I'm in a tiny town in Arkansas, yet, I want to save The Carpathian Wilderness. it's the most beautiful, spectacular place, it's as ancient and wonderful in its beauty.
It's when Western Multinationals met corrupt Communist educated authorities. Liberalism meets Communism. Western Leftists meets Romanian Leftists. Up until 2004 we have been prayed upon by former Communist Party Members, now Romania is being preyed upon by the hawkish western liberals from the EU and US that come here in sheep's clothes o 'save' our country.
True liberalism is about responsibility. It is about taking the responsibility. People you're talking about are not true liberals but corporate capitalists. A kind of oligarch from the west.
Dear Lisa, what do you know about the situation in Romania? After the coup of state (not revolution !)in '89, to make room for the multinationals & western "investors", the entire Romanian Industry & Agriculture was put to the ground, and the Romanians to massively emigrate to work the cheapest & lowest positions in the west, while before "89 Romania exported only manufactured wood ( quality furniture ..),now, became the biggest exporter of row timber through exclusively two Austrian companies that they are not allowed to cut trees in their own mountain little country. And, this is only in reference to the forests of Romania, but that is about in absolutely each economical domain same situation.
Save these precious lands for the sake of all life, all of us should have this stance even if we're thousands of miles distant and never make such a journey there.
I am from the Philippines but I support your aim to help save the EUROPE'S VIRGIN FOREST - THE CARPATHIAN MOUNTAINS. Though I haven't been there yet but still I want to see these beautiful green landscapes full of diverse animals living in it. Let's help hand in hand to plant new trees in the denuded parts of these areas.
@@romaniapatriamea6977 isnt it a good thing to have tourists it helps the economy but lets just keep this place a bit secret so there wouldnt be millions of tourists
The only way to save any wild area is to make National Park. This project must be supported and protected by government. Carpathians is a true treasure!
Cristine you are absolutely correct,I've been visiting Romania now for 10 years now and am full of admiration for the people who live in the villages of Transylvania,and can live with no help from there government,or from the EU,who are not interested in helping small farmers
the way of LAWS (what protected areas are) is never the solution... as u don t get a good society by LAWS.. u get e good society by teaching what s right and wrong.. by LIVE it the right way because of UNDERSTANDING... teach your kids WHY it s important to take care of nature.. WHY it s important to be nice and respectfull to eachother and the world itself.. THEN things will change.. if u wanna give that to government (that doesn t know anything about respect and the difference between RIGHT and LEGAL) we r doomed..
6 of my great grandparents emigrated from Carpathia and sub-Carpathia to the USA in the first years of the 20th Century. They immediately became engaged in the industrial revolution at steel mills and factories in crowded cities like Pittsburgh, Chicago and NY. I can't imagine how they managed such a dramatic difference in their daily lives after coming from small villages in these mountains.
As long as the region is stricken by poverty riding on a bus to increase awareness about forests is as the Romanians say massage to a wooden leg. The inhabitants had always lived in symbiosis with nature there. The disequilibrium was brought by opening the borders with the western Europe, that brought with them the knowledge of intense deforestation.
yeah exactly, and EU has 0 interest in preserving the Carpathians, the only reason Romania was ever of interest to the west was for its natural resources which they want to exhaust for their own benefits....
I almost cant watch these kinds of videos anymore, its just so sad how humans kill the the thing that is life itself. Its ALL of humanity's resposibility.
MOST OF US DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN GOD DAM IT. This is not "humans," this is our ENEMY doing this to us. Wake up, stop being a self hating human and fight back!
