The Cobra Killer takes on the RAC TT Celebration 

@@onazram1 That's you take on my comment? That I'm not paying attention? My post was for the idiots that think it did beat Cobras. Your reading comprehension skills are seriously lacking my friend.

@@joevalicenti2722 I think calling it a Cobra Killer is appropriate. The fact that Ford and the Cobras went crying to get the rules changed fits the bill. The Cheetah is a Cobra Killer because the Cobra killed it's reputation by being afraid of the competition and excluding the Cheetah. Kind of the way democrats approach elections these days.

@@onazram1 👍👍

@@onazram1 calling it a "Cobra Killer" implies it beat Cobras. They didn't call it a "Cobra Competitor"

@@onazram1 You didn't pay attention to the title of the video obviously 😬

Ditto! 52 years ago I got a black Cheetah slot car. Spent many days drooling and dreaming over it. It has to be my most favorite car.

My Cox Cheetah slot car was British racing green

@@BobMarshall-vp7ot Mine was red like the one in the video sans the white racing stripe.

Me too!

We do, run by HSR.

That might have kept the front end on the ground.

More cubic inches is the last thing any Cheetah needs. It's an unruly little monster even with 400-430bhp from a 327 smallblock

The reason it didn't take off is because it was already too powerful for how small and light it was! Big block power would have only exacerbated it's problems. Honestly, the "Z28" 302 engine would've been the perfect engine for the little Cheetah's, but it wasn't developed until late '66...

​@@livewire2759Hot Rodders have built those engines ever since the 327 came out. It's just a mixture of 283 and 327 cranks and blocks. Chevrolet only built them to fit the SCCA limit of 5 liters, for the sedan class, which was what the Trans Am series required. Cheetahs were all built with a bored and stroked 327, to 377 ci. What made them evil was poor aerodynamics, with lift front and rear, and spoilers and air dams still not invented yet.

@@ramblerdave1339 Sure, some engine builders were probably building 302s as early as '62, but the Cheetah was built by Chevy engineers using brand new Chevy parts... and CHEVY didn't build any 302s until late '66 for the '67 model year Camaro's. Brand new Chevy 302s didn't exist when the Cheetah's were built... However, because of the Grand Sport Corvettes built earlier in '63, there were a few 377s still laying around after GM stopped Duntov from building more Grand Sports. Yes, they could have built their own engines, but it was much easier to keep the project "under the radar" (since GM was still enforcing the AMA racing ban, which is why they shut down the GS project), by sneaking some complete engine assemblies out of storage, like the ones already built but no longer being used for the GS's. Yes, the major drawback of the Cheetah was the poor aerodynamics, as well as a few other things, but contrary to the OP's opinion, I was simply pointing out that a smaller engine would have helped the Cheetah more so than a larger engine.... precisely because of the poor aero and handling characteristics of the car. It didn't need any more power, it already had too much, and since fancy aero technology hadn't been figured out yet, reducing the power would have been their best option to improve the car at the time, but as we have both pointed out, Chevy wasn't building 302s yet. Therefore, it probably would have been better to use some old Fuelie 283s if there were any of those still laying around, but they had already given up on the Cheetah after it wasn't allowed to run in the same class as the Cobra's anyway.

You must be using an iphone, no spaces before punctuaction.

@alexander1485 worse yet , a tablet . This is with a space before the punctuation .

That is total bullshit. The Cheetah never beat a single Cobra in Sanctioned Competition. They didn't even race in the same class so no reason for Ford to even care about it.

No Cheetah went 215 mph and stayed on the ground, without aero aids that hadn't been invented yet, they were known for not being able to steer, at 180, because of front end lift. By the way, the SCCA rule for sports cars was 100 produced.

@ramblerdave1339 seeing as your channel was only created around three years ago , I highly doubt that you were even thought of back in 1964 . As for the rest of the story , when the driver came into the pits and learned just how fast he had run , he turned pale , and couldn't duplicate his feat . BTW that was an official clocking , verified by numerous teams also .

A well-sorted Kellison J4 is probably better than a Cheetah. A couple of J4s compete in UK historic races and always look more driver-friendly than Cheetahs.

@@terryjacob8169 Thanks for the good word!

The only thing stronger than cubic inches is cubic money. It will be back soon.

They were hand built, and can be hand rebuilt!

@@georgewallerlll496 wasnt sure what make...Thankyou.

