just a quick video sharing my experience with the phone. how it's like using the phone outside of China (in singapore), whether genshin is able to run at higher resolution or not, etc. the wallpaper i used can be found here: / 1
March 27th update on Singpass: The latest version of the app update fixed the log in issue entirely and it is now working without issue. March 8th update: tried to reset Singpass to try whether i could repeat the log in process, or maybe it would help with the signing certificate issue. back to getting the same 83-T991 error. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ so just take it as not working still. Feb 20th update: tried to log in to Singpaas again and was able to log in. But it threw up an error regarding the "signing certificate". following the prompt in the app to "apply" for the certificate shows an error. No idea what that is exactly... But the app seems to work for now. Was able to use it to sign in to other gov services as per usual... Will update again if things changes.
@@hairulnizmo7384 unfortunately not. on top of that, i decided to reset the app to try if i can repeat the log in process, and the same error 83-T991 came back. so looks like being able to log in the other time might have been a glitch.
It kinda depends if any of the things I've mentioned in the video are deal breakers for you. even then, there might be apps that you need that might not play nice with OS since the phone is china only now. For me, I'm still using this as my main phone now since I don't mind not having things like google location history, Android auto, etc. It does what I need and i like the amount of performance it offers for the price. But that said, it's not a phone I will recommend to just about anyone since different folks need different apps, and some apps might not work properly. So if you haven't used China-bases HyperOS before, it's going to be a gamble. 😅
thanks! unfortunately I don't use neflilx or amazon prime so not sure about that. I know it has widevine l1 support, but then not sure if the phone model needs to be whitelisted by those services or not.
I'm not sure about it actually. there is a chance it might not even be available globally. if i recall, the K60 Pro never got a global release. Only the K60 was rebranded as Poco F5 Pro. But it would be nice if it got a global release.
how is its main camera compared to the K60 Pro? how about compared to a Xiaomi 13? I'm buying one for a family member and they seem to like the photos coming from teh X13 so I was wondering if its photos and videos are any good? Thanks
I'm not sure about the K60 Pro, but I've used the Poco F5 Pro, which is like the K60, and the K70 Pro has better camera performance for sure. not just hardware, but also the image processing looks noticeably better to me. against the Xiaomi 13 i still slightly prefer the more natural image processing from the leica authentic mode, but the k70 pro is not too bad too in its own way (a bit more saturation and sharpening which some may prefer), and shots at night i think are comparable. but the telephoto camera is more usable and fun to shoot with on the 13 for sure. video seems slightly better on the 13 to me as well with slightly less twitchy looking stabilisation. my guess is better OIS hardware since they likely want to cut some cost on the K series device.
@@axhng Thank you for the very detailed reply. I appreciate it, very insightful. At the same price point, are there other phones you would recommend instead of the K70 Pro? Preferably one with better cameras? But still has an 8 gen 3 or an equivalent SoC
i haven't tested the 13T Pro before, but i think it's not as good as the regular Xiaomi 13. but only slightly. aside from gaming, heavy camera usage, or outdoor high brightness usage, the phone doesn't really heat up much. it's noticeably better than the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 devices I've tried so far.
Hi, can you tell me since it hasn't been released globally yet if it's missing something on the software side, network language or similar stuff? Thank you very much.
hmm. the most obvious things I can see would be the google stuff. like it won't have Android auto, nearbyshare, google location history. network wise, you'll probably have to check the support bands anyway to make since even global phones might have varying bands that they support or don't, especially if you're using 5G plan. 4G should be pretty safe though. system language wise, not sure if it's missing any, but it does have english at least which I can switch to during first boot.
There is a good chance that this model wouldnt be available outside of China at all since the K60 Pro was the same. For now can only see what Xiaomi plans to do with the Poco F6 series.
Question can this phone download any Google apps like chrome or email and also google play, plus does it work on games that needs to use google account to log in?😅
I don't play any games that uses google account to log in, but my guess is that it shouldn't be an issue since even the China version of HyperOS has basic google services as mentioned. i can sign in to my google account to sync contacts, calendar too. i'm using apps like gmail, google keep, books, youtube, drive, docs, maps on the phone and they can use the same google account sign in just like any regular android phone. play store can be installed from the built in app store like shown in the video, and after that can install apps from the play store as usual.
It kinda depends on where you live. In general, just get from a reputable importer or online shopping platforms so that at least you have some recourse if the phone has issues out of the box. Some better seller might even offer their own warranty, but just have to keep in mind to not count on that too much since it will be completely up to their discretion. For me in Singapore, shopping platforms like shopee and Lazada is usually the first place I'll look at since if there's anything wrong with the phone, those platform can help make the return/refund process a bit easier than dealing with direct sellers. Taobao too would be another option. Just have to compare prices and find the best deal.
indeed. it's kinda like the oneplus ace 3 too which has this feature but seemingly no IP rating. but most phones these are probably have some measures against water ingress, like having a rubber gasket around the usb-c port, mics, etc. might not but as good as full IP68, but should be fine against wet hands or a small drizzle. my guess is that that's what this feature is for rather than full on using the phone underwater or whatnot. For most more budget oriented devices, my guess is that it's just not worth paying the money to get it certified. 😅
thanks! this one was from taobao since some of their sellers do ship to SG. but more commonly it would be through importers. here in Singapore, lazada or shopee would have a few sellers doing the importing.
iirc, for their more recent global models like the xiaomi 13T series, they are offering 4 android updates and 5 years security patches. for their china only model and the chinese version of HyperOS... i have no idea actually. but i'm guess it won't be as long 😅
@@axhng hmm. Global version released take longer time. When they officially released another new model has been introduced after 2 or 3 months after that. Lol 🤦
🤣yeah, i don't care much for those features too and will normally disable android auto if I can. being able to uninstall almost all the extra stuff, is a nice bonus for me. the global version of HyperOS on the other hand has more things that can't be uninstalled or disabled.
i think i saw the Ultra refresh rate option when i was testing it back then, but i recall that when i use the built-in FPS monitoring option, it's only 60FPS. not sure how it is now though since i don't play the game.😅
i've not tried the iQOO 12 CN ROM, only have a short experience with the Neo9 Pro. In the time I had with it, it seems quite nice to use for the most part. Nice UI and animations, useful features built in, i like their gestures for floating window mode for example. Their desktop app for MacOS integration works rather well too and i can even mirror and control the phone on my Mac desktop. Also like HyperOS, it does have basic google services built in too so account sync (contacts, calendar, etc) works fine, and Play Store can be installed easily from the built-in app store too. Same caveats applies though with no Android Auto, no Google Location History, and notifications will have delay unless you change some app settings and lock the app to prevent them from being frozen. Another unfortunate thing is that their gaming upscaling and frame interpolation features doesn't work for global version of games like Genshin. only works for the chinese game client, which is a bit disappointing.
@@axhng really helpful, thanks alot. I want to get an SD gen 3 phone, and so far, iqoo 12 is in my top list. Realme gt 5 pro was my top but I don't like curved screen. But realme ui Chinese rom is really usable. Unlike redmi Chinese rom, it can be very restrictive from my past experience. Wanted to know if fun touch is usable like realme when you get the Chinese rom variant.
@@genesisyt9662 no problem. though for iQOO 12, since it's available in more countries outside of china, if you can get the global version, might be better to just go for that. I don't like their global FunTouchOS as much, but it should have less issues when using outside of China. 😅 and if you're not in a hurry, there are rumours that vivo X100s might have a flat screen too, and there might be a X100 Pro+ or Ultra, and iQOO 12s too perhaps looking at their previous release cycles.
