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The Company Quartet
William Dalrymple in conversation with Shashi Tharoor
William Dalrymple’s multi-award-winning histories, The Anarchy, White Mughals, Return of a King and The Last Mughal, comprise the essential collection, The Company Quartet. A culmination of two decades of meticulous research and masterful narration, The Company Quartet tells a comprehensive story of British Imperialism and the conquest of India. How did a dangerously unregulated private company come to be the first global corporate power? In conversation with bestselling writer and politician, Shashi Tharoor, Dalrymple unravels two hundred years of colonial history, covert political machinations and bloody resistance - the rise and fall of the East India Company.
William Dalrymple - is the bestselling author of the Wolfson Prize-winning White Mughals, The Last Mughal, which won the Duff Cooper Prize, and the Hemingway and Kapucinski Prize-winning Return of a King. His most recent book, The Anarchy, was short listed for the Duke of Wellington medal, the Tata Book of the Year and the Historical Writers Association Award, was a Finalist for the Cundill Prize for History and won the 2020 Arthur Ross Medal from the US Council on Foreign Relations. Dalrymple has been awarded five honorary doctorates, is a fellow of the Royal Society of Literature, the Royal Asiatic Society and the Royal Society of Edinburgh, and has held visiting lectureships at Princeton, Brown and Oxford, where he is currently an Honourary Bodleian fellow. In 2018, he was presented with the prestigious President’s Medal by the British Academy and was named one of the world’s top 50 thinkers for 2020 by Prospect. He is a founder and co-director of the Jaipur Literature Festival.
Shashi Tharoor - a third-term Member of Parliament for Thiruvananthapuram, is the bestselling author of twenty-three books, both fiction and non-fiction, besides being a former Under Secretary- General of the United Nations and a former Minister of State for Human Resource Development and for External Affairs in the Government of India. He has won numerous awards, including the Pravasi Bharatiya Samman, a Commonwealth Writers’ Prize and the Crossword Lifetime Achievement Award. In 2019, Dr. Tharoor was also awarded the Sahitya Akademi Award in the category of ‘English Non- Fiction’ for his book An Era of Darkness. He chairs the Indian Parliament’s Standing Committee on Information Technology.

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@icarus6712 8 месяцев назад

Finally, a conversation between two articulate, literate and intelligent individuals in India. A rare sight indeed.

@shwethashetty7038 Месяц назад

Shashi in the excitement cited Marthanda Verma of Travancore as the first King to defeat a European army, tend to ignore the fact that even earlier than that in the 16th century it was Rani Abbakka who fought a long war encompassing 4 decades with the Portuguese resulting in them loosing very badly and finally to rely on treachery to kill her.

@felixalmeida481 Год назад

Speechless, visceral South Asian indignation here. This remarkably well researched, well documented presentation is phenomenal enlightenment for the vital process of psychological decolonization, not just for every Bangladeshi, every Indian, every Pakistani but, most significantly, for every british individual. Liberation and Equality are all encompassing, they are vital inheritances both for the colonized/oppressed as they are for the colonizer/oppressor. Thank you, William Dalrymple and Shashi Tharoor

@harjith.d.bubber 2 года назад

Learnt more here than school…. William and Shashi, thank you

@deoman99 2 месяца назад

because you are a dumbo..just earlier you fell victim to the narrative pitched at school, now you are falling victim to the narrative presented by these two con artists

@deepaphooken9276 Год назад

Brilliantly told! Listening to the other talks too!! Thanks for putting them on RU-vid.

@arpanasingh8790 2 года назад

First time learning history in quite different way, yet so profound impact is being created on our minds.

@nshorus5001 Год назад

It's not just about what England did but what what it did with the COMPLICITY of INDIAN influential figures

@deoman99 2 месяца назад

there was no we vs them...their strength gave us the grander identity..i hope you you get what i am trying to say here..

@lalitharavindran Год назад

What an amazing presentation. These historians are a delight to hear real facts of the past.

@MichaelLoda 2 месяца назад

These two gentlemen are pleasure to listen on their own and here they are together, wonderful

@Mojo-vu4hr Год назад

he is son of Hew Darymple Governor of Gibraltar, a man who was once boss of Wellington...a lot of what he says is true but to take the responsibility away from UK and just put it on EIC seems quite edited...the original charters these companies got to trade was backed by the Church and Royalty of UK. similar happened in SPAIN, without the backing of church and royalties this e companies had no power of any sorts...

@AbhishekMurudkar Год назад

I have just ordered the quartet. Cannot wait until they arrive.

@subratasaha4335 12 дней назад

Suggest reading Shashi Tharoor'r book too .. 'Inglorious Empire'

@Murga_Mutton 2 года назад

This was excellent. Shashi plugged in necessary bits and William put everything into a sensible piece.

@IndoPakCanvas 2 года назад

Seem's hate has finally consumed you fully. Hahaha. Good to see.

@Murga_Mutton 2 года назад

@@IndoPakCanvas Yeah coz I finally understood Quran.

@Coruption12 Год назад

Abhorrent username

@anupamverma7749 2 года назад

Absolutely brilliant. it's not just the story but the way these gents narrative it. Hats off! And very rarely are audience questions so analytical and meaningful - well done audience

@sdutta8 Год назад

The one thing I don’t understand in this narrative (and also Mr. Tharoor’s) is why the per capita GDP of India remains uniformly low, in fact close to subsistence level), from the glory days of the Moghuls (1700s), through the British loot, until about 1950. Only subsequently, it starts creeping up, gathering some moderate momentum after the the economic liberalization. This suggests that it made little difference to the average Indian whether Moghul wealth was parked in Delhi or had been shipped to London.

