Stan Lee wanted to show how smart Peter Parker really was, so he developed web shooters. So instead of natural webbing, he would use his brains to create Webs. Which is still kinda off but idk
@lucidmind9676
@lucidmind9676 2 года назад
I actually think James Cameron would’ve made a very interesting Spider-Man film but I guess it’s a good thing it never happened because we would’ve most likely never had gotten the Raimi series. Crazy how timing can change everything
@ssjgotenks2009
@ssjgotenks2009 2 года назад
mybe back tghen but not now he wodo ruin it look what did to dark fate he ruin the movie
@Cloud-9_C9
@Cloud-9_C9 2 года назад
@@ssjgotenks2009 he didn't make that one he produced it, he's more centered around the Avatar sequel right now or has been for the longest time
@iamfriendly6483
@iamfriendly6483 2 года назад
its not interesting at all the closest we get to a dark part of peter parker was in nwh
@agfagaevart
@agfagaevart 2 года назад
@@ssjgotenks2009 He didn't direct that movie. and he had disagreements with the guy who did!
@palmoart
@palmoart 2 года назад
@@ssjgotenks2009 You must be the guy who think Steven Spielberg ruined Transformers.
@averagejoe2402
@averagejoe2402 2 года назад
I remember seeing the Spider-Man costume meant for this movie and liking it. It felt very old school. As for the actual script, I think it would be been good. Peter was a morally conflicted character, and was often a jackass. Very accurate and realistic. I didn't like the Electro/ Kingpin hybrid. Thought that was odd.
@danieltorresjr.698
@danieltorresjr.698 2 года назад
Where did you see it? I don’t think they ever got to make a costume for the movie
@averagejoe2402
@averagejoe2402 2 года назад
m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GxvIMKNryEQ.html This is a video that contains storyboards of the movie. The costume shows up there a lot. Also, if you look up “James Cameron Spider-Man” there’s posters that have the costume. It was never made, but that was the general idea for the costume.
@brandonspain12345
@brandonspain12345 2 года назад
@@averagejoe2402 That was actually a fan made storyboards by artist Daniele Tomasi in 2001. Way after the movie's development. He assumed it would look like the 70s series costume. The video's thumbnail was the real concept art as seen in James Cameron's recent Tech Noir book. There's even a concept art of him in the black suit (21:36) and he said in his book he wanted the symbiote saga to be in a possible sequel and said he was a huge fan of Venom.
@dislikebutton9941
@dislikebutton9941 2 года назад
“With great powaaa comes great responsibiliteh aeughh!” -Arnold Schwarzenegger
@carlfjnon
@carlfjnon 2 года назад
Helloo Peetaaah
@otheryoutubeChannel
@otheryoutubeChannel 2 года назад
He was meant to be doctor octopus ??
@CHUNIOR05
@CHUNIOR05 2 года назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I can’t
@CHUNIOR05
@CHUNIOR05 2 года назад
@@carlfjnon 😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
@KingOfTheMonsters07
@KingOfTheMonsters07 2 года назад
"Da powa of da Sun, in da pulm of mah hand, DAUGGGHHHHHHHHH"
@tsuaririndoku
@tsuaririndoku 2 года назад
Peter: I’m gonna put some Titanic in your eye Doc Ock: The powa of da Chopper, in a palm of my hand.
@austinpopdan4190
@austinpopdan4190 2 года назад
Fun fact: This treatment is the reason the Sandman wasn't in Spider-Man: The Animated Series.
@JnAtleti
@JnAtleti 2 года назад
Crazy to think Tobey’s best friend almost got the role before him, everything would’ve changed
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
It probably would have had such far reaching repercussions that we wouldn’t even be able to consider.
@SB992REBORN
@SB992REBORN Год назад
​@@HemmasStudios_ superhero films would not be a thing and 911 would have destroyed Hollywood and entertainment. Thank Stan Lee, Sam Raimi, Tobey, and Danny Elfman for reviving hope in humanity with Spider-Man just seven months later! Spiderman saved movie theaters and America in its hopeful and campy awesomeness and optimism!
@SB992REBORN
@SB992REBORN Год назад
​​@@HemmasStudios_ by the way, people, CAMPY IS NOT GARBAGE.... CAMPY IS AWESOME AND NORMAL!!!!!!!!!! LIGHTHEARTEDNESS IS HUMAN! BE HAPPY AND LAUGH AND ENJOY THE LIGHTHEARTEDNESS OF SAM RAIMIS SPIDER-MAN AND DONNERS SUPERMAN AND JOEL SCHUMACHERS BATMAN AND ROBIN (even if it is also dark, imo it's fun but dark and epic and colorful and emotional and strange and awesome and yeahs) (YEAH I SAID IT)!!
