Honestly don't buy this crap printer. I don't believe it's worth even the 89 bucks. It's a waste of plastic and electronics. They should make quality products for a good price that lasts. This product is just designed to add more electronics waste to the pile. China where are your ethics? Oh lol. I forgot..
That pony looks very good for the cost of the printer. I expect getting the settings right would make it a good choice for someone printing minis for D&D and similar small things.
F Huber I think FDM is the wrong technology for minis. If I wanted to make minis, I’d definitely spend a little more money and invest in an SLA printer.
Bugger as if I've not spent enough over Christmas, just ordered one for my boy :) well, it's arrived and printing, the included slicer is perfect for younger users.
Thanks for sharing. I too thought of it that way too. It's only $89. You aren't forking out hundreds of dollars at this and your samples are impressive indeed. Love your channel. Can't wait for your next vid.
I'm curious about the other thermal runaway situation (or if it even could happen, based on the construction). That is, if the thermistor is still connected to the board but is removed from the hot end assembly, meaning the printer might keep heating the hot end to reach the target temp. Neat little device!
Noticed it too. Curious^^ was that segment of video made before he had orinted everything? If not that tels me he was capable of those prints with that loose of a belt! ( probably because there is such low print speed it didnt slip but still ) thats wicked! Such an easy fix and you can probably print faster
@Matthew Findley Jeez someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. XD
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I've run any number of tensions on my belt, it's honestly not a big deal for slow prints. The part that actually pulls the head gets taught when the motor is running.
THIS is what I've been waiting for. A fully functional (and mostly assembled) printer for a reasonable price. That it can be used to make parts for a larger, open source printer cheaply is a bonus. Too bad the "flash sale" is only 1% when I checked it.
Michael WithadoubleB that doesn’t have to do with tensioning the belt. The belt can be tensioned properly with just a zip tie and it’s pretty easy and not risky to do.
@@KrishnaVijayraman how would you use a ziptie to do it? I would 3d print a belt tensioner, it's 30 minute job and requires a small spring and maybe some screws aside from 3d printable stuff.
@@lazar2175 you can see zip tied belts being tensioned on smaller printers such as this and the tronxy xy-100. A belt tensioner is overkill as you can get good tension by just lining the jaws of the belt with each other and then zip tying it tight to lock the jaws in place. You have to make sure you can pull the belt as tight as possible though before you line up the jaws (without putting too much strain on the belt so that it doesn't break). This should provide good belt tension and you can clip off any excess belt provided you zip tie it near the extruder head (obviously not near the bearings). In fact if you look at the back of the Prusa printers, you can see what I mean by locking the belt with its own jaws.
@@KrishnaVijayraman Thanks a lot, i wouldn't have thought of that in ages lol, this will come in handy because i made my own printer and my belts stretch out so i just 3d printed a small gear tensioned by 2 springs from a ball point pen. This solution is much more elegant and will increase the reliability of my 3d printer because my belt will sometimes slip out or get loose. Thank you so much!
Sounds like a bad hottend design and I’d change it personally unless it broke with user error and you just had it smash into an object and destroy itself with some powerful motors and flying across at 200+ mm/s (aka “head crashing”) Most hotends are like $15 (the extruder is not part of the hottend), so like when I wanted to switch to cheaper 3mm rolls it cost me like $12 for the heatsink/heater block/heater/thermocouple/nozzle/quick connect (I switched mine from 1.75 direct to 3mm Bowden for more speed) and it works well (I have printed above 150mm/s through bigger nozzles and it handles the flow rate just fine), even printing over-extruded for 1.5mm to really dump material in fast because I use it like a rapid prototype machine and I can make multiple per hour of 3 inch diameter by half inch thick double herringbone gears (solid infil) on my machine with smaller 0.5 nozzle. I’ve seen people on robotics teams get way worse hot ends for like $60 and I look at it and point out a lot of flaws compared to mine in like 10 second glance, you obviously need to know what to look for but I’m shocked the price variation is so much for often inferior products (and yeah that design sucked in every way I thought it would). It’s bad when the purchasing is in charge of someone with the logic of “well it costs more so it must be better” and ignores the overall inferior design. I could see a nozzle costing $85 though, maybe that’s what cost so much on yours (or it’s some proprietary inferior garbage designed so poorly it breaks partly in the hopes of scamming more customers with replacement parts like those Makerbots with wailing motors and crappy single piece driver board controllers that seem to blow up unlike most DIY parts, inexcusable poor quality for $2k machines losing to $200 DIY machines). You can tell I like proprietary right? Haha!
