The Capitalist Hero - The Individual and the Collective in My Hero Academia [Part 2] 

ill pretend for that worthy youtuber bit that you meant pewdiepie just so i wont be disappointed

Also is two heroes canon

I do not like black desert online. It looks cool but it is a mess to try and figure out.

To put in 2 cents on the Mother's Basement and making money push of this video: I didn't stop liking MB because he made money. I stopped liking it because it got dull and samey and pretty lifeless. I only later learned that he started his heavy SEO optimization around the time the quality dropped, which leads me to ask the question "Did optimizing for views/money harm MB's content?" and the answer is, after looking into it as best I can, yes, this is likely to be the case. (Same shit happens to everyone.)

just like bart

No longer will the gentle green-haired shitbird labour under the explosive bourgeois.

inb4 "tHiS bUt UNiroNiCaLY"

@@batrachian149 This, but unironically.

Batman

And when everyone is super no one will be

True dat

That would be one famous McDonalds

Well, as demonstrated in the spinoff, MHA Vigilantes, there still *are* vigilantes on the loose. And pretty effective at that. But yeah, it's probably better with regulations and all

All Might at McDonald's huh? I think we've just found ourselves a new spin off series, bois.

@@yonatanhoresh2695 I was actually playing Spider-Man on PS4, the new and improved one. There is a collecible that shows that Spider-Man is overdue on his medical bills, as in he can't pay them. Sure, doing Hero work is all well and dandy but if get fucked over and locked up due to your medical bills then you can't do that. Being a hero for the sake of being a hero is lovely, but reality is much more harsher.

i mean yea

I feel like that's the ultimate sign of the capitalist victory. You now benefit from That opposition.

The Stain merch was so questionable already since he killed people but also it's fucked up that he was very much opposed to it.

@@PanAndScanBuddy Che Guevara killed or ordered killed at least 105 people, and during his regime 200 - 700 prisoners and civilians were killed. So really, Stain merch is not so far fetched, been as he killed less people. Although, the people he killed were minor celebrities, so maybe that counts for something.

@@buddermonger2000 Some "capitalists" might benefit from that but the "system" isn't (commercialization of anti-capitalist sentiment helps its growth).

Not to fully disagree, but we also have neighborhood watches, militias, and volunteer firefighters. All of which have drawbacks, but also the benefit of not being tied to capital.

To be fair though, there are countries that e.g. rely almost entirely on volunteer firefighters. Iirc even in the U.S. only about a third of all firefighters are career firefighters.

AtomicBananaPress but the point in the video was about capitalism, in mha the heroes are paid by the government like firefighters or police officers.

@@Thunder-Sky Umm...no. That is naive. There will always be the need to defend one's neighbors, ideals, and nation. Because there will ALWAYS be people out there who wish to suborn you to their ideals, regardless of how it harms you. Force is the ultimate authority, necessary to protect what is important to you.

ThunderSky if every nation agreed they’d be eaten like defenceless cattle by hundreds of ex-military, people discontent with statuesque and the power hungry who wish to rule over their nation

While I agree on your point about Stain not caring if heroes are paid he is ultimately an Allmight fanboy and would react violently if told or shown Allmight was anything but perfect. He also tried to kill a child for not embodying the career they wanted to go into.

@@shauncampbell9039 I’d love to discuss this with you but as a manga reader, I don’t know how to without spoilers

@@pj_spirit I'm caught up with the manga so spoilers aren't an issue, I'd also like to discuss this.

Lol

yea, anti capitalism isnt not paying people, its a dumb strawman to deflect criticism of capitalism

How does Stain know that?

Cool motive, still murder.

