The Cold Medicine Killer: The Case Of Lauren Hugelmaier 

Reminds me of Susan Powell

The sad thing is, that's pretty normal these days. My daughter included, most of the women I know in relationships reach a point of acceptance like this man is not everything I want, but I guess its an ok mix of good things & the bad things I can handle. I went to her house a few days ago to spend time with my grandkids, & she said sorry about the mess. One of the biggest issues I saw was multiple shopping bags that just hadn't been unpacked. I always clean up, do all the dishes there are, & I unpacked all the bags. I mentioned today that I don't get how her bf can be there, see the bags like I did & it doesn't occur to him to put stuff away. She said, yeah, we're working on that. What is there to work on?

This is a really common things with abusers, they make it so they rely on you and you feel less likely to leave

@@nicholasschoonbeck6866 That's sad 😥 nobody should have to settle for a man child

@@Kriistall7 Yeah, its pretty pathetic how resistant men are to growth, even though they feel so threatened about their manhood all the time. There seems to be some disconnect between what a man should be like or do & the things they should be doing are somehow not that. I went to my daughter's house the other day to see my grandkids while she was working & I cleaned up a bit for her, did the dishes, etc & there was 4 different shopping bags with food items that hadn't been put away & I'm astounded that her bf lives there & it never occurred to him to just put that stuff away. I said so to my daughter & she said, "Yeah, we're working on that." As if its a struggle to make him understand that helping is good.

josie morris Omg I know right so he stabbed her 123 times I never heard of that many stab wounds that’s just nasty af🥺🥺🥺

Yes! How do you not know you stabbed someone 123 times?! Even if you’re “high”. That’s so messed up! And he is SO FAKE! His mom sounds like a real treat too. Her poor family. Just horrible!

123 STAB WOUND, DIDNT WANT TO GIVE HER A CHANCE HUH! It’s a Detroit Become Human quote pls don’t attack me

@@MithrilMagic showing up to the party in a white dress and all... My heart breaks for Lauren for sure!

123? Omfg 😕

I’m so sorry for your loss

So sorry for your loss ♥️

I'm sorry for your loss. And you don't have to forgive. This myth that not forgiving will bring you down eventually is just simply a not true. People who can't or won't forgive can do so without this supposed "darkness" inside of them. Like you said, some things are just not forgivable to some of us.

Sorry for your lost... forgiveness isn’t for them it’s for you... don’t allow that person to have power of your emotions

sorry for your loss.

Same! I don’t have social media anymore but when I did, when a guy liked EVERYTHING I posted, it was red flag #1.

Yep

agreed, when Kendall said that I immediately thought "red flag"

Yeah. As soon as she said that, I knew he was the bad guy in this story.

Same. You don’t date that guy! You block him.

yup, A GIANT RED FLAG

That’s how my ex who ruined my mental health for a while got her hooks into me!

Right?? Whenever someone does that to me I get super creeped out. Even if they like a few of my pictures in a row I'm like.... Why.. why are u doing that

Why? I’m genuinely curious on why people think this a bad sign

@@valeriecarvajal2576 best way I can sum it up is: it’s a form of “love bombing” which is a manipulative tactic employed to get somebody to “love” you quicker. They’re trying to bypass the normal steps of falling in love because they’re either incapable or uninterested in pursuing it gradually at a pace both can work at with time to think.

I had a mother in law just like her

@@kit-kat5265 glad its "had" instead of have

That was cruel

Yup, that was 100% intentional

I have a mother in-law that did something like this to me 😂 whoever wants the tea lmk lol

Sis, I would HIGHKEY be offended.

Not related, but we have the same name :)

@@ggoat3892 that's not forgiving, that's just moving on.

Same

Id be fucking pissed.

She wanted to separate. He did not. Hence, what happened

Honestly since I watch these videos here plus 48 hours, I have to say that I’m happy to being single…

Psycho.

Omg , same 😞

I feel for both of her parents, seeing them talk about her was just heartbreaking 😢

@@mkchristner oh absolutely not taking anything away from the mother and I feel terrible for her too. It's just mentioned how the father had a bad gut feeling and that must be the worst thing as a parent to be proven right on that feeling

Jordannah Galea O sorry if it sounded like that, I actually see what you’re saying and totally agree! I just teared up and had a moment of empathy for them. It’s true, he definitely had his intuition on point with him!