Awesome little printer, thanks for posting the review. Have been playing with it since Christmas, the key to good quality from it is go slower. 27mm/s seems to be the fastest before quality starts to degrade. Also too 0.1mm seems to be the finest it copes with, without making a mess. Will look at adding the fan, keen to grab the link to the .stl proposed for this. :)
WOW! I can't believe that works. I have had worse prints on my Ender 3 (before calibration of course) 3D printing tech has really grown and come down in price. Amazing! Thanks for the video.
You're the second one to do a review on this. On my Monoprice Mini, it also has no cooling fan so I just use a USB dual fan and that always did the job for me. But at this price, it will be great for any parent who wants to get one for there kid who's been dying for one. I hope that you and your family had a great New Year and can't wait to see what you have for us this year.
"Thermal Runaway" and magnetic plate, it literally offers more with that as some 300€ bigger ones. The nice point is, it´s IDEAL if you are a tinkerer who can upgrade the frame for instance. Love how this one turned out. Just had a giggle by thinking "Hmmm... let´s test a large print at 60mm/s" Joe leaves for the night, turns back, just finds all parts of the poor lil freak scattered around with the motors still moving... :P
:D 60mm/s, the thing just about hemorrhages... 27mm/s is the max I've got without the quality going south. So yes, slower than the big boys, though it chugs away quite well...
I've had similar so I clean the plate with 'bathroom cleaner' and scrub it and dry it well before each use. It's done the job. No more peeling off half way through a print. Chuffed to bits with mine.
I'm glad you made this video, I've been looking at this printer and trying to find out the specs and info to compare it to the Prusa Mini, which I have ordered. I will be waiting for the X2 version of this machine as it includes an LCD on the console and more controls like preheat, I also like that the X2 moves the hot end away from the part when paused then returns when you resume the print job. You've confirmed my thoughts about this machine and I will be ordering when the X2 is released in 1 month. Thanks :D
The X2 has display, but there is no real advantage in that, using it is even easier without the screen... Except that you can screen live the hotend-temperature, and so, detect faults, just in case they should occur...
There is easy way to add part colling fan just download model for it from online(Enter something like easythreed x1 part colling fan model)and ju just put a small fan in 3d printer and it will becom a part colling fan.Here is link for better explanation and model. www.aliexpress.com/item/4000469006532.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.559f5d34dkg16N&algo_pvid=d39d0048-5cb0-4ac6-9ff3-440be4b99a0e&algo_expid=d39d0048-5cb0-4ac6-9ff3-440be4b99a0e-0&btsid=f61f3362-6e7b-44e6-99af-e592da0af92a&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4,searchweb201603_55. You dont need to buy this fan just take one.
The Tronxy X3 is $99 kit. It has a screen and there is a simple fan duct you can print for free (flaps so it’s great for PLA and closes off the nozzle side for ABS). I’m fairly impressed with its results and it’s 200x200x200 standard print volume (technically it’s more, but that’s kind of it’s class size). It’s also very good because it teaches you how everything is assembled and you can fearlessly fox and modify it. It’s also easier than most LEGO kits I did when I was 12, like significantly easier, so you can have fun building it with your 10 year olds (or much younger depending on the kid, I think I could have built all but the wiring due to safety when I was 8, but that doesn’t mean I didn’t play with 110v AC when I was 8, haha!)
i bought an Imakrr Startt two years ago for 99 bucks as my then 12 year olds (and mine) first printer. Basically a rebranded tronxy product. sort of a (130 by 140 mm) mini Anet A8 with a v6 clone and no heated bed. We have since ran 600 hours through that printer. We now have a prusa clone a Sunly S8 and building a large scale core XY machine. All because of that little Startt!