@@luxintra5335 Maybe you don't want it to happen, but the very lifestyle and the numbers (which would not have been possible without industrialisation) of modern humans are causing this. As long as there will be demand, offer will exist (and trust me, theres a HUGE demand on any kind of resources from this planet). Stop demonising the ones who do the dirty work of the system. (i'm not saying they are good, but they just do the dirty work so we can enjoy the fruits of the modern life). If they weren't doing it you or me would probably not exist. To feed the 8 billion and increasing humans we have turned pretty much all fertile land in the world into farmland. There's basically almost no natural steppe biome left, for example. And i assure you that not only forests matter for the health of the planet, how many think. Because demand is so high and keeps increasing, we are actually doing agriculture increasingly in non-fertile soil areas, such as the amazon basin or desert areas. Fun fact if people didnt switch to cars in the 20th century, or trains in the 19th century, we would have like no forests at all by now - all cleared for pastures for the horses. This assuming our population would have reached this size, which of course wouldn't have happened without trucks who haul stuff over long distances, industrial agriculture and so on. And this shows you what is called the "progress trap", where one temporary improvement creates other problems in the future while not even solving the previous ones. The more advanced society becomes the more problems it creates. They just keep piling on top of each other, and at some point, the cards castle will go down. The higher it goes, the less likely we and other species are to survive it's fall. I do have some experience in both a rural traditional lifestyle and a modern urban one. I do not deny, like others, that modern life is easier. However easier does not necessarily mean good. All i'm gonna say is that this "good time" is not gonna last. I see people from rural, "poor" areas who wish they would have electricity and all the perks. And if they get that, they feel happy for a bit. But soon it becomes the norm, and again they wish for something else that they don't have. What their parents would see as a wonder, they now see as the norm. All humans do this. And this is why I believe happiness is a relative thing. I would dare to say that people living in more primitive settings enjoyed a much more powerful happiness emotion, when they were hungry and found food, or when they were cold and made a fire. Because nothing is better than satisfying the basic needs. Compare the feeling of drinking water when you're thristy to the feeling of buying a new smartphone. Which one is more intense and fullfiling? More primeval people did not have time to get depressed, like many of us are nowadays. And if you think there's not so many people who are depressed, you are probably wrong. There are ALOT of people who do not realise they are depressed (i was one myself). Because they found something to put their attention and effort into, and they keep going that way. But if you take that thing, their life becomes meaningless. Because the only meaning of life is to survive. Something that modern life (for now) has easily provided. It's also the fact that for the vast majority of "modern" people, they can no longer see the fruits of their own work. Autonomy is almost inexistent. Food is just something you take from the supermarket, with money that you made working something you couldn't care less about (or you lie to yourself that you care about - vast majority of people). The people who are usually most satisfied are the ones who work for their own small business, because that is much closer to autonomy than working in a big corporation. But small businesses are a dying breed. In our increasingly "progressive" and competitive world, only giants can survive. Your small scale store is gonna be put out of work by huge corporations who can provide smaller costs, due to automation, or whatever the next invention will be. Anyways, I'm gonna try to keep this short. The dystopia is already here. It has been for atleast 300 years, when some things such as the "illumination" movement made progress the #1 goal of humanity. And also big gov and bureaucracy (which are WAY older, atleast some 5000 years old). The power of humanity is too big and this will kill ourselves and other life forms. Yet the only thing that is promoted is, you guess, more power. It's not enough that we can nuke the entire planet, pollute every single river and ocean to the point its so toxic it can't sustain life, or make diseases in the lab. People are not happy that they have everything their ancestors could or couldn't have dreamed of having. They always desire more. And this is normal. But if you can't have such power, you wouldn't have such a destructive effect. I am not advising for a more primitive lifestyle that i personally enjoy. Because I know it's not something most people can think of. But they might get there anyways. And in much worse conditions than it was before "modernity". Nowadays, if the system collapses, theres very few things left in the "wilderness" that can provide for your existence. And even if they do, they will severely shorten your life (such as pollution). Unlike previous collapses such as the roman empire, this one will be much deadlier % wise. I do not have a solution, because it probably doesn't exist. However I believe the safest spot is where you can use some technology (yes, even a plow or a knife is a tech) that you can create by your own, and fully control. I do think autonomy is the closest thing to something that would balance the power of humanity. Because one individual or small group can only wield so much power that they create themselves. Nowadays (and in the past, think emperors and kings), there are people who wield tremendous power. But they haven't created by themselves that power. They use existing technology that was developed by countless other humans (or increasingly, computers) to achieve their power. This is where the problem lies, i believe. Many will say i romanticize the past. I will say that even more romanticize the future. Just look at writings and drawings from the 19th century. They believed we would be more powerful (which we did) and happier. Or are we? It certainly does not look that way for me. Who is happier? a kid who can play with sticks in his garden or a billionaire who has to take care of his business? Up to you to decide.
Those in power don't care for humanity and what people thing, no one does and we cannot find the corrupt in power no one has the strength, no one has in any country!! But a miracle or something should be done before it's too late and it is already too late
Help and press the roumanian government to save the last wildeness place in Europe for the all europeans! And for the next generations of europeans! This is a treasure of Roumania, but also, of entire Europe!
I spent some time with F.C.C rangers, and Christoph Promberger in the Fagaras Mountains. He explained what the F.C.C are doing and plan to do. He also put me in touch with Sam Sutaria at TENT in London. I spent time at Cobor Biodiversity Farm and was shown a lot of the area around there, as well as the mountains. I hope to go back next year. T.E.N.T and Fundacion Conservacion Carpathia do such amazing work.
Money and people, always destroy wildlife. Look at the UK particularly Scotland - we have no predators left and we are now down to the last remaining 50 Scottish wildcats! It's sickening.
