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The Censorship Is Just Beginning | Konstantin Kisin 

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Konstantin Kisin, co-host of Triggernometry, joins us for an insightful conversation about the rising threat of censorship in England and shares his perspective on the future of America.
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@triggerpod
@triggerpod 19 часов назад
Thank you for having me on the show!
@charliecrowley1070
@charliecrowley1070 19 часов назад
Always enjoy these conversations! If I was in the UK i'd probable have charges!
@bobhope5114
@bobhope5114 15 часов назад
Keep up the great work!
@sueyourself5413
@sueyourself5413 2 часа назад
You're not very consistant. You seem to like censorship. Any criticism of Israel is a nono. Any criticism of our actions towards Russia, is also not allowed.
@deepblack2193
@deepblack2193 Час назад
Never mentioned the HR6090 antisemitism awareness act can’t criticise Isreal or you’re labelled a you know what this speech legislation is not problem to you ofc
@deavman
@deavman 49 минут назад
@@sueyourself5413 Not true. It is that most of the "criticism" is made up and peddled by the jew-haters in vogue.
@manarycorte5743
@manarycorte5743 22 часа назад
Don’t forget that what’s happening in Brazil can happen in the US as well.
@youtubemom497
@youtubemom497 21 час назад
* has already begun to happen 🫤
@aranisles8292
@aranisles8292 21 час назад
Do you think one president in cahoots with one judge can shut down X in the US? Because that's how easy it was in Brazil. Here, the checks and balances are much stronger. It'll take a lot more to make it happen. Besides, the tyrants here know this, and that's why they do it more indirectly or through secret means.
@janaiello722
@janaiello722 20 часов назад
Then don’t vote for Harris. She is a Marxist.
@offshoretomorrow3346
@offshoretomorrow3346 14 часов назад
My imagination, or was censorship barely mentioned - despite the title?? (I am relentlessly cen sored here, btw)
@deepblack2193
@deepblack2193 Час назад
Never mentioned the HR6090 antisemitism awareness act can’t criticise Isreal or you’re labelled a you know what this speech legislation is not problem to you ofc
@lisaintheuk3347
@lisaintheuk3347 16 часов назад
My husband is an example of what Konstantin is saying, he no longer watches mainstream television, because there is no comedy for our generation, so he watches re runs of old programs and they make him laugh, which makes me happy. 😃
@carolmcln5028
@carolmcln5028 6 часов назад
I know many ppl like that!
@fanfeck2844
@fanfeck2844 2 часа назад
You can’t have comedy without offending someone. Some people can’t handle being offended, and that’s nothing new, but we used to just ignore them, unlike now.
@user-he1kk4vv7z
@user-he1kk4vv7z 2 часа назад
I too watch old films , i bit tired but not so much propoganda ,lecturing ,hectoring ànd and every third person is eith gay les or in a mixe marraige where the man is a complete dickhead
@Al-Pacca
@Al-Pacca 21 час назад
Sensitivity training is the first step toward censorship.
@physiocrat7143
@physiocrat7143 6 часов назад
Ends in millions behind barbed wire
@gwenboland7678
@gwenboland7678 20 часов назад
I love Konstantin and Francis. Triggernometry is well worth the time.
@Louis.R
@Louis.R 7 часов назад
"...and Francis". Politeness is not dead!
@banid8699
@banid8699 18 часов назад
I grew up in a communist country too and my parents did exactly the same thing. They advised us kids to never repeat what was being said in our home including at school because the children of party members would likely inform their parents of any talk happening at school that would be perceived as counterrevolutionary.
@ianxyoutube
@ianxyoutube 19 минут назад
Now it is becoming the same here. If kids have patriotic rightwing parents, they are advised to keep quiet about these views in public. And schools here do ostracise rightists. One young UKIP supporter was referred to the police a few years back. I too spent time under communism and it has been a tremendous shock to find myself hating and fearing my own elected government now nearly as much as Czechs hated and feared the Husak government, for similar reasons.
@LonelyRanger902
@LonelyRanger902 18 часов назад
Almost 4000 people have been arrested this year in England for illegal posts on the Internet. If you’re going to be interviewed about a topic, then you should have the figures and statistics. The British people are unable to revolt, because they don’t have firearms. That is the founding fathers exact point about the second amendment.
@AAWT
@AAWT 14 часов назад
Konstantin made lots of people aware of these figures/statistics in previous interviews. It was at 3000 under the "Conservative" government as he mentioned in his interview with John Anderson (the fmr. Australian deputy PM), and I'm sure he will point out the rise when we have the first year of Labour government in numbers. The new government only took power a couple of weeks ago, so if he pointed to specific numbers, people would accuse him of blaming the previous' governments actions on the current one.
