The Cheapest eBike On Amazon Vs An XC Pro

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Crosscountry bikes are some of the fastest bikes in the world! They allow riders to travel unbelievably fast in comparison to other types of mountain bikes. However, they can be very expensive, with some bikes costing over $10,000! So what if you could get some of that ‘free speed’ but for a fraction of the price? In this video, Rich Payne is riding the cheapest UK road-legal bike which cost only £540 against Cannondale Factory Racing’s Charlie Aldridge!
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@gmbn 5 месяцев назад

Are you riding this weekend? If so where are you going?

@nukedathlonman 5 месяцев назад

Sorta - but staying stationary on the trainer (though picturing some of my favorite riding places in my mind).

@simonm1447 5 месяцев назад

Summer here at the saphir coast in NSW - unfortunately it rained the last days and the trails may be too wet (they don't like riding on wet trails due to damage to the trails). However beach riding with the fat bike is always possible

@mikeriley1475 5 месяцев назад

Always. Had an unusually warm day in the DC area so hit up Fountainhead (local trail system in Lorton VA).

@JustnInTime 5 месяцев назад

🤢 Sic 🤢🤮🥶🤮🔥🎉😀

@chillout1109 5 месяцев назад

I'm a fair weather cyclist. My bike is all polished and parked up now until around March-April next year after this horrible British winter season is over.

@jonk6834 5 месяцев назад

Charlie is an absolute machine! I reckon you’d have had a hard time beating him even if you’d started on the “proper” e-bike.

@richarde1355 5 месяцев назад

That Scalpel is absolutely sexy!

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe 5 месяцев назад

I reckon even my 1000w ebike build couldn't beat him, I ain't got the skill to ride this sort of terrain as well I just stay on roads.

@xd1be9nb7v 4 месяца назад

i'd say it's just fair to have the electric power assist since these pros dope anyway

@darrylmorgan 5 месяцев назад

Great effort Rich.Just goes to show how quick top XC racers like Charlie really are.Definitely be a great rematch dude!!!

@mcxstar04 5 месяцев назад

Best GMBN video in ages!! What a legend Charlie is!! He looked SO fast!! Don’t forget Richard is a pretty fit guy which is a testament to how quick Charlie was!! Keep Charlie in the videos! Top guy!!

@WerdnaLiten 5 месяцев назад

Charlie is a future XC Elite World champ......having already won Junior & U23 Titles.

@seattlegrrlie 5 месяцев назад

He just whips that bike around. Mad skills!

@EarthlyEden1 5 месяцев назад

How did cameraman jack get all those shots post dealing with the puncture. He must have been faster than the pair of you. 😅

@junka1975 5 месяцев назад

Holy crap! Charlie is fast. I would love to see him and Rich both on their XC bikes on a short course to get a comparison because Rich is no slouch on an XC bike. Rich being above the limiter of the full power and with the added weight E-bike might actually be at a slight disadvantage.

@andrewwilliams6963 5 месяцев назад

Tires alone put him at a serious disadvantage. These are fun but keeping the budget closer might be more entertaining.

@drbobjohnson812 5 месяцев назад

Rematch? Absolutely, do with 3 riders. Keep Rich on the budget e-bike add another rider, put a weekend warrior average guy MTBer or a cameraman on the full power E-Bike vs Charlie. Maybe break it up into stages, flat, climb, descend

@TE_53349 5 месяцев назад

That first trail is the absolute definition of me and my friends. My friends on trail bikes and me on a heavy, slow downhill bike

@richarde1355 5 месяцев назад

What an awesome video! I fell/crashed at least 20 times just watching this piece! Both riders are incredibly skilled and, as Rich noted, “survived”. Wow. Wow. I wonder how much Charlie could smoke that trail if HE were in ebike?!?

@yuglobalcitizen2246 5 месяцев назад

Rich is much better than average riders in terms skills and stamina. He rode that endurance race laat time and ended up in hospital right? I wish i can be 1/4 as good as Rich. No way to compare to Pro XC champion

@richardpayne5176 5 месяцев назад

Thanks dude, yeah Charlie’s a beast 💪 watch out for a rematch on one of the two races you mentioned 😉

@frankharradence732 5 месяцев назад

Great watch...loved the contrast

@adamsmith2484 5 месяцев назад

Epic race, bloody hell Charlie is fast as f**k - definitely another race on full power e-bike would be good to see who wins!