@Catkeeper
@Catkeeper 2 года назад
Part of me really wishes this film happened but mainly for the dark weirdness, but we still got that with Raimi's near perfect take. Plus some of his scenes had the darkness, grit, and weirdness in spades, like Spiderman defending MJ from attackers in a dark alley, the final punch up between Peter and Norman, Otto's arms coming to life and killing yhe surgeons trying to save him, or Spidey's brutal take down of Sandman in the subway.
@scatterbrainedreviews
@scatterbrainedreviews 2 года назад
I didn’t expect to think that if you cut out the Peter being a creep, this is a pretty interesting sounding story. The pacing would definitely fascinate me, it sound like a lot for one origing film but honestly it sounds cool! However, Raimi and Webb are fiiine with me!!!
@reversalmushroom
@reversalmushroom 2 года назад
I guess I'm not much put off by the creepy protag trope as you because I grew up with it and consider it normal. How many protagonists have we seen since before the mid-2000s that liked to spy on women? Even kids shows like Danny Phantom and Naruto had it.
@scatterbrainedreviews
@scatterbrainedreviews 2 года назад
@@reversalmushroom I mean I grew up around it too, Spiderman 1 does it for a second funny enough, doesn’t make it any less dated though. If something feels dated, it just does.
@shadowmaster452
@shadowmaster452 2 года назад
I feel it actually makes sense with Peter being a nerd who's rejected and bullied at school. This type of person irl would probably get a little obsessed if they develop a crush on someone as pretty as MJ to the point of stalking her sometimes. IMO this movie could've been good but with the Raimi trilogy existing it's just a cool what-if for another timeline.
@Web720
@Web720 2 года назад
It's for realism, guys creeping on girls seems pretty realistic, a nerdy guy with powers, yeah I expect this 100%.
@zevac
@zevac 2 года назад
How trippy would it be to live in a world with an R rated 90s Spider-Man movie movie directed by the dude fresh of terminator 2?
@lukesams3349
@lukesams3349 2 года назад
Funny to think that if DeCaprio had become Spider-Man, his close friend Tobey would’ve stayed an unknown
@buckdancer8916
@buckdancer8916 2 года назад
Dunno about unknown, his role in the cider house rules probably would of seen him still get alot of high profile roles in the 2000s.
@ryanarmitage872
@ryanarmitage872 2 года назад
Dicaprio was the one that actually recommended Tobey for the role
@RonanStreamkiller
@RonanStreamkiller 2 года назад
This definitely feels like an early draft, it would've been great to have seen a polished final version with the same care that Terminator and Alien had. But I'm still happy we have the Raimi films.
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 года назад
Yeah. This sounds like it needs a lot of polish. Interesting enough starting place, but needs polish.
@Sloan_ManofTMRW
@Sloan_ManofTMRW Год назад
Call me crazy, but I think an angsty version Spider-Man that’s slightly more violent towards criminals could make sense, if executed properly. Think about it, Peter Parker was bullied a lot in high school by people like Flash Thompson. Maybe Cameron’s film could’ve explored how the bullying would rub off on Peter in a negative way that also affects how he operates as Spider-Man
@Rant.
@Rant. Год назад
The ultimate story line is this. They made a game for it and a show that is loosely based on the comics but the comic run was really good and the origin of miles morales.
@alpharunt1588
@alpharunt1588 Год назад
He was never really bullied in way we think of it, basically everyone who trash talked him tried repeatedly to invite him out to do stuff, and he always said no, and was kinda rude about it, dude was friendless mostly by choice, and a touch of autism
@DJMooseKnuckle
@DJMooseKnuckle 2 года назад
That’s crazy to learn all of this. To think we could’ve had an entire different Spider-Man with Leo. Not even to mention the fact with the plot, sounds very 90’s and probably no studio would agree to make it this day. Really glad Tobey got to play the part and Sam for directing. Otherwise we probably wouldn’t see Tobey and Andrew along with Tom in no way home!
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
I totally agree with you. If Leo was Spidey, it would have had a butterfly effect of if and when the series would have gotten rebooted and the popularity of superhero movies in general. Crazy to think about
@metalmario1267
@metalmario1267 2 года назад
Spoiler alert 😒
@mihneadoesnotdjent
@mihneadoesnotdjent 2 года назад
I think if that film was created Spider-Man reputation was no longer now
@tbaskerv138
@tbaskerv138 2 года назад
Between the consistencies in the Raimi version and the original 2001 trailer - there is no doubt that they originally set out to make this version and then the studio made the drastic changes. And…Arnold immediately felt like a sandman to me.
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
Fun fact: the studio was originally going to use an expanded version of this story for the movie, but at some point it changed.
@muffin8030
@muffin8030 2 года назад
This movie sounds so strange and confusing! I’m honestly glad it wasn’t made because I cannot see leo dicaprio as a mean, gritty Peter Parker. I’m so happy we got Sam Raimi’s trilogy!
@Gideon13397
@Gideon13397 2 года назад
Somebody else would have taken the role.
@Gennaropacchiano
@Gennaropacchiano 2 года назад
“… He and his sheets are covered in a sticky white substance.” We've all been there, Pete. We've all been there.