@elizaj4431
@elizaj4431 2 часа назад
And if they use firearms what then? Will they not just wind up dead or in prison? I agree people need to fight back but by undermining their institutional power and gaining more ourselves and through decentralization and finding other channels to communicate, trade, educate and work outside the regimes as much as possible. Guerrilla tactics.
@honeywhite1
@honeywhite1 17 часов назад
Oh my goodness, this is exactly what I say to my child who goes to the local comp: don't repeat these conversations at school, & don't believe all that your teachers tell you. Absolutely grim 😢
@marianemashkalo4182
@marianemashkalo4182 Час назад
Oh wow. I am in Ukraine, recognise it from Soviet past... Also 'don't stand out' is what used to be said to kids as self protection. Have you become communists?(((
@honeywhite1
@honeywhite1 21 минуту назад
It feels like it 🇬🇧😢
@janaiello722
@janaiello722 20 часов назад
I’d be in prison for life if I was over there.
@George-vf7ss
@George-vf7ss 20 часов назад
Ditto. I would go from immigration to an orange jumpsuit quickly.
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 19 часов назад
Same.
@gissellest333
@gissellest333 19 часов назад
Same, I'm one Huge TERF. lol
@AAWT
@AAWT 15 часов назад
@@George-vf7ss British tourism board here. Please consider visiting - instead of free speech, not only will you get 3 free meals a day, but you can even choose whether you want to go to a male or female prison ;) You also get to be enriched by our Islamist prison gangs, who run the prisons and can get you privileges if you convert to Islam. Doesn't that sound wonderful?
@fanfeck2844
@fanfeck2844 2 часа назад
@@George-vf7ssif you’re an immigrant you won’t be jailed. You’ve got the card
@JayBoy-b3v
@JayBoy-b3v 19 часов назад
The best type of diversity is the diversity of opinion. We have two ears. One is on the left and the other is on the right. There is no point in surrounding yourself with every gender, sexual orientation and race under the sun if everyone has the same political affiliations or allegiances. At what stage does a progressive finally draw a line in the sand and start conserving? Where are the boundaries for a progressive? Are there any limits or taboos?
@nnotny
@nnotny 18 часов назад
There are no boundaries and there is no arriving because the whole point is continual revolution. If your goal is utopia you never get there.
@tammys8711
@tammys8711 17 часов назад
Sounds like Jordan’s “when does the Left go too far?”
@AAWT
@AAWT 15 часов назад
Yes, there are taboos and limits to progressives - if you disagree with them or dare to ask questions that make them have to coherently defend their absurdly contradictory ideology, that is taboo and crossing the limit. Apart from that, the more radical the merrier - insanity by their logic is just taking progress further.
@martynscott1227
@martynscott1227 17 часов назад
Comedy in UK was the only thing that kept the British sain! In 2020’s there’s no such thing as comedy here 😡😡
@emultra759
@emultra759 5 часов назад
The country of Monty Python, Mr. Bean, Keeping Up Appearances, Red Dwarf etc. is no longer a place of laughter.
@jamesatkinson7691
@jamesatkinson7691 4 часа назад
Oh come on now there's plenty of "comedy". It's just not remotely funny.
@ferb1131
@ferb1131 Час назад
@@emultra759 The director of the BBC admitted a few years ago that Monty Python would not get hired by the BBC today because they're not diverse enough.
@charliecrowley1070
@charliecrowley1070 19 часов назад
The public tells you what they want, then the public starts screaming at you what they want, and then you know what comes next!
@physiocrat7143
@physiocrat7143 6 часов назад
It starts with censorship and ends up with giant prison camps.
@sirreptitious6645
@sirreptitious6645 14 часов назад
Rather than enacting laws against any speech that might offend someone, maybe we should teach people to not be offended. Words hurt because we allow them to offend us.
@IMDunn-oy9cd
@IMDunn-oy9cd 20 часов назад
Always a good discussion between these two.
@williamfox1146
@williamfox1146 21 час назад
Excellent.
@seandelap8587
@seandelap8587 14 часов назад
No one has ever censored anything for your own good only their own
@Newsopathy-gf2ug
@Newsopathy-gf2ug 12 часов назад
I hate to say for once Konstantin that you are completely wrong on a fact but I and all the retired age adults in UK that I know haven't just switched to You Tube, etc, they've actually dispensed with having a TV licence. Older know much better than younger people what's gone wrong with the BBC - they HATE the BBC for what they've done, and are quite happy to do away with live terrestrial TV. All the terrestrials have gone woke and Starmer is now demonstrating that he hates pensioners almost as much as he hates the working classes. But you are right about the attempted 'Sovietisation' of our children. People love your life story. It's so interesting to hear a fresh perspective of what Britain's like from people who have come into our country. I had cancer and the NHS treatment I received was top class.