No, it doesn't. There's barely any material in this, and dinky little $1 motors everywhere, no heated bed, tiny little lightweight thing overall so cheaper to ship. I'm not going to claim that there aren't many many companies and products with high margins, but if you think of something like Ender3 and its various siblings (Geeetech A10, Tevo Tarantula, etc which all have their advantages) around $200 mark, there really isn't all that much margin in there, probably not that much difference. Correspondingly for 2-ish times the price you don't get a printer that's merely twice as good, you get one that is really like 10 times as good. Not only 4 times the print area and 8 times the print volume, but also much more stable and capable of higher forces, tougher to print materials, etc. But i don't mean to bash on this little thing, it's kind of remarkable in the mere fact that it works at all in spite of being made of very low-cost hardware. There is value in getting something made which is the barest and cheapest thing that could possibly work, someone might just need exactly that to get themselves off the ground.
@@SianaGearz Even then to get the features you described, I can just buy from China. It's much cheaper because of your Taxation in the West. The west always lose in terms of price
Not necessarily. The ones that come out first have development costs. The later ones do not have such steep development costs, but have price elasticity from competition.
Izzy, não esperava encontrar um brazuca famoso por aqui! Cara, você me ajudou a comprar o meu Kobo com o review que você fez dele, você recomenda a compra dessa impressora 3d?
I’m going to get this printer! I need a small cheap printer for doll customization, and with a bit of sanding and with epoxy should make some pretty good pieces for doll customization! Thanks for the review! ☺️
FYI: I bought the same 3D Printer a few days ago and got a X1 with an ET4000 V2 (Atmel Atmega1284) mainboard. So don't expect to always get a 32Bit mainboard.
This would be so nice for my grandkids. I can't even trying to make one at that price, even using parts I already have and calling those free parts. Thanks for posting the video and not just reformatting your memory card to be forever lost.
I work with very expensive industrial printers and I am surprised and excited to see these inexpensive printers starting get better. I hope they use the fan and wifi parts on the board soon.
This is actually really amazing. It's so cheap for a 3D printer, under 100 dollars and still produces good quality prints! And it has thermal runaway protection! The fact that it even works at all is amazing. It seems stable enough and it has a direct drive extruder. It might even be able to print flexible filament. For 89 dollars, I think it's worth the money. It works well and is easy to use. It could be a good addition to a workspace for printing small and medium sized parts.
I got this 3-D printer and then I watch the review and when I got it it works better than expected I wanted a low budget device that can make 3-D models if your kid wants A 3-D printer this is when to get them it’s super easy to set up in the newer models you can buy on Amazon come with a rocket ship 3-D print sample and within about 25 minutes it should be finished printing I’d like to say I’m happy with this purchase and it’s one of the best budget 3-D printers I’ve ever had I highly recommend it
There is now a pre-installed cooling fan on it. Small but its already installed. They also give you like a model to "upgrade" the thing that diverts the air so you can replace the pre-installed one. Might change the fan for a bigger one, like the one he showed on the video.
Based on my experience as a raw beginner with the M3D Micro (through Kickstarter) it will probably take a complete beginner a lot more than days or weeks to outgrow this.
in 2015 when I got my M3D mircro, I used it for 2 years. It had the same build volume, but was 300 dollars more than this. Can't wait to see the future of budget 3D printing!
@5:50 Wait wait wait, hold on a minute... isn't that setup basically direct drive??? Why aren't more printers using a similar setup with a pancake stepper or NEMA 14 right out of the box?
I think its about speed limit. The motor looks like a geared one (bigger than the 1$ type you get from china, but definitly with an internal gear - as you can see in the video, the motor sits centric, but on the other side you see the axis is not centric - a definit sign for an internal gear (but not an planetary one) inside to get the force to move the filament. This type of motor typicly use a high gear ratio (impossible to move the axis by hand), so the motor has to rotate with a relative high speed to push the filament slowly. In my opinion, this is the reason the printer prints so slow - it can not push more filament in time with this design, as the speed of a stepper is limited.+ But of course it is impressive and I hope some more development will be done there.
Try a MonoPrice delta mini on black Friday sales(£65/$85) You can get almost prusa i3 quality prints and it's cheap, but there's no assembly required. Prints out of the box.