@93djkardiak
@93djkardiak 2 года назад
Supposedly Electro and Sandman couldn't be used in the 90s animated series because of this movie. So it's it's kind of a shame to hear how lame their back stories and characterizations in this script were. I'm glad this never got made lol.
@Facade953
@Facade953 2 года назад
Electro was eventually used as Red Skull's son and Sandman was about to be introduced in the cancelled season.
@MBM1117727
@MBM1117727 2 года назад
@@Facade953 yeah but that was last minute in the final season after the movie was cancelled
@CPMest81
@CPMest81 2 года назад
I remember as an 80s kid all the hype for a spiderman movie. Surprise surprise it all came down to money and ego's that this didn't get made.
@davidjames579
@davidjames579 2 года назад
Has anyone heard how Cameron came on board Spider-Man? First he was going to produce and possibly write an X-Men movie directed by his then wife, Kathryn Bigalow. He met with Marvel. Everything was going great, and all parties were excited about making the movie. Then Stan Lee said, you know what'd be great, a Spider-Man movie. Cameron then started gushing like a fanboy with Stan about this, and the X Men movie was never discussed again.
@TheFinalFlesh
@TheFinalFlesh 2 года назад
Am I the only one who thinks that young Leo would’ve been an great casting choice for an Ultimate Spider-Man movie?
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
I totally agree
@strangeavocado9279
@strangeavocado9279 2 года назад
He’s the spitting image of Ultimate Spidey in some pictures
@hunterthehound21
@hunterthehound21 2 года назад
He has blonde hair so nah
@nshs831
@nshs831 2 года назад
It would have been amazing
@alexkyrylivk5102
@alexkyrylivk5102 2 года назад
Agreed
@miekwavesoundlab
@miekwavesoundlab 2 года назад
It would be fun to see a multiverse Leo Spidey cameo like a old version of Spider-Man in spider verse cross over. Kind of like how Matt Daimon played Loki for a minute in Thor.
@donnae1899
@donnae1899 Месяц назад
Beyond The Spider-Verse Maybe?
@samismid3311
@samismid3311 Год назад
The spidey before the ultimate comics exist
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ Год назад
I often wonder if this somehow had any sort of influence on Ultimate Spider-Man
@wallygator92
@wallygator92 Год назад
Fun fact because of this movie we never got Sandman in Spider-Man the animated series and Electro didn't appear until the final season
@arhester
@arhester 2 года назад
They almost had to name 'the amazing spiderman' to 'the spectacular spiderman' to not get confused
@mosthated.e.2422
@mosthated.e.2422 2 года назад
Somewhere in our multiverse this movie was made and it’s a classic
@haidynfern5596
@haidynfern5596 2 года назад
You should definitely talk about the cancelled Incredible Hulk movie from the mid 90’s, where it was in development hell until Ang Lee took head of directing and made Hulk in 2003, making the movie be very different then to what it was in the 90’s. One script I have a copy from 2000 is still retains most of the storyline from the 90’s movie, and it’s pretty strange.
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
I can definitely look into it!
@SP8inc
@SP8inc 2 года назад
Can't be stranger than the 2003 movie tbh.
@Yarblocosifilitico
@Yarblocosifilitico 2 года назад
Di Caprio as Peter would probably have been iconic
@miklac90
@miklac90 2 года назад
I actually like this story better than amazing 1 and homecoming. Especially the part about Spiderman going on tv shows to earn money. That’s directly ripped from the og comics. And lot of the motives of the characters make sense to me. Like mj/teenager seeking love to escape real world problems, peter acting selfish and being emotionally driven (that’s also exactly how he is in the first issue). It’s actually more believable for me for Spiderman to be not the first of his kind and those with these gifts are already in power behind the scenes quietly seeking others like them. Electro using negative media/smear campaign by bribing jj to turn Spiderman into a vigilante is a really nice tie in.
@hyliannerd4541
@hyliannerd4541 2 года назад
I heard James Cameron's Spiderman a lot of times but it's good to hear your take on it plus I would love Leonardo DiCaprio as Spiderman
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
Thank you so much!
@StriderStryker
@StriderStryker 2 года назад
I really like the draft plot, but I think it is best to cut out the *“kiss” mating from the bridge* scene. _I mean, they are high schoolers and it wouldn’t aged well if it exists today._
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 года назад
That sounds mental. Proof that stories often need the be filtered through a few people to get rid of the most insane or terrible ideas.
@javierpena7241
@javierpena7241 2 года назад
Imagine a young Leonardo DiCaprio as the Ultimate Spider-Man ? since the ultimate spider-man was skinny & looked so much younger in the comics and also Leonardo also had that ultimate Spider-Man Peter Parker hairstyle too back than when he younger honestly that would’ve been perfect right there
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
He definitely has the look of Ultimate Peter
@snakes3425
@snakes3425 2 года назад
20th Century Fox: No James, we don't want the rights. Spider-Man is finished after this Bankruptcy deal (Eight Spider-Man, and two Venom, Movies and a small country's worth of money in Sony and Disney's pockets later) 20th Century Fox (as it's annexed into Disney's empire): D'OH!!!!