If a guy likes all your photos then you know something up. Even from all 'family' photos of him I can feel something off. The dad was smart. I don't know if he should blame himself or not though

Trails & Travel I think it just really depends on the person and the situation. Whatever someone does to get through that kind of grief is fine by me. But... I have a hard time imagining I could forgive someone who took my child’s life.

Trails & Travel it’s brings peace to be honest Constantly thinking and hating someone will ruin you, when the daughter probably wouldn’t want it It’s not really about forgiving him, it’s just about letting go and moving on for yourself Don’t forgive people for them. It’s for your own peace and sanity

@Trails & Travel I'm not an expert, but I think that forgiving someone is the first step towards coming to terms with the horrible things that they did to you and learning to move on (although I don't know how you can move on from the murder of your child). Not everyone can bring themselves to forgive and the grief process is completely personal, but I think forgiveness, when it can be reached, is a healthier option than sterile hate, which certainly won't do anyone any good. I'm an atheist btw

Trails & Travel Forgiveness is very personal, and it doesn’t have to have anything to do with religion. For a lot of people, forgiveness brings freedom. It is more for the person who is doing the forgiving, rather than for the person who is being forgiven. Forgiveness does not mean that you forget what someone has done, it doesn’t mean you excuse their actions, and it doesn’t take away the pain; but it can lift the burden of hatred, and that can be a very powerful tool in the grieving process. It’s not at all “counter-intuitive”. I don’t know how I would respond to the brutal murder of a loved one, and I don’t know if I would be able to forgive someone for that, but I would hope with time that I would eventually find forgiveness. I still struggle with forgiving my abusive “father”, so I cannot even begin to fathom how difficult it would be to forgive someone for taking the life of the person I love most. Forgiveness does take strength, and to me that is respectable. That doesn’t mean that the families like Lauren’s are any less strong or any less respected. They are doing the best they can to navigate an unimaginably horrific situation while remaining strong enough to advocate for their daughter and keep her memory alive, and that is respectable too. Respecting one family for their ability to forgive, does not negate the the strength of or respect for families who don’t, they are both still respectable regardless of their journey through grief. Respect for one does not cancel out respect for the other.

I would never forgive them either I would carry that hate around and use it to prevent this from happening to someone elses family or prosecute other murderers. Murder of your family is something I could personally never forgive.

I know and for no reason at all. She was an Angel.

Lol then no one would be married.Stupid comment.

My mans family hates me (besides his mother, father, and his mothers side of the family) lololol. But they don’t like him and would rather him be back w his abusive toxic ex :-))

Depends on the dynamics, tbh. It took 5 kids and 15 years for my in-laws to at least stop calling me a gold digger to my face. But my grandma always told me "kill em with kindness, baby. Nobody likes an asshole." So basically just be kind and respectful to them and especially to my husband who is stuck in the middle. We're 23 years together this year and happier together now than we ever were before, because of all the crap we've been through. I think it's a matter of who they're more married to: you or their family.

Remember that you’re in the relationship and not your family, so do what makes you happy 🥰

ikr, I was like: Gurl, Hell no. Runn

I was just like, yeahhh I would’ve blocked him.......even if I had known him in the past.

RIGHT? As soon as she said that I was like. This is not going to end well

@@whatkaeread you were about to watch a true crime video that for sure wasn't going to end well

That was honestly the first red flag to me. If someone does this to you, you should block them immediately

Every boyfriend I’ve had that my dad said to stay away from became abusive.

Or your Mom if you dont have a dad!!

Parents just know...dont know how but we have that super power!!😉😉

ToddlerMommy 83 yea, mothers and fathers warn you about it. I agree ☝️

😂ALWAYS LISTEN TO YOUR ELDER WITH ADVICE SITTING ON A PORCH PEELING A APPLE WITH A KNIFE . I MISS MY DADS ADVICE

I doubt I could forgive. Imagine her pain being stabbed over 100 times!

