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The comic begging business model 

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@otakubullfrog1665
@otakubullfrog1665 21 день назад
When you've been e-begging for years, what you need to understand is that what you have is a hobby rather than a job.
@genreartwithjb5095
@genreartwithjb5095 20 дней назад
Sure but that’s why they are begging. Because the publisher is treating it like a hobby. They want adult sized results but they will pay a child sized check.
@Eyrrll
@Eyrrll 21 день назад
I worked in an industry for years that used POC for “Point of contact”
@AL-ws5yi
@AL-ws5yi 21 день назад
I don’t like being called a POC. I’m Asian and I remember using the term “yellow “ to describe me was considered a no-no.
@JP-1990
@JP-1990 21 день назад
Yeah but your PFP is Pikachu! What else are we supposed to call you? 😅
@MinPhase
@MinPhase 21 день назад
Me neither. When I was house hunting once, I saw an ad which said "this house has POCs" and it made me angry. It was an instant no from me. How does the color of your roommate's skin matter at all? If they're from a different country, then just mention that. At least that tells one that there might be cultural differences. In fact, I'd rather be called a foreigner than a POC, even though I've been living in the US for a while now.
@AL-ws5yi
@AL-ws5yi 21 день назад
@@JP-1990Haha, don’t worry. I’m ok with being called yellow because I just happen to like that color but it’s because I like the color not because it’s my actual skin color (which makes it sound like I have jaundice or something).
@JP-1990
@JP-1990 21 день назад
@@AL-ws5yi Yeah I always found it peculiar to refer to East Asian people (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc) as PoC when their defining racial characteristic is their eyelids.
@brettjansen8053
@brettjansen8053 21 день назад
"He rambles." That's a feature not a flaw.
@mietha37
@mietha37 21 день назад
Now that’s not fair. Valiant did get a Hollywood deal. Bloodshot actually got made. It released. It bombed. They went out of business. But they did get the Hollywood deal. Edit: Sean Murphy’s Zorro absolutely does not appeal to fans of Zorro.
@alcoyot
@alcoyot 21 день назад
Remember that guy in Europe who begged for money for an emergency but then bought tickets to Hamilton.
@MerlinTheCommenter
@MerlinTheCommenter 19 дней назад
I remember him: Sandwiche Boy.
@StoryboardsbyStuffPOP
@StoryboardsbyStuffPOP 17 дней назад
My exposure to Patreon when it first came out was that supporters would be an “artist’s patron.” It was a donation to keep the creator able to continue doing what they do. The subscription and premium content model caught on later. And nowadays it’s highly seen as a stable supplement to traditional ad sales.
@AL-ws5yi
@AL-ws5yi 21 день назад
I can’t ever imagine going out and asking strangers for money for anything. My parents taught me to find a way to earn it, even if it means washing dishes to make it.
@ElderRaceofMan
@ElderRaceofMan 21 день назад
The people he mentioned should not have even been hired by the big 2 in the first place. There are numerous legit legends who were looked over and let go for being too old and white and male. Guys with actual talent and a track record, and who worked their way up through the ranks over many years through hard work. The fact that that these weirdos got hired and still continue to get any major work at all is unfair to those more qualified people. and gave a false sense of value to the people who are now e-begging.
@mrwednesdaynight
@mrwednesdaynight 20 дней назад
I don't know how Marvel and DC aren't embarrassed that their superstar creators of color and members of the 2SLBGTQIAAP+ community have to beg for rent money month after month.
@StoryboardsbyStuffPOP
@StoryboardsbyStuffPOP 17 дней назад
Even though the appeals are public, I have to imagine that these writers have specific people in mind they’re *really* asking. Like with Mags, I think it was Scott Snyder, maybe SGM for a period.
@Amelia_PC
@Amelia_PC 20 дней назад
Listening to it, I thought just one thing: "Kickstarter for a proof of concept (MVP + building basic audience), then partner with a big publisher (Dark Horse, Image, etc) and expand the IP in a possible volume 2. Focus on making money through merchandise as the IP expands, rather than relying solely on comics."
@SinopaPublishingSince2017
@SinopaPublishingSince2017 21 день назад
speaking of shitty page rates at a pair of large comic publishers... was on stream last night talking with artists and a few other folks who make comics and stories were shared of turning down those two big companies because of said page rates. Artists citing that small press, indie, crowdfunding creators are paying better (at least their clients anyway). Wild
@ascorvinus
@ascorvinus 21 день назад
If they’re offering such low page rates for artists, imagine how little the writers get.
@SinopaPublishingSince2017
@SinopaPublishingSince2017 21 день назад
@@ascorvinus I know, right
@Superpooch97
@Superpooch97 21 день назад
What stream was that if I don’t mind asking? I want to check it out
@SinopaPublishingSince2017
@SinopaPublishingSince2017 21 день назад
@@Superpooch97 I was on with Nyobi comics. I think the discussion portion we had live is right around the 1 hour 30 mark. It has come up on other streams too. Shikarii had made mention of some artists that don't want to work for the big two due to page rates (down in the chat) but most of us that were on have heard the same from the aritsts we work with. Link (if it will attach) ru-vid.com7-joc5GjSYM?si=fECQFMtt_4bIpu0K
@Superpooch97
@Superpooch97 21 день назад
@@SinopaPublishingSince2017 awesome! I will definitely check it out. Thanks!