@donnae1899
@donnae1899 Месяц назад
(as it’s annexed into Disney’s empire): D’OH!!!! That Was Only For The X-Men/Fantastic 4
@K_J_Coleman_Composer
@K_J_Coleman_Composer 2 года назад
No cap, this is pretty good. We need a "Stories of Spider-Man" series where they tell interesting and compelling variations of Spider-man, including this
@NathansNostalgia
@NathansNostalgia 2 года назад
I actually own an original copy of the “scriptment” complete with emails from Columbia Tristar. I have always just referred to it as “The Cameron Treatment”. You did a great job summing up the the treatment and history of it. I learned a lot about it’s origin from your video! Thank you very much for helping me piece this all together!
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
You are very welcome!
@clonejvt
@clonejvt 2 года назад
To be honest, this is basically Raimi's Spiderman just with a different villain
@badv1b3s51
@badv1b3s51 2 года назад
The rights to spider-man have ALWAYS been such a huge dilemma.
@Gideon13397
@Gideon13397 2 года назад
Jason Voorhees: Hold my machete.
@liamearly4883
@liamearly4883 2 года назад
It would be cool to see this script to get adapted into a graphic novel, or as a mini series of comics. Kind of how DC has done comics based on the 60s 70s Batman and wonder woman shows, the Chris reeves Superman and Burton Batman movies. So with that idea marvel could adapt it into a comic
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
DC has always been great about doing that, I’ve always wondered why Marvel never did something similar.
@liamearly4883
@liamearly4883 2 года назад
@@HemmasStudios_ my only real guess is whatever studios owns the rights to the scripts. That's probably the only reason. But who knows
@darthnutsack6717
@darthnutsack6717 2 года назад
Whenever I think of James Cameron that one South Park episode with the "oh oh oh James Camerooon" song plays in my head when he was lowering himself into the ocean trying to raise the bar or check how low the bar has lowered I forget.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 2 года назад
It is kinda strange that he uses Electro and Sandman but he changes their names?
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
It’s definitely a strange choice, the only explanation I could think of was so that the reveal of their powers would be a surprise. But still- trailers would have given that fact away…
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 2 года назад
@@HemmasStudios_ right and especially not wearing there iconic costumes as well
@mickeymouse7726
@mickeymouse7726 2 года назад
I don't like it either they should have stuck to the characters original comic book accurate names Electro being Max Dillon and Sandman being Flint Marko
@jaeblack4752
@jaeblack4752 2 года назад
Not going to lie, seeing Terminator 2 I would have been very interested in how Cameron handled Sandman with a whole decade of VFX progress from the 80s
@SonicPAJ
@SonicPAJ 2 года назад
Honestly, a lot of moments are similar to what we got in Raimi's film.
@sashikalachoudhury1803
@sashikalachoudhury1803 2 года назад
And then James Cameron was one of the first directors to be approached for directing the first amazing Spider-Man film
@AllanElMelon1043
@AllanElMelon1043 2 года назад
Its crazy to think that if this movie was made, it wouldve changed the history of cinema in the 2000s and beyond.
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
This movie being made would have definitely had a MASSIVE butterfly effect. Superhero movies and the way they’re made likely would be totally foreign. It’s definitely an interesting thought.
@tylertilwick6852
@tylertilwick6852 2 года назад
Honestly, 86-Electro and Sandman and keep Arnold Schwarzenegger as Doc Ock and the rest of the cast - this could’ve been a KICK-ASS movie!
@thetimturnershow2883
@thetimturnershow2883 Год назад
I would’ve loved to see this interpretation of Spider-Man. With a bit of ironing out in the script and story department, I could’ve seen it becoming a truly great superhero movie. I mean hey, with all the factory-produced superhero movies we’re getting now from Marvel and DC, it’s time we get different interpretations of our favorite beloved characters.
@osmanyousif7849
@osmanyousif7849 2 года назад
I can definite see the MCU take these story ideas for the next 3 Spider-Man films after No Way Home, except maybe with Villains like Kingpin, Tombsome, Mr Negative, and Hammerhead, with a bit of an Enforcers storyline and with Felicia Hardy/Black Cat being a new love interest for Peter.
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
I would love to see Black Cat become a major player in these movies
@owenprice7688
@owenprice7688 2 года назад
Imagine peter parker saying “say hello to my little friend” and webbing up a criminal
@YeeterDeleter_
@YeeterDeleter_ 2 года назад
for people who prefer dark and gritty storylines, this movie is for them, however, the way it's displayed in the script personally doesn't make it appealing to me, i can't root for this Peter, the villain choices are kinda wack for this type of story and the undertones kinda put me off overall
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
This is said so eloquently. I love it. The fact that it’s dark isn’t inherently bad. The way it’s portrayed and fleshed out is what puts me off from it, as well.