@@kodakreeeam9971 not a greedy hero? You're watching or breezing the anime? Mt lady was, in s1&2, she only cared about fame and money, only cared about being on camera, tried to seduce a seller to get a free food in s2 etc, she only just developed a bit in kamino arc, endeavor was, he only cared about strength and fame to surpass all might, that's why stain shouted at endeavor in his "last" moment, and bakugo was, he didn't care about saving people he just wanted to win, saving wasn't his priority at first, stain wants people to prioritize in saving instead of other reasons getting ahead first, he just doesn't like selfish heroes like these who do their jobs for selfish reasons, and lastly, have you forgotten that the old iida was selfish af? Stain immediately called him out on spot, his priority was to kill stain like he said instead of saving native, he really put him aside, he was blinded by his hatred and vengeance, stain called him out for not saving native, iida was selfish af and only cared about vengeance, but stain then praised deku instead as he should

@@kodakreeeam9971 wait what? Even if he did save shit tons of people, the fact that he did a quirk marriage on purpose by force is a crime, he did sacrifice the relationship with his family for his own good, that was selfish af on its own, morally he was already wrong despite having such a goal and saving a lot of people don't justify his actions in the past, he's still a good character but still, it happened. Same thing with bakugo, he was forced to save, not because he was willing to do so at first, so that's still an issue. So you're saying old iida was completely justified for commiting attempted murder despite having a reason? A selfish one? He was the embodiment of a false and selfish hero to stain, he proved his points completely, no matter what reason he had, he already committed the attempted murder crime and put native aside without mentioning him, he didn't prioritize in saving, but to KILL stain first like he said, so you're saying he was justified? Didn't that put him on the same league as the villain with actions like that? If you're a good hero you'll put your feelings aside and capture the villain INSTEAD of trying to kill him, he was as worse as stain. Just because mt lady changed "drastically" doesn't change the fact that she was selfish before, she was the embodiment of a selfish and fake hero. Stain didn't call everyone a fake hero, he acknowledged all might and deku, he was aware that heroes like these exist, that's why he decided to help deku to get away from a nomu, if a hero happens to be a selfless one and priorities in saving first, he would jump in and beat the villain up and save the hero instead and get away from being captured so he can still continue his tasks, that's his ideology

@@leeleelee7878 I already gave you the point of Mt.Lady being selfish so I'm not going to argue on that. I'm in no way justifying what Iida did, I'm saying that was literally the only time he snapped and it was only because his brother almost died. Iida's sense of justice is ridiculously strong and is his only ambition as a hero. "Muh Endeavor's forced marriage" Stain has no way of knowing that and neither does the public at large, so that point is moot. The only way the audience knows of that is through Todoroki, so unless he felt like talking about his daddy issues to a serial killer who nearly killed his friends, that point is irrelevant. Now does this make him less of a bad person, absolutely not. "Same thing with Bakugo, he was forced to save, not because he was willing to do so at first, so that's still an issue." Wait so now because he is willing to do so that still makes him a bad person? "Stain didn't call everyone a fake hero" except he did, he called out every hero for being fake and getting compensation bar All Might and later acknowledged Deku because of course he did, the MHA universe revolves around the MC by this point.

For a second there I thought you wrote Stalin instead of Stain

I thought Stain's issue with the brother was that he became a hero because "Welp, this is the family business so I might as well go with that."

@@Cyclonestorm8 No no, that was Iida's original outlook. His brother, Tensei, was motivated to hit the inspirational and kindhearted highs/standards that his sidekicks & siblings saw him as. To say in an easy to understand way: when you're a parent, or older sibling the young ones look up to you with nothing but starry eyes and sheer awe. They see you as a superhero, the ideal person, etc. Knowing how much his siblings and sidekicks looked up to him, Tensei strived to be worthy of that idealistic praise and respect. Stain essentially just assumed he was in it for glory and money, possibly because the Iida Family have always been well respected/known heroes.

From what I remember he wasn't a target but just gotten in Stain's way.

You can agree with an ideology that a piece of media portrays as bad, and that then simply also means that you disagree with that media's opinion. I don't agree with Stain's ideology because it's too reductive, as it was invented as a strawman. The show's ideology though, oh my god there sure is some garbage there. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love the show, and it's certainly better than some, but the capitalist bullshit and copaganda, no, not a fan of that. Worse than most superhero things even.

