See the chaotic border changes and wars in Central Europe as Austria-Hungary collapsed. Includes the Hungarian-Romanian War, Polish-Czechoslovakian War, and the many border changes between 1918 and 1921.
I'm currently researching the interwar period, and i'm starting off with the fall of the four empires, is there any resources you would recommend about the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian Empire?
CinnamonGamer the allies control in my game the balkans and greece despite greece fighting along the allies, now greece only controls an island and then there is poland which is a puppet of romania but is also in the allies despite that romania is not and tgen there is also the mess that poland had to release ukraine and belarus, meaning the democratic germany that joined the allies can't attack the soviets and has to fight tgrough the entire middle east and up the caucausus and central asia to enter the USSR.
1:06 What should Hungary do against a 3-front invasion? a) Set in favorable terrain and defend b) Set a defence around their capital c) Ask the Entente for help >(d)< INVADE SLOVAKIA REEEEEE
The Entente had forbade Hungary from moving troops to the areas occupied by Serbia and Romania, rendering both reconquest and defense infeasible. Romania took the opportunity to march basically uncontested straight to the capital. The hungarian government had envisioned that some kind of military success was still necessary, this is why they launched a pointless attack against the lightly defended Slovakia. All this was not part of the Entente's plan, so later they showed up and reassigned the territories according to their linking.
The islamic conquest of the parts of the roman empire, right up to toulouse and vienna seems to be hard to be remembered. When Rome crumbled, the bread basket (egypt) and many religious sites were conquered in a rather fast rate, shocking christianity at the time.
They are mentioned in middle school history books though. Very small mention. Literally just saying that the First World War led to the collapse of the three multi-ethnic empires: Russia, Ottomans and Austria-Hungary. That's all I've learned at least. I guess it depends where you live. I am pretty sure ex-Yugoslavs, Romanians, Hungarians and other people groups that were affected in the past by these events are taught about them in school. Mostly because the system wants them to learn about their country's past and possibly learn from its mistakes.
Andrew Vasirov yeah they always say that they collapsed but never go into detail of the other treaties of WW1. They only delve into the Treaty of Versailles and how the Europeans cheated the Arabs.
Lewis Irwin Techniaclly you can say that Austria was a participant in the Second World War with their annexation and Hitlers nationality. Hungary as well was a player on the eastern front. The collapse of the Ottomans meanwhile lead to the foundation of Turkey, the Armenian Genocide, and a lasting impact on the Middle East. Clearly they are important to study.
You're missing the Sopron Plebstice of December 1921, when a major Hungarian city ceded to Austria voted to return to Hungary. Your map already shows Sopron as part of Hungary after the signing of Trianon, even though (on paper) it was under Austran control between June 1920 and December 1921.
Idiot, Franz died in 1916 so he didn't die with the empire. Also Austria Hungary was gonna die any way because it had a lot of slovaks, Serbian, Bosnian and more who all wanted their independence.
@@ab.6573 well Ferdinand d'Este wanted to reform the Empire... if they would not shoot him he would reform the Empire into some kind of Federation and maybe it would survive in some form..
@@ab.6573 Go place your "austria only collapse..nationalism" somewhere else. If that was truely the case Austria would have collapsed years ago. No. Most people of the empires were content besides extremist nationalists,and the fact that the Croats,Czechs and Hungarians stood woth the empire until it’s fall shows there were lotal ethnics
Watching this from Budapest. I have this theory that, to this day, Hungarians are a bit depressed because of Trianon. That's probably why they drink so much
Could Be Anybody Because it kept peace in the balkans,and for the most part it was stable,altleast the austrian side. Hungary never deserved so much land,but a federalized austria would’ve.
Read Margaret McMillan's 'The Peacemakers', it deals with with the Peace talks both chronologically and by geographical area. The whole thing was a fiasco, didn't really reflect well on the Western Powers at all.
I don't know if you are hungarian or not but the communist government that tried to rule then destroyed hungary by going to war with all of this nations at once
One interesting oddity not shown on the map (because it was so small) was the city of Fiume, which was established as an independent state by a Italian poet who intended to turn the territory over to Italy. After his condemnation by the Italian government, he ruled it as a proto fascist state until the city was put under siege and bombarded by the Italian navy in December 1920. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriele_D%27Annunzio#Fiume
@@iwillsalt3459 Transylvania is pure sacred Romanian land. Its ancestors, the Dacians have being there centuries before the Hungarians, the Hungarians weren't even the tenth in Transylvania. While they were trying to cross the Ural Mountains the Romans came along, the Bulgarians, Cumans etc. Demographicaly, Transylvania is Romanian. Great Hungary was 48,1% Hungarian in 1900, while Great Romania was 83,8% in 1927 you see.
