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The cheapest, simplest & most popular cassette player mechanism 

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A detailed look at what is probably today's best-selling cassette tape player mechanism. Is it really THAT bad? Let's find out...
Chapters Index:
0:00 Introduction
0:45 Original Tanashin design
1:33 Mahogany Monsters
2:18 Pyle PL5CSUB
3:44 First test
4:47 Fast-forward, but no rewind
6:55 Direct hookup audio samples
8:00 A look inside
9:08 Mechanism design
10:31 Belt & motor
13:23 Mechanism in operation
14:34 Undocumented feature
14:59 Conclusion
16:18 Outro music
This video contains clips from ‪@Recordology‬'s review of the Victrola 8-in-1 system: • The Victrola 8-in-1! R...
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@Max16032
@Max16032 2 года назад
I'm still amazed how we are in a huge cassette revival yet we have the worst options in cassette-playing devices when it comes to brand-new stuff. But not all hope is lost: Vinyl struggled for quite a few years until we finally got decent non-crosley turntables at an affordable price. I really hope we see something like that for the tape world.
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 2 года назад
It's not exactly huge compared to the vinyl revival. And with vinyl it took about 4 to 5 years of steady growth before good new affordable turntables started being introduced.
@sabs1970
@sabs1970 5 месяцев назад
Yeah top HiFi manufacturers just don't seem to be into Making New high quality cassette tape decks maybe they feel this current tend will Not last I think they could be right They be better to re-manufacture high end Quality CD players Not like the crap ! Sold by richer sounds in UK my CD needs are keep going with still very good used market 'Marantz CD players CD 42' 52 ' 62 or CD72 which all run classic reliable cdm4 laser mechanism they still hold great resale value now 30 + years old
@josha254
@josha254 2 месяца назад
Give it a few years
@whogavehimafork
@whogavehimafork 2 месяца назад
Personally I do see cassettes catching on again. People are beginning to realize what they risk losing by forfeiting physical media.
@error52
@error52 2 года назад
My mom's car when I was little had a stereo with that same mechanism in it. The radio played OK, but the cassette never worked while we had the car. When we decided to finally scrap the old pile of rust I pulled the stereo out and managed to get it going. I was surprised at how good it performed. Sadly the car was long gone by then. I still have the stereo, though, in my collection.
@MasticinaAkicta
@MasticinaAkicta 2 года назад
Car stereos hate bumpy movements. It would bump the flywheel and would play havock on the belts.
@VochoTalacha
@VochoTalacha 2 года назад
I laughed when he tested the RCA input feature. The pun was totally intended with the song played from the walkman: "it's the same, but if you're willing to play the game..." hahahaha
@FernieCanto
@FernieCanto 2 года назад
The song he plays after that must be intentional too: "I know it's worth it, I know it's worth it..."
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 2 года назад
The Carly Simon is simply what happened to be playing on the radio at the time. I had no control over it. The lyrics of the L.A. Gear song didn't stand out to me until I heard it again when putting the video together.
@dannymcgrath4640
@dannymcgrath4640 2 года назад
@@vwestlife who sings the song in the tape
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 2 года назад
@@dannymcgrath4640 Which one?
@mertanov
@mertanov 2 года назад
@@vwestlife min 07:00 please, thank you ;)
@UnderEu
@UnderEu 2 года назад
Doesn’t sound bad, to be honest... And the obligatory “Radio Gets Results” jingle is missing but I’m pleased with the Oldsmobile one, too.
@infinitecanadian
@infinitecanadian 2 года назад
The song turned me into an Oldsmobile fan. So sad that they are no longer being made.
@buttguy
@buttguy 2 года назад
Genuine Mabuchi motors also say "Mabuchi" instead of "Mabucai", haha
@DrCassette
@DrCassette 2 года назад
The direct hookup sounds surprisingly good, aside from the wobbly flywheel that mechanism technically is quite acceptable. Still I wouldn't want to use something like this because of the lack of user comfort. No rewind function and relatively slow fast forward would be a constant annoyance for me.
@Aeduo
@Aeduo 2 года назад
Honestly, considering some of the new clunkers techmoan has gotten, this probably is one of the best sounding ones. the operation reminds me a lot of an 8-track. Many of those were dumb simple, just turns on and plays from the tape being shoved in and shuts off when the tape ejects.
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj 2 года назад
Kinda made for the task of being a car player, funny that this specific one is among the most popular for home machines, but I can see why it would be popular in car decks back in the day for the exact reasons you state.
@jkeelsnc
@jkeelsnc 2 года назад
At least it plays in stereo. Some of the cheap boom boxes don’t even do that.
@dualityk
@dualityk 2 года назад
I had an Audiovox car radio with this unit in it in the late 90s (which means it was probably an actual Tanashin) in my first car, a Mk1 Rabbit. Other than the punishment of having to look at its cheap face and its mile long single control button, it didn't actually sound that bad. I'm not surprised it made an acceptable performance here. However, I used to skip songs a lot, and the lack of a second spindle meant the tapes would tension unevenly after a few plays and would start to sound ... "interesting" until they were run end to end to retension them. It later got replaced with the last of the good Panasonic full logic decks, with power load/eject, multiple song skip, silence skip, and some sweet purple VU meters. Sadly, information and photos of that one have been lost to the digital black hole that consumed almost all low-end mainstream consumer products from the early-mid 90s to the early 2000s.