@AWSNATION
@AWSNATION Год назад
This Peter is the most realistic though
@derekmason1881
@derekmason1881 2 года назад
You should do a video on Dan Ackroyd's original script for Ghostbusters where they were more like a time traveling, dimension hopping SWAT like team in the future.
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
Wait- WHAT? This sounds DOPE.
@jefferyfrederick28
@jefferyfrederick28 2 года назад
They could never bring his vision to life only aspects of it … no better time then now would I love to see his vision on Spider-Man
@FTSKARAOLD
@FTSKARAOLD Год назад
Arnold Schwarzenegger as Sand Man would have been the perfect casting.
@derekmason1881
@derekmason1881 2 года назад
This is actually quite interesting. Somebody should make this into a One-shot or Graphic Novel, or straight to DVD animated DCAU style
@fries.mp3813
@fries.mp3813 2 года назад
Imagine Arnold as venom he looks like the 1994 Spider-Man Eddie Brock and is already built
@meninpapin
@meninpapin 2 года назад
He was the one who came up with the idea of organic webs since peter was too young to develope such a complex scientific device & artificial webbing.
@andrewmedley
@andrewmedley Год назад
Nope I have see kids nowadays made a cool test device
@zombiedalekweck2243
@zombiedalekweck2243 2 года назад
I mean I wouldn't mind a darker Spider-man first film, like I expect him to lighten up and crack jokes later on though because Spidey just isn't that much of a dark hero, maybe if you decide to step into alternative universes where you find Spider-men like Assassin Spider-man. But overall it's good for a first movie of Spidey trying to find himself and tbh, if you gave a teen superpowers they definitely would do what he did in this movie.
@LowDoughTech
@LowDoughTech 2 года назад
I remember reading a "supposed" Cameron script before the first Raimi movie came out. The only thing I remember about it was that Doc Ock said "Okey Dokey" a lot... it was kind of distracting, actually.
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
That script is the one that Cameron slapped his name on that he was never going to use!
@voltageesq.
@voltageesq. 11 месяцев назад
W-was it supposed to be OCKY DOCKY :D
@PatLund
@PatLund 2 года назад
Peter being an asshole and kinda creepy is actually pretty accurate to the original comics.
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
Oh, yeah, for sure. But by the same token, I personally feel like the original comics do a lot of work to also make Peter somebody you could root for. I don’t think this story gets you there, but if Cameron got to make it, maybe he would have gotten us to root for him.
@SwiftPacks123
@SwiftPacks123 2 года назад
yeah accurate from comics is bad, look at tom holland, too much accurate ends up being ironboy and dumb spidey which is the worst spiderman ever made
@decade9026
@decade9026 2 года назад
Damn,anorld playing doc oc is something I didn’t know i want
@harrylane4
@harrylane4 2 года назад
It’s so interesting that Cameron almost fell into the same trappings that dozens of directors have fallen into since with superhero films. An obsession with “gritty realism” just doesn’t work for a character like spider-man. Period. He’s a dude who climbs up walls in a bright red suit, and won’t stop making jokes.
@ScooterinAB
@ScooterinAB 2 года назад
To be fair, it was the edgy as fuck 90s. Every story was going grimdark since Miller's Dark Knight and the like.
@matthewlee7794
@matthewlee7794 2 года назад
There are tons of gritty spiderman stories from the comics.
@Shockkings0714
@Shockkings0714 Год назад
What a load of garbage. There are plenty of gritty and dark Spiderman stories
@fionn_mac_ribs
@fionn_mac_ribs Год назад
The goal with a character with Spider-Man is to make it emotionally realistic. Spider-Man stories are character driven and it wouldn’t work if the characters weren’t authentic seeming people.
@ThatOneDude521
@ThatOneDude521 Год назад
I’ve always wanted to see a bright Spider-Man in a dark world. I’m currently writing a Spider-Man series set in the 90’s with grunge/alternative rock as a backdrop. The world is dark and gritty, but Peter Parker/Spider-Man is the beacon of light and hope.
@boom9448
@boom9448 2 года назад
imagine if this version of spider-man came in no way home
@Ghostofcalmaity
@Ghostofcalmaity 2 года назад
This is genuinely an interesting story ngl I would like to this script as a movie Of course a little more smoother on the edges
@lucaskennington9101
@lucaskennington9101 2 года назад
Imagine Schwarzenegger as Hammerhead.
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 2 года назад
I would have love to have seen John Hughes direct a Spiderman film
@Nablo
@Nablo 2 года назад
Do videos on the previous cancelled spiderman films like canon picture's many unused drafts etc
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
The Cannon Spider-Man saga is definitely going to get covered on this channel at some point.