It is a Bizzarini, and if I remember correctly, it's already repaired and racing ..

The shame would be NOT racing these cars.

@@patbateman6729 none.

@@johnwilburn8319 Exactly

I don't think you've watched the same Goodwood races as I have. The Revival and Members Club meetings I've seen feature plenty of paint-swapping.

Paddock is terrible for pics tho.

Kinda a first world problem though.

Yes they all had 327s with mech fuel injection, despite rumors than some were fitted with 366s.

@barath4545 they weren't 366s they were bored and stroked 327s taken out to 377 cubic inches . I've been a fan since they were introduced in the December of 1963 issue of Hot Rod Magazine . Still have that issue to boot .

​@@bobbrinkerhoff3592 Your facts are correct, this time!

@ramblerdave1339 My facts are correct every ,time . If you need confirmation of the 215 mph story , go watch the episode of Stacey David's show GEARZ , where he introduced his then new Cheetah project , and interviewed the owner of the Cheetah that ran that lap . Do you actually believe that FoMoCo would have ( such a sissy fit if the Cheetah had run within a few mph of their Cobras instead of 30 mph faster .BTW season 9 , episode 5 .

So did Cox

They weren't failing at that time. In fact, they were so successful in the 50s & 60s that they were afraid of the govt. enforcing anti monopoly laws on them, which would have forced them to split all of the divisions into separate companies. That's why GM was the ONLY manufacturer that continued to enforce the AMA ban on factory racing support during the 60s. They finally lifted the ban in '67 AFTER Ford and Chrysler had dominated for about 5 straight years, and then they only had 3 years to play catch-up before the emissions era neutered performance when all R&D money had to be put into meeting new emissions/fuel economy requirements.

Don't be a knob.

GM was the one that was getting out of racing, "officially". Ford made no such pretenses.

@@ramblerdave1339 Yep. And I love those little '61/2/3 Rambler Americans station wagons!

GM bailed on the Cheetah and backed Jim Hall and the Chaparrals. We know how that worked out, don’t we?

​@@ramblerdave1339shitcar/gm did a TON OF "BACKDOOR" PARTS/ENGINEERING TO ALL IT'S COMPETITORS!!!! INCLUDING ALL THE CHEATING PROWESS/KNOWLEDGE OF SMOKEY EUNICK'S MASSIVE CHEATING PLOYS, WAS EMPLOYED BY CHEVY/GM TO HELP THEM CHEAT!!!!!!

The whole race is available to watch, this video is to take you inside Duncan and Stuart's race.

And yet the same drivers would decide which car would win...

The video wasn't about racing at Goodwood... it was about the Cheetah... which just happened to be racing at Goodwood.

Imagine all the other manufacturers that 'complained' about Ford's dominance. BTW, Ford never complained about the Cheetah because the Cobra didn't even race against the them. They were in two entirely different classes. Go cry somewhere else Chevy boy.

@@joevalicenti2722 the reason they were in two different classes IS because of FORD complaining to the SCCA , about having to race against the Cheetah .

@@bobbrinkerhoff3592 Cobras 427 Competition Cobra - A-Production. 289 Competition Cobra - B-Production. LeMans Spec 289 Competition Cobra - GT Chevrolet Cheetah - C-Sports and C-Modified As there were only somewhere from 11 to 23 cars built it would never be allowed by the SCCA to run in production class so it languished in C-Sports and C-Modified. Ford had no say in the matter so didn't even care about the Cheetah and had no reason to complain about it what-so-ever. That whole thing is just you trying to validate your feelings by imagining Ford executives whining to the SCCA. The SCCA doesn't give a hoot what Ford or any other manufacturer does or says. That said it did rack up 11 major race wins in 1964 alone and claimed numerous local events. Considering it was racing specialty race cars like Chaparrals, Lolas, and McLarens that is pretty impressive. Would it have beat the Cobras? Sure but unfortunately the Cobra was classed as a production car by the SCCA and the Cheetah was classed as a specialty racer so they were not going to race head to head in sanctioned competition. S in the end, the car that was designed and pitched to Chevrolet to beat the Cobra... never actually beat a Cobra.

I think the Cheetah looks awesome :) Bit like a shrink wrapped mix of C2 Vette and Shelby Daytona Coupe.

@@rogerwennstrom6677 Well, it’s no D-Type … and that’s the best body you will see, outside the bedroom … ☺️