@Kylefassbinderful
@Kylefassbinderful 2 года назад
For my ears it didn't sound too bad. Kinda surprised it has a stereo head.
@ccadam
@ccadam 2 года назад
Some of those cheap mechanisms in the cheapest of car radio/cassette players only had a mono head. The radio was horrible at differentiating stations too. The one that I put in my Dad's truck had horrible wow and flutter plus muddy sound too. I swapped it out for another one. Those were the days when tapes were still the thing and car radio cassette players were common everywhere especially Auto wreckers and not that dear new either especially for the cheap models.
@ACBMemphis
@ACBMemphis 2 года назад
Hopefully, GM had the decency to put a cassette deck with rewind in that Oldsmobile...
@VectraQS
@VectraQS 2 года назад
They used the same unit in the vast majority of their cars, I think it had auto reverse, and three buttons (play backwards, stop/eject, play forwards). Not sure how you activated rewind/fast-forward because I've never seen one of those decks that actually still worked.
@peacearchwa5103
@peacearchwa5103 2 года назад
Car manufacturers took great care to design their factory-equipment cassette decks to withstand the punishing range of temperature, humidity, dust and pollution of the car environment, including times when the car is not in use and the cassette deck faces below-freezing temperatures or very high humidity.
@audvidgeek
@audvidgeek 2 года назад
@@VectraQS My father had one in his Chevy van If you pressed the volume button in, it would reverse the mechanism to play the bottom side of the tape. the >> button was FFWD for the top side, and REW for the bottom side. The
@sunbeam8866
@sunbeam8866 2 года назад
Years ago, an elderly friend had a Delco stereo, with a three-button cassette deck in his '86 Cutlass Ciera. He was having problems playing tapes and asked me to check it out. The cassette transport was actually made in Japan by Matsushita - popularly known here as Panasonic!
@danielalejandroespinahenri7063
@danielalejandroespinahenri7063 2 года назад
Actually sounds really good in comparison with some of those similar cassette players recently featured by techmoan. I wonder if it offers better wow & flutter than some others
@KevinFields777
@KevinFields777 2 года назад
I'd trade off pretty much ALL features if you could get a cassette player that sounds that good for $10-$30!
@analogidc1394
@analogidc1394 2 года назад
Agreed, for a cheap unit it didn't sound too bad on this end.
@ZhiroMinoda
@ZhiroMinoda 2 года назад
was thinking exactly this. Techmoans tanashin showings have sounded terrible so far. these mechanisms might have been somewhat tuned up
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 2 года назад
probably has, i have 2 'fake vintage' radios with these sort of mechanisms but theyre awful and screw tapes up after a few plays, they were made in the early 90s so 'maybe' theyve since improved them....a little!
@bobby666666
@bobby666666 2 года назад
I agree on the line inputs it sounded quite decent.
@fsfs555
@fsfs555 2 года назад
Is this mech the worst thing ever? Eh, not necessarily; there's worse stuff, especially things spec'd down with mono heads or cheaper motors (those that don't even try to copy good name-brand motors).. Is it something you'd actually want to use? Not really, no. They're using a CW motor here mostly to have a more compact mechanism: notice the motor is on the same plane as the bulk of the mech, not hanging from the other side as with CCW motors used in larger home or boombox-style models. This really helps get these mechs into tight spaces and is a pretty common tactic for other compact mechs (especially automotive types).
@F40PH-2CAT
@F40PH-2CAT 2 года назад
That FF only mechanism reminds me of the cheap drug store walkmans in the 80s and 90s (Yorx, GPX, Unisef, Soundesign, Emerson).
@DoubleMonoLR
@DoubleMonoLR 2 года назад
Even those sounded better than the modern equivalent though. I had a 'Bush' model and barely noticed the difference when I changed to a cheap Sony model.
@collectingonthecheap56353
@collectingonthecheap56353 2 года назад
My 80s GPX had rewind and fast forward, although I did opt to pay the $5 more for it.
@the_rubbish_bin
@the_rubbish_bin 2 года назад
"There is a special feel" LoL I have one of those Oldsmobile tapes too. Makes for good comparison when I play it on one of my decks. Thanks for playing the whole jingle!
@polaris911
@polaris911 2 года назад
would be interesting to hear a side-by-side comparison of the line output vs. a proper tape deck
@MacPhantom
@MacPhantom 2 года назад
I really had to laugh at "Mabucai"! That said, it does sound better than other knockoffs with more features, possibly because it has a bit of metal in the flywheel. It's still not good of course (you mentioned the untrue behaviour of it).
@ozmond
@ozmond 2 года назад
I honestly really like the way this is designed id use one as a cheap noise maker in a shed or barn with a stack of old cassettes from good will
@johnDingoFoxVelocity
@johnDingoFoxVelocity 2 года назад
Not bad on the tape player I never thought this would sound good
@emancaindec9731
@emancaindec9731 2 года назад
yeah. its surprisingly good!
@ChristianKoehler77
@ChristianKoehler77 2 года назад
The simple fast forward (just pull head and pinch roller away from the tape) was also used in many cheap personal stereos in the 80s. These did not have rewind as well.
