unfortunately no. if i'm not mistaken, only the US version OnePlus 12R will have eSIM support. Even the global version of OnePlus 12R in Singapore doesn't seem to support eSIM.
between the 2.. probably the iQOO 12 but only if it's CN ROM. if it's global ROM iQOO 12 vs k70 Pro, I will probably lean more towards K70 Pro since software experience is quite important to me and FunTouchOS is just.... not that great imo... iQOO 12 is a bit more expensive, but the camera performance is noticeably better to me and i think worth the extra if you care about camera quality. Plus smaller things like haptics, and speakers are better too. But personally at this point, i might not consider the K70 Pro anymore even if i don't care about camera quality, since there is the new Neo9S Pro+ which also has a SD8Gen3 processor, but has bigger battery as well as ultrasonic fingerprint sensor.😅or even the older Neo9 Pro or Neo9S Pro are both still good options if you're okay with mediatek's chipset.
@@axhng oh I didn't know there's a new neo9s pro variant, i guess I'll have to take a look on that one, and see which of these phone i will buy. thank you for that information.
Hi, I have question for you, I want to buy a new phone and I have 2 phone that I consider to buy, between this Oneplus Ace 3 vs Redmi K70 which one you think is better value for the money ? Here in Malaysia the different in price around RM100 (SGD28) which is K70 a little bit cheaper than Ace 3. For the preference I actually prefer flat screen more than curve screen but for the software I never use ColorOS or HyperOS before (been using OneUI for the past 4 years) but based on review that I watched I think I prefer ColorOS more than HyperOS, so which phone do you think better/good for me ?
the difference isn't huge and specs wise the Ace3 looks better. bigger battery, better screen, better fingerprint sensor, and OnePlus tends to have slightly better gaming performance where as Xiaomi usually is a little more conservative. But you'll have to see if having a curve screen is annoying enough for you or not... screen protectors for curve screens are harder to apply, and also cost more. Personally I tried a few, and the type that works best is the UV film type that similar to the ones they give out of the box. But they're still not as lasting as glass, especially the oleophobic coating, they are harder to apply since you literally only get 1 chance. a single speck of dust, and that's it. I think i probably ruined 2 before i got it right. even then, those are still more expensive than tempered glass. if you can wait a bit, perhaps you could consider the upcoming Nord 4 as well which is a little less powerful, but should have a flat screen, and will be running global ROM which is easier i guess. For Ace 3 you'll have to make sure the phone has been region unlocked as well so you can use it outside of China, so a bit more hassle there. Redmi is a little more hassle free in this regard since they don't have region lock.
@@axhng thank you for the very fast reply, I really appreciated you take some time to write a very detailed review/option, I guess I will wait for a bit and see what the Nord 4 can offer and for the spec I think there's will be not much different from Ace 3V other than the design only
@@pudinichigo91 no problem! hopefully there'll be a bit more than that since for Nord 3 i think they upgraded the camera over the ace2v as well. since from photos the nord4 camera placement is different, it might mean they changed some other things too internally. performance wise 7+Gen3 is not too far behind 8Gen2 anyway unless you're planning to play very demanding games on it.
@@axhng yeah, I hope they will give better sensor for Nord 4 even just for main camera only, btw 1 last question, which one do you like/prefer for the software/UI between ColorOS vs HyperOS? I want to hear your experience or opinion why you like that software/UI compared to others
@@pudinichigo91 between the two, maybe CN HyperOS by a small margin. To me it has a nicer layout on the homescreen when it comes to large folders, I like the more iOS style control centre and notification centre, it has a bit more gaming features (like in genshin being able to run the game at higher resolution natively), it has a manual video mode (something that OPPO refuses to add for some reason), and i find HyperOS a bit better in terms of auto brightness adjustment. Just that xiaomi is a little slower when it comes to updates, and "smoothness" probably is a little behind ColorOS 14 (the latests few versions). Also, xiaomi isn't doing any of the nonsense region lock like OnePlus is doing for their CN phones, so it's a little easier in that sense too. But these will differ from person to person i guess and for some, might not be a deal breaker at all. 😅
hi there. when i was using it i did get an ota update, and it went through just fine. it's the same for other CN phones i've used too from OPPO and vivo. so it most likely will get major android updates just fine too. just that i noticed xiaomi is a bit on the slower side when it comes to security updates compared to the other 2.