@johnbrown4568
@johnbrown4568 20 часов назад
Vote Trump
@Snakebloke
@Snakebloke 21 час назад
The NHS is reactive; not proactive.
@fritzidler9871
@fritzidler9871 21 час назад
Governor Newsom just outlawed memes in california.
@George-vf7ss
@George-vf7ss 20 часов назад
He might want to look at the court case, Jerry Fallwel vs. Hustler. (Larry Flint)
@bobhope5114
@bobhope5114 15 часов назад
It's time to outlaw Gavin Newsom and his ilk.
@carolmcln5028
@carolmcln5028 6 часов назад
@@George-vf7ssOh no doubt when he’s sued over it (well, the state) it’ll be shot down.
@tiffanyweisse6544
@tiffanyweisse6544 7 часов назад
Triggernonetry rocks! Thanks guys.
@jackrandall20
@jackrandall20 6 часов назад
It would be nice to think that the BBC might watch this and understand. But I doubt it.
@chrismcdonald7086
@chrismcdonald7086 13 часов назад
If you grew up a decent Baptist kid in the 70’s you got the same chat that Russian parents gave their kids. It’s really important that all parents teach their children not to believe what they hear at school.
@chrismcdonald7086
@chrismcdonald7086 13 часов назад
Of course, we were free to talk about what we learned at home. Encouraged, though we knew it would upset our teachers.
@will-lg9ze
@will-lg9ze Час назад
I had to give my kid the same lecture when she went to school and that's England 2024 ffs
@oufukubinta
@oufukubinta 6 часов назад
This is at the same time as Australia is doing something similar
@carolmcln5028
@carolmcln5028 6 часов назад
ALL countries of the world are going this way.
@emultra759
@emultra759 5 часов назад
The biggest problem with the first amendment is that it should have been the second, and the second the first. That which one can defend is what one can keep.
@Davidsample7761
@Davidsample7761 4 часа назад
Andrew. All English are fair. English is an ethnic identity. British can be of different skin tones. Saying white English is unnecessary
@aindriubradleymarshall6226
@aindriubradleymarshall6226 Час назад
Humour, mocking satire and ridicule need to go in overdrive.......
@rachelbuzaglo904
@rachelbuzaglo904 13 часов назад
Konstantin is one of the most honest and intelligent man’s in our society.
@jamesboydriver
@jamesboydriver Час назад
Man, Klavan's take on the NHS was ignorant af. The NHS is the ability for every citizen to have access to free health care and not be bankrupted by it like has been the case for many US citizens. The issue with the NHS isn't the NHS, nor the people who work it, it's the outrageous immigration that the governments have let overrun not just the NHS, but other tax funded services that many lifelong Brits had paid into and have depended on. First time tuning into your show (watching because I'm a Konstantin fan) and that really hit a nerve with me
@deeannakim9306
@deeannakim9306 12 часов назад
Absolutely enjoyed watching this episode with my two favorite people ❤
@claudiavonayres9186
@claudiavonayres9186 16 часов назад
Kk never change who you are and what you believe, just grow and be more of what you are. Effing excellent interview between two top men. Thank you and love you both❤
@GuitarDaddio
@GuitarDaddio 21 час назад
Diversity is a strength for a corporation, but it is toxic for a nation. Both corporations and nation can be good, and both diversity being good and bad can be true.
@hooligan9794
@hooligan9794 20 часов назад
Diversity of thought is good for a corporation. All other diversity is irrelevant.
@tonyc223
@tonyc223 19 часов назад
@@hooligan9794 Yes.
@GuitarDaddio
@GuitarDaddio 19 часов назад
@@hooligan9794 that is not true for large corporations who want to do business all over the world. It is good for corporations to be agnostic about religion, borders, language, race, language, religion to varying degrees, but those same attributes that foster business erode the cohesiveness of a nation if unbridled.
@halley4032
@halley4032 2 часа назад
Depends how one defines Diversity. Diversity of thought and ideas etc is generally a positive everywhere
@natmanprime4295
@natmanprime4295 17 часов назад
regarding andrews point at 19:00 , invasion is technically what immigration becomes when segregation is outlawed. therefore, there has been no immigration since civil rights in the 1960s
@loopielou4426
@loopielou4426 4 часа назад
America - the least racist country. Almost everyone is in immigrant so in the uk it is very different when it comes to early acceptance of such vast change. not racism, more being uncomfortable about vast change.