@@saulenfischbearn7470 Yes, true, I can't hide the fact that the region mentioned has a Hungarian majority. Though there is a problem. Teaching the population Hungarian when they are in Romania is wrong, they should be allowed to speak their language between them, but the communication in hospitals, schools, or with the police and other public stuff should be in the national and official language. The Hungarian majority is also well-known for not serving anything at a shop because you spoke Romanian in Romania. Another problem is public signs, everything is also written below in Hungarian, anywhere where there is a 20% Hungarian population (alright, I understand, somewhere where Hungarians are majority, but in places like Hunedoara or Oradea, to have Hungarian translation on every public sign is exagerated, they don't even represent 25% of the population) ...Well weren't they the people who said they ruled over Transylvania for nine centuries, even if for some time they were conquered by the Austrians until 1867... They didn't wrote in Romanian below, even if it had in some places a total majority. They didn't give permission to teach Romanian in school... So...Yeah...I thought we were in Romania, they have citizenship, every single Hungarian in szeklerland has Romanian citizenship. They should be able to speak Romanian and shouldn't need translation on every sign.
@@Medvelelet you dont know how you almost destroyed their culture and language? You tried to do that exactly same like austrians tried to germanise us(im Czech)
@@hannibalbarca7220 thanks for corrections, i thought that because hungarians often say that they are descedants of huns, some even say that they are turkic(probably very few hungarians)
@@afdalridwan3813 They didn't, the French intervened to avoid a conflict between them and romania, then Banat was divided between the serbs, romania and hungary.
Was it so bad thoe? It only was probably the ultimate reason for the NSDAP getting unlimited power due to the germans felt discriminated, national selfgovernmence applied to all nationalities except germans following the Versailles-treaty (basicly). It also would also force 3 million Sudeten-germans fleeing or getting expelled from their homes after ww2, and also many germans in Süd-Tirol, Kanalthal and northern slovakia.
Sander Skovly Germans weren't expelled from South Tyrol. And after World War II they were treated very well by the government, to the point where South Tyrol had the highest GDP per capita in Italy.
No, they weren't expelled, but many was offered land in Poland by Hitler during ww2 and the italians weren't too hapy with having them back, cuz they also had to take in Italians expelled from Albania and Yugoslavia and colonist moving from Libya and Eritrea. Which, together with italinification, both during Mussolini and after, is the main cause the german population there has shrinked. Also, the reason South Tirol is becuz it is in the north. It has industry, a great amount of tourism (as do other parts of Italy) and doesn't have to deal as much with Mafia, it was also relatively spared from the fighting during ww2 and was historical under Austria, Austria was really a sick man before ww1, but their economy was still better than the Italians'.
Sander Skovly I'd argue with the reason that South Tyrol is richer is that it is part of a Special Statute Region, so they pay less taxes and other things. Interestingly, both Italy and Austria had the same problem, industry-wise, it was concentrated in a specific part of the country, the North in Italy and Austria proper and Bohemia in Austria, with the rest of both countries being more agriculture-based. Also, didn't know pre-WW1 South Tyrol had much industry, though it would be kind of hard to build, considering it's on the Alps.
I really love this video!!! This is something I was really interested in but also really confused about what actually happened. I really appreciate this
wow, i had literally no idea that the breakup of austria-hungary was so chaotic (in retrospect, it should have been obvious, it is the balkans). i was very surprised that hungary was socialist
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Fantastic work, I'll reference it for my future videos :D
As a Slovenian I see two mistakes here: 1. The state of SHS stands for State of Slovene, Croats and Serbs, after merging with Serbia we took the name Kingdom of SHS and then the SHS stood for Serbs, Croats and Slovenes. 2. There were missing occupations of Austria in late 1918 (Maribor and loverly styria) and may on parts of the disputed territory of Carinthia
I watch these videos and I think they're so cool seeing the conquests of nations and dominant emperors. But I take for granted that for every territorial change, a son was killed, a daughter was raped. Let's never forget that life should never be taken for granted.