@bird20040
@bird20040 2 года назад
@@HemmasStudios_ why would the creator of tcm work on this movie
@ThatOneDude521
@ThatOneDude521 Год назад
I’m currently working on a Spider-Man series of my own, and surprisingly, this scriptment (along with the Ultimate comics) are big influences. It’s not a direct rip but the series is set in the 90’s with grunge/alternative rock as the score and backdrop. Peter uses music (namely Soundgarden) to cope with his situation and the world is really dark and gritty, however Peter is bright, happy, optimistic and acts as the beacon of light in a world of darkness. Sure he has moments where he wants to give up but he always remembers to keep his head up and do the right thing. It’s still in the planning stages so many aspects are subject to change but me and a close friend of mine are always making small bits of progress :)
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ Год назад
That sounds so fun!
@brandonspain12345
@brandonspain12345 2 года назад
I honestly really liked Cameron's treatment, and it's better than what people say. I didn't mind the darker tone because that's what was popular in the early 90s after the success of Batman 89. (Despite Batman Returns and TMNT 1990 effecting darker adaptations from happening.) I also liked the more aggressive Peter because that's the kind of kid that would act like that being bullied. I also prefer this Electro over the comic where he's basically Donald Trump with powers. (Come to think, this cartoony villain wouldn't be so cartoonish nowadays.) The suit's description sounded directly from the comics and even the large triangle lenses sounded McFarlane. And Camsron understood Peter's consequences and his responsibilities he has to learn. The downsides are some of the humors Is VERY 90s and really structure of the plot too. Also, M.J.'s character was really bitchy at first but thankfully she grew on me near the end. David Koepp wanted to use Cameron's story for the 2002 movie back in 1999 before using Goblin and Doc Ock and he even made a full script of Cameron's you can read on his website. Another thing is that because this would in the 90s, many things would be real on camera, a actual set, a real man swinging screws the city via helicopter, and Leonardo DeCaprio would actually wear a real suit on set that isn't covered in CG. And most of the effects I bet would look amazing with Sandamn, Electro's powers and Spider-Man's swinging shots. While I still love the Raimi trilogy better, It could've been fascinating to see this. If you're a fan of the TASM film, you're more likely to like this scriptment than if you're fan of Raimi's with the darker tone and more rebellious Peter. But Spidey is still here and there's still good highlights in there as well.
@Gideon13397
@Gideon13397 2 года назад
James Cameron would have definitely went full on with the CG though. He's pretty well known for that. Honestly, I think this would have turned out awful but in a good way, I for one would have liked to see it just for the experience of those bizarre sounding subplots. I can't count how many times I've read the treatment, half of it is actually decent, the other half is dull, weird and just plain stupid. Still this concept should be made as a fan film imo.
@spectacularpoopfly8464
@spectacularpoopfly8464 2 года назад
A dark Spider-Man story that I enjoyed was the old Spider-Man manga from the 70s in that one he accidentally kills his first super villain because he mistakenly went full force with one of his punches which is what causes him to be more responsible with his powers warning some pages / chapters are missing some pages aren't even translated but overall it is a decent read
@MariDaVinci
@MariDaVinci 2 года назад
TMNT 1990 was a pretty dark film for tmnt but the second and third movie, uh..
@Gideon13397
@Gideon13397 2 года назад
@@MariDaVinci Really? I thought that the tone was fairly balanced. Other than the Shredder mentioning he murdered Splinter's Sensei out of jealousy, but that was pretty much it. The second one had Vanilla Ice and Super Shredder, so it was a 10/10 win for me.
@MariDaVinci
@MariDaVinci 2 года назад
@@Gideon13397 The first one was pretty dark for it's time the others that came after weren't so much, in the second one the turtles didn't even use their weapons
@jamesheatherly4209
@jamesheatherly4209 2 года назад
I’m glad we didn’t get this R rated Spider Man film, because if we did, then one of the greatest Superheroe movie trilogy would’ve never happened. And we kind of got that style with Spider-Man Noir.Can you please do an episode on The Amazing Spider Man 3?
@brandonspain12345
@brandonspain12345 2 года назад
Okay. I'm just gonna say it... This movie was NOT supposed to be rated R!!!! I am sick in tired of all these articles/vids saying it. All because it has ONE F-bomb? There so many PG-13 movies that had at least one in there. The sex scene on the bridge never went too graphic or any nudity in the scriptment. By that logic, Howard the Duck should be rated R because there was a sex scene in there. That was how 90s movies were made at at time. Even if everything was filmed, James Cameron would've had to take scenes like that out since this would out by a time when superhero movies were being geared towards children and a time when the 1994 Spider-Man series was just out. (The show couldn't have anyone say "kill" or "die" and guns had to have Lazer sounds) so can you imagine the amount of censored ship they would've used. Hell, Batman Returns's original script had R rated material taken out, like a scene with children being taken away and murdered by Penguin's circus gang, or the Penguin giving Catwoman a umbrella with a dildo in it. (Geuss what was left in the movie?)