RU-vidr... I will reclaim the meaning of that word!

I will only let one man to kill me!

peWdIEpIe!!! peWDIepIe iS wOrTHy!!!

Gerko Gilhuijs With Great Power comes great economic turmoil and a balancing game of Hero Work and Life.

You can even see it in the second movie of the first trilogy. He is working as a delivery guy but fails becouse he kept on prioritazing hero work even during working hours. The only way he could make money and also keep up with his heroism was by selling photos of himself.

Marcos Bustos Ain't that just sad?

Spider-Man would likely be both happier as a person and much more effective/present to help people in the society of HeroAca.

That’s why Spiderman is almost always able to lift Thor’s hammer (as far as I remember)

Could someone fill me in on why Mother's Basement is hated?

The suit isn't armored, it's just for decoration.

@@etrules100 I think they were just pads. So yeah they will take a fist or Iida's kick but not a shiv

​​@@etrules100Probably just light padding. If they were too tough or strong they'd probably weigh him down, especially since his engines being in his elbows lends himself to high jumps rather than straight running where the legs to all the work. He'd need to be light and agile for that.

Just saying, public schools are shit because they don't need to compete for students, and hire shit teachers.

of course it was. the only thing stopping all for one vs all might figures from being on every shelf is the number of people AFO buried under buildings, the market doesn't care, it sells what people will buy.

@@Yal_Rathol has I was just surprised that he predicted it

Yal Rathol but he killed people.... That’s like a German cake shop having a cake that shows hitler appearing like a saint, while killing people with backgrounds that go against his views on the “super-race”.

@@sesereddead465 your analogy falls apart, because there is no hero in your analogy. instead, imagine someone selling a cake that shows the allies powers fighting the axis force, that's the an analog.

Yal Rathol I was talking about stain specifically getting merchandise

Webfiction in general needs more popularity. There's so much great stuff out there, but it's not super approachable to a lot of people.

What is it about?

Laken 64 uhhhh Dark Superhero story in line of Watchmen. Protagonist controls bugs within a range. Having superpowers usually necessitates going through extreme trauma to get them (kinda like the shounen trope of finding great internal power in times of crisis)

Was this his first Worm mention?

@@laken6461 parahumans.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/1-1/ Probably the best superhero deconstruction story ever. Really, really, really worth the read. Or if reading isn't your thing, the community came together to record an unabridged audiobook version audioworm.rein-online.org/ It gets... more than a little dark, to the point that even early on in the story, the author was literally rolling dice to see if characters would survive. He did this to pretty much the entire cast, including the protagonist, who he would have been happy to kill off. And it's only after that happens that the story goes off the deep end. What it does exceptionally well though is to really explore the consequences that result from people gaining essentially god-like powers, and how that effects the world at large, and by following different characters around in bonus chapters, it explores it from all angles. It's a massive and in depth exercise in world building, and is also utterly compelling. You really don't know what's going to happen next. I can't recommend it enough.

Nuanced...yeah

Was this his first Worm reference?

I read worm, but i still don't understand the joke

Was this his first Worm reference?

@@Clash_In_Saff I know I'm late, but in his first or second video(I forget which) he drops a mention of the endbringers with a picture of leviathan

I'd murder a god to hear him talk about worn

In that series the television portion almost completely hampered their ability to work. Fun abridged series too.

Thank you for mentioning Tiger & Bunny, that wonderful hero anime no one's heard of. That one's another where heroes are corporate owned and on a reality show with all the pressures that come from balancing that and truly being a good hero.

I mean... Well, look at Aizawa

As a spinoff, the low barrier of entry + extreme variability in Quirk potential would probably result in a hierarchy similar to the acting pyramid. There would be a few huge winners, a smaller pool of heroes with a decent living standard and a ton of struggling aspirants making the bare minimum. Not to mention dynasties would be all but assured despite any nominal legislation to curtail them. Considering equilibrium, I assume heroes would begin acting as an interest group and attempt to self-perpetuate their importance, artificially propping themselves up and squashing alternatives that could challenge their hegemony. It would be standard behavior for any group that seizes unchallenged control over a "market".