@highschoolhockeyminnesota
@highschoolhockeyminnesota 12 часов назад
Like the censorship of Candace Owens' Christ is King declaration?
@stockinettestitch
@stockinettestitch 3 часа назад
Oh knock it off. That was so obnoxious of her. No one censored her either.
@rogbard
@rogbard 54 минуты назад
Regarding the anecdote about Robin Williams on German TV, I have never seen receipts for that one. When Ed O´Neill tells this, he adds that the flustered Germans immediately cut to commercials. Which is impossible ofc, because German programs at the time weren´t interrupted by commercials. I wonder where it comes from.
@roberthowe718
@roberthowe718 11 часов назад
Death of comedy!!!! Sad
@mr2981
@mr2981 12 часов назад
Thank God there is still some land that hasn't been built on...
@friendlyfire7861
@friendlyfire7861 2 часа назад
The moment Klavan talks about his gay son is the moment I shut off. It's all he talks about. Broken record. Let's see. --Wow, he made it 👍
@PWMoze
@PWMoze Час назад
As usual KK is one of the most sensible, measured and coherent thinkers in this whole culture war thing. If only voices like his were valued and part of the political elite in the UK. However, unfortunately, instead we have a radically liberal, globalist, metropolitan elite in charge of our national institutions, the civil service, universities, our national broadcasting corporation, the mainstream media and most local governments. These people have a very narrow perspective, they live in metropolitan, politically progressive bubblles and gain virtue from their own luxury beliefs. Because of this they flatly refuse to lsten to, or platform, people like KK who don't share their ideological position or dogmatic persepctive, people who speak as they find and simply talks sense. Instead, we have a nation mostly captured by the woke mind virus and the post modern, neo-Marxist, lunatic fringe. Let's hope KK doesn't decide to chuck it all in and move to the US, we would be poorer without him.
@Marek-o3u
@Marek-o3u 3 часа назад
It's not knowing which post will get you arrested is the big problem. Its arbitrary and it has a full on chilling effect. Which is the intention. Not just Starmer, the previous party set up the legislation. Just as free speech advocates warned it could be misused.
@jromeo6748
@jromeo6748 10 часов назад
To be an Everyman.
@pbj1984
@pbj1984 9 часов назад
Great conversation, thoughtful considered opinions, thank you for this
@matthiaskroll7740
@matthiaskroll7740 17 часов назад
Like this classik 70s Intro
@digitalnomad9985
@digitalnomad9985 9 часов назад
"People in the UK think more about people at the bottom of the ladder" People in the US voluntarily give more and volunteer more to help people at the bottom of the ladder. The UK gives .84% of it's gdp in private charitable giving, ranking seventh in the table coming in at just under half the US figure. Given the hundreds of countries counted, that is impressive. US tops this figure at 1.85%, with Israel a close second at 1.35%. In the US it is overwhelmingly the conservatives who give, as is documented in "Who Really Cares?". Apparently the notion that government should have or does have the primary responsibility for a "charitable" response to poverty inversely correlates to charitable giving.
@carolmcln5028
@carolmcln5028 6 часов назад
Exactly. The ppl of the UK might see it as the government’s job to look after the little guy, if I’m not mistaken, in the US, the majority of our budget goes to entitlements. However, I do hear that the majority of her budget goes to the military, and I don’t know who is correct. At any our entitlement proportion is high.
@jamesatkinson7691
@jamesatkinson7691 4 часа назад
The U.K. gives a lot in overseas aid. The U.S. sits at the top of the tree, in this respect, and Germany marginally higher, but the U.K. often looks abroad to recognise those at the "bottom of the ladder" who they ( the Establishment ) feel actually deserve the resources. It's a smug, elitist, attitude, fostered by people who've enjoyed an Oxbridge education and basically refuse to see blue-collar, British people, as deserving of assistance.
@halley4032
@halley4032 2 часа назад
@@jamesatkinson7691 Agreed. There appears to be something endemic with the British Elites' attitude to the working/lower classes - or who they regard as the lower classes. In recent decades, the working class/lower classes have been particularly 'despised' by both Govts. As a consequence, these classes realise that they no longer have a voice, as they once did with Labour (Left). Labour are now 'just' Left of Centre, with some bizarre Champagne Socialist ideas thrown in for good measure. Essentially a middle class suburban party, that also favours all minority groups except the indigenous working classes. In many respects nothing has changed since the height of the British Empire, from the mid/late 1800s etc, regarding attitudes to lower classes, whereby the levels of poverty in Britain at this height were staggering.
