While you're argument about structural Integrity is sound it's completely undermined by the fact that arthropods can in fact get quite big it's oxygen that limits them before structural integrity. For example if you just took the time to Google you would know that back in Earth history when the oxygen was high enough you had centipedes that were like the size of cars in length
A kaiju spent most of their time traveling underwater and surfacing to make landfall at edge of it'starget city. Airborne weapons will have a small window before a kaiju begin trashing the city, it's primary objective. A giant robot that can stop a kaiju before it reaches the city sounds a better option. And it's cooler to watch.
Actually, if I remember correctly the lore did address some of these issues. The neural link control enables the pilot to control the machine as if it was his/her own body, but because it was all but wired to the pilot's system, this caused the human brain to run two bodies: the pilot's and the Jaeger. There may have also been some issue with all of the tactical data coming in at once as well. As far as conventional military forces, they were mentioned as having been tried, but ultimately failing. The first few Kaiju were taken down by tanks and bombs, but due to their size the battles were lengthy, lasting days of continuous attacks. As time went on, the Kaiju became bigger and bigger requiring more ammunition. Some military forces were so overwhelmed that governments were forced to use a nuclear option just to prevent a Kaiju from wrecking more of the country. Then there was the Kaiju blood. Dubbed Kaiju Blue, the blood of the Kaiju was toxic to the environment. Each battle that left a Kaiju bleeding from a thousand wounds was as bad if not worse than the Valdez. The Jaegers were to stop the Kaiju by causing massive internal injuries from combat or using weapons that cauterized wounds to contain the blood, thus protecting the biosphere. Please let me know what you think, would love to hear your thoughts.
The "Pure Iron" thing bothered me as well. It sounds like they intentionally made it heavier and weaker, AND it will quickly corrode in salt water, which is its most common environment.
they got more then confused he said that the most powerful engine in the world couldn't move it. of course it couldn't that why gipsy is nuclear powered. steam and electic motors give off alot more toque then a engine. its seems like he didn't even see the movie
@@georgethompson1460 yet in the movie they made it a point, on more then one occasion to say that gypsie danger has no alloys. Also apparently does not contain any computer chips or electronics as its "analog" and therefore wouldn't be susceptible to EMP.
Bruce Wayne we are running out of resources on this planet so yeah, mine asteroids, go to other planet’s, find new and stronger material. You are definitely correct friend
Well, in Japan, they've already built a Gundam. So, yes, I'm sure with the right resource connections, their construction could be an absolute reality.
Not to mention the Kaiju adapt. As in the one with the EMP weapon (there goes your remote connection). Add aircraft to fight them and soon enough the Kaiju would be either flying for have some sort of anti air defense and\or offense.
Why not adopt the same strategy that works so well for bees, wasps and hornets. I rather face off against one 150lb black bear that’s determined to kill me than 150 one oz. Murder Hornets with the same intent. Statistics agree with me; more humans are killed every year by bees than by bears.
When gipsy danger was gonna hammer knife head with its fist on the head, the camera zoomed on the arms moving Details like this makes me want to rewatch the whole movie again... for the 26th-ish times
If i remember correctly, one of the characters said one of the Yeagers has 50 diesel engines per muscle strand. Plus, it is said Gypsy Danger had an "analogue" nuclear reactor. Meaning we developed something better than a nuclear reactor power source to run Yeagers of Mark 4 onwards. In turn, I'd imagine that more powerful engines and their related technology could lessen the burden of certain parts. There are joints on rocket launch platforms that could take the weight of a Yeager. I'm rambling now, and this'll be buried. But, hi Gen Films. Keep up the amazing vids. From Australia
one problem is the ground presure. even if it would have been posible to build them. can the ground take the presure form it with out them sinking in to it.
What they were saying in that line was that Gipsy (yes it is spelled with an 'i', and no that makes no sense) had analog computer parts _and_ a nuclear reactor, as opposed to the other Jaegers which all used digital electronics and...some other unspecified power source (so why the nuclear reactor was even relevant to that situation, I don't know), and were therefore rendered useless by the kaiju's electromagnetic pulse attack (which would either also happen to an analog system, or only disable them both temporarily if at all). Don't get me wrong, I liked the movie, but its attempts at sounding sciencey were a total mess.
loved the movie, hated the technojargon, 50 diesel motors, ok are we talking a hyundai car or a hyundai container ship. He mentioned the lack of alloys. And the digital/analog thing, it could have been they just had heavy shielding because it had an old style reactor. The russian mech was already destroyed by the time it was relevant.