@itsnot1673 5 месяцев назад

about 400watts should do it

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe 5 месяцев назад

@@itsnot1673the ebike he's riding after the cheap one got a puncture already has a motor that can put out 700 watts of power when it's stressed. 250w essentially means nothing and even cheap bikes can peak at 500 and hold it easily.

@redbomberr4594 5 месяцев назад

🤣😅😂 Great fun vid guys. Mech'Aldridge the machine 👊

@greylynnjr 5 месяцев назад

Great sound mixing!

@mitch_smith 5 месяцев назад

We all know Rich can leg it, but Charlie was hauling more ass than a rush hour train. Amazing efforts guys.

@FloridaEbikes 5 месяцев назад

This is exactly the kind of tests we need . I'd love try the pro with my modded budget xc ebike thats actually got trail tires hydros etc.

@georgemorrow356 5 месяцев назад

Wow! This video really gives some context to what it means to be a pro xc rider. Beast mode.

@wackedoutdude 5 месяцев назад

the 15.5mph limiter really holds ebikes back. I find they hit a wall and it makes it more difficult to clear jumps ect. Its can be done but makes it hard.

@simonm1447 5 месяцев назад

Additionally the crank is typically internally geared on mid drives, so you don't just get no support any more but you pedal through a gearbox with some losses compared to a normal crank. These mid drives are not made to be pedaled without the motor support

@cup_and_cone 5 месяцев назад

In a country where there's no limiter, a proper eBike handily wins by making up so much time on the straights and climbs. It really puts it into perspective how much of an advantag eBikes are and their potential pitfalls.

@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe 5 месяцев назад

That's why I fitted a 1000w kit from eBay :). £200 for the kit and £400 for the battery and I've now got a 30mph bike. I tried riding it with the restriction wire plugged in on the controller and it's awful.

@danielcobb8886 5 месяцев назад

"Full XCR" haha. Good race guys. Quite a few laughs with this vid. Cheers.

@MTBPerspective 5 месяцев назад

Beast mode for sure! I used to race XC marathon and now after almost 1000miles on my Trance E+ I wish such a thing had existed back then for training. Getting to ride sections of trails repeatedly at speeds to test lines and scout trails would have been a huge benefit! I still ride my other bikes and faster on those because of the eMTB.

@pauloralobikeride 5 месяцев назад

Charlie is a real machine but... yes! Try the rivange with a full power all the way 😂

@oettam20 5 месяцев назад

This is the unique aspect of eBike. With a full Enduro bike like the Strive:on you can be as fast as the world champion on a 12k XC bike without scarfing your entire life to MTB training.

@chiefsilverback 5 месяцев назад

I think Rich puts in a fair amount of training, and is a proper quick rider, and he could only just keep up with Charlie, the average rider on an e-bike might hold with a pro for a few minutes before they were burnt out.

@mariopejovic 5 месяцев назад

Charlie is a beast. And on my follow list. Finally tall guy to represent us all above 185cm 💪great video Rich. Thank you for doing great XC content. And congrats on that race. It was fun to watch :)

@ride6884 5 месяцев назад

Now that was great to watch, great job GMBN!

@rogertitcombe1870 5 месяцев назад

That was impressive, will be good to see and compare on your e bike

@lacucaracha111111 5 месяцев назад

You could try and compare that to a DIY one with a CYC Photon (no throttle = also UK legal) You get to use your gears with a hub motor which will be loads better on climbs and offroad

@iangriffiths929 5 месяцев назад

Awesome video as always guys! Charlie is a beast!

@oswaldoaguilar9933 5 месяцев назад

How fast is this guy to beat a e bike mad props to this guy.

@aldomaresca9994 5 месяцев назад

Epic! What a beast of a rider! My respects to charlie

@user-tq3ud9zi7w 5 месяцев назад

That cheap Ebike may seem cheap at first but once you factor in the hundreds of thousands of dollars that your house costs to replace once it has burnt down it is actually not good value.

@nathanielrosa1 5 месяцев назад

On the switchbacks you were like a weeping angel to him 😂

@mdmcv 5 месяцев назад

This was an awesome video. Was on the edge of my seat the whole time.

@nitrous50 5 месяцев назад

Great video rich! Team cannondale will all be out racing an e-biker for training now lol!

@belm0_ 5 месяцев назад

This was cute, but it would be more interesting to test whether a hardtail emtb is viable on blue/red trails in the first place (assuming reasonable fork, brakes, and tires). See if rear hub vs. mid-drive makes any difference. Next question is whether full suspension with rear hub retrofit is viable. No one on YT has delved into these questions. Given the crazy high prices of proper full-suspension emtb's, people are looking for alternatives. (FWIW, used emtb prices are also lofty and most listings never sell, because owners can't face the staggering depreciation.)