I’m so sorry you had to deal with losing your sister like that. I lost my brother to addiction but it’s different than losing someone to murder. I can’t even imagine that. Bless your heart girl. Prayers and love.

i’m so sorry sweetie. my sister died a little over a year ago but like the other person said , i’m sure someone getting murdered you love is awful i can’t even imagine. you’re in my thoughts and prayers ❤️

I’m so sorry, she’s with you. ❤️

Thank you for your responses. ❤I do believe shes with me and always will be. ❤

I’m so sorry for your loss ❤️

Amen

Facts!! I try not to get jealous when I see that we a single woman because you just never know!!

!!!! if someone is always saying how “happy” they are.. chances are.. they aren’t happy at all. whenever i’m at my happiest i never, ever go around posting about how happy i am.

@@kendragreene5953 Same, we can't be jealous who knows what is going on. I'd rather be single than be abused

@@_sunchildd If people are truly happy, they're out living their lives. They're not posting on fb and Instagram trying to convince everyone how happy they are. Social media is a joke that really just contributes to people's unhappiness.

I am a person who tends to hold grudges and I don't personally find that hating some motherfucker negatively affects my existence lol (although to be fair I haven't experienced any wrongs or injuries as devastating as someone murdering one of my loved ones, knock on wood)

No you forgive for yourself not the other person.Its not healthy to live with hate in you.

I fully think that forgiveness means bugger all when someone's hurt you badly enough. You should forgive yourself and love yourself but some people aren't deserving of it.

@@lauraprosser5084 you don't have to forgive someone in order to not feel hate for them. T

Well done.

YESSS!!!!

I was just thinking about it!!! Something to look forward to 🙂

Yesssss

i’ve been thinking about this the whole month of august LMAO

is that a special kendall series??? (newish viewer here)

Lots of good people have failed marriages. It isn't always a red flag. My friends who are divorced are some of the more self-aware people I know and the ones who have gotten remarried are actually really good in their new relationship because they know how to avoid the things that cause their previous marriage to fail, and also many have been through counseling and are better off for it.

Eastman Editing I agree, but I think the red flag is the fact that she found out that her boyfriend was previously married in a game of 20 questions with her family.

“29 was too young to have had a failed marriage already” Well f@&$ me I guess 🤷🏼‍♀️

@@StylebyShea Yeah it's a red flag that SHE didn't know until then. True! I somehow missed that and thought that was just how her family found out, and in that case, I would say it wasn't too bad since a lot of "secrets" come out when people are feeling comfortable in a game.

😂😂😂😂

I noticed that too! It’s was so weird.

Really?

So sorry for them. This is horrific. A complete psychopath with no remorse

God bless you and them

Such a sad situation for that family.

@@Lizzyvallesrodriguez Yes we would have cookouts and such with them before they moved to North Carolina.

@Targon of Assad A victim???????????????????????

@Targon of Assad I agree God would want them to forgive him but he is no victim.

Forgiveness is not for him... Its for her parents to not allow that pig to hold any power over them... But yeah I couldn't do it... I have family who's been murdered and I hate the people that killed them and I just cant forgive... Like hell na fuck u

Don't feed the troll. That targon guy is replying to everyone's comments with ridiculous statements. He knows he's an idiot and is trying to get a reaction out of people.

Exactly. Forgiveness won’t bring Lauren back.

I am incredibly sorry for what happened to you. You are an extremely strong person for carrying on and I wish you only the best!

I found it almost impossible to forgive the man who failed my husband and caused his death. It was gross negligence and if he had been at his post instead of walking around arguing with his gf he would be alive and fathering his 3 children. It fostered and fostered. I ignored him at the funeral, at the court case and for years. It wasn't until I fully processed the grief that I finally came to terms with it. I then realized his grief and guilt must have been heavy. I couldn't imagine how hard it is to deal with knowing your stupid fight could have waited until my husband was safely down the pole. So I let go, I forgave but oh it was so hard to do and took me years. I am sorry for your loss and am glad you are finding your peace.

What an amazing story. Thank you for sharing this. I cannot even imagine how you've gotten through this. Your kids are blessed to have you as their mom.

I'm sorry for your loss. I'm glad you are strong for your family.