@@d.b.4671 On the contrary, it does actually make sense why Gipsy's name has an 'i'. Her name came from a British pre-WWII aircraft engine called "de Havilland Gipsy". Plus if they did the other way, with a 'y', people would be bitching over Gipsy's name having a slur.
@@lancepharker maybe they mentioned the number of engines because of other reasons than power. Smaller engines can generally rev up quicker, meaning more agility. Also in case of damage you dont lose the whole muscle
I loved how unique the Jaegers were. Gypsy Danger felt like something an American would try to build after getting into Gundam. Striker Eureka felt like an attempt to improve on Gypsy Danger. Crimson Typhoon took an interesting approach with its pilot setup and seemingly took a more utilitarian and streamlined approach for the vital components (its head was the most simplistic-looking of them all). Cherno Alpha just oozed Russian in all aspects: size, weight, age, fighting style, movement, even its designation ("T-90," sounds like a Russian tank); man, of all the Jaegers, I wanted Cherno Alpha to keep going. Yeah, the Jaegers are highly impractical, but that's the advantage kaiju movies are supposed to have: the spectacle is meant to overwhelm whatever logic (or more accurately, LACK of logic) the movie has. That's what Del Toro masterfully achieved, and I will keep watching Pacific Rim for that spectacle.
Well, the reason they made the the pilot feel what the jaegar is feeling is because , if you look at the first jaegar scene when they are fighting knife-head, they pick up a boat, they have to feel what the jeagar is feeling as they pick the boat up or they would grab it to hard and crush it , or they grab it and it slips out of their hands because they werent holding onto it stronger, they need thsese feelings to be able to operate, its just my take on it though
Yeah but haptic feedback and pain sensation are totally different. When you play xbox your controller lets you "feel" getting hit or going over a rough road. But you don't feel pain from the controller (if you do microsoft would probably replace the controller under warranty?)
henryhbk but you aren’t hooked up to the controller on a neural link. Take VR for example, by strapping a screen close enough to your eyes you can trick your mind into feeling like your possibly falling giving you that stomach feeling. Now connect a jaeger to your body’s electrical signals, is it not possible that when you get hit that the brain falsely sends signals to pain receptors?
@@lizzo001 That is possible of course. I've only ever used a regular occulus go VR rig and that mostly just induced nausea and frustration. But when I crashed into something in VR I didn't feel it (nobody would sword fight in VR games if it actually hurt!), and force feedback and haptics are of course useful but there is no reason to produce pain. I don't need to feel the pain of my tires when I am driving over rocks to know they are hitting rocks. Just the damped transmission of the impact into the car is sufficient.
henryhbk with neural link you are using the electric signals from your brain that would usually move your body communicate with a machine. The machines feedback would also be electrical so you know what’s happening with the jaeger by the input on your body. There’s a few fight scenes that show the operators are not freely moving around the cockpit, as the jaeger is restricted so are the operators. If an arm is pinned up so are the operators. Mind, body and machine all in sync. And no, you won’t feel a crash in VR from visual input only. Want to make VR racing more exciting though, hop on a motion platform simulator with a VR headset.
@@lizzo001 I get that, but as a doctor the fibers that transmit proprioception (force/location) are different than pain. Pain in't a helpful sensation and in fact as demonstrated just creates mental load. Sure if you want your arm to feel pinned when the jaeger's arm is pinned that's all good and in a full motion flight simulator (my son is a pilot) I've certainly felt all the motion but not pain (sure if the motion is severe enough your head might whack into the cabin wall, but that's not useful since you already knew you were whipping around). There really isn't a compelling reason to use the direct neural interface to solve this problem. I mean you and I drive our cars without a neural interface and some extraordinary humans become f1 drivers and can do that at 10x the speed we can. Now sending signals to control stuff is a different problem compared to receiving signals. But again C5A galaxy pilots manage to land a million pound aircraft moving at several hundred feet per second just using their clumsy old hands, eustachian tubes for attitude and eyes for sensors. The speed argument is kind of silly since given the size of those things they rate of changes of position aren't even in the ballpark of a F1 car or fighter jet. A F1 driver goes about 1/3 of a football field in the time it takes to blink an eye, but somehow we crude humans manage. To the pilot of the jaeger they are generally moving at a sedate walking pace and the fights are happening at slow-mo speed.