I just picked one of these up today for $75 canadian. It is used but from what i can tell it was just the free filiment. I know its cheap but im not looking to enter a whole new hoppy I am just adding another tool to the tool box. Everything i can do to make it work better while staying cheap will be done.
I have a Prusa i3 replica, the reason being its cheaper. I love the way people are upgrading and going further into the premium. category. my concern is that we are now outdoing these printers and the goal for the fdm printers; cheap and accessible. I love the way Prusa mini has come across, but still far too expensive, would you agree? I would like to see a challenge that uses cheap accessible electronics and print the rest of the build, such as the bearings and brackets. In a way that it's replicable as well as accessible to the wide audience.
Move ahead to Aug 1, 2020: received mine (printer #31) from LightBox in China, fan duct and fan was installed, very nice quality for the price, and way better than all early reviews, Handles TPU.
So much better than the 101 Zero lol! That was the worst ever printer! The only thing I liked about it was it was a delta and it did not need to be connected by usb to the pc to print! Eventually I turned that printer into a spool holder... it makes for a excellent spool holder as you can have multiple spools 🧵 on it.
Dude! For $89? This thing is outstanding! It looks like they built the hotend from some of the OLD Reprap designs. I hope you keep using it and keep us informed. If I don't get one my self, I would love to hear about the kind of mantainance experience you have.
I have one...prints pretty well...but the only problem is it uses those slow 28BYJ-48 geared steppers...so printing at much over 10mm/s will cause the motors to get quite hot Definitely a toyish printer..but GREAT if you want to get something for the kiddo's to play around with...but is pretty darn fun!!
Seems like a rather nice groundwork for building up. Fanshroud there, a bit of support here... In the end, makes prints rivaling a genuine Prusa, but has about 99% new parts, printed and otherwise. :) A 3D printer of Theseus...
At that price I'm intrigued. I only have an SLA printer side I figured if I was going to spend $200+ I wanted the best quality prints I could get. But there are reasons I would like to try an FDM.
As long as it is calibrated, any printer will often do. You dont get super quality for a high price, part cooling fans are not necessary for pla or a heated bed either. Petg prints go fine on mine cheap homebuilt in wood and aluminium tubes. As long as you take time to adjust most printers are equal to a prusa or a mendel
Not a fan of the lack of a screen/dumbed down controls but you could just head to microcenter, pick up a pi zero w for $5, throw octoprint on it and presto - you've got a stupidly good setup for just under $100.
Apparently Labists is selling this same exact 3D printer but under their brand... I got it for $50 more than advertised here. It's a shame. Also, the starting filament kinda sucks? But that honestly doesn't surprise me. Good review, nice to know that *eventually* it might produce something of actually acceptable quality.
Bought Anet A8 (Prusa i3 clone) at 109$ (6600 rub). More flexible managing of printing, non floating in air x-axis, field 20x20cm and heating bed costs more than 10$ I think. But you can add 10$ at your "gift", add small "how to", and get more gratitude.
Honestly, it doesn't look half bad for someone's first 3D printer. For someone wanting to try out the tech and see if it's something they'd want, the price is def right.
I’d be super interested to see how far one could self upgrade with one of these. As it be really cool, to start with something like this. Build more parts from it. And build it up slowly. Who knows?
So that's what I was thinking of doing , upgrading slowly over time first increasing the size of the printer and then who knows . I ordered one last night to start experimenting with
its very good print for this price main reasons- low printing speed direct extruder with cheap components quite a good assembly and small printing area that makes it easier to work ( less problems with the geometry of the frame, etc.)
This could very well become my first 3D printer. I was looking for a 3D printer to print small knickknacks that could help me around like cable clips, small dustplugs for weirdly shaped connectors, not aesthetic prints, and I really can't afford... Well, probably this print either, but it's far easier to save up for this than for a 150€ one.