Wow, thank you for sharing this. I am so incredibly sorry for your loss. As an 18 year old whose dad passed away when I was 16, it means a lot to me that my mom is trying to stay strong and be a good parent. Sure, we fight, but my relationship with both of my parents mean so much to me. It’s irreplaceable. Your kids are lucky and I’m so glad to hear that you’re doing better now❤️ I’m sure they really appreciate how much love and support you give them. I know I do :)

It just makes me sick to my stomach. This poor beautiful girl and her family.

The only bright side of murder is that no one can take your soul.

Penelope Phelange Wtf is wrong with you?! You disgust me, there’s only one path to heaven and your not on it.

Penelope Phelange good luck

@@hannahw1683 Heaven & Hell aren't real stupid.

There are a lot of people who believe in the Bible and Jesus who are not christlike. He's a Christian is he believes it regardless if he is a good one or not

@@piperarcher9706 Jesus says you'll know a Christian by their fruit. You can have all the head knowledge and say the right things, but if you don't surrender your will to His, you're not a follower of Christ...aka Christian.

@@piperarcher9706 exactly. The "not a real Christian" stuff is the No True Scotsman fallacy. You just described it perfectly.

Narcissist pretend to be people they admire for certain qualities because their soul is too dark and twisted to actually be a person with admirable qualities. They do this to blend in with normal, decent folk. He was doing what narcs do.

@@Tamara-ju3lh To the contrary, saying someone isn’t a Christian is _not_ analogous to the Scotsman fallacy. Ultimately, there is a standard of conduct for followers of Christ outlined in the New Testament. Logically, if someone’s lifestyle or actions don’t line up with this standard, they can be effectively written off as non-Christians.

Lmfaoooo

i legit was gonna comment this 😂

Hahaha I totally laughed at that part too. I love it!

He definitely has the crazy eyes

I really laughed at this too!

Targon of Assad “might”

Targon of Assad So what even though I am not homophobic Lauren seems like a sweet girl

@Targon of Assad yikes, imagine hearing about someone being murderer and this is your first thought.

@@j8246 No, it's simply a more rational response to a naive comment. Looks have nothing to do with someone being a good person or not. Comments like those of the first poster make my eyes roll and insides cringe, tragedy or not.

Ehh. Not quite. If there’s anything these true crimes have taught me it’s that you can never judge a person based off of looks or pictures. There’s so many beautiful/handsome people out there with seemingly happy lives who end up being absolutely disgusting evil people.

I wonder why she didn’t like her from the start. That’s very strange.

Unforgiveness is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die. It hurts you more than them.

@@stephaniehowe997 hmm nah. If someone did that to one of my famiily members I stand firm in owing that person NOTHING. It's not that I would be expecting my non-forgiveness to hurt the other person (probably wouldn't affect them at all) but we are in no way obligated to fully come to a place of peace and forgiveness after a situation so traumatic. We will often just learn ways to cope with the pain. Nice quote though...

@@stolenart9290 Simmer down mate, no need to be a rude prick. “Let’s learn” to show compassion. Not everybody feels the same about things and that’s okay. You don’t need to be horrible because somebody is different.

@@Laura-pn9eo I agree with you though, I would never be able to forgive someone that did something like this. And that doesn’t speak on anything of me. If someone ripped someone or something from my life, I would find other ways to come to peace, not inclusive to forgiving a POS that decided to play God and take someone’s life.

@@Laura-pn9eo that’s a quote from Nelson Mandela. We can’t forgive by ourselves whatsoever. But I’ve seen first hand after a friend was murdered and her family said they forgave the killer, the peace they had despite still being in so much pain.

I heard people that lost loved ones you almost have to so they can move on,. Def would need a close relationship with God

Especially when you trusted that person and let them into your family. This is the ultimate betrayal.😞

Marsha Rowaihy I’m not a forgiving person so I wouldn’t move on from that I guess. Like I’d be able to live my life but I’d always have that void and always have hate for that person. It’s just such a sad situation

I'd like to think the people can't forgive themselves for it either. I can't and my situation was more of an agreement to turn off life support and I still hate myself for basically giving someone permission to kill my son.

Marsha Rowaihy was bb.