@markianclark9645
@markianclark9645 Год назад
Bit late to this video...but I smiled when you mentioned cheap personal stereos...pocket cassette players or Walkman ripoffs...no rewind...my first one was so cheap and nasty it didn't even have a freewheeling 6 notch tape engage...it only had a solid plastic post...but I didn't keep it long...obviously
@NanoBurger
@NanoBurger 2 года назад
6:46 Industry professionals agree that two-thirds of cheap tape mechanisms should never have taken place.
@TheBasementChannel
@TheBasementChannel 2 года назад
The key change in the Oldsmobile song got me right in the feels
@TheBuggyGal
@TheBuggyGal 2 года назад
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@patricknedz
@patricknedz 2 года назад
My old car had a nice cassette deck with Dolby B noise reduction and would play chrome and metal tapes Chrystal clear, auto reverse and digital controls.
@DoubleMonoLR
@DoubleMonoLR 2 года назад
There were a lot of very good cassette decks for cars in the past, as it was the only real option for a long time. Everyone loved the Alpine stereos with pale green lights back then.
@fluis943
@fluis943 2 года назад
This is great! I'm restoring a 86 camry. I have been looking for replacement parts for the cassette player. Hopefully I can get the parts I need to fix it using one of these.
@Kalvinjj
@Kalvinjj 2 года назад
To begin with it already starts above expectations from being stereo, and to top it off, no bizarre high wow and flutter that you can perceive on music you're hearing for the 1st time, so definitely a winner.
@billp7748
@billp7748 2 года назад
“Something that approximates music”! Lol! Great video again Kevin!
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 2 года назад
"Mahogany Monsters" is a good name for a band.
@kbhasi
@kbhasi 2 года назад
Your comment reminds me of how I once came across an Instructables tutorial titled along the lines of "Build a Birch and Mahogany Home Theatre PC", and I imagined a luxury brand called "Birch & Mahogany" as a result of misinterpreting the title.
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 2 года назад
@@kbhasi Well, "Birch & Mahogany" DOES sound like a great name for a "high end" furniture store! 👍😊👍
@GalileoAV
@GalileoAV 2 года назад
1:41 My grandmother used to own that Victrola record player, the tape player is exactly as you described. Was very surprised to see something I randomly know about get covered here lmao
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 2 года назад
You have earned the next 17 minutes of my time.
@bricethompson1922
@bricethompson1922 2 года назад
He always does
@ChristopherSobieniak
@ChristopherSobieniak 2 года назад
@@bricethompson1922 Sad though to learn how crappy these things have gotten.
@snugglebunnyhaven7258
@snugglebunnyhaven7258 2 года назад
When I was little those mechanisms were fascinating to me. I had my share of cassette recorders, decks and players. I also had some cheaper car stereos I setup for my own personal use. The old Kraco am fm cassette car stereos actually had an all metal tape mechanism with brass motor pulley and the flywheel was all aluminum. Also had a secondary V belt to drive the takeup/ffwd instead of all gears. I have seen some with flat belts. Always drives me crazy when I see those V belt mechanisms with the belts twisted. I'd always put them back on track in line from V to V.
@randybutcher5713
@randybutcher5713 Год назад
There was a special feel in my fathers '77 oldsmobile cuz we had one of these cassette players mounted under the dash! Good times.
@Claro1993
@Claro1993 2 года назад
Reminds me of a simple 8-track player mechanism minus the track selector.
@ConsumerDV
@ConsumerDV 2 года назад
Faux-1930s cabinets are to adjust the expectations of a customer. If this machine looked like, oh, let's say, TEAC W-1200, then the customer would expect its performance to match the looks: to have wide and flat frequency response, low noise, low wow & flutter, noise reduction, and all other goodies like song search, programmable playlist, auto-calibration, etc. But a machine that looks like it came from 1930s telegraphs, "I am just a crappy sound box from the era when talkies were invented, do not expect much of me". Smart on the manufacturer, but so sad.
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 2 года назад
The funny thing is old-school radios actually tend to sound much better than the general public expects.
@TheChipmunk2008
@TheChipmunk2008 2 года назад
@@eDoc2020 Yes, the bass response especially is usually very good from the larger speakers with slightly heavier cones
@AaronOfMpls
@AaronOfMpls 2 года назад
@@eDoc2020 Indeed, I have a 50s tube radio that belonged to my grandparents. Other than a slight hum from aging components, it sounds pretty good for a mono AM/FM radio.
@audvidgeek
@audvidgeek 2 года назад
@@eDoc2020 YES! it's amazing how nice a cheap "all American five" radio sounds and pulls in stations, compared to a modern AM radio!
@rexjolles
@rexjolles 2 года назад
@@eDoc2020 yeah I got a shitass Arvin am radio from the 50's (there's hardly any am music stations anymore) but the news and the Spanish music come in very well
@phyein4815
@phyein4815 2 года назад
My life is now complete, hearing that Oldsmobile complimentary jingle
@santioriginal
@santioriginal 2 года назад
With all the research you've done and your network of people you know with specific - almost lost - knowledge, I think you have the right ingredients to develop the right cassette deck. Teac would do well to approach you as an advisor!
@wotizit2937
@wotizit2937 2 года назад
I concur.