I was under the impression from the opening narrative in the movie that the reason the Jaegers came into existence was because "by the time tanks, jets and missiles took it down (first kaiju), six days and 35 miles later, three cities were destroyed. Tens of thousands of lives were lost...(2nd/3rd/4th attack)... This was just the beginning. We needed a new weapon." I understood this to mean that mass numbers of smaller craft proved outside the realm of a realistic defense. I also took the leap of faith and assumed that when "The world came together, pooling its resources and throwing aside old rivalries for the sake of the greater good" that technologies indeed advanced to allow appropriate power and material strength. In regards to the terminology used to describe what the Jaegers are made out of or how heavy they are I agreed it's not realistic. However, it is much easier to say "it's made out of solid iron" and more people understand that sounds like something strong rather than saying they are made out of "hyper light weight nano carbon metallic ceramic plasteel super composite" (pushes glasses back onto nose) which would just take people right out of the story.
That is not really a good argument. US has over 2000 combat aircraft. They could deliver enough ordinance to vaporize cities, even without going nuclear. And speaking of nuclear, neutron bombs would cook those monsters easily, without any infrastructure damage.
@@miguellopes6669 My argument was really good. I was clear, concise and correct. I choose to simplify it for ease of RU-vid viewers. Super long comments don't usually get read. This will be a significantly longer comment. TL;DR version of this comment: Miguel gets dunked on, posterized and 1 million copies are made that sell out immediately. Just so we get it out of the way. I am a Pilot in the United States Air Force. We don't just have over 2000 combat aircraft. We have over 2000 combat aircraft in the Air Force alone. We have over 2000 combat aircraft in the Navy/Marines. Between the Army and the Marines there are well over 2000 combat helicopters. There are over 2000 aircraft mothballed in the desert and that group represents the 4th largest air force in the world. All of our larger cargo planes can drop MOAB type weapons too so lets through them in as well. All that said the opening scene makes it painfully clear that conventional weapons as we know them are almost entirely ineffective against a kaiju. This is there part where the writers are setting expectations and explaining why some things are the way they are. On a real world "learn from history" note. Saying that conventional weapons could def get the job done against dimensional hoping super monsters because "big explosions" is about as naive a statement as the military planners who though Pearl Harbor was too shallow for a torpedo attack or that fighter aircraft wouldn't need guns anymore. Those decisions both went over well (That was a sarcastic comment... in case you missed it). To the real world. Having employed everything from Hellfire missiles to 500 lb. to 2000 lb. bombs in training, testing and combat I can assure you that no number of conventional weapons can "vaporize" a city. Now they certainly can devastate an area and create one hell of a firestorm (If anyone is still alive that lived through the bombing of Dresden, Hamburg or Tokyo, among other places, they could attest to that) but that is several magnitudes of power less than that of a nuclear weapon. It should also be explained that those 8k+ combat aircraft mentioned above aren't just sitting around fully armed ready to rock and roll at a given moment. Even in the post 9/11 world there are only a handful of fully armed fighters ready to scramble at any one time in the continental US. These fighters are primarily there to engage air to air threats and the missiles they carry have ~20-50 lbs of explosive fill (depends on variant) with no armor penetrating capability. To a kaiju this would be the equivalent of an adult human putting a single Black Cat firecracker on their arm or back and setting it off. It might sting and draw a small amount of blood but all it's really going to do is induce an adrenaline rush and piss you off. Please don't actually do this. A kaiju is a killing machine designed to take over the world or fight until it dies. You are not a kaiju. It will probably still really hurt and there is always a chance fate will roll 3x20s (DnD players will get the reference) and the lit firecracker will roll off your back and get trapped between the ground and your jugular exploding your neck and causing you to bleed out if you don't get immediate medical attention. It would take at least 24 hours to scramble an appropriate strike force against a surprise threat like this and the movie makes it very clear that over 3 days this is exactly what happened. Given my military experience I think the writers did a great job with the 3 day bench mark for conventional forces being able to muster enough force to finally take it down. Given how logistics works this makes sense. Moving