@mrwednesdaynight
@mrwednesdaynight 20 дней назад
Here is an idea. Get a PO Box in Manhattan and in the event that you get a meeting with Hollywood people, get a WeWork location in Manhattan for the week. In the meanwhile work out of New Jersey or Pennsylvania so you're close enough to NYC that you can be there if you need to be. Seems like a better investment than renting an office in Manhattan.
@davidgantenbein9362
@davidgantenbein9362 21 день назад
A comment like „he rambles and goes all over the place“ isn’t a criticism, it’s just a very clear and concise description of the channel. Print it on a Comics by Perch shirt and people would buy it.
@adamfrey4920
@adamfrey4920 21 день назад
I'll take ten.
@genreartwithjb5095
@genreartwithjb5095 20 дней назад
I mean when you have publishers that are super cheap and telling creators things like “ get a day job” or “I’m not going to fund your lifestyle “ this is what you get. The point of a job is to make enough money to survive. If you aren’t making it at that job there is not point in working for that company so if a creator hits a publisher up or needs to crowd source fans for more money that’s their prerogative. You shouldn’t have to work a day job if the publisher is worth their salt. This idea that you need to pay your dues and slave away for nothing for years before getting paid a living wage is just insane and it’s pure gaslighting.
@starquack
@starquack 21 день назад
I learn the most during your ramblings.
@genreartwithjb5095
@genreartwithjb5095 20 дней назад
You can’t pay artists and writers child size paychecks and expect them to act like adults. You get what you pay for. In order for someone to be and adult they need to be pulling down an adult sized check.
@Firevine
@Firevine 21 день назад
"Please gibs money. I'm a xe/xir/Plymouth Valiant and rent is due and I don't know what to do" Have you tried getting a job?
@kingVibe111
@kingVibe111 21 день назад
I feel like I was in a great position as I was subscribed to Wired at one time and was able to see the logic for all these things laid out. They mentioned the inherent “wisdom in crowds” and how tech was “democratizing” and the scenario was described in which things would just work out once enough people were linked together that we could turn all these people linked together into something of value. Yet in recent years I haven’t really seen much of a change to the incentives surrounding comic book creators. The money in the industry seems to just get worse, people should do anything besides just work for the big two. Obviously the future foretold in Wired was just half the truth. I feel for creative people dealing with this stuff but the real culture war has always been between haves and have-nots and so many people made themselves useful bashing other have-nots hoping the haves would help them out. Turns out they were the real class traitors this whole time.
@StoryboardsbyStuffPOP
@StoryboardsbyStuffPOP 17 дней назад
I think RU-vid likes the new thumbnails. I’m getting your videos promoted again after, like, 2 years of them never showing up in my feed.
@billyhills9933
@billyhills9933 21 день назад
If shambolic is derived from the word shambles, could this vid be called rambolic?
@adamfrey4920
@adamfrey4920 21 день назад
Muppet Mumbles: "The begging method doesn't work." Muppet Drew: "No?" Muppet Mumbles: "No, I've been begging Perch to pull the plug for years!" Both: "Doh ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho!"
@zinncomicsandart8811
@zinncomicsandart8811 21 день назад
Pray tell what has Capperneck done that wasn't a huge waste of time ?
@JDPetty0990
@JDPetty0990 21 день назад
The thumbnail is what happens when Linkara doesn't give History of Power Rangers a set schedule and the royalties start drying up.
@SchweitzerMan
@SchweitzerMan 21 день назад
It'll be out when it's out!
@Superpooch97
@Superpooch97 21 день назад
Don’t worry he’s linkara he remembers it so you don’t have too. Shit wrong creator.
@Superpooch97
@Superpooch97 21 день назад
@@SchweitzerManonly plays says hi.
@JDPetty0990
@JDPetty0990 21 день назад
​@@SchweitzerManbut great work ethic!
@SchweitzerMan
@SchweitzerMan 21 день назад
@@JDPetty0990 Did he ever get his jacket back?
@improvwithlions4173
@improvwithlions4173 21 день назад
I'll be careful to avoid calling myself my own proof of concept, we all know what that means!
@todd8398
@todd8398 19 дней назад
_Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime._ Patreon was intended for people to get funding to "learn to fish", but now creators are using it simply to "get a fish", over and over.
@petervote7914
@petervote7914 20 дней назад
What is non binary?
@MandatoryReporter2015
@MandatoryReporter2015 21 день назад
The best thing I’ve read by DC in years is the collected Tom King/Greg Smallwood “The Human Target.” It reads like a fantastic Indie story.
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
@InfamyOrDeath-__- 21 день назад
I wonder did they change it to POC because the way it was before the acronym was “CP”, and that wound confuse a lot of people and make them think they’re bad.
@jackratscratpack9323
@jackratscratpack9323 10 дней назад
I think if I hear someone declare their a non whatever that I’ll probably just respond okay what’s your POC Cause non binary just means it’s something you want or don’t want to be called it’s not reality tho
@jds3k_616
@jds3k_616 21 день назад
silicon valley but comics
@sacredgeek
@sacredgeek 21 день назад
Proof of concept not sustainable, what else you got?
@ThorneIdentity
@ThorneIdentity 21 день назад
adapt or die. the arena does play favorites but it shows no mercy. win anyway.
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