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i'm not sure how demanding the game is but SD8Gen2 is a lot more powerful and efficient compared to the 888. seeing that it could run even genshin quite well, i think most games should be fine?
The OnePlus Ace 3 on Giztop claims to have "full Google Mobile Service and Google Play store." Is this real? Is it supposed that having full Google Mobile Service would Google location history and other things work?
i have no idea. i went to see the listing on giztop and it says, "This phone is a Chinese edition, pre-installed global ColorOS with full Google Mobile Service and Google Play store, OTA updating supported." which doesn't make much sense since there is no "global ColorOS" for OnePlus phones, just OxygenOS. Maybe they meant OxygenOS, but then I'm not sure if that will work as perfectly since from XDA, I've seen that conversion from CN ColorOS to global OxygenOS from the 12R has certain issues. Of course maybe they have special or secret tools/methods to do a proper full conversion with no issues with OTA / network. Probably better to just clarify with them, or hopefully someone who has bought from them can help out here.
@@axhng Thanks for the information. I sent them an email asking about it. Some questions since you have the device: Widevine level is L1? Is SafeyNet Passed on this device? I assume you have the 100% Stock CN ROM (which only has Chinese and English?)
@@dionnyvillalona6978 yeah, i have the stock CN ROM. it's L1 and safetynet passed too, so no issues with google pay or banking apps. though i didn't try netflix, amazon prime, etc to see if the device has been whitelisted or not though since I don't use those services. Language wise I can't recall exactly since I don't have the device with me anymore, but i recall it having more than just EN and CN though.
@@axhng I asked them the same question through the online chat (which was offline at the time) and via email. This I asked: "I want to buy the ONEPLUS ACE 3 but I have a question regarding Google Services that claims to be the full version. With the ROM that you install, can I run Google Auto, WearOS, Google Location History and other things that usually fail in Chinese ROMs?". Via email they told me: "we checked this phone only available with original china rom version, which installed with google play store, there is no global rom for this phone." And chat response: "The ONEPLUS ACE 3 supports Google Auto, WearOS, and Google Location History.". The chat response was just a copy-paste of what I said. The answers don't seem very reliable to me.
@@dionnyvillalona6978 The former sounds more accurate since there are some hardware differences between OnePlus Ace 3 and OnePlus 12R, so the ROM from 12R likely still wouldn't work properly without some hassle. Last i read on XDA it was something like losing network signal unless you flash something onto the phone, and i think after every OTA update you'll have to do the same too. it just feels too much like a patchwork and a bit iffy to me. If all those google specific features are important to you, it's probably a better idea to consider the OP12 instead, which I think is able to do a more seamless conversion from ColorOS to OxygenOS.
for neo9 it's probably just the price. for long run usage, the 9300+ will definitely last longer. apps and games will only keep getting more and more demanding over time and the more powerful phone will be more usable longer. 👍the Neo9S Pro+ should be launching soon as well with SD8 Gen 3 based on leaks, so if you want something with snapdragon chip, that could be an option too!
personally i like the neo9S pro more. flat screen, lighter, better performance when gaming, slightly better camera performance, software experience is better, and there is no need to worry about region lock. but if you want curve screen, brighter screen, better fingerprint sensor, build quality, slightly better battery life, then Ace 3 might be more suitable. Just have to make sure the seller already did a region unlock for you.
@@axhng thank you so much for the reply. I'm not that much into gaming. Which of it do you think would be better for daily media consumption? More on netflix and youtube.