on. The movie made it clear conventional weapons were woefully ineffective. The knowledge that I have imparted on you have hopefully enlightened you enough to understand the error of the first 3/4 of your comment. As for the final 1/4 of your comment. Nuclear weapons and "neutron bombs" aren't the same thing. While a nuclear weapon does release neutrons when it explodes there are not enough to be a bigger threat than the giant ball of radiation that is as hot or hotter than the center of a star (if just for a brief moment) that actually does cause things to "vaporize." "Neutron bombs" don't exist. This isn't Perfect Dark. Right now trillions of neutrons are passing through your body and they are having zero interaction with you. A neutron is so small and the space between your atoms is so vast that loose neutrons from exploded stars and other sources rarely interact with matter. A neutron bomb of sufficient power wouldn't just interact with organic molecules. It would interact with everything. Organic matter would get cooked away and non-organic matter would get heated to to past the melting point. The infrastructure would be destroyed. You might be thinking of a dirty bomb that explodes radioactive material without going nuclear. This would pose a significant threat to organic life without destroying most of the buildings but I still don't think it would be a threat to the kaiju. Hopefully everyone who made it to the end of this comment has learned something today.
@@Narco42 1) of course airforce can vaporize a city, look what happened with Stalingrad, with much older weapons! 2) Neutron bombs do exist! You are mixing it with Neutrinos!!! Please educate yourself! Neutron != Neutrino! And yes, they are a nuclear weapon. Now I know you are no pilot, a pilot would definitely know what a neutron bomb is! 3) Not worth going on if you don't even know the difference between a neutron and a neutrino!
Larger animals aren't slower when you made this I think you forgot to include bears, giraffes, and rhinos These are large animals that move fast both in speed and appendage swinging Also beryllium would be a great material for it
Honestly, whenever people try to bring logic and realistic strategy into movies like this, I think back to when Alfred Hitchcock explained why he doesn't see it as a big deal that characters in thrillers don't go to the police: "They don't go to the police because it's dull." They don't do VR suits because it's dull, they don't just do regular military hardware because it's dull, and the filmmakers don't care about physics because that would be dull. Pacific Rim was as good as it was because the Jaegers not only looked real, they felt real. They were so incredibly slow to move around, and the sound design (that frankly, they got snubbed on for the Oscar) made it so memorable. And if you want proof of that, just go watch the second one, where every Jaeger just moves like a ninja.
Well I think I hard somewhere that they chanced the jaegers in the lord not the movie to make the faster in lighter and not stronger or more durable since out powering a kaiju at the point was out dated and they needed a new strategy so that's why they move around so quickly also I would like a 460 foot tall jaeger armed to the teeth to body slam literally any kaiju it faces but eh they went for some else XD
Honestly i just love the movies and the fact that these things look realistic. It would be awesome to see if technology can get to the point where one can be made. It would be amazing to see Gipsy or Striker wandering around the coast
Love the first one, the story and the characters were meh but the mechs and the monsters felt real and heavy, as opposed to the sequel featuring a bunch of brakedancing kufu fighting stunt actors dressed in mech suits.
I really liked the world building in the first movie. I couldn't stand Hannibal Chau or Dr. Gieszler in the movie. I ended up listening to the novelization book and it made them more tolerable. The book had even better world building than the movie. It was awesome. The second movie just felt out of place. It went from jaegers are to expensive to jaegers everywhere. I did like scrapper for some reason. :-)
The reason why they have the pilot inside the Jaeger dictating the movements manually is because the drift allows a near zero lag integration between the pilot and the machine. These guys would get deployed hundreds of miles away and controlling them from that far off a distance would be troublesome for something that large. Much like how a pro gamer would rather use a wired mouse over a wireless one. Another reason for the drift is so that the pilot and the jaeger would have a shared tactile sense. This is crucial for situations like the intro where they had to feel the fishing boat in their hands in order adjust how much squeeze they gotta put. Feeling the pain a jaeger takes is unfortunately a consequence to this, as there is just no way to separate those two sensations in the neural system. This is why they train pilots though. They gotta be able to take the pain of a kaiju confrontation.