Right?! That's creepy as hell!

Exactly it’s just weird!

me who likes everything on a new friend’s instagram: 👁👄👁

@@deenas.6064 dw your not weird...

Thank you! That was my first thought as well when she mentioned that! No way! 😖😬

Absolutely. It’s a form of victim blaming. It’s 100% possible to move forward with a healthy and happy life without having to forgive the person who wronged you. It should never be shifted to the victim to be obligated to forgive. They don’t owe anyone anything.

Agreed

Thank you! I say this all the time. You do not owe anyone forgiveness, I praise that her parents refuse to give him that.

10000%

I agree, I’m glad I’m unforgiving of people who’ve wronged me.

Most previous spouses would not agree to lunch thougu

True

I wouldn’t want to meet with x partners, why? Why would I bother? It doesn’t benefit me in anyway but just bring up old memories. I’ve moved on, let it be. Just my opinion.

@@chanellover9256 if not agree just hire a PI

Idk though. What if the previous spouse is toxic? Their toxicity & negativity could make you miss out on a good relationship

It's a bad a$$ shirt

I dont understand how this comments likes are so low . Because this comment is spitting facts

ikr that's what i first noticed 🧿👄🧿

she's so freakin pretty!!!

It definitely does! She’s stunning

I always block people who do this because it’s so fucking weird!!!

Exactly! That's not cute at all. An immediate 'No' for me.

I really wish she’d spotted that red flag, poor Lauren 😔

The ones who start a convo after accepting their friend requests…it’s why I have a no men policy on Facebook…one guy got creepy

Lol I said the exact same thing!

Yes the part about her holding her own hair! That was hard to hear

@@penelopephelange What the fuck is wrong with you? Trolls like you disgust me.

@@penelopephelange you are the devil

@@claudiabingham4929 Ever heard of not feeding the troll? Just ignore it, they are just baiting you to get a reaction.

@@claudiabingham4929 Report em too.

The dispatcher was pissed... but professional lol

i couldn’t imagine being a dispatcher i would NOT be able to keep my cool

It’s true 🤷🏽‍♀️😭

I agree but you legally can't give consent to sex while on drugs.....so .

@@robbiejohnston9409 that’s because other people can influence you and force you into having sex when you’re inebriated when you might not want to do that if you were sober. Absolutely different from murder or drunk driving. One is something you decide to do on your own, the other is something that requires another person to willingly take part. Not to mention you can still be convicted of rape if you were drunk when you forced yourself on someone.

@@bellablue7661 but if you drink, you decided to do that didn't you? You knew it would make you inebriated and your decision making bad right? No one forced you to drink 🤷‍♂️

@@bellablue7661 It is rare to be convicted of rape while drunk, very rare. Most often in my law studies, cases have been tossed, ended in acquittals or similar because you don't have enough physical evidence to prove it wasn't consensual when you only have one person's story. It does happen, but being drunk does count as not being in your right mind in the eyes of the law and is used as a defense of many things. Driving drunk is different because people can obviously tell you were driving, test your blood and know that you never should have grabbed the keys. Arguing consent is much harder. As for his cough medicine defense, it works sometimes, depending on the situation. Yes, he chose to use saidsubstance, but when we are talking addictive substances, the law has some laxness in regards to fault. There are cases of users of other drugs (probably codeine too) being let go in favor of seeking rehab/therapy.

Drinking and driving is wrong and everyone knows that but no one is told not to take cough medicine and sleep. Regardless, it wasn’t the cough medicine, it was him.

I think his payout was the experience itself. Sick and sad but it checks out with how he lived the rest of his life with the need of instant gratification without a thought towards the fallout :/

People on a lot of these cases don't seem to be able to think past the next 5 minutes.

i’m not saying this is a reason but he shows a lot of the signs of someone with borderline personality disorder such as the drugs, the constant changing jobs and the excessive spending

@@aubrypenton9230 😫 dang it. He really does. Self medicating. Sleep problems. Emotional/mental abuse. Impulse control, spending problems. Cheating, risky behavior.

He got the idea from the movie Side Effects. If you watch the movie you will see.