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
I’m sure we’ll cover Amazing 3 at some point :D
@teddybear8348
@teddybear8348 2 года назад
@@brandonspain12345 how close mind you are the movie was a r rating because it would also show a graphic violent
@valerianusvilippomaldini4698
@valerianusvilippomaldini4698 2 года назад
@@HemmasStudios_ please i want to see a Cancelled Sinister Six Movie
@Chillllllllllllllllllllllll
@Chillllllllllllllllllllllll 2 года назад
@@brandonspain12345 do you know violence can cause a rated r
@YoshiKiller2S
@YoshiKiller2S 2 года назад
Another amazing plot breakdown, keep it up.
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
Thank you so much for the kind words!
@SocksFC
@SocksFC 2 года назад
Tbh I think if this film was released today as just a standalone film, it could be successful with its darker tone that’ll help to stick out amongst the other superhero films of today. Also this seems most accurate to his comic origins where he acted like a dick before properly developing as Spider-Man
@reggieb3691
@reggieb3691 2 года назад
This one doesn’t sounds terrible just doesn’t sound like Spider-Man in the beginning. It’s like I don’t know I feel like even tho Rami was not a Spider-Man fan when he made the film it felt like Spider-Man this one sounds like a anti hero lol
@TuPapiSuave69
@TuPapiSuave69 2 года назад
It would had been great. I don’t know if Tobey would had been so loved as he is now because technically he’s the original Spider-Man for us. Plus, I won’t believe Tobey would had been Spider-Man at all.
@jonofarrell9249
@jonofarrell9249 2 года назад
Would be crazy if they throw Dicaprio as a Spiderman variant in Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
For sure! As long as it fit the story of Multiverse of Madness, I’d love to see that
@TheQuatum
@TheQuatum 2 года назад
There was a lot of good and a lot of bad in this script. It would be nice to see a meaner Spider-Man in live action, considering he wasn't always a nice guy. The cynicism of the script was perfect though, that's what Spider-Man is at heart.
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
I definitely think it would have been an interesting take, and I do agree with there being a ton of good in this script. But I ultimately think that starting Peter off this mean makes it harder for you to root for him.
@mainstreetsaint36
@mainstreetsaint36 2 года назад
Not to that degree, at least to me.
@AbandonedVoid
@AbandonedVoid 2 года назад
I agree completely. It's bizarre that people want to make Spider-Man as morally pure as Superman to me. He was an immature, attention-seeking, cynical incel that lashed out at criminals because he was getting bullied and became friends with the notorious show-off Johnny Storm. They made a car together even though neither of them needed one. Watching him always improving but never quite becoming a full-on hero was the whole draw to his early run; you didn't root for him, you wanted to see the responsibilities he had to shoulder slowly turn him into a better person.
@AbandonedVoid
@AbandonedVoid 2 года назад
@@HemmasStudios_ You weren't supposed to root for Spider-Man. You were supposed to be invested in seeing this sorry jerkass rise up to the occasion and become a better person.
@charlestonobryant807
@charlestonobryant807 2 года назад
@@AbandonedVoid I don’t think that’s entirely true. While Peter did struggle a lot and wasn’t as altruistic at first, he was written to be more relatable than other heroes. He deals with real world problems and acts like most at the time would. He isn’t perfect cause people aren’t, and those imperfections and struggles are what attached to so many people. I think the closest we got to a Peter like this is actually Andrew Garfield’s. Until he saves the family on the bridge, he’s immature, selfish, and angry at the world, similar to his run.
@Kusanagikaiser999
@Kusanagikaiser999 2 года назад
There is a lot of Spiderman 1 and Amazing Spiderman in this script, from how Peter get his power, the angsty Peter have in his lash to Ben in Amazing Spiderman and the tattoo of Ben's killer in his hand, the organic Web shooters , his first kiss with MJ after beating some badguys in an alley...still not better than what we actually got with Raimi and eventually Webb, still you can see some blue prints of what James was cooking on the final products of Sam Raimi and Marc Webb Spiderman's films.
@ProJatior
@ProJatior 2 года назад
Besides the sneaking to watch MJ... thing the progression of her character in this as far as her and Peters relationship is much better. That might be do to how she’s used in SM2 and much of 3. Especially since I don’t buy how Peter acted before the symbiosis after he went through this emotional distress in 2 then finally got her. I like the shy Peter we get in the Raimi movies though I’ve been told it’s not quite to that extreme in the comics. That’s fine by me I relate to it more. MJ herself never developed into the awesome supportive character in the Raimi movies. That might be due to studio interference with 3. I think Sam was dangling that carrot but it hadn’t delivered that proper crunch.
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
I think about that a lot- had they just left Raimi be on 3, how that relationship would be different.
@ProJatior
@ProJatior 2 года назад
We would also have more movies... probably.