They noticed early on that the kaiju were adapting and ever changing. No 2 kaijus were the same. To just pound them with conventional weapons and they would adapt to it. Build a jaeger and you have a versatile adaptive machine. My guess for the pain receptors is a side effect to sensory input. Sort of a 360 6 axis locator. It would be necessary especially for the dark environments they operate in. As for the pilot in the cockpit.... if a kaiju is fighting you while you're at a ground base and rips of the antenna or destroys the receiver or God forbid the delay there could be with storms, congratulations, you just lost your jaeger. It didnt take 2 pilots to operate the machine, it took 2 pilots to process the sensory data and make an appropriate decision. As said in the other comments, they were all nuclear powered (my guess is fission). The entire chest was the reactor.
@John Doe like the fact that really all we'd need are hypersonic missiles and maybe some rods from god, human hunting has always been about throwing projectiles till the target dies, and isn't it easier to make a new series of smaller vehicles than modify a jaeger because i don't see how a giant robot is all that adaptive. TL;DR punching someone with a giant fist won't be nearly as effective as an orbital weapons platform.
The Kaiju are defeated. Mankind nearly destorys itself with Jaegers. An accordance is made to have 1 on 1 battles to settle international disputes. Robot Jocks remake is made. Make it happen nerds.....
Because if I remember correctly at that time the oxygen content of the planet was much higher than it is today it's one of the reason why life was gigantic at the time. I believe after the earth went through several periods of nuclear winter from asteroid impacts and supervolcano eruption that killed off these large life and cause the atmosphere to change. Then made it difficult for large scale life to exist as abundantly as it did back then
More oxygen in the atmosphere back then. If you brought a giant arthropod from back then to now it would move really slowly, and sit down and suffocate, their way of breathing requires large amounts of oxygen, it would be like a human at the top of Everest, they dont have lungs capable of breathing our air.
@@toastmyrite448 well they had stronger muscles to weight ratios than current insects because they were able to fuel them more efficiently those bugs were different then modern ones
Fun Fact: The Sqaure Cub law actually helps when building large warships. You can have a bigger ship and have it hold more armor without going overboard on the weight. Good thing to know for those of you hoping to make warships for the Martian Congressional Republic.
striper names went over my head I just hought of it as names based on the militar alphabet or some sh*t "Tango Primary" "Charlie" "India Six" "Eureka" "Mikes" "November" and so on
The movie already went over the fact that they threw everything they had at the first kaiju and nothing stopped it. A tank or a bunker is nothing to a kaiju. For reference the same sort of gun ship you mentioned attacked scorpinkok in transformers 2007 and it barely scraped it. Keep in mind Bay went to great lengths to make sure everything was very accurately delivered and that they were using the best of what that gunship was loaded up with, definitely enough to deal with a tank or a bunker. I don’t even think you can say multiple gunships, even dozens of them wouldn’t damage it and it would start to become impractical to send hundreds of gunships into the air. At that point you can start to see the logic of the movie: just send 2 people and and one machine you can reload and use over and over to beat them.
I could see it moving around it's legs effectively because of the buoyancy principle, but the arms which are usually above water would be impossible, only the underwater fights could realistically work.
@@Nayo_The_Mayo I mean sure but every one of them would have to be Nuclear powered since it’s the most efficient energy source in the movies and probably in real life, we would just need some good shielding and we are good
@@TheWholeKitAndCaboodle we all do was just too ahead of its time if something like this cameout during 2015 it would rival avatar and samurai jack in USA..
I think you’re forgetting the part where they explained how they had tried conventional military weapons on these things and it took weeks and they ended up using multiple nukes to kill them. They needed something that could directly combat the kaiju. I mean realistically we could just create a giant gun strong enough to kill it but that would be a feat in and of itself. Also I’d like to point out that the jaegers were nuclear powered they didn’t use Diesel engines. They’d be using electric motors powered by a constant nuclear reaction.