Thank you

Definitely , I’ve seen so many videos were the operator is a d!ck lol

Foreal

@@elliottg2322 are you the actual operator? i notice one of the only 5 videos on your "important moments" playlist is a news story around this case

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

U do it on an empty stomach youll have a bad sickly trip. Ur ex husband was prolly a dumbass and did so

I... is he okay?

In high school, I used to take the entire box of the exact medication matt took. Coricidin Cough & Cold. And OMG does it mess you up. Time overlaps and you think you’re in other dimensions, and you have no clue where you are or that you’re even human. At least, that was my experience, the like… Idk… 25-30x I did it. Went to the hospital 3x for it to have charcoal pumped into my stomach. But I will say when we were that messed up, there’s no way we could have had the strength or coordination to take on another adult in a violent altercation and stab them multiple times. We used to lay down on benches at the bus terminal and just sort of walk around dazed, unsure how to get on the bus again lol.

Am a pharmacist and I can assure you people metabolise drugs totally different it’s totally depend on genetic make up of the person which can’t be similar to any other person on the planet . Some people they don’t even experience anything because the drug goes in and out very fast

What the hell do they put in a cold bottle where yous come from . I know in Africa they use it to get high ,but where am from there nothing strong in them free health care so maybe that,s why

Wow, that's ...I have no words actually

Wow, now that you mention it, that detail from the movie kinda makes it obvious. He was a creepy, obsessed fanboy and this poor woman lost her life because of it. How unfair, and how *absolutely pathetic* of him to want to emulate that character, wtf...

This is kinda like Luca magnotta

she could barely speak :( choking up so much my heart goes out to her, her daughter and the rest of the family

I know it broke me. As a mother, I could not imagine someone taking my baby away in such a hateful way.

Your brother probably got to meet your baby's spirit in heaven before you met your baby. Wishing you and your family peace.

I’m so sorry that happened to you. You’re very strong. I hope you and your baby are doing well. Honestly I don’t think being religious or not has much to do with it, as my family and I are quite religious and can never forgive the monster.

Sorry for your loss- I hope you are able to forgive someday and find peace. If you can’t that is ok too. Blessings

Anger can do a lot, but I hope the rest of your life contains more happiness, even if not forgiveness. I am sorry you lost your brother.

😢 I'm so sorry. You don't have to forgive them, look after yourself and live the life your brother would want for you. x

Mikaila Cullihall Morbid podcast did an episode about that. It’s such a horrendous story.

WOW I hope she does cover that . That's sounds realy interesting. and creepy

oh i hope she covers it

This would be perfect for Freak Week!!

@@fintanjbrennan9965 can you leave the link for that podcast?

I agree! Some of the 911 operators in Kendall’s videos are shockingly inept and awful, even to the victims! This guy was wonderful!

Yes he was great! Unlike most of the others.

He did handle it really well

He was good as were all of the officers and DA employee's who worked with our Family. I can not say enough good things about our team that were kind, patient, caring and worked hard to make sure Matt had no options.

@@bethagner2334 Sorry for your loss, Lauren seemed like a very beautiful woman. ❤️

Hope she does a update!

OH MY GOD FINALLY

OMG yes ! finally

I think she did!

Oh damn!

@Anny's World good.

Pretty sure they were the shirts that said Lauren’s Light

I would think a big FU too

@@Joannefibracs9994 yeah. They were the "Lauren's Light" shirts....but her family had them made which means they got to choose to have those shirts made in any colour. They choose blue. So yes they are wearing those shirts for Lauren, but I do believe the part about making them in the colour blue was a "fuck you" to his crazy family. His mother told Lauren she needed to wear blue for the family photo shoot. In reality the women all had to wear white and the men were wearing blue. So it was a way to make Lauren understand that she didn't consider Lauren a part of her family and didn't want her to be married to her son.

It was honestly just the color that was there with the company we got them from. We got them in several colors but blue was the cheapest in bulk for whatever reason. I do like the FU part though to his mom. She was (and may still be) a jerk.

Omg

And his fav song is “hip to be square” by Huey Louis and the News

Didn't he tell the 911 operator that he was covered in blood?

@@roserollins9800 He said that there was "so much blood" and that he too scared to go near her. He never said there was blood on him.