Thank you for this great video. I've been wanting to get into 3D printing (since I do a lot of DIY synth stuffs and am often in need of small parts), but the price was always an issue. When I saw this cheap thing I doubted it would be any good, but glad to see it holds up! Going to order soon :D
A much better printer at this price range is the Tronxy X3 (it’s a kit, so you’ll have to put it together, but it sounds like you probably know how to assemble LEGOs so you’ll be fine). It’s way bigger, much much faster printing, and higher quality prints. If you get one you’ll want 2 mods and then it’s golden (and they are printable with like $0.40 in plastic, so no big deal). It’s just a way better machine, but it does take a while to assemble (it’s fun though, it really is just like being a kid again but with “high tech” LEGOs, but pretty much all aluminum extrusions and a few bearings. It’s just a lot of screws, haha! It’s my second printer (first one I built over 6 years ago and just modified everything on it, a total Frankenstein monster totally tailoring it to my needs and preferences, but I wanted a second one). Sure I wanted to spend $500 on the second printer, but honestly didn’t like most of them, they were all basically Ender 3 level of performance (which isn’t bad for the Ender 3), but I wanted the fun of building another one, and the Ender didn’t have a parts bucket/kit option so I went with this. If you have the budget Ender 3 is better but the Tronxy X3 is remarkably impressive for its under $100 price tag shipped to your door in the US. (PS, I’m a mechanical and aerospace engineer, I love designing and modifying everything, almost as much fun modding printers as using them to make gears and whatever else I need printed for my projects, most of the mainstream printers are very modding/upgrade friendly).
That's pretty incredible. Yes it's small and not perfect, but probably just a year ago it would've cost double to get a decent 3D print. Regardless if this does well it's making 3D printing more affordable.
I have a strange urge to get one, stick an skr minor Bowden setup and see what it can do, I'd imagine would be quite capable ahha, but then just before Christmas I managed to bag a monoprice select mini pro for just £92 on their website for my missus first printer haha, now that is a real deal for sure
Two items would make this much better. Add on a printed E3D clone hot end and figure out how to hack the main board firmware. From all the work I'me seen you do you could knock out the E3D mount in a day!
Easy Threed X1 challenge Design and upgrade for the printer and must fit its existing print bed. V6 clone maybe stock looks pretty decent. The stock also prints flexables amazingly. Geared extruder with existing stepper Threaded rod frame stiffeners, a diagional one on the z would be amazing Gear down the x, y and z axis for precision. Oh and the part cooling fan 👍
Actually it is a nice toy. But you can get an much better printer for that price - buy a used or "refubrished" printer. I paid about 80€ for my Monoprice Delta Mini direct from Monoprice. It was an retoure sold again for reduced price. I definitly know why it was retoured - the bed did not heat up. Opened the base - a connector was loose. That was all. So with 5 minutes of efford I got a practicly new Monoprice Delta mini for the price of that printer you show. And there are definitly worlds between the quality... But definitly - I am impressed. As it is a toy and as you say correctly the user might grow out of this maybe in weeks or even days, I think it will go on ebay as used printer soon. With even a lower price... I think it might be hard to resist if they are sold used on eBay.
And another thing when it comes to how his printer came out in mine I was actually just printing directly off and pulling it directly out of a box as is no modifications at all in the current state besides having the build plate itself get to a point where I can't even do please print so therefore I had to use the 3M blue painter's tape method
I actually like this one. It's totally bare-bones, but it's enough to do its job while being cheaper than some hotends, which is more than you can say for the $100-200 printers a few years ago. Looks like maintenance would be dead simple, aside from maybe the practically inevitable clogged nozzle that just seems to happen to most newbies to printing, and those are a pain on basically everything.
i think this printer is the perfect example of buy once cry once. Its definetly aimed as a present. if you have kids your kids get sth better so you dont blow out 90$ in to weeks when you outgrow it. as a present you spent 90$ ask a nother person to colaberate on a gift and get an ender 3 its only twice the price has an interface real steppers a comunity and is made of aluminium not plastic. You coud even ask the perants owning the child if they woud be interestet caus everybody profits when a houshold gets a 3d printer.
Yeah but for $89 you can also get one of those cheaper Anet A8 clones. The wooden ones with bottom of the barrel bearings and the smallest heated bed in the world. Still an Anet A8 though and can be easily upgraded back to or even past the functionality of the original for less than $40 more.
Not sure if anyone already said this but, there is an extra fan socket inside the noozle box. I heard someone mention it on another review and it would be good to know just in case you want to add a cooling fan inside