Was this his first Worm reference?

Jordan Spencer he said flashlight, but the joke was 100% a fleshlight

^this right here is the truth

In the great words of Dan (Game Grumps): "It's easy to call someone a sellout when... you're living with your mom... and you got everything taken care of... you know... I got medical bills, dude!"

@@danidm5820 Well thats kind of the point, dan is not walking around looking for good will from his lovelys trying to make himself look like a selfless being, he and arin are very clear that, they want to make money AS WELL as make people happy, but if they stopped making money, they would stop making videos. Sellouts are people who take the money and also want the "social reward" of being selfless and or "one of you guys"

Ehrenberg Films I’ve never really seen both my hero’s system/world and the topic of advertising and “sell outs” so perfectly summed up before. Well done

@@kamronspencer4910 I try :P

I would hope he would bolster it, as the middle class is the balwark of the capitalist ideal. You know, not only are they skilled labor, but also movers and shakers.

Looking forward to Deku overthrowing capitalism

I mean he did videos on this back in 2017

Nothing wrong with making it slightly less toxic. America especially needs a complete work around.

Or we can end capitalism so we don't keep having to struggle to survive.

@@Nanook128 Eat the rich and redistribute their obscene amount of wealth to the people who need it most, I'm all for it, but until the revolution comes we gotta get by somehow.

@@ElysianLys Deserving of wealth is not based on labor or need but by ownership, merit and contribution. You will never be able to change any of this without colossal reduction in peoples liberty and/or security.

@@Christian--- Capitalism and liberty go against each other. America has proven this time and time again.

He never said that heroes shound't receve pay, he said that when you become a hero just for the pay, without truly thinking about protect other people, you are ruining the image of heroes.

If i could, I’d ask her to open up a go fund me; we make a video of her explaining her situation, and we make it rain because she is so wholesome and sweet damn it

D O Y O U H A V E T H E C U R R E N C Y ? ? ?

A typo he decided to roll with.

Okay then

okay wait 14:25 is Too Far

Part of the reason threre can be such large in his release schedule is because he primarily does work as editor for other anime youtubers.

*Capitalism doesn't just profit off of lunch boxes. There are payday lenders and dollar tree that make millions of dollars off people being poor and desperate.* Usury existed long before capitalism was even articulated as a concept. In ancient kingdoms it used to be mandatory to forgive debts unanimously in regular cycles. *Also, crime is mainly an economic failure, in the real world.* Not true either. White-collar crime wouldn't be a term if immiseration was the sole incentive. Crime mostly exists due to a _lack_ of countervailing social influences. *In comics and superhero media, it is pretty rare to find villains that are motivated by needing money and desperation.* Usually when you have a specialized skill set, it means you have options within the market or considerable leeway to build up said set in the first place. Villains operate at a different level than crooks thanks to not being tied down by economic need.

@@chodori2041 last part is wrong too those dudes are dime in dozen im comics even if theyre henchmen and mooks mostly

Correction; There are payday lenders and dollar tree that make millions of dollars by giving people a last ditch safety net at very high risk of no return. Yeah they're predatory but in what other system will people line up and step on each other to give you shit if your poor.

'correction; thing I didn't say. a tepped agreement.'

Well you also have professional firefighters, volunteer firefighters exisf everywhere but as backup in huge emergencies. Similar to how most countries have a reserve military force.

@@cerdon4076 German firefighting force is 4% career, ~2% factory and military fire brigades and 92% volunteer fire brigades (with conscripts making up the rest). outside of big cities volunteers are the first and usually only ones to respond. Though you are correct that the medical and technical disaster relief teams are volunteer forces as well. Even in the US around two thirds of the firefighters are volunteer, you so most responses there are dealt with by volunteers too.