If you built one from a structural frame (titanium alloy) and skinned it with boron carbide, it would work. Also just today a report came out quantifying that adding a tiny bit of silicon to boron carbide makes it approx 30% less crackable upon impact. Anyway, something to think on. Great vid full of awesome stats!
My grandson and I love the Pacific Rim movies and the new anime series, and we both agree with you....... multiple squadrons of Spooky gunships should do the trick! Cheers!
I remember after seeing Pacific Rim, I couldn't decide if it was the dumbest awesome movie I'd ever seen, or the most awesome dumb movie. It is a very well made movie, with really good acting, directing and scoring.
sheev one, first saw one in person at Farnborough 2008 on one of the trade days they’re bloody huge, I’m still impressed by how quickly something that big got off the runway, even as lightly loaded as it was.
I think it could plausible. Instead of legs I see a tracked system for movement. Likely massive electric motors running off the reactor to provide the control and instant torque needed.
9:34 “they usually only have one plasma cannon or one sword” every yeager that had weapons on their arms had them on each arm, they just only pulled out one at a time. Except for Striker Eureka, which pulls out both arms blades at the same time. Gypsy Danger was shown having plasma cannons in both arms in the first fight, with the first one ripped off before he could use it again, where he than was forced to use the other one. and in the final battle, the same thing happens but with the swords. and to note on your criticisms of the control setup for the yeagers, it’s absolutely not just like a mo-cap suit. Yes, technically that is part of it, but there’s also the massive amount of sensory feedback you’d get from all the sensors on a massive 200ft+ metal monstrosity. Not to mention the pain from damage. You need to be able to feel your environment and what you’re holding or manipulating as to not apply too much force, and pain helps you know where you have damage and generally you can figure out how to compensate from that It’s not just wearing a suit and the robot copying movements, it’s the pilots basically plugging (not necessarily literally, but close too) themselves into the robot so that it becomes their body also, it tends to be practical to have two pilots? like how they usually do in planes and helicopters? since you can have two minds working together to each come up with solutions and strategies, annnd so if one is knocked out or killed, there is at least one still in there who can keep fighting (even if there was only ever two to pull that off, it’s still better than it never having happened at all) and lastly, the thing about remote piloting? The delay would be unbearable. whatever amount of time it would take to get a signal out there would be the same amount of time going back (plus, considering the adaption, there probably would have been a kaiju You can’t have delay on the battle field Look at professional gaming and how they prefered wired connections, since they spend so much time at the controls, they notice delay. For me honestly, delay and lag in a system is can make me nauseous, which is another thing you cannot risk. The imperfections in current remote systems wouldn’t be good for this application. Simple robotics sure, but not massive machines that are meant to effectively be a second skin that has to be able to act on the fly. and on an in universe note, something interesting to note, is while yeah, massive cannons on the coastline would be pretty practical for dealing with the Kaiju (can’t just use traditional equipment because they did that, and it took a massive amount of of them to kill it, and even than it already tore through so much and killed so many.) You have to remember the Kaiju adapt, and probably would have found a way around the cannons (not that the humans would have known, cuz it seems like they might not’ve for a while and not to a full extent, my point is that it’s almost lucky they chose the path they did) Considering how dynamic a giant human piloted mech would, the human side would also be able to adapt to the situation as well, as a soldier would on a battlefield.
I assumed that drift technology was hastily assembled to get the Jaegers to work, so it put more stress on the pilot and required two pilots to handle the neural load. It's not just about hooking up VR and a game controller, it's coupling power and control systems to regulate damage, increase or decrease mechanical thrust in real-time, and convert a lighter, faster moving, smaller, and weaker human's body so it can directly control a heavier and slower, larger, and more powerful humanoid robot. Since the computer interface was so "rough and ready," and was less-refined, that put a lot of work on the pilot's brain, reduced their concentration, and was too physiologically demanding. Adding a second pilot cut back on the demands (and physical stresses), and helped improve strategy, skill, and reflexes because "two heads are better than one." In the end, that's just a sci-fi "in-universe" explanation, but it's enough to suspend disbelief and enjoy what is a great sci-fi action movie. Jaeger skeletons could be made using graphene and carbon fiber composites to decrease weight but preserve strength, and nuclear power could be used to drive bundles of artificial muscle, pump hydraulics, or drive electric motors. These could lower weight by reducing engine and propulsion mass. And if you want to get a Jaeger to "run," that might be possible by using jets of air (like the rocket punch) to push the Jaeger's limbs, while firing downward thrust from a jetpack like device so the robot is lighter on its feet.
no, it is because a pilot has to control 2 bodies at once, theirs and the jaegers. they also have to feel everything the jaeger feels, which even further stresses the brain.