@@rendomingo5674 then perhaps the OnePlus Ace 3? the screen does look nicer and has bigger battery. just have to get used to the curved screen. It might also be a bit cheaper, at least from prices I've seen. ColorOS is mostly pretty similar to OxygenOS too, so might be a more familiar experience compared to OriginOS.
Personally I like the Neo9S Pro a bit more because it's lighter, and originOS i think is a little nicer overall. Also prices for the Neo9S Pro seems to be a bit lower too whereas for K70 Pro, despite being much older, prices on taobao and other online shopping platforms was still a bit higher than Neo9S Pro somehow during sales. But they're pretty close though, and both are good phone imo. But at this point, you might want to wait a bit. Ace 3 Pro is launching in China right this moment, SD8Gen with 6100mAh battery. The Redmi K70 Ultra with D9300+ and iQOO Neo9S Pro+ with SD8Gen3 should both be launching soon as well, and will both likely have larger batteries too.
No problem. They're really both quote close though, and both got their own pros and cons and to me the Neo9S pro might be a bit more suitable, but for other, they might like the k70 pro more. But yeah, I would just recommend waiting a bit to see how the newer devices go first though. Even if they don't end up being too appealing, it might bring the prices of the k70 pro and neo9s pro down a bit. Haha.
I will forever be annoyed by the ridiculous price difference between the Ace 3 imports and the local sets of OnePlus 12R in Malaysia, literally destroys the primary purpose of a phone at the "supposed" price range, only reason I'm holding off is because import Ace 3 won't get free screen replacements if the inevitable lines of screen death appear at any moment.
yeah. the price difference is just ridiculous, not to mention nerfing the storage speed too, and how the US version of the 12R seems to have eSIM support, but not the version we get here in MY/SG. I think still not sure how prone to the green line issue the Ace 3 will be though. I personally think that it's due to wear and tear on the display due to heat. my sister has a xiaomi 11t pro that had the same green line issue show up after a software update, but i don't think the software itself is the issue, but rather the update process which usually heats up the phone a lot. and updates sometimes occur while the phone is charging, and in her case, also the phone was in a thick case and sitting on top of her bed too which made the phone really hot. that's my guess at least. so it might not be as bad for phones these days since the processors run cooler and most phones from china have pretty good heat dissipation hardware too. but well that's just my guess at least. Anyway, ace 3 pro is launching in china today IIRC in like 30+ mins or so? haha
@@jaylikesfrieskekwxdxdxd even then, having peace of mind knowing that you can claim warranty repairs locally is a pretty big deal over here in MY/SG region, instead of having to relay the broken global import device to your original seller , which then forwards the phone back to China , it will take a long time till you get your phone back, that's assuming the seller you bought it from even bothers to help you with any aftersales service
I had the 2020 SE and loved it. It was the perfect phone for me. I was convinced to 'upgrade' to a bigger device a couple years back and never got used to it. Just ordered myself a refurbished 2022 SE and am so excited to go back to this form factor. I don't game or use much social media at all, so this phone is perfect for me and my uses (texting, occasional photos of my kitties, scrolling reddit, etc.) Great video! I never would've thought it'd be a little powerhouse for gaming.
i think the current version of ColorOS does at least. from what I know OPPO did a lot of optimisations since ColorOS 14 first launched, and it's a lot better than it was back then. I don't have a phone i can directly compare to right now, but i think it feels more responsive and smoother than when I was using OP11 last year. the OP11 might be better now of course, but i don't have it around anymore, so can't really compare. I do have the OnePlus 10R still on the latest oxygenOS and it doesn't perform as well as CN ColorOS on the Ace 3, but that could be because of the newer hardware too.