@worldcomicsreview354
@worldcomicsreview354 2 года назад
Teac actually make one of those all-in-ones themselves. Same crappy record player, but the tape deck is up on top with the turntable and has full transport controls. With just a bit more effort (it's not like there's a shortage of better record player mechanisms out there, Teac probably make some themselves!) you could have an all-in-one that's actually worth getting!
@mauritsvw
@mauritsvw 2 года назад
Even more popular than those manual cassette rewinders was of course the Bic pen.
@mxbunnycatter
@mxbunnycatter 2 года назад
I'm positively impressed by it. I always assumed that these things would sound horrible, because of the corners cut; but it's kind of neat. Also; I really love these promotional car cassette tapes
@vincentliew9763
@vincentliew9763 2 года назад
Reminds me of old bed headboard which has a cassette player, crappy but good old days.
@guessundheit6494
@guessundheit6494 2 года назад
0:25 - And 1980s alarm clocks. It ate a tape immediately and I never used it again. 15:55 - How about a walkman sized box with RCA in/out but without those crap speakers?
@pcallas66
@pcallas66 2 года назад
It sounds great through the line output and even the built in speakers are coming through just fine.
@Markimark151
@Markimark151 2 года назад
Those cassette mechanisms are quite fine with these all-in-one retro audio systems. There was also a mini jukebox cassette player that used that mechanism.
@milfordcivic6755
@milfordcivic6755 2 года назад
Pyle is a pretty good name for anything they make.
@domlimited1264
@domlimited1264 2 года назад
the line out on the player has a good amount of treble and bass I'd even buy something like that
@efficiencygaming3494
@efficiencygaming3494 2 года назад
Another great video! I've always been fascinated with this contemporary cassette player mechanism because it works fairly well for how oversimplified it is. It's fool-proof, too. Just put the cassette in and it starts playing immediately. Sure, you could make them a lot better, but I can understand why manufacturers go with this mechanism over anything else. It's honestly pretty cool.
@JohnAudioTech
@JohnAudioTech 2 года назад
The MABUCAI part (note spelling and similar logo to MABUCHI) is a common trick some Chinese companies use to trick people into thinking they are buying an authentic part.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 2 года назад
The logo is identical and the spelling is... well i have a pair of in-ears, actually pretty good ones, from a Chinese company which actually takes acoustic engineering seriously, where they misspelled "Dynamic" as "Dyuamic" on the shell (they fixed that in later revisions) and the QA tag has "Inspestion" on it instead of "Inspection" (still does, and that across several nominally unrelated brands, though sharing the same group of suppliers and packaging facility). You might not think so, but for people less familiar with the script, getting the right letters together is HARD, and single letter substitutions are usually not intentional! Like they aren't about to have any consequences from selling a counterfeit Mabuchi branded motor, and if there were any, they aren't going to get avoided by misspelling, it's just incompetence is all.
@circuitblog01
@circuitblog01 2 года назад
First of all great video as usual, and in fact, this video took me back to the nineties when car tape player containing this mechanic were very common, and the selling price was from 6 dollars to 9 dollars according to the features. I have some notes on some of the information that you mentioned and I will discuss it in an upcoming video on my channel.
@dowjones5981
@dowjones5981 2 года назад
The one song that says "I know its worth it, I get a sweet satisfaction" Thanks!
@paulb4uk
@paulb4uk 2 года назад
1 person used one of these wood monsterse to do a video on cassettes on RU-vid then declared cassettes sound terrible ,needless to say his video has more dislikes. Than likes. These things are terrible.
@danielkalilalvesdonascimen3113
@danielkalilalvesdonascimen3113 2 года назад
At 11:27 you can literaly see that is a false Mabuchi motor because instead they write "Mabuchi" in the paper, they wrote "Mabucai"
@mephitusincognito7918
@mephitusincognito7918 2 года назад
this thing sounds surprisingly good with the direct hookup.... now if they would just make a box like this without the speakers, just the tape and line out, we might have a winner of a product... ...i seriously did not expect that to sound so good...
@danandkiko
@danandkiko 2 года назад
My dad helped me build a small car system that I used in my room. It was just 2 cheap 6x9 speakers with a Realistic car cassette player running off a car battery. It wasn't much, but I'll always remember loving using it.
@jackschissler255
@jackschissler255 2 года назад
My 1990 Pontiac Sunbird came with a Pontiac cassette. It had the “Get on your Pontiac and ride” gingle that they used in the commercials plus it explains some of the features of the car. I always love how the GM Delco electronic tape decks from the 80’s had you insert the tape head first in.
@couldntmixapotnoodle
@couldntmixapotnoodle 2 года назад
That's quite neat. It's really tidy in that thing. If somebody made quality ones I'd buy one.
@ticn
@ticn 2 года назад
this is actually quality for the price and performance
@dashcamandy2242
@dashcamandy2242 2 года назад
5:25 - My '94 Cavalier didn't have "attack" seat belts, neither did Mom's '97... But my '95 Escort did. And in a matter of a month I replaced the seat belt track/motor combo twice before I manually cranked it into its proper position and unplugged the motor harness. 11:54 - Hey, I have that song on Cassingle! It includes an interesting alternate version that has a children's choir singing "Itsy Bitsy Spider" in the middle of the song. 16:10 - **bobbing head** "Duck Tales, whoo-ooo..." Wait, that's not the song! I don't know if you noticed this while filming, but the rear end of the mech needs some support - it wiggles noticeably every time you insert a tape or operate the FF/Eject rod.
