Sure but that’s why they are begging. Because the publisher is treating it like a hobby. They want adult sized results but they will pay a child sized check.
Me neither. When I was house hunting once, I saw an ad which said "this house has POCs" and it made me angry. It was an instant no from me. How does the color of your roommate's skin matter at all? If they're from a different country, then just mention that. At least that tells one that there might be cultural differences. In fact, I'd rather be called a foreigner than a POC, even though I've been living in the US for a while now.
@@JP-1990Haha, don’t worry. I’m ok with being called yellow because I just happen to like that color but it’s because I like the color not because it’s my actual skin color (which makes it sound like I have jaundice or something).
@@AL-ws5yi Yeah I always found it peculiar to refer to East Asian people (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, etc) as PoC when their defining racial characteristic is their eyelids.
Now that’s not fair. Valiant did get a Hollywood deal. Bloodshot actually got made. It released. It bombed. They went out of business. But they did get the Hollywood deal. Edit: Sean Murphy’s Zorro absolutely does not appeal to fans of Zorro.
My exposure to Patreon when it first came out was that supporters would be an “artist’s patron.” It was a donation to keep the creator able to continue doing what they do. The subscription and premium content model caught on later. And nowadays it’s highly seen as a stable supplement to traditional ad sales.
I can’t ever imagine going out and asking strangers for money for anything. My parents taught me to find a way to earn it, even if it means washing dishes to make it.
The people he mentioned should not have even been hired by the big 2 in the first place. There are numerous legit legends who were looked over and let go for being too old and white and male. Guys with actual talent and a track record, and who worked their way up through the ranks over many years through hard work. The fact that that these weirdos got hired and still continue to get any major work at all is unfair to those more qualified people. and gave a false sense of value to the people who are now e-begging.
I don't know how Marvel and DC aren't embarrassed that their superstar creators of color and members of the 2SLBGTQIAAP+ community have to beg for rent money month after month.
Even though the appeals are public, I have to imagine that these writers have specific people in mind they’re *really* asking. Like with Mags, I think it was Scott Snyder, maybe SGM for a period.
Listening to it, I thought just one thing: "Kickstarter for a proof of concept (MVP + building basic audience), then partner with a big publisher (Dark Horse, Image, etc) and expand the IP in a possible volume 2. Focus on making money through merchandise as the IP expands, rather than relying solely on comics."
speaking of shitty page rates at a pair of large comic publishers... was on stream last night talking with artists and a few other folks who make comics and stories were shared of turning down those two big companies because of said page rates. Artists citing that small press, indie, crowdfunding creators are paying better (at least their clients anyway). Wild
@@Superpooch97 I was on with Nyobi comics. I think the discussion portion we had live is right around the 1 hour 30 mark. It has come up on other streams too. Shikarii had made mention of some artists that don't want to work for the big two due to page rates (down in the chat) but most of us that were on have heard the same from the aritsts we work with. Link (if it will attach) ru-vid.com7-joc5GjSYM?si=fECQFMtt_4bIpu0K
Here is an idea. Get a PO Box in Manhattan and in the event that you get a meeting with Hollywood people, get a WeWork location in Manhattan for the week. In the meanwhile work out of New Jersey or Pennsylvania so you're close enough to NYC that you can be there if you need to be. Seems like a better investment than renting an office in Manhattan.
A comment like „he rambles and goes all over the place“ isn’t a criticism, it’s just a very clear and concise description of the channel. Print it on a Comics by Perch shirt and people would buy it.
I mean when you have publishers that are super cheap and telling creators things like “ get a day job” or “I’m not going to fund your lifestyle “ this is what you get. The point of a job is to make enough money to survive. If you aren’t making it at that job there is not point in working for that company so if a creator hits a publisher up or needs to crowd source fans for more money that’s their prerogative. You shouldn’t have to work a day job if the publisher is worth their salt. This idea that you need to pay your dues and slave away for nothing for years before getting paid a living wage is just insane and it’s pure gaslighting.
You can’t pay artists and writers child size paychecks and expect them to act like adults. You get what you pay for. In order for someone to be and adult they need to be pulling down an adult sized check.
I feel like I was in a great position as I was subscribed to Wired at one time and was able to see the logic for all these things laid out. They mentioned the inherent “wisdom in crowds” and how tech was “democratizing” and the scenario was described in which things would just work out once enough people were linked together that we could turn all these people linked together into something of value. Yet in recent years I haven’t really seen much of a change to the incentives surrounding comic book creators. The money in the industry seems to just get worse, people should do anything besides just work for the big two. Obviously the future foretold in Wired was just half the truth. I feel for creative people dealing with this stuff but the real culture war has always been between haves and have-nots and so many people made themselves useful bashing other have-nots hoping the haves would help them out. Turns out they were the real class traitors this whole time.
Muppet Mumbles: "The begging method doesn't work." Muppet Drew: "No?" Muppet Mumbles: "No, I've been begging Perch to pull the plug for years!" Both: "Doh ho ho ho ho ho ho ho ho!"
_Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime._ Patreon was intended for people to get funding to "learn to fish", but now creators are using it simply to "get a fish", over and over.
I wonder did they change it to POC because the way it was before the acronym was “CP”, and that wound confuse a lot of people and make them think they’re bad.
I think if I hear someone declare their a non whatever that I’ll probably just respond okay what’s your POC Cause non binary just means it’s something you want or don’t want to be called it’s not reality tho