@@lisazdvoru1660 11:20 he says “I have blood all over me”

You know the mom could have been in on this, since he allowed her to treat his wife like dirt.

Omg yes

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Right! It almost sounded like he was yawning. What a sicko

Side note..We’re both of there voices deep?thought it was a voice editor

I know the feeling 😂

@@Cristina-wt3sr just finished watching Janelle and Kendalls sesh podcast and now straight after i have this to watch😁 great stuff check it out if you havent already x

Same !!

SAME

SAME

Yes indeed

I'm stupid.. Why?

@@prettypumpkin6891 there’s no shame in not knowing Star Wars lore. Red is the color of the light sabers that the bad guys use; most notably Darth Vader.

I don’t think that says anything, at all. If you’re a true fan, you understand why Darth Vader is a “bad guy”.

@@caitsk4te Not a "true fan" of jokes, are you?

😂😂😂I shouldn't laugh but the,, except for mum,, comment was hilarious, I felt that 😂😂Because that's something that mum's would do, definitely my mum did it, of i post a photo of my finger she would like that 😂😂So your spot on, only mum's are excused, the rest, freaking weirdos.

Yep! That!

Yep! My grandma is the sort of person who will go to each individual picture in a post and like it, and she is the ONLY one allowed to do that.

Hahahaha, your Mom discovering the internet 🤣. You are absolutely right about the red flag.

Right! I allowed a guy to follow me on Insta, he did that exact same thing. Instant block. I was so creeped out when I seen all the notifications.

You think maybe he killed her, then took the cough syrup, slept then woke up and called 911?

I hope your recovery goes well! It’s a huge step, and I hope you know that you’ve made a lot of people proud :)

True took it several times . This doesn’t doesn’t make sense

Same here. I, too, am a recovering heroin addict who used to take DXM. Maybe we should meet up and murder each other, haha. Sorry, the joke was too available, although, I’m serious about my past. Same situation. Took me 20 years and moving to England to get off opiates. DXM is horrifying, though. I never understood why I used to take drugs I don’t even like. The only thing I liked about it was that it made music sound great.

@@angelrain7618 Ooh, very, VERY possible. Makes sense. Nice theory, didn’t think if that’s

He tried to warn her and she was in the love bubble. I've told both of my kids to never tell someone you're breaking up with them, just wait until you can safely leave and do it (no warning for potential murderers). They each know they will be supported financially until the get back on their feet (they won't be in our house either so they can't be found). I even told my sister she could use one of our empty apartments if her new boyfriend - who she moved in with after knowing him a week- ever scared her. They just need to not go back. SO many people go back, or are conned into a "goodbye meeting" and get killed.

I was in an abusive relationship. My grandmother couldnt stand the guy and didnt trust him. She had a bad vibe and thought he was a bad guy from the start, but she never said a word. She kept it to herself and always acted polite around him. After I left him and everything came out she told me how she had felt about him and my mom asked her why she never said anything and in her words she said "it wasn't my place to tell her who to love" my grandmother did feel guilty for not voicing her opinion earlier. I told her if she had told me I would have left him because I felt weird about him too but everyone seemed to love him so I thought I was just crazy, if I had one person share my feelings I might have believed my own instinct. My grandmother felt guilty but I told her it wasnt her fault. So I can understand why her father felt that way. If he had been more vocal about not liking him maybe his daughter wouldnt have married him and maybe would still be alive. Guilt is a powerful thing.

Same 🥰

Same!

Lol. In in the uk. Nearing 2am here.

I hope you ladies have a good night & a good week😀❤

Louise Ward I’m in the UK too!

I couldn’t help but notice there were no tears. I’m NOT judging, just an observation. Did i just not see them?

@@ruthkobes2114 I was looking for someone else who observed this.

@@mariastafford1216 a time comes when your tears dry up :( from the constant crying

@@ruthkobes2114 Her tears could’ve just been gone. When my grandmother died I cried so much I couldn’t do it at her funeral, because I had been crying so much the entire day. I was in pain and my body went through the motions but I simply didn’t have enough tears to cry anymore. It’s common with grief. Especially when it’s sudden and unexpected.