@lanuyey4593 4 месяца назад

Bruh my normal hatdtail can do blue and red without even thinking about it.

@alifattaholmanan2351 5 месяцев назад

The edit and content both are great

@escapenguin 5 месяцев назад

That one jump Charlie overshot was a good indicator of how much ass he was hauling.

@mattchay84 5 месяцев назад

Great video, so close at the end . Charlie is a machine!

@ivansemanco6976 5 месяцев назад

Im interested in little bit different thing, how long witstand proper ebike drivetrain such pace in comparison with XC bike. Or how expensive is to match pro XC rider with ebike. Very nice video guys, thanks.

@mattpike7268 5 месяцев назад

I absolutely love these vs videos. So much fun to watch.

@chillout1109 5 месяцев назад

Those cheap Amazon bikes are only called eMTBs in name to be honest. They don't really work off-road. They are more suitable for tarmac riding where the worst surface you will encounter are portholes and manhole covers. Anything more gnarly than that and the bike will just disintegrate under you. Just to see how different the performance level is, in the next video, we need to see : 1. A high-end lightweight eMTB vs high-end XC (with pros on both bikes) 2. A high-end full power eMTB vs high-end XC (with pros on both bikes)

@Bob_Shy_132 5 месяцев назад

The second half of that was actually pretty cool.

@the_spanner_ch7mp 5 месяцев назад

Wow what an epic race, boy is Charlie fast 😮 What did you guys think of the trails at OnePlanet Adventure? I can confirm some of those hills are killers especially the switch back ones. Great stuff and definitely need a rematch #GMBN 🤘

@madtownangler 5 месяцев назад

I can remember when we had three chainrings in the front and the largest was usually over 40 teeth

@simonm1447 5 месяцев назад

You still get such 3 x cranks, the typical ones for mtbs are 22/32/44, while you also get some with 42 or 40. Personally I ride a 2x on my XC with 22/36, with a 11/36 cassette that's still sufficient for 50 kph

@deadmoo83 5 месяцев назад

That was really fun to watch.

@Rustyfox46 5 месяцев назад

That 3 mile climb is a warm up 👊🏻

@sholehan 5 месяцев назад

You snuck that upon him, with the mid race bike change to be fair. I reckon if you actually set out from the start, XC pro racer vs Ebike, he would still smoke you. It's the prep, the warmup, the racers mentality etc. They are next level.

@ashpunting 5 месяцев назад

That was the best guys please have a rematch. Rich, I was with you all the way, but Charlie gets paid to go fast, so he had to eliminate the pain on his back

@PVVI2015 5 месяцев назад

That was awesome!!!

@billmccaffrey1977 5 месяцев назад

Great way to push Charlie to his max effort. So Rich, to be fair to budget, just how much did your actual eBike cost? A hell-of-lot more than that Amazon toy bike.

@MethodOverRide 5 месяцев назад

Probably around 5k usd or more I'd guess.

@billmccaffrey1977 5 месяцев назад

So more of a $5K to $10K comparison in bike cost, which makes more sense. I think once you hit the $5-6K cost the gains after that become more marginal for the average rider. Does GCN agree?@@MethodOverRide

@MethodOverRide 5 месяцев назад

@billmccaffrey1977 I think so based on my shopping. I was looking at a Trek Rail and it was about 4600. Entry level Fuel Exe is about 5300 or so. You can go up in the models to get better components, but the average rider and weekend warrior probably doesn't need them. As an aside, I suspect this would end differently with a US spec ebike with the limit set to 20 mph. Bosch and Shimano mid drive systems are known to have a lot of drag once you hit the limiter. I think if either ebike could do 20 mph it would have been much closer, or Charlie may have lost.

@richardpayne5176 5 месяцев назад

Oh way more, it’s a Canyon Strive On and I think there around £6600

@spencerwvcmoon 5 месяцев назад

Amaaazing what a machine that guy is!

@MrJlloyd1993 5 месяцев назад

Llandegla getting so love!!

@Dan_Kornfeld 5 месяцев назад

Charlie can beat Rich with one Lefty Ocho fork stanchion tied behind his back 😜👍‼️

@Darylbarker 5 месяцев назад

Rematch…. Man is a beast 👏

@JB50713 5 месяцев назад

Lol the geometry on the Ebike.