For stability, there was a high percentage of Germans in Czechia and of Hungarians in Slovakia. A ``Czechoslovakian`` country was a good solution, Slovaks weren't against this union as there wasn't a true Slovak identity yet and Germans and Hungarians communities were much smaller in this new country, preserving it from a secession. Sadly Hitler came and we know what happened.
There was also a theory at the time that nations of under 8 milion just could not survive. This sparked many movments to form larger slavic nations. Czechoslovakia worked out far better than the other one; Yugoslavia (That idea was critisied even at that time).
I think yugoslavia is a great idea. It should exist today as well. Croatian, Bosnian and Serbian languages are identical. Religoius differences should matter. Look at Germany. The bavarian dialect and hamburger dialect are radically different even morethan croatian and serbian. Protestants in the north, catholics in the south. Yet a single country for all germans is a succes story! why not for south-western slavs? It should have worked.
I believe Ivan Cankar the slovene writter said it best in 1917. " We are brothers by blood, cousins by language (he was a slovene), and complete strangers by history." All south slavs never shared a common state and 500 years of Ottoman rule in the south and Habsburg rule in the North created a massive cultural devide. Germans had a common state for most of their history (HRE and the german confederation). While the HRE was never as unified as France or Russia it was still common ground. It is not about language or religion. It is about history and culture. I belive a slovene-croatian union would have worked as well as Czecho-slovakia, and a southern Greater Serbia with Montenegro and Bosnia could have worked better. But by history it made more sense for Slovenia to be a part of Austria, than to be in a country with serbia.
How do you go about finding accurate day-to-day sources for all these seemingly obscure wars over the years?I searched for many of them yet could not find anything detailing frontline movements on even a weekly,let alone a daily basis.
Some of my ancestors are from western Ukraine, around Lviv. My great-great-grandfather knew he would be conscripted by someone, he just wanted to know which army it would be, and that was why he left.
So... Why isn't D'Annunzio's adventure saluti in Fiume/Rijeka represented? It was a pretty important event for both Italy and Europe. And D'Annunzio is also a pretty interesting character.
You missed the existence of Zakopane republic (Rzeczpospolita Zakopiańska)which was located between Poland and Slovakia (part of Czechoslovakia) and existed from 13th october to 16 th november (for 35 days) and soonly after Poland was formed it became annexed by it
Exactly, you cannot see deported people from Hungary in our history of the thousand year. Every Hungarian family were concerned in this. And we have got it from ... I can only see flags with the same colours... but, but Hungarian-speaking nations, where are they? Székelys Csángós. Why their numbers are reduced? I was only six, when my grandmother took us to our relatives to Csallóköz (Slovakia now) and there everybody understood our language, and they warned me: "Please, you should not use the Hungarian language outside in for example in the markets!..." Why? -I asked. They did not want problems... - in 1978. One, who, do not feel or can not feel this here, it is only a red internationalist.
Is there any sort of tutorial for making such a video? Something like this would make a cool extra credit presentation in my social studies class so I was just wondering.
Austria-Hungary was not a country. It was an empire. They occupied neighboring countries for centuries. Those populations never asked to be occupied. It's like an Indian today would say: My grandparents were from England, weird they came from a country that doesn't exist anymore. What country?!?
@@m.dewylde5287 holy crap this comment is almost 2 years old, do you have nothing better to do with your time? Well I edited my comment to appease you anyway.
@@jdftrains3507 So, aren't you curios what country they did come from? Austria, Hungary, Croatia, Slovenia, Czechia, Slovakia, Romania, Ukraine? These were all in the empire that you called a country and a state, which was neither.
@@m.dewylde5287 I already know where they are from because of my mothers maiden name, and the word state can be used to describe any sovereign land regardless of location and government. For example "Narrowly defined, an empire is a sovereign state whose head of state is an emperor" ~from Wikipedia
Who would win? A great and powerful empire Some slavic boi's Yes i know romanians and italians are not slavic if i include all of them it wont be as funny, to many butthurt people.....
Mervan _Canoglu Slavic boys here: -Serbs -Montenegrians Not slavic: -Italians -Romanians I wrote the people who fought against A-H, Czech and polish didn't do an amazing job
On 24 November 1918 Srem/Srijem separated from DSHS and connected with Serbia. PS Thanks for video. I was thinking about similiar (from Armistice of Bulgaria to 31 XII 1918) watching your World War I just 3 days ago :)
I was always under the impression that the Sudetenland was kind of manufactured by the Nazis for a casus belli to invade. Interesting to see it was added onto Czechoslovakia after the country was formed.
