Tbh, for posting type beats on the web that can actually be fine if you get good with it. It's always better to improve and streamline a solid mixing workflow but at the same time... if it sounds good, then who really gives a f*** 😂
EdTalenti i’m just focused on getting my melodies and beats sounding catchy. then i’ll focus on mixing. it’s all a process, a very painful and slow one lol. 🤣
@@bluezy1 A work flow will help that process making it easier and faster. If you do not apply everything while you are doing it its going to make it harder later for you. Been doing this for years. I also use the soft clipper on certain tracks as well as the Master channel but it doesnt stop there. Soft clipper just keep things from clipping as you boost. Still you have to mix and master to get a great sound.
Mr. Talenti, thank you so much for this video. It has been very helpful. Being able to see someone walk through a mix really clarified a lot of things for me. I've been producing a long time and this video really helped me up my mixes to the next level. You are a great teacher and I love how positive you are about everything in your videos. Thank you.
Honestly? I wouldn't be able to explain it and maybe someone on here can help with that question. All I know is that after years of trial and error and experimentation, I came to this conclusion and it changed the quality of my beats tremendously.
@@EdTalenti Bouncing everything to audio makes everything stable, so the computer does not have to process all of the audio going through your plugins. And depending on which sounds and plugins you've used, starting playback at certain points in time will make it sound different. So it makes complete sense (atleast to me) to master your beat bounced to audio in a new project :)
UGH FUCKING THANK YOU SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY EXPLAINS GAIN STAGING CORRECTLY AAAAHHHHH YOU'VE MADE MY MIX SO CLEAR THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you so much for this video Mr. Talenti! I suck,mixing. I’m a hobbyist. Just enjoy making music for the sake of doing it. I’ve been producing stuff since 1999. This video has helped so much. Thank you for everything you do. You’re light really shines through man. Thank you so much!
This is the kind of Ableton stuff I want to see. This video is pretty professional and much deeper than other tutorials. I appreciate your insights on mixing!🙏
Because you know how FL Studio works. Same with Ableton, Logic Pro, etc. If you know how it works, have learned all the basics, it is not that haed as it seems. I've been using Ableton for about 4 years and the whole process is so easy and not confusing at all
For anyone watching the tutorial make sure you have SPAN or what ever plugin you use to measure volume with at the end of your Effects channels. something so simple, but a stupid mistake i used to make alot lol
@@rasheedsaibu4147 yep, you’re right on the nail! effect chains work In the order you put them in (in abletons case, from left to right). whatever you put at the beginning of the chain gets affected by the effects that are next in line.
I think the most important part of mixing is proper sound selection, if you have the right, quality sounds that blend well with each other depending on the unique project, then the mixing phase will be easier, just a matter of putting things in various pockets in your stereo field, and subtly shaping the tone and feels of the various sounds. It feels like it sometimes but mixing isn't really rocket science. Thanks for this video ED, keep being awesome.
Man.. sometimes we are so eager to get to the final product that we jump the little but important steps. Big Gem. Export .wav and then master. Love you dude.
@@sorenhendricks5435 What I do is take Ozone, set it to assistant, and it does it for me. The plugin also has some presets. It's good enough for beats because it's not the final mastered version anyway because the artist's engineer will master it with vocals. Even this isn't that necessary for the same reason, but it will sound better to artists when they are comparing your beats to others
its part of sound design not part of mixing Edit: I don't recall typing this comment so this is a friendly reminder for my friend to use his own account if he wants to comment on something. Thank you
The Span plugin that you're using here for the leveling, is it on the Master channel? (I use Fl Studio and quite a beginner, not aware of Ableton and other DAWs) or have you used one instance of Span for each Sound?
Dumb question, but how come you didn't use a utility on the hi hats? You just turned it down on the channel itself. I am new to mixing so I am just curious.