In UK the problem are huge landowners. They are paid to keep land in "agricultural state". Heathers are burned and big population of deer eating every tree sapling is encouraged so that rich folks have their favourite sport. Keeping Scotland barren of trees is mistakenly viewed as "natural landskape" when in fact its just a green desert.
It is sad that greedy people will destroy their own life, there own children''s children life, only for there own selfish greedy ways..people like that should not be able to live for there own greedy life.. ''Yes, my name is ''Jeffrey Carpathian''. One of the very few to cherish this name in the last years from generation to generation to total destruction of our earth...I am not selfish or greedy ..Yet selfish greedy people still live and that is sad !
I am using my computer now on an Ikea wooden shelving unit that I have owned for over 30 years and refinished recently. Ikea made a mistake with the metal hinges, though - because they no longer make them and they are a special kind, irreplaceable. It is possible to make and sell long-lasting furniture, but that also means that people must be willing to pay more for it and also take care of it. I didn't take care of those metal hinges very well, so they rusted a bit. But, these shelving units cost a lot - over $2,000 thirty years ago. We need to make and enforce laws to make items sustainable. No more disposable items or items difficult to recycle or impossible to fix.
hello from canada bc vancouver island, please take a lesson from us, do NOT allow "river/creek" VALLEYS to be logged! these are the Eco-tourist destinations and the necessary protective locations for wildlife to drink and survive. The valleys are also where the trees will grow the biggest. Let them "sustainable" log and re-log certain specified hillsides, but leave the marshes, wetlands, river valleys and LAKES ALONE. NO LOGGING NEAR THESE PLEASEEE!
These trees are important. I think they should solve the destroying of the forests by giving people alternative work and control the preservation of the forests! That includes the control of businesses that operate there.
talking about changing the perception of nature nowadays in order to preserve it, they say: "particularly the younger generation" . Bro, it's the old men who own everything and want more money who don't give a crap about the environment. set up a "unique education program to quite literally take the message to" all of the greedy business owners tearing the trees down ("those that need to hear it most") (dont get me wrong, I admire the effort)
if you and I didn't work for those rich people or buy their stuff, they wouldn't be rich. We need to stop using/consuming more than we need. Eat less, use less of everything, buy quality instead of quantity, buy used items and fix them. Don't be proud of having the newest item. We are all the problem.
I agree 100%, younger generations can't do a single thing about this problem, it is important to teach them about this yes, but they have no control over old wealthy business men.
Sfintul Stefan Cel Mare (si nu doar ELsi ceilalti mosi si stramosi nu sau lasat inaintea ostirilor dracesti !dar vai ca fara razboi am cazut in zilele cele de acum !ce a cucerit strabunii nostrii cu sabia si cu singele lor noi ne am vindut prin politica !din pacate .Aveam puterea sa ne descurcam !
Greekistan barely has forests and they would desperately destroy them anyway because they want to completely enslave Aromanians/Vlachs and submit them further. Since those forests are inhabited by Aromanians but barely so. Only and only from their seething butt-hitting-to-the-ground temper, that's how. Valea Calda was something out of Chrono Trigger and it turned into a joke. Even a Neogreek from Pelopponesse with classic Neogreekoid mentality admitted to burn all the forests in Pindus to drive off all Aromanians from concealment
@@user-nf1zy6tf2o wow, you seem to have a lot of repressed anger towards the Greeks. What terrible things have they done to you to hate them so much, poor soul. PS. The Greek forests of Pindus are stunning by any measure.
@@stevelam5898 "wow you seem to have repressed anger" No I am actually in fact not angry at all (that's how little you know me). You are stupidly projecting your repressed anger to me and your Anatoloroman mental problems which is definitely obvious. Take your meds and phone your psychiatrist to double your dose. "Greeks" Nope since they actually in fact don't exist, you are literally some Greco-levantine mix or Anatoloromans with no real history, identity and genetically and racially incoherent clowns thar actually hijacked the term "Greek" 200 years ago. The term "Greek" as an ethnic indentification vanished by the historical record 1500~ or 1000 years ago and when this happens it died out. That's like saying that Iranians are Persians or Medes, they are actually not and they are just ethnically Iranians so your reasoning is inane and ridiculous. "What terrible things they have done to you" Nothing to me, personally. But still the Anatoloromans are still ethnoracially discriminate me and my people and oppress my race. They have actually in fact historically destroyed my village and inflicted post-generational trauma because because of the poorest excuses of us learning our language and academically welcoming Romanians. "to hate the so much, poor soul" What are you even sayiiing? Do you have paranoia (rhetorical question)? You don't go well in your mind truly. You are the poor soul. Not me. Mercy anymore with YOUR delusions. Aide whatever you say you are not right. Cope and seethe harder. Now s t f u u u u u your barking you submissive Anatoloroman inferior vermin and silence your insults before I knock your weak head out of your bitch shoulders. Learn your inferior place, aborted birth.