@BessieBopOrBach
@BessieBopOrBach 2 года назад
Another testament to the incredible resilience and performance of the humble cassette "cartridge." That Realistic hand rewinder was a wonderful blast from the past -- I wondered whether I would ever see one of those again!
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 2 года назад
i picked up a tandy/realistic battery powered rewinder a few years back 😉
@vaughntonkin539
@vaughntonkin539 2 года назад
@@andygozzo72 I have 2 of those, they need belts
@vaughntonkin539
@vaughntonkin539 2 года назад
had one in 83, I messed it up a bit with engine oil, don't have it anymore, may have been sold in a Trash & Treasure car boot sale many years back
@CrowTRobot-ni7zu
@CrowTRobot-ni7zu 8 месяцев назад
I love how when you put the tape in at the beginning, we heard “In the Mood.” I also have a cassette that opens with that piece.
@douglasallen9428
@douglasallen9428 2 года назад
Honestly, I really wish that someone would use one of these slot loading cassette players in a portable unit….
@audubon5425
@audubon5425 2 года назад
I had a Lasonic boom box that had one full-featured mechanical cassette and one of these featured here. Even new, you could hear the sound quality difference - the side-insert portion never got used.
@CommodoreFan64
@CommodoreFan64 2 года назад
I honestly thought this would be 100% junk, but I'm surprised it sounds 1/2 decent via the line out.
@waukee321
@waukee321 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for the post. Reminds me of the golden era of the cassette deck, the 1980s. That was the era when home units offered the best quality money could buy for recording and playing your cassettes. Home unit sets offered 3 motor transport design, motorized automatic tape head engagement, multiple noise reduction systems like Dolby B, C, S, HX pro and the special encoded dbx circuitry. Some units even had glass heads, closed loop capstans, fancy auto-reverse. I think with this revival though another factor was forgotten and that is the maintenance and cleaning that is absolutely necessary when playing cassettes, and demagnetizing the heads. It is important then for the deck to allow ease of access to the heads and capstan, and pinch roller to clean them as tape oxides build up on them creating high risks of tapes being eaten and lower sound quality output. This type of mechanism shown is difficult to access the heads and the pinch roller/capstan as they are recessed deep inside the unit. Cassette cleaning tapes that were marketed never really cleaned them adequately enough. As you mentioned it's funny this unjt only has a play and fast forward mechanism which is actually similar to the 8 track which only traveled in a forward play direction and some offered fast forward as well (no rewind)
@MartenvanKammenVisser
@MartenvanKammenVisser 6 месяцев назад
Here in Spain, Germany and the UK these kind of cassette players are used in brands as Crosley, AUNA, etc. Brands that offer good quality for a reasonable price. I really like your channel. Keep it going... Seeing the motor used in the cassette player, they come from Skywin, as you clearly told in your video that the same motors are used in record players coming from China. I have an AUNA all-in-one stereo system with DAB+ which sounds great, no problem. Including the double cassette deck is fine (sometimes the internet router disturbs on playing the tapes, because it's really close). The Skywin record player is good enough, though it sounds a bit "light", but what do you want? Can't have it all perfect.
@johnstone7697
@johnstone7697 2 года назад
Given that wobbly "flywheel", it suggests really loose quality control standards in this mechanism. It would be interesting to know the actual specifications for the transport, e.g., at what wow and flutter limit does the transport get rejected? I'd lay odds, it's high.....really high. And even if one sample doesn't sound "terrible" it doesn't mean the next one won't. The lack of a supply hub doesn't help matters, as this means the tape is being dragged through the shell with the additional friction from the unsupported supply reel. Anyone of us who experienced the rise of the cassette format from the early portables (I had one of the very first Philips recorders), through the era of metal tape, HX Pro, Dolby B, C, S, etc. can only look at this piece of junk and sigh. Once digital audio displaced these mechanical formats, it seems that the knowledge and manufacturing expertise required for making a quality mechanical tape transport was lost for good. After listening almost exclusively to digital files for years now, I can't tolerate wow and flutter at just about any level above about .1% I even hear it on decent quality turntables, and it wouldn't surprise me if some of what I hear comes right from the original master tape.
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 2 года назад
the missing feed spindle wont make much difference, if at all, its the take up tension thats important, if thats unstable and varying, it will sound horrid
@p0k314COM
@p0k314COM 2 года назад
What "quality control"?
@joaoacast
@joaoacast 2 года назад
Thanks for the great review! My best regards from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
@zuffin1864
@zuffin1864 8 месяцев назад
Vwestlife, i don't know if you intend to have some amazing dry humor, but i started cracking up when you placed the "Oldsmobile" card down at 4:05 🤣
@driveined
@driveined 2 года назад
As an Oldsmobile fan, I have that Oldsmobile promotional cassette. My ears really perked up when I heard, "there is a special feel in an Oldsmobile!"