They show a clip from the scene where Mako Mori is a child, I find it weird that there is a wrecked 2002-2005 Kia Sportage behind her. I imagine some backstory where it's owner had to put a lot of work into keeping it going. Sure, KIA's parent company, Hyundai, pulled out of Japan in 2009, but this Sportage owner loved that little foreign SUV. The KIA's owner scoured the internet importing parts just so the SUV could pass Shaken. The Sportage passed inspection with flying colors, only to be destroyed by a Kaiju, Onibaba, a few days after passing.
Some of the points posed are covered in the expanded content of like the comics and stuff. In the movie, I think they suggested robots over military vehicles was due to the fact that it took days and weeks for conventional military tech to kill a kaiju (this including nukes). The idea of the jaegars was to give the kaiju something to hunt (assuming that the kaijus were mindless beasts). Originally designes lure them away from cities if possible to then allows the use of kaiju killing weapons such as the plasma cannons and so on. All in all, if you do break it down it doesn't make sense. And in all honesty, in the realm of pacific rim, there was no honest way they could win that war. Weapons used to kill kaijus were too expensive to keep producing or had severe side effects (think the effects of a nuke). They won due to a mad scientist with a crazy assumption followed by a nice series of luck (which arguably is realistic in itself where sometimes a fight is won when the right opportunity is grasped).
My favorite part about this: although he ultimately demolished the movie as unrealistic, he doesn’t condemn it like so many other critics, he respects the concepts well and lets the audience choose what they will do with his information. Great video!
You actually bring up a point i really want to see explored. I came into Pacific Rim from a 40K world thinking oh these are similar to Titans in Warhammer. But where are the Knights (Single pilot miniature titans). Smasher from uprising proves it can be done. Come on where are my swarms of 20-50ft tall mini Jeagars
You missed that even longer sessions of VR gaming can be very tiresome on the brain, and that's minus all sensory input etc from one of these gigantic beasts
If jaegers were remotely piloted the kaijus would adapt to all have short range emps (similar to the one leatherback had). Kaijus learn from every battle and they’ll just send in kaijus made to take out a specific target. This is the main reason why they didn’t just strap anti kaiju weapons to jets and tanks. Our armies are our last line of defense incase the jaegers fail. The only weapon I could see actually being effective for a long period of time is a purity weapon. Kaijus can only survive on earth because of how polluted the planet is. They originally came to earth during the dinosaur age but the earth was too pure and they didn’t have the capabilities to purify it. If we used purity based weapons that could purify a small area for a certain amount they probably wouldn’t try to return. If they never figured out a way to terraform or make kaijus that could survive in pure environments, then they probably couldn’t defend against the attacks.
"Multiple vehicle platforms with multiple weapons." I think they were called Zords or Battle Zords -- depending on which Power Rangers you want to reference. Or the Lions if you want to reference Voltron -- preferably Legendary Defender.
The reason they built jaeger's was to be able to beat the kaiju to death to keep their blood an organs fron poluting the environment, thats why they didn't use conventional weapons on them
Apart from anything else, I would think these diesel engines mentioned could make movement of the limbs plausible, to a point. Trucks pull superloads all the time, with the largest at 4800 tons moved by trucks in Saudi Arabia back in 2012. I also remember some evaporator moved by 10 trucks (5 pull/5 push) in Texas that weighed over 400,000 lbs. If for instance the Crimson Typhoon had 50 of these diesel engines, it wouldn't be hard to move a limb, although I agree the stress of moving such weight at those speeds would cause it to tear itself apart.