@K_J_Coleman_Composer
@K_J_Coleman_Composer 2 года назад
"The multiverse is a concept about which we know frighteningly little"
@gambeano
@gambeano 2 года назад
I would've had faith with James. I mean he had titanic, terminator, alien under his belt. I see Raimi's films as perfect as spiderman can get, im happy with what we got, for the best. But this script gets written off too quickly by sensitive surface skimmers. Yea you're not wrong in thinking Peter's a bit creepy but its on paper. Terminator on paper wasn't supposed to work lol and it should be obvious that it was an earlyish script. Like I said I can't imagine anyone else doing such a good job as Sam did but James Cameron doing an actual marvel superhero movie is definitely intriguing.
@yonimeller
@yonimeller 2 года назад
Peter basically using his power as Spider-Man to non-consensually bang MJ is super messed up though, I feel like if they cut that from the script and released it as is this would've been one of those obscure Spider-Man movies like the Japanese one.
@graffitikingdom4081
@graffitikingdom4081 2 года назад
Imagine if they allowed all three directors under the whole multiverse system to take place one after the other, James Cameron, Sam rami and web. that would be awsome! We'd get to see sams spiderman 3 conclusion, James Camerons take on a darker version of spidey and webs version too! All under the marvel multiverse.
@DangerousMoonwalkerOfficial
@DangerousMoonwalkerOfficial 2 года назад
If he dialed the violence and creepiness down it would be a perfect movie
@wesleypatterson2989
@wesleypatterson2989 2 года назад
As someone who hopes to write novels someday, it comforts me greatly to know that the same man who wrote Titanic also wrote "Their mouths very slowly and very sensually devour each other"
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
This is one of the best comments I've seen in a long time
@Gabreya
@Gabreya 2 года назад
+Wesley Patterson INDEED. Call me crazy but I kind of don’t mind the love scene in this script.
@Powherkrangunch
@Powherkrangunch 2 года назад
Hey this is my third video from your channel. At first I suspected that this channel was just like Supervoid Cinema, I'm pleasantly surprised to say although your channels are similar the way you talk about movie scripts is kinda different with how you use stick figures, and puppets, while Supervoid uses more clip edits and scenes from from miscellaneous media. Anyways your script tellings are fun in their own way, so I'm happy to watch both channels. Maybe the two of you should do a collab sometime, That could be interesting!
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
Thank you for the kind words! Funnily enough, I didn’t even know of Supervoid until after I started doing these videos, once I found his channel, I was hooked. Doing a collab with him would be absolutely wild.
@lex_rodriguez
@lex_rodriguez 2 года назад
I'm sure a lot of these ideas would be changed with the final draft and while shooting. Wpuld have been interesting to see!
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
It would have at the very least been an interesting watch- that's James Cameron's superpower :P
@gokushkameha-ha-ha9344
@gokushkameha-ha-ha9344 2 года назад
First of all, bro, you are above and beyond with community comment interaction and support. Wow, props! I retract my negetive comment on tasm, I however praise and thank you for your work! Great information, great presentation
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
Thank you for the kind words! I try to interact with every comment, even the ones I don’t agree with (as long as nobody is being intentionally mean, of course). I want everybody to feel heard and feel like they have a voice here.
@coreyhumm1832
@coreyhumm1832 2 года назад
This channel is amazing, its now my favorite RU-vid channel, I love the plot breakdowns, any chance you could one on the rejected sequels to the power rangers 2017?
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
Thank you so much! As for Power Rangers, I can definitely look into it!
@mafazabrar4349
@mafazabrar4349 2 года назад
That was a really cool story!! Thanks you !
@HemmasStudios_
@HemmasStudios_ 2 года назад
Glad you enjoyed!
@ninjasolarteam
@ninjasolarteam 2 года назад
the organic webbing. this was actually the concept that sam raimi uses this idea from james cameron's version
@isaiah.mcglasson
@isaiah.mcglasson 2 года назад
I rlly like the idea of electro being a Kingpin like figure, it would’ve been rlly interesting
@Andrew53670
@Andrew53670 2 года назад
it sounds to me that some of the elements from this movie were used in Sam Raimis Spiderman now I know where Raimi got some of the script from but honestly Im kinda glad we never got this version, it just doesn't sound right to me I wonder which Universe got the James Cameron Spidey Franchise with no Raimi Franchise
@maldor56
@maldor56 2 года назад
Still praying for the day interdementional cable becomes a real thing so we can watch these films
@9VK7
@9VK7 2 года назад
The part where he has to decide between saving Aunt May or giving the money back to the city reminds me of the decision he has to make in Spider-Man PS4
@oakleyhasafoot7878
@oakleyhasafoot7878 2 года назад
This movie could’ve been pretty good ngl. I doubt it would’ve been exactly like this because changes in movies happen a lot while being made, so for all we know this could’ve been better than the Raimi movies! Would’ve been interesting
@75aces97
@75aces97 2 года назад
I so wanted Cameron to direct a Spider-Man movie, and was dejected when I learned he was out, but I think it worked out for the best. If Golan ended up attached to the project in any capacity it would have been a disaster.
@theultimatememelord5494
@theultimatememelord5494 Год назад
17:09: That's the power of the Spider-splooge!
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