@macktheinterloper
@macktheinterloper 2 года назад
Not as bad as I thought it would be. I mean, it's nothing to be proud of and I wouldn't dare put any of my surviving metal tapes into one of these, but still, I expected worse.
@hattree
@hattree 2 года назад
I think that's the first time I've seen one of those tape decks that worked. They are always the first component to go in those all in one systems.
@G.B...
@G.B... 2 года назад
I expected Wow & Flutter measurements to be included in the video (Kevin usually does that with special software in his reviews). But of course that would be overkill for such a cheap device, plus we can easily guess what the results would be.
@audvidgeek
@audvidgeek 2 года назад
This was the common mechanism sold in low-end car stereos, like Sparkomatic, Kraco, etc. I remember seeing car radios for $29.95 at K-mart, and auto parts shops with that mechanism. Tanashen also made a fancier auto-reverse mechanism that found it's way into pretty much every mid-grade car stereo with name-brands, from Alpine to Audiovox, Sony, JVC, Pioneer, etc and even in come factory decks, like Honda's. It's easy to tell it by the button arrangement. Eject on the left, and a pair of fast-wind buttons on the right, of the tape opening, that when you push them together, the deck reverses. By the early 90's it was almost impossible to find a car stereo deck that did NOT have a Tanashen mechanism in it!
@TrackZero
@TrackZero 2 года назад
Great review as always! Also now I want an Oldsmobile.
@pastedtomato
@pastedtomato 2 года назад
Sounds a lot better than expected, not bad at all.
@Hammer0165
@Hammer0165 2 года назад
Bloody hell, that Oldsmobile tape brought me back to my first car. Bought it way too cheap, an old American car in Europe. It could only go wrong and it did. The engine blew up within a 1000 miles, despite the reputation of the old Buick 3.8 V6. But it had the cassette in the glove compartment and I listened to it. Never thought I'd hear it again. Rest in peace, 1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera.
@cadenswain158
@cadenswain158 2 года назад
honestly this mechanism seems to have a better quality sound than the other style of mech.
@rizzlerazzleuno4733
@rizzlerazzleuno4733 2 года назад
Love the manual tape rewinder. Never saw one of those. I just stuck a ballpoint pen on one side and twirled the cassette around like a kids noise maker. Loads of good exercise. Worked until the tape flew off the pen and sailed across the room or into the lake.
@zsombor_99
@zsombor_99 2 года назад
Wow, actually it sounds pretty normal, and it's stereo as well. 👍 If it works, why it should be more complex than literally a car radio, right? 😉
@I967
@I967 2 года назад
If you told people in the 1980s that in the future, cassette decks will be downgraded to 8-track functionality, they would give you funny looks.
@solinus7131
@solinus7131 2 года назад
They probably already have cassette players that have 8 track functionality (perhaps in cheaper cars)
@750kv8
@750kv8 2 года назад
Cheaper walkman tape decks did have only play and fast forward functions. Some car stereo decks had rewind function too, but they were still operated by a single button (slide left / right for rew / ff; push to eject). I think that one was great. It was nothing unusual.
@xaenon
@xaenon 2 года назад
@@750kv8 For a nunber of years, my 'car stereo' was the stock AM radio modded with a 1/8" stereo jack (wired for mono) that I connected my walkmans to. Had a simple AM/FM Walkman, replaced it with an AM/FM-cassette. I sold the car before I got my CD walkman, but it would have worked, too. Why? I worked a job that was located in a pretty shady section of town. A stock AM radio isn't worth prying out of the dash. People would see you had nothing they wanted and would move on.
@enricoself2256
@enricoself2256 2 года назад
That tape mechanism is the equivalent of the Stero-8 cartridge average car player. Just pop in the cassette and it plays; compared to stereo 8 there the is "fast" forward though ...
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 2 года назад
i have a 'house' 8 track player/recorder machine that has fast forward, speeds the motor up like the clappers, and has electric auto stop (bit hit and miss when on fast forward, though, play is ok 😁)
@noelj62
@noelj62 2 года назад
Clockwise or counter CW is determined by the position of the motor in regards to the main flywheel. All those mechanisms that have CCW motor also have the motor bottom facing back. Regarding the amplifier, from the look of the U shaped heatsink, I think it's the trusty TEA2025 or UTC2025 that all chinese cheap boomboxes used in the 90s.
@RealEpikCartfrenYT
@RealEpikCartfrenYT 2 года назад
Yeah, the letter f in the model number of the motor EG-530AD-2F means front. If it was facing back then it would be an EG-530AD-2B
@TOLUIA
@TOLUIA 2 года назад
I love your videos, and I myself have gotten into collecting cassettes again.
@olik136
@olik136 2 года назад
I am collecting since I bought a VW bus with a tape deck in it.. but I have a hard time finding good music on tape- the vast majority of stuff on ebay is children's plays or folk music... and if you try getting something popular like a David Bowie album... suddenly a stupid cassette is a 100 bugs...
@richardbates2367
@richardbates2367 2 года назад
@@olik136 try your luck with mecari they are almost always selling lots of country and rock, heavy metal cassette tapes and some look like they were hardly even touched..
@thevacdude
@thevacdude 2 года назад
Thanks for the video, Kevin.