Two different jobs. Ideally, you shouldn't master your own tracks. For one thing, professional mastering is done by people who do nothing else (or not much else) than just mastering. They know how to make music sound great on different formats, how to get your mix right on vinyl if it's going there. Secondly, you are biased about your work and we all have certain weaknesses, and someone else can look at it more objectively and see problems that you missed. But if you are doing it yourself, you should do as much as possible to get your head in a different space. Take a good break between the mixing job and the mastering job. The mastering should be a new project: bounce all channels to stems, simplify it where it needs to be simplified (groups that are set in stone, for example). Free up your computer's resources as much as possible for your mastering effects (freeze tracks if you really refuse to commit them to audio), partly for your mind's sake but also to ensure that the computer isn't being stretched and everything is as accurate as it can be. It's a mistake to think that you need all your effects to be live in case you need to change them. At the mastering stage, there shouldn't be anything you'll need to change that can't be achieved with the audio: little EQ tweaks can be done with bounced stems. Mastering is all about extremely subtle but valuable decisions to eke out a bit more quality: broad, slight changes in EQ, gentle compression, subtle limiting, all adding up to a great sum total. Mastering should not be a matter of nuking the dynamics or squeezing radical loudness out of the piece. It is *definitely* not about crushing the mix in a limiter until you get the same LUFS figure as some track you like. That's just going to make a track that sounds horrible when you play it loud. (As Ed says, mastering is usually done on a single stereo file, but just simplifying the mix will do; getting it down to the smallest number of stems will be plenty if you're the one trying to do it, as a compromise between commitment and strict simplicity!) RU-vid is great for people sharing creative ideas and spreading mixing advice, but it's also created this insane pressure for every presenter to claim to be able to do mastering and for every aspiring producer watching to think they have to do mastering too. You shouldn't. Your room probably isn't good enough, your monitors probably aren't good enough, and you probably don't have the experience or knowledge needed to do it well. It can look dauntingly expensive when Google SEO shows you pro mastering from the world's top engineers and it's £75-150 per track, but that gets you the services of someone who masters for artists like Lizzo and Coldplay and you don't necessarily need them. A decent pro at a real studio with a few years' experience under their belt will charge somewhere around £20 per track, and if you give them a large batch of tracks to do at once then there may be a discount. If you care about your music and you're aiming for success with it - i.e. you're about to release your music, spend money on promotion, push it to radio djs, push it to playlists - this shouldn't be a problem for you. If it seems like too much money then you probably don't need mastering yet: keep working on mixing and come back to the idea when you're ready to go properly professional.
While I 100% agree with what you are saying in this comment, the type of work most producers do for their beats is not aimed to uploading the tracks to streaming services and an investment of that kind on mastering would just be a waste IMO. When we sell a beat, 99% of the times it gets mixed and mastered by the artist that purchased it, or rather his engineers. Our "mastered" version is simply a way to showcase the best sounding version of our beat to artists that may be interested in buying it. In fact, when someone purchases a license to a beat, they don't even receive the mastered 0db version, but simply a mixed one and the stems. The amount of music online producers post on a daily basis would make hiring a mastering engineer a HUGE expense, and honestly not a necessary one considering the purpose of selling beats.
3:45 you say, the next step is compresion. You say it like if all the tracks should be mixed like this. You don't say why you put a compressor there, and there are drum patters that sometimes they don't need compresion. You should more say what you will archive with the type of effect that you are putting in the chain.
and just to add the comp. its not doing anything as the threshold is not set right and there is no db reduction which basically means no compresion happening
@EdTalenti like your video but why do you mute the rumble below 20Hz if its not heard and why do you listen to to check if you can hear the difference if its frequency which you can not hear at all :D
I don't know anything about Waves H-Comp but the meter didn't move at all when he put it on, so I'm going to assume there was literally no compression applied, and whatever "effect" that was added was just coloration or maybe soft-clipping. Interesting mixing move imo. Edit: went back and rewatched, the compressor was useless
I use h comp too, this guy compressed nothing... Lot of people, just think about the treashold but don't care about how much they really compress their sound. meaning that they don't understand compressors
Nice video Ed! Just one question, u didn't put a sidechain in the 808. Did you forget or you feel you didn't need it? Thanks again, and very useful video!
Dope vid bruh! Will you have the other part of this where you take it to do the mastering ? That would hep big time! Pleaseeeeeeee!! Keep up the amazing work happy holidays and keep making them dope beats!
@@EdTalenti p.s just an fyi you can side chain that 808 or you can side-chain the dynamic frequencies with fabfilter pro Q after setting the frequency right click on the node and select make dynamic this way the select frequencies get ducked from the dynamics making room for that low end kick and 808! got to love fabfilter EQ for this! You might like it!
Solid video! im going to follow this video step by step & step up my mixing. can you show how you do your mastering for this track in particular? so we can see you getting the finished product
Hey man, I’ve some questions for you: MIX: 1st: Why you didn’t export your tracks to wav and work it in MIDI? 2nd: If I don’t have 808 but have a bass line or some low end from an original sample it works the same way? (For lofi hip-hop for example) 3rd: Why didn’t you separate the drums per sound (kick, clap, percs)? MASTER: 1st: You always do that chain before the real mastering process?