@Casitascrawlers 5 месяцев назад

If I rode a bike like that down some of my favorite trails here in So Cal I’d wind up in the hospital 😂

@hein_mcleod 5 месяцев назад

Do a video where the bikes cost the same (emtb vs xc)

@richardpayne5176 5 месяцев назад

Ooh great shout

@rsmithuk 5 месяцев назад

Knackered just watching!

@Lifebydeath 5 месяцев назад

There’s nothing better then showing up e-bikes on a regular bike😂

@plokmko0 5 месяцев назад

Same price mtb vs emtb !!!

@IntoTheWhite04 5 месяцев назад

Reckon its fait to say you've exhausted all possoble content now.

@nerdfacellc 4 месяца назад

I think this would have been better as a Rich racing Rich. Less staged, more real information. Wattage, speed on the climbs, speed downhill, how far off are they really. I think that would have been really entertaining and also real.

@richardruns4cake 5 месяцев назад

Brilliant

@phenofinder9145 5 месяцев назад

That's the ebikes that exploded while charging! 💥💥🤕

@nathanhancey8619 5 месяцев назад

Haven't you already done this...

@ryantate278 5 месяцев назад

I'd like to see Charlie on a DH against a DH rider

@user-um4xz5do3j 5 месяцев назад

You guys have an emtb channel for this stuff.....

@TheBikeRoom 5 месяцев назад

Let's get the limits on ebikes changed, we need them slower so shops can sell more lightweight XC bikes yeah?

@TheBrokenMountainBiker 5 месяцев назад

The guy is an utter weapon uphill and down! I think you'd need a full power bike with a derestrictor to beat him! Lol. Either that or stage the race somewhere with some disgusting steep climbs that keep the speed below the limiter! Lol

@eartharrow6772 5 месяцев назад

Fix up the cheap bike a bit can you put bigger wheels on it or is the frame and motor not worth it ??

@eartharrow6772 5 месяцев назад

Every bike I've bought I've needed to switch out wheels and tyres, almost immediately

@simonm1447 5 месяцев назад

@@eartharrow6772they also offer a 27,5er version for 100€ more in EU. I don't know if the 26er frame would take a 27,5er wheel, the fork surely does not (but of course the fork will also be a very cheap one)

@mcl40000 5 месяцев назад

Charlie is a monster...

@GEKKO_Archery 5 месяцев назад

Against a cheap E-Bike the Pro always wins, with a road legal Hi-End E-Bike the winner would be the one who chooses the track, an illegal Hi-End E-Bike beats the Pro - as long as the rider has at least enough driving skills to not die on the descends.

@martinhayes5087 5 месяцев назад

The correct bike for riding that crappy trail centre 😂

@paulemillevasseur7622 5 месяцев назад

He won because of the bar he ate!!!

@danielcedolin2034 5 месяцев назад

You would definitely still lose even on a light weight Ebike

@droneboy1562 5 месяцев назад

Get him back and try it on a full powered ehard tail

@renzoeltigre 5 месяцев назад

One more proof that those cheap ebikes are not good. Next challenge get a proper full power ebike and give some head start to see if you can catch up

@simonm1447 5 месяцев назад

To be fair that Myatu costs 780€ in EU, so it's cheaper than a non electric entry level XC bike. The same brand also sells non electric mountainbikes for 280€, you can surely imagine how "good" they will be

@frontierfishingwithryanmac1981 5 месяцев назад

Just say NO to Amazon! 3/4's on the bikes on there would fold in a heartbeat when the untrained individual tries to copycat what you're doing....

@Nigel345 5 месяцев назад

May I just add. I got my Haibike e-bike for £50 on facebook.

@BlueKnows 5 месяцев назад

Do the right thing and hand it in to your nearest police station to get it back to its rightful owner 😂

@MtbPoland 5 месяцев назад

e-ccrap

@MB-pm5fn 4 месяца назад

Meanigless exercise and not even entertaining.

@trevorlewis2971 5 месяцев назад

rich, probably stop being so stuck up, when that bike costs probably as much as 1 wheel from that overpriced xc bike. most people looking at bikes like that are for commuting to work. seriously mate your experiments are a waste of time and money. why not do an experiment like would you rather spend 10,000 on an ebike or under 600 on an ebike to get to work and back. you're missing the point of budget ebikes mate!

@575ban 5 месяцев назад

What a machine Charlie is. Very impressive 👏👏👏 Well done Rich for pushing him that hard, even if you needed an ebike to do it 😜 (I ride an ebike all the time mind 🫣)