@VisualTorrent
@VisualTorrent 2 года назад
That Oldsmobile song slapped ngl
@Peter_Yachymczyk
@Peter_Yachymczyk 2 года назад
Neat never knew what the internals of that infamous deck looked like! Can you do a video on the CD part? Mine looks like a cluster of Chinese eBay modules just wired together in a big monstrosity of a box! I was given an ElectroBrand 5 in one (Radio/CD/Cassette/Phono/Aux) and it has the same cassette mechanism on the right side with the tell-tale AutoStop and the 4 screws. I like how easy the belt is to get at! I wish it was that easy for the higher end home decks as well point in I had a Sony TC-WR975 (one step behind their ES model at that time) and I tried (and failed) to change the belts I ended up with "extra" parts and it was totally no workie now not just the auto-reverse backwards play, I did love the motorized open/close button vs the standard mechanical eject button that most others have.
@certifiedbruh2180
@certifiedbruh2180 2 года назад
This player is already making people view cassettes as pointless. A while back, some bloke did a video where he played a cassette on this player, heard it skip around and then determined that the cassette comeback is pointless.
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 2 года назад
I know I was jaggin on some of my comments, But Hell, It actually sounded reasonable! I use a first gen Walkman Professional to digitize cassettes. I paid $25 for it in 2000 (Don't look them up NOW😲, as a motorcycle would get you MORE mileage for LESS money😳! ) But really the modern cheap tape mechanisms SEEM to beat the modern cheap "vinyl" record players. NOW is the time for the "average Joe" to get a cassette player and digitize their tapes.
@Mishkafofer
@Mishkafofer 2 года назад
Digitize what? Nsync and Blink 182 cassetes?
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 2 года назад
@@Mishkafofer I digitize personal tapes for people. You do realize that tapes were used to record more than pop music, right? People used cassette tape from the 1960s into the early 2000s to record events,life stories,kid's first words, maybe grandma's last words. Not every cassette user was a 12 year old recording crappy top 40 tunes off of the radio...
@vaughntonkin539
@vaughntonkin539 2 года назад
@@jamesslick4790 I did that when I was 12, a mono Audiosonic radio tape-recorder on AM
@AstonGryffynn
@AstonGryffynn 2 года назад
You really need to share the songs in these videos. They are amazing, and those cassette players don’t sound so lacklustre for their simplicity.
@rarbiart
@rarbiart 2 года назад
VWestlife is really flexing on us, presenting this audiophile-horror in broad daylight in close up shots. Thank you for the nightmares!
@arthurvasey
@arthurvasey 9 месяцев назад
I’ve got something like that what my sister got me out of the Betterware catalogue - it’s identical in every way except for the fact that it only has one speaker and not two - especially designed for digitising cassettes - but I think I can connect other devices to it!
@gaiuscoleman8815
@gaiuscoleman8815 2 года назад
I appreciate the warning you're giving here about cassette player quality on these low-end machines, yet are a good price. I've been toying with the idea of getting myself one and, later, for my brother, who doesn't have a music centre at all and he could be doing with one. However, you then delve into the mechanics and show WHY they're not very good, but don't offer any advice on what else a prospective purchaser SHOULD buy, even if a few hundred pounds/dollars dearer. I used to have a pretty good all-in-one system with fabulous speakers about 30 years ago, with twin cassette players. I remember in the 70s, my parents bought a GEC all-in-one system and it lasted for decades. However, those who wanted QUALITY, had 'separates' housed in a free-standing unit which you just added to as finances allowed. It's really tricky, NOW, to know what to buy, without taking a hefty loan out to buy a really decent system. Any advice here, for the UK market, would be invaluable, please.
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 2 года назад
See my video "Cassette decks for dummies".
@blautens
@blautens 2 года назад
My first introduction to Mabuchi motors was with Tamiya radio control cars in the 80s - they'd come with a Mabuchi RS540 as the "high performance" option or an RS380 as the standard. The first thing you'd do is save up $50 to get a Trinity or some other US based performance motor, yank the Mabuchi and toss it in the bin as a last resort spare. Oh, the many motors I collected, maintained, rebuilt. You'd have so many (with different windings for different performance profiles) they made motor trays to hold them, along with your spare brushes, commutators, etc.- but Mabuchis never made the tray. They were bottom of the barrel, left in the spares drawer at best (I had so many I just tossed them). Fast forward to the audio context of 2021- Mabuchi is highly sought after. How times have changed.
@kenzingzong6704
@kenzingzong6704 2 года назад
The speakers are ok, no literally OK lmao
@nickbitten6037
@nickbitten6037 2 года назад
Very interesting video. As well as " decent" cassette decks, i also have a slot loading unit i picked up on a whim at a charity shop. It is not as c****y as i feared, but i would let any of my best tapes be played on it. However, glad your videos are helping to keep tapes in the public eye.
@nickbitten6037
@nickbitten6037 2 года назад
P.S- i meant to say i would not let my best tapes be played on it
@brianandrews7099
@brianandrews7099 2 года назад
I still don’t understand why anyone would want to go back to cassette tapes, other than the occasional “trip down memory lane”. If I had all the time I spent in my youth (1980s) waiting for cassettes to FF or Rewind to get to songs I wanted to hear added back to the end of my life, I would probably live a month or two longer! I am sure, like everything else, these tape players come from the factory with absolute minimal fine adjusting and lubrication, so their less then stellar performance only gets worse over time, use, and wear. Like most other low to medium cost consumer machines, I am sure that a majority of them that go to the landfill because of “tape eating” and play speed issues could easily be brought back to life with a good cleaning, oiling, and general service. Interesting video!