+crazy7chameleon Sami are not European indigenous people, they aren't even white. We romanians are the indigenous people in our own country and Europe. Hungarians, Serbs, Bulgarians, Finish, Tatar, Gypsies for example were not present in Europe more than 2000 years ago, they're from Asia. Take your liberalism and shove it. romaniadacia.wordpress.com/2012/08/12/dacians-barbatii-daci-ancient-people/
That's one of the oddest comments I've ever heard...Nature is being attacked by humans, but it is always capable of thriving..It has known how to survive for billions of years & just needs to be left alone.
the way of LAWS (what protected areas are) is never the solution... as u don t get a good society by LAWS.. u get e good society by teaching what s right and wrong.. by LIVE it the right way because of UNDERSTANDING... teach your kids WHY it s important to take care of nature.. WHY it s important to be nice and respectfull to eachother and the world itself.. THEN things will change.. if u wanna give that to government (that doesn t know anything about respect and the difference between RIGHT and LEGAL) we r doomed..
Bosna i Hercegovina is smaller country than city Paris, but Bosnia has more drinking water than half the world and forest land occupy about 53% of the territory of BiH that means that Bosnia has more forrest than USA, China, Germany, UK, France, Italy and many big countries. In Europe only in Bosnia you can find a subtropical dry forests.
This video states that the Carpathian forest today are 0.5% of what was the size of forests in all of Europe 1000 years ago. If these mountains, 190,000 km2, are 50% forested, Europe's forests must have been 19,000,000 km2. But all of Europe is only 10,180,000 km2. The only way to make the claims of this video work is to assume that today's Carpathian mountains are only 20% forested in order to come up with Europe 1000 years ago being 75% forested. I don't know what to believe.
Completely untrue, we literally hold protests against it every week and we got huge results in the last few years. Most of our mountains are national parks now and also protected under the EU law… the forest are also controlled fro illegal wood choppers by drones.
@@pyramusk3264 I’m 100% right, we have 2/3 of bears and 2/3 of virgin forests in Europe… our forests are unesco heritage sites… the Danube delta is the most biodiverse region in Europe and 3rd in the world… Transylvania has 40% of Europe’s flora ( flowers, trees and plants ) species alone and they’re found in very large amount not scarcely like in Western Europe. Beside the over 10.000 bears we have also 2/5 of Europe’s wolf population( the biggest population in Europe ) the biggest of Europe’s lynx population, beside that we also have wild European Bisons and we are the only country alongside Poland to have bisons in wilderness, we are the only country in Europe with wild horses still roaming in the wild! Tell me a country that comes even close to that in Europe… there is none.
@Obergruppenstuppentruppensturmfuhrer SuperStuka Gesta Hungarorum your own people write that when they arrived in Panonia they encountered the "blachi and slavs", Blachi is Vlach=Rumani=Romanians. It seems you are just full of shit and come with debunked theory of Robert Röslers who was hired by the Austrian Empire to invent some theory of why romanians have no rights over Transilvania in the context of 1859 events, Robert Rösler's theory presents zero archeological or historic arguments, next time come with something better bro, thank you come again!
Ukraine existed for thousands of years before Russia. Ukraine was called Scythia in ancient times. Ukraine was called Rus when Russia was known as Muskovy. I wonder where Russia got their name?
Scythians are Iranics. They're not Slavics. There is some blood connection of Iranics and Slavics, but it's pretty moot since it's obvious since they're both Indo-European ethnicities.
Rome fight in this muountains in Sarmizegetusa Regia with the daco-gets tribe, ancestors of romanian. After the war the romanian people is born in 106. You , the maghiar tribe, came into romanian land in 900. Who stolen who? The romanian recovery his land in 1918 - when they are the majority of population and togheter with the germans , jews and ucrainians decide free to reunited with the Kingdom of Romania. Punctum. Respect the history truth, don't manipulate the people.
i don't give a flying fuck about your structures . and if you want a glimpse of what ,and how hungary came to europe just look at israel today , its the same procedure , steal kill and colonise this is your history , then play as a victim
@@mactek6033 incorrect. You cannot simply replace ancient woodland with newly replanted ones. Old growth forests that have been continuously wooded for thousands of years have developed unique ecosystems. Once these are gone they cannot be replace. During a climate and biodiversity crisis it is completely unacceptable to fell ancient woodland.