So based off of gravity and mass, kaijus would appear through the breach and be pounded by a significant amount of weight, therefore the kaiju would collapse or crush on itself because the dimension from which they emerged is a gravity-less space-like zone.
Okay, raise your hand if this happened to you when you read the text in the thumbnail. "Can we build it?" Followed by the Bob the Builder "YES WE CAN!" reply.
I get the bit about "scaling up" fails with certain types of structures and materials. Absolutely correct. But terrestrial arthropod (typically insects and arachnids) size is not limited by exoskeleton strength, it's limited by the amount of oxygen in the air. Hard-shelled invertebrates don't have lungs. Their respiratory systems (book lungs for arachnids and simple air passages through the body for insects) aren't efficient enough to scale up. When scaled up, the internal volume of the creatures is too much tissue to be properly oxygenated even though the respiratory system is scaled up too. Early in Earth's history, there was a period with a much higher percentage of oxygen in the air (higher oxygen partial pressure), that allowed terrestrial invertebrates to grow to considerable size. Not humongous, but what we would consider alarmingly large - dragonflies with 3-foot wingspans and millipedes six feet long. The inefficiency of invertebrates' respiratory systems is the limiting factor on their growth (under current atmospheric conditions) not exoskeleton strength. (This is why the ants of "Them" are impossible.)
@@verycoaljohn4890 The saying goes "learn to walk before you start running" the gundam is the walk size, the Jaeger is the upgrade to that. (also the Jaeger sized mech does have mobile suits/armor in the Gundam show.)
You left out the fact that it took multiple tactical nukes to kill a single Kaiju. That would require more than the combined firepower of every AC-130 ever built from Vietnam to present. Next is the defensive and offensive capabilities of the Kaiju. Their armor could absorb any conventional munitions and ordinance.
Maybe if they figure out a way to mount the rheinmetal 130mm firing APFSDS and shoot it point blank then maybe it might do some damage. The recoil would brick the plane tho
The pilots are mentally connected to the Jaeger to allow them to feel things, such as picking up the boat to beat Otachi with. If they couldn’t feel the boat in their hand, they could very easily drop it / crush it. Later on in the film, Gypsy’s arm gets ripped off but the pilot aren’t screaming in pain, this indicates a fail safe / limit on the amount of pain the pilots can feel, later into the development of Jaegers.
Without sensors in the arms how would they be able to feel if they are applying too much pressure (when they picked up the boat) or how how it was sitting in the hand making sure it wouldn't fall out
The Rule of Cool dictates that if any plot point, item, character, vehicle or weapon seems cool, it will work whether it makes sense or not. 😂 Pacific Rim Jaegers are definitely cool
Goddamn- thank you SO much for properly pronouncing “chitin”!!! I’m mainly a Warhammer fan, and I can’t tell you just how tired I am of hearing even the most prolific RU-vid Warhammer content creator mispronounce “chitin” as “chit-tin”- you’re awesome!!!
We have seen how hard its been to make the life-size gundam walk, so a Jaeger that dwarves a gundam would I imagine be several times more difficult a Jaeger!
Wow I didn’t even know they were called Jaeger in English too. Since it’s German, like me, I just thought they translated it from “hunters“ or whatever
There is also the Rift to consider. As powerful as the Kaiju are, they arrive at a choke point. Why isn't the Shatterdome Rift adjacent? Why haven't weapons systems been stationed near the Rift itself?
If we thinking realistic we wouldn't need to defend our coasts at all. Remember: due to their enormous size, the Kaiju will have the same problems as the Jeagers. That means, as soon they're trying to go to land, they will be doomed to death like a stranded blue whale.
Well because the weapon systems they had didn't work at such depths, if you look at last fight they only use blades to kill the last 3 kaijus despite having more weapons, as it seems the plasma from Gipsy and chest cannon from Striker were made to use on surface. Also even if they had weapons on the Breach, the Precursors would soon create a kaiju that could tank hits and make short work of them before reinforcements could arrive.
I feel like you missed something there. Considering the methods of killing Kaijus, using those MGs on them would have very little effect on their bodies. After all, they keep having to use the last resort of nuclear attacks the first 4 times before deciding to build the Jagers