MIX: 1. The only issue with working with MIDI would be CPU overload, but in this case I only had a couple instruments so that wasn't a problem. 2. Yeah for the most part. Gain stage it, EQ it, compress it a bit (maybe with some sidechain) and you should be good! 3. If the samples are already processed and ready (as with most samples in producer kits) then all you really need to do is set levels for them. Unless you wanted to specifically apply an effect on a single instrument you can usually get away with working direclty on the group. MASTER: 1. Yeah like 99% of the time. Then I export the arranged mixed beat as a wav and open a new session where I master it.
I have a question. Do you group your drums (kick, snare, perc, hh closed and perc ) in one group and set the level of that group at -12db? I was a little confused at that part of the tutorial... Dope content like always
any reason why you have your drums at -12db? I thought even having them at 6 wasn't even relevant anymore since a mixing or mastering engineer can simply turn it down if needed. Thought -3db was ideal.
Not really that would totally work! I just like having that Utility at the beginning of each chain whether it's audio or midi, it's such a simple interface it just makes it easier to quickly glance at it at any point.
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ED, Should I be converting my midi tracks to wav first and then mixing down as wavs? Will it make a big difference? Your thoughts welcome.Thanks a lot Bro
Bro... you made this so easy! I've spent hours on mixing one song, spanning days... people sell all sorts of courses on how to do this... and you break it down to about 15 minutes. I took notes on everything. Thank you so much! Excited to implement this on my next song!
Thank you so much Ed, I managed to fix a few muddy mixes after watching this. I really appreciate your work, please keep going! You thaught me mixing in less than 20 mins :-) Amazing!
Anyone else spend like 20-30 minutes at a time bouncing back and forth between certain settings and then drive themselves nuts trying to decide? If so, just pick one and move on. You’re wasting you’re creative juices. I have wasted hundreds of hours doing this and still have to remind myself after all these years. If it’s a big problem in your mix, you will come back to it later.
Great tips! I've been producing electronic music for some years now and I can attest that everything this man said was pretty spot on as far as i know. I will be coming back for more! I also highly recommend getting SPAN(the analyzer plugin he's using in this video) and watch a few RU-vid on how to utilize it, it's super useful when you know what you're looking at.
Just a quick one why not lower the volume of the plugin or sample instead of putting all the instances of utility. New gainstage process to me but hey.if it works for you that's great.beats sound hard tho🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hey bro, I've tried using SPAN and the Utility tool, and there's been many times that I will begin to decrease the gain but the levels don't show any changes on SPAN. Can you help me determine why this might be?
So you put H-comp (compressor) on each drum sound (or only one kick) ? And also percussions? Like one instance of compressor on Kick, on Snare, on HiHats, and on other percs ?
sorry bro but you dont know about mixing even a fundamentals... but beat is good. Learn more before You try do tutorials for peolpe who dont know nothnig about it, becouse you learn them how to do mistakes. No hate, olny tru opinion, peace.
Hi, good content! Dont wanna be a smart ass but here we go anyway. Your not compressing the kick at all. The treshold is to high to catch anything, the needle doesnt move. Unless you just go for the compressor tone that is.
Is it me or does he contradict himself a lot with the -18 and -12db thing? He said that he likes everything at -12db except 808 and then he says that his main melody should be at -18
i dont understand what you did with the compressor on your drum rack, the needle is buging or what lol ?! i think you should lower the ratio and do the same for the treshold, you would get a more punchy result !! but i'm not sure of what i'm saying lol, peace and sorry for my english !
Anyone help please, I purchased beats from a professional and I got sent the stems. Do I have to do any mixing to those layers of stems / instruments or can I just go ahead and rap on them and only mix my vocals ?
Im a studio one user but i see your mixing in midi and not in wav which is kind of confusing.. I didn't think you were supposed to mix in midi. I always bounce mine to wav or do you not have to. Feed back please.
Very helpful. I’m just getting into using a spectrum analyzer and never know what level certain instruments should be for gain staging. I do of the same things you do but in a different order.I group everything first and then start to add compression,eq etc on sub mixes. Kick snare,drums percussion,Bass, synths all have their own sub mixes.
Im such an idiot, GUYS if you use the span vst to mesure your tracks, put it after the utility tool or it will mesure the volume before the utility tool makes the lowers it. It took me a lil while to get what I was doing wrong