@HowIDoitGamingXbox 23 дня назад

Can you prove it with facts that condition of general people back then was same as the condition of people now?

@aakashPotter 21 день назад

Not sure if your statement is true, but if it is, it may be due to the fact that life of common folk improved in the west only post industrialisation, and sadly, India is still not fully industrialised. We are still a largely agricultural economy.

@sdutta8 21 день назад

@@HowIDoitGamingXbox it is in various research reports. Google “Indian per capita income versus rest of world in 15th and 16th century”. Then do the same, replacing “per capita income” with “GDP”. The two pictures will be starkly different,

@HowIDoitGamingXbox 21 день назад

@@sdutta8 how they figured out Indian per capita income during 15th-16th century? Is that even possible?

@ashishsaxena2612 2 года назад

Hmm a corporation raising money from Indian banks to pay Indians to eventually become incredibly rich whilst bankrupting Indians... sounds so current.

@josephandrews5467 Год назад

Ashish Saxena. The Adani Corporation.

@ajaxjaiswal3442 7 месяцев назад

Your lack of understanding about economics is bit rich, uncle. Good luck.

@ashishsaxena2612 7 месяцев назад

your lack about the use of language and comedy is a bit like your account balance@@ajaxjaiswal3442

@elgonm289 7 месяцев назад

@@josephandrews5467go back to sleep

@keshavsinghal3292 3 месяца назад

@@ajaxjaiswal3442Chad sir explain saar

@ajkpublicagency 2 года назад

Superb exchange. Statecraft is key word.

@rohitd23 7 месяцев назад

One 'small' company? Might have been the very start, but it for most it's time it was an arm of the state, having Royal ascent, and many shareholders that were Lordsand others in government..

@sbansban 2 года назад

Wow, just wow - so much explosive info emerging only now!!! I didn't think I was going to watch the whole video but I got totally hooked and have even saved the transcript.

@shanecallum5990 2 года назад

Fantastic! Loved it.

@ekamsat429 2 года назад

Ironic to see, around 24:00, WD discussing a past Bikaner merchant operating in Kolkata under the logo of a current company founded in Bikaner that ran its manufacturing in Kolkata.

@tonyholmes962 2 года назад

Respect to the Diamond geezers real jewels - thank you

@Mojo-vu4hr Год назад

boy at 52 mins ....very correct

@tukai1960 2 года назад

Very nicely presented.

@ricardoafonso7563 Год назад

. Thank you 😊

@anitamishra6431 Год назад

Very interesting and informative

@myfeedback572 Год назад

What I’m most surprised about is that non-South-Asians audience are absent.

@awibs57 Год назад

Just spectacular

@Shahi-bangalah_1352 Год назад

Well technically speaking,The first asian power to defeat a European power were the Persians(parthians) defeating the romans If I'm not mistaken.

@Hands2HealNow Год назад

Please create post time stamps of subject introductions🎉

@kmhuque5485 Год назад

The misdeeds of the Brits in India are legendary. So, too, is Mr Tharoor’s rebundling of the same story. His starting point always is how rich India was. At 27:05 he quotes an Oxford professor (of course, it has to be Oxford) to say “India was such a rich country ……. Its economy was 27% of the global GDP.” That raises a question. The US economy is now 24% of the worlds. That means that India then was richer than the US is now, in comparative terms. Then he says that in 1700 the revenue collected by Aurangzeb was more than every single European monarch combined (sic). Mr. Dalrymple, in this book “The Anarchy”, quotes historian Shireen Moosavi’s research which found that “the Mughal state appropriated 56.7 per cent of the total produce”. So, my question is: If India was so rich, and if the Moghul’s treasury collected so much tax, where did it all that money go? Yes, we know, it went into tombs, mosques, gardens, durbars, poets, musicians, and such like. What else? What public goods did those revenues produce? And, particularly, where was education? How many schools? Was there even a single printing press in their whole empire? The avarice of the Brits, their loot and plunder are all well-known, recorded in meticulous detail by the Brits themselves. The villains are well known. Repeatedly churning out stories of their villainy only allows us to continue to wallow in the comfort of victimhood, leaving the most important questions unanswered: Why did we fall like ninepins to the Brits in spite of our greater wealth, much larger population, much greater natural resources? Mir Jafars and Jsagat Seths are but fall guys. About time we started looking for causes, not villains.

@DipakBose-bq1vv Год назад

We know the villains; they are very well known. It took some one hundred years at least for the EIC to occupy India. It did not happen within a few months.

@andrewwilliams3137 Год назад

There is another explanation. The total GDP of the world grew faster than the GDP of India. India's GDP increased under the British but not as much as in the West. "The statistic that India produced 25 per cent of world output in 1800 and 2 to 4 per cent of it in 1900 does not prove that India was once rich and became poor. It only tells us that industrial productivity in the West increased four to six times during this period...National income statistics do not show that during British rule the Indian economy became steadily poorer". Source: Tirthankar Roy, Professor of Economic History, born and educated in India.

@andrewwilliams3137 Год назад

What if the only reason in the first place the Indian subcontinent had an estimated 25% of global GDP was because it had over 20% of the world's population. That's how it was first calculated. India's GDP before the C19th can only be estimated. For these early years 'population size is the far more important multiplier in the equation' as it's assumed incomes were little more than twice subsistence levels in a premodern, preindustrial agrarian society like In the Indian subcontinent. So the total GDP