@isaacandersen1
@isaacandersen1 2 года назад
My grandparents have one of these from the 2000s, when I was little I thought it was really old, despite it having a cd player in it.
@grimreboot
@grimreboot 2 года назад
Thanks for the video! :)
@justapeasant8949
@justapeasant8949 2 года назад
Plus, the sticker reads: mabucai. Not Mabuchi. It's one of those Chinese trick to avoid potential lawsuit. Like Nite (Look like Nike on glancing look) on brand sneakers and so forth...
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 2 года назад
It's not a "Chinese trick" here, it's a misspelling. They happen a lot, even on genuine honest Chinese parts and devices, when they have to write anything at all in Latin script. The counterfeiters aren't afraid of any lawsuit on their home turf, and where one might happen, the misspelling won't hold it back if all the other attributes that one might reasonably expect (logo, designation etc) match.
@peacearchwa5103
@peacearchwa5103 2 года назад
Three thoughts: first, I'd never seen a Cassette Tape Hand Winder before. Neat idea! Second, if made with decent quality control this could be hugely popular for retailers as novelty Christmas gifts. Retailers call this "Amplified Gifting", products only carried during Christmas shopping season. How about a fashionable-looking Target Heyday replica of this Pyle unit? Third, how do you clean the tape heads, capstan and pinch roller on these units? Nice video and many thanks!
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 2 года назад
They do sell cleaning cassettes with felt pads that you put a few drops of alcohol on and then it rubs them against the head and capstan/pinch roller when you play it. Of course manual cleaning is best, but a cleaning cassette is much easier for players like these where the mechanism is not easily accessible without taking it apart.
@KanawhaCountyWX
@KanawhaCountyWX 2 года назад
While I'm thinking about Oldsmobiles and cassettes, my mother's friend has a 1996 Oldsmobile Sierra, it was after they dropped the Cutlass nameplate. It actually has a decent cassette player in it, although surprisingly even though it has mechanically actuated rewind and fast forward it does have auto reverse with a spinning head, which I've always thought was a stupid way to do auto reverse in cars.
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 2 года назад
Ciera, not Sierra -- that's a GMC Truck name. Although I wonder why GM chose two names which are spelled differently but are pronounced the same!
@KanawhaCountyWX
@KanawhaCountyWX 2 года назад
@@vwestlife blame dictation.
@peacearchwa5103
@peacearchwa5103 2 года назад
Featured in the legendary murder mystery film "Fargo"! Also known as Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera. I recall William Shatner appeared in several TV commercials for the Cutlass Ciera with the tag line, "This is NOT your father's Oldsmobile".
@KanawhaCountyWX
@KanawhaCountyWX 2 года назад
@@peacearchwa5103 The funny thing is that in addition to my mother's friend owning a 96 model, my parents used to own an 88 model they got for $800.
@richardbates2367
@richardbates2367 2 года назад
I had a 85 Oldsmobile Cutlass supreme brougham practically loaded with options and it even just got the Delco gm am/fm Auto reverse etr cassette tape player.. not bad and most of the time the tape player worked and sounded fine, but the best feature that probably almost never had any issues was the fm stereo and the clock..
@TheSquaredM
@TheSquaredM 2 года назад
Thank you for your review of this product.
@rainboworange
@rainboworange 2 года назад
I like the simplicity. It's a thing only used rarely, so the very basic functionality is enough. And I actually like it not doing the loud *ker-CHUNK* some players do when the tape ends. That won't wake up your kids that listen to children's stories on old tapes to fall asleep...
@dennisthebrony2022
@dennisthebrony2022 10 месяцев назад
I would just get a fully-featured vintage cassette deck with soft-touch controls and Music Search over one of these with the comeback of cassette tapes, since those decks have better sound quality than the cheap ones, and they obviously have the capability of recording, since I also create mixtapes from my computer, plugged into the line input of the cassette deck using a 3.5mm to RCA Stereo Audio converter cable. I STILL prefer having the HIGH-TECH convenience and superior sound quality combined with the nostalgic sound of cassettes compared to a CRAPPY SOUNDING TAPE PLAYER with EXCESSIVE WOW AND FLUTTER that will make the music experience UNBEARABLE. Little WOW AND FLUTTER and HISS is enough for me to enjoy the sound of Cassette Tapes over excessive WOW AND FLUTTER and hiss. I still love having a bit of WOW AND FLUTTER and HISS over none at all, since those are nostalgic sounds for me. I know you are more enthusiastic about new cassette decks than most other cassette enthusiasts out there, but as for me, when that old high-end tape deck no longer works or is unrepairable, I just get rid of it and buy ANOTHER ONE THAT WORKS at a cheap price at a local thrift store with the same high-tech features and sound quality. And as for Cheap turntables, they sound fine to me since I do own a Crosley Cruiser, but to make a cheap turntable sound better, get a Diamond Stylus, and plug it through the RCA output onto stereo speakers to get the best sound quality possible without motor noise.
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