@pringlel
@pringlel 14 часов назад
Everyone you know has private health insurance? really? I don't know anyone who has private health insurance. (Other than through an employer.) I've no doubt that Konstantin intends to see out his days in the USA.
@KGS922
@KGS922 6 часов назад
Oh dear
@Traderbear
@Traderbear 16 часов назад
Thank you for pronouncing his name correctly 😊
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 14 часов назад
In fact, no. Klavan mispronounces Konstantin's surname as "Kizn" (listen for yourself). It is correctly pronounced the way it is spelled in the Roman alphabet (i.e. Kiss-in). The original Russian spelling of his name is Константин Кисин, and if you can't read Cyrillic just copy and paste it into Google Translate. The final consonant is an "s," not a "z".
@walt42
@walt42 4 часа назад
did you mean the tories were in from 2010 to 2024 not till 2014; 14 years in? just askin'
@halley4032
@halley4032 2 часа назад
Labour held Govt from 1997-2010. We then had a Conservative led Cons-Liberal Democrat coalition for 5 years, Conservatives regained full control from the 2015 General Election and stayed in power until this year.
@ruthha7047
@ruthha7047 16 часов назад
You forgot Jimmy Dore who has 1.4 million subscribers and still does stand up.
@jonah9861
@jonah9861 15 часов назад
Atheism reinforced liberalism and took out the defences against totalitarianism.
@greatscott369
@greatscott369 7 часов назад
I don't care what anyone says. I have freedom of speech. Always have and always will. It's not given to me by any person or organisation or government and therefore cannot ever be taken away by any government. It is a god given right. So 🖕 and like it because that's what you're getting from me, understood?
@physiocrat7143
@physiocrat7143 6 часов назад
You might end up in a prison camp
@johanponken
@johanponken 15 часов назад
Klavan is the one at DW with the broader world-view, here Europe, even if he's here keeping to their 'hangar ship' of Britain. (Though admittedly here, by the grace of KK's heritage, all the way to the Ural.)
@to-er8om
@to-er8om 4 часа назад
Walter...
@Sean-p3o
@Sean-p3o 8 часов назад
Ironically KK has just done a monologue about the so called woke right
@peznino1
@peznino1 Час назад
Two failed comedians much like Joe Rogan and Dave Rubin
@SFRZRD
@SFRZRD 7 часов назад
Love this collab
@georgieporgie9872
@georgieporgie9872 20 часов назад
As someone from the UK, while I totally respect your opinion and some aspects are absolutely true, the bulk of this is waffle. I would consider myself a conservative voter, however, calling Kier Starmer's centrist Labour Party 'Far-Left' is just laughable
@Skitdora2010
@Skitdora2010 19 часов назад
It takes experience and wisdom to read and judge actions before pretty words.
@nevbarnes1034
@nevbarnes1034 18 часов назад
Not as laughable as thinking the entire white, working class are "far right".
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 15 часов назад
"the bulk of this is waffle" and then you go on to cite ONE single example, which is also arguable (just because a government that has only just come into power hasn't enacted much far-left legislation YET does not mean they they are not "far-left" in their intentions). Logical thought is not your strong suit, it would seem.
@georgieporgie9872
@georgieporgie9872 14 часов назад
@@DieFlabbergast First of all, just because we have disagreements doesn’t mean we have to be uncivil. Second of all, are you suggesting i go and cite all flaws throughout the video in a youtube comment section? Finally, with all due respect, i don’t need a yank to tell me how our British politics work and what the current state of affairs are alike.
@NR-rv8rz
@NR-rv8rz 17 часов назад
lol this is hilarious from two hypocrites who refuse to talk to Nick Fuentes and who demand that other's de platform him. You guys only role play at free speech advocacy.
@sanniepstein4835
@sanniepstein4835 10 часов назад
A private entity, with no jails or power to seize property, choosing who they talk to, fund, publicize, or hire: that is censorship? You've made the term meaningless.
@carolmcln5028
@carolmcln5028 6 часов назад
They are not advocating for the government to shut him up. That’s the difference.
@NR-rv8rz
@NR-rv8rz Час назад
@@sanniepstein4835 You didn't read my post. I said Konstantin excoriated pearl for ten minutes demanding that 'she' not platform Nick.
@NR-rv8rz
@NR-rv8rz Час назад
@@carolmcln5028 Neither do most lefties. They just lobby for big companies to deplatform people. Konstantin excoriated pearl for ten minutes demanding that 'she' not platform Nick.
@jemalabdunasir1660
@jemalabdunasir1660 18 часов назад
There is something jewish about this video
@andrealeetobias3474
@andrealeetobias3474 18 часов назад
There is something Jew hating about you
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 15 часов назад
Yes, that's why it is so good.
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