@@esrafelsafar0584 good will be the smoothness and responsiveness of colorOS nowadays. then it has good amount of customisation in the UI too, and for CN colorOS, it has a lot more controls over app permissions compared to global ROM, plus the ability to uninstall most of the apps I don't want. for the downsides, other than the usual things for all CN ROM, like no Android auto, nearby share, google location history, might have to manually tweak the app settings to allow apps you want immediate notifications from to run in the background. If not sometimes the phone can be a bit more aggressive at killing apps. Another thing is perhaps auto-brightness being not that good, like it's often a little too bright or a little too dim, but the OS doesn't seem to learn user preferences. So I do find myself needing to adjust the brightness from time to time. but this one is a OPPO/OnePlus issue which is the same no matter colorOS or OxygenOS. there are probably a few other minor things to me, but then nothing that I would consider a deal breaker. but your mileage may vary though since everyone got different preference. 😅
The auto-brightness makes the screen so dim to me in the low-light environment that I must manually adjust it every time I unlock the phone or disable the auto brightness for the adjustment to stay.
ah, thanks for the reminder... i always forget to mention the auto-brightness. it was like this for the OnePlus 11 too. I find OPPO/OnePlus devices' auto-brightness not as good as other brands for sure. Also, it always seems quite eager to boost the brightness and slow to adjust down. So if i'm indoors but a stray spotlight hits the phone, the screen would suddenly just become too bright, and then i'll have to manually adjust it down. and they don't seem to "learn" from user preferences at all. :/
to elaborate a bit on something you mentioned - switch emulation will probably be better on the snapdragon platform due to more mature drivers compared with mediatek
thanks! in general i've been seeing it at around 550 and sometimes slightly lower on shopee/lazada during sales, and taobao would be another option too since during sales, i've seen it go as low as around 510 SGD or so after tax. Mine was a bit cheaper than that, but it's used set, so not really the best benchmark since probably won't see many of these in the first place.😅
no idea, but i believe all phones using OLED screens will have the chance of developing green lines when the panel gets damaged. I've seen it happen on xiaomi phones, sony phones, samsung phones, vivo phones, iphones, etc. It's mostly happening on older phones too, so we won't know for sure until much later. my guess is that it could heat related wear and tear since a lot of ppl have reported seeing the green line after a software update. my sister has a xiaomi phone (11T Pro) that developed a green line after an update and her comment was that the phone felt really hot at that time. the updating process will usually heat up the phone a lot and sometimes that update process happens while the phone is plugged in and charging. most ppl have their phones in a case too and what not. and things like placing the phone on their bed (which traps a ton of heat) doesn't help too. basically, i believe most phones will have the chance of developing green line since it's just a symptom of damaged OLED screen. If you're really concerned about it, just try your best to avoid dropping the phone, or making the phone run too hot too often.
Literally a sleeper phone fast and reliable, I picked one up for $20 had a remote management company portal managed to remove it now a perfectly working phone does the job and more
I dont know how this video came up on my TL, but im here on Pixel 8pro as a former Og pixel XL owner. I definitely loved that phone and I have been with Google since the nexus 6. And I've had every Pixel except for the 2 and 4.
Hello, I am planning to buy this phone during the 618 promotion. Are there any bugs in the international version of the OS? Except that NFC cannot be used. (although I don't use this)
I haven't kept up to date. But from the XDA thread I saw about the issues regarding flashing global ROM on the Ace3, I wouldn't recommend it though. I haven't tried it myself since I'm fine with using the CN version of colorOS. But if you're planning on getting it during 618 from China directly, the main issue is probably region lock though. Gotta make sure the seller can unlock it for you.
@@axhng I have received the phone. It looks like the seller has unlocked the region restrictions and flashed PJE110's ColorOS 14. Since I rarely use the phone and don't use most of the unrealistic features, it seems to be OK. The only problem now is that I can't upgrade from 14 to 14.1 because I heard that doing so will cause signal loss. Maybe I can wait for the custom ROM ColorOS update instead of the official ROM update.
🤣yeah, i don't care much for those features too and will normally disable android auto if I can. being able to uninstall almost all the extra stuff, is a nice bonus for me. the global version of HyperOS on the other hand has more things that can't be uninstalled or disabled.
it's still on ColorOS 13 for yours? i thought they rolled our ColorOS 14 for Ace 2 Pro late last year. But if your phone can't get the OTA for some reason even though the bootloader is untouched and not rooted, maybe you could try to use the "local upgrade" option and downloading the ROM from online. No idea where to get official ROM though, perhaps XDA or gotta rely on Chinese sites.
like most other chinese phones, no android auto, nearbyshare won't work, google location history won't work too. then some smaller stuff will be the need to uninstall and turn off more things, which makes for a longer setup process. but it has other advantages too. like CN rom usually have more features, lets you uninstall more things from the phone, it has way more control over app permissions, gets updated faster, and if you use apps like bilibili, no need to sideload and you can just install from their App Market and update from there too. in the Ace3's case, i recommend doing more research about the conversion to OxygenOS because last I read on XDA, the process isn't perfect and might be quite troublesome. if you really want oxygenOS, might want to consider OP12 too which might not be that much more expensive these days and I think can be converted to oxygenOS more easily. at least here in singapore, on 6/6 sales on lazada, the prices were really low.
@@axhng i likely just use color OS instead of oxygen...idk why so many people convert their phone into oxygen...at some case...that u said not perfectly done...their connection due internet cant be done anymote after the flash
@@mohamadtahir5178 I've been using CN ColorOS and it's been fine with even local government and banking apps in Singapore. though not sure about MY side though. I think a lot of ppl just prefer using something with full google services? it is easier in a sense since no need to install playstore and all the google stuff like nearby share, location history will work. the main thing to look out for is just to make sure from the seller that the phone is region unlocked. Most importers will probably know about this since they've been doing this nonsense region lock thing since Ace 2.
Hi, can you tell me since it hasn't been released globally yet if it's missing something on the software side, network language or similar stuff? Thank you very much.
hmm. the most obvious things I can see would be the google stuff. like it won't have Android auto, nearbyshare, google location history. network wise, you'll probably have to check the support bands anyway to make since even global phones might have varying bands that they support or don't, especially if you're using 5G plan. 4G should be pretty safe though. system language wise, not sure if it's missing any, but it does have english at least which I can switch to during first boot.
Bloatwares always turns me off, but dang if you showed me this phone and the camera samples as they are I wouldn't have thought it was marketed as a gaming phone, though like you said they are shifting away from that to a more general phone.Overall I've been seeing vivo releasing better phones recently (or maybe I just never bothered last time), and it's exciting for me with so many options should I get a new phone next time.
yeah, the camera performance is really quite surprising from a supposing "gaming focused" brand. and it's shame that some of the bloatware can't be disabled or installed too. Ironically, their CN only OriginOS actually allows for most of the pre-installed app to be removed, even a lot of their own apps. This is the same for CN HyperOS and ColorOS too, both allow the removal of a lot more built-in apps than their global version. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ but well, it's not a huge deal breaker in the end. i can still go into those bloatware's app info page to turn off permissions and whatnot, then chuck them into a folder and ignore them completely. 🤣
Thanks for the suggestion, but unfortunately I probably wouldn't be reviewing those devices since they don't really interest me as much. from what I see from reviews in CN, they are not the best when it comes to gaming performance, which is something that I look for in a phone these days. 😅
It kinda depends on where you live. In general, just get from a reputable importer or online shopping platforms so that at least you have some recourse if the phone has issues out of the box. Some better seller might even offer their own warranty, but just have to keep in mind to not count on that too much since it will be completely up to their discretion. For me in Singapore, shopping platforms like shopee and Lazada is usually the first place I'll look at since if there's anything wrong with the phone, those platform can help make the return/refund process a bit easier than dealing with direct sellers. Taobao too would be another option. Just have to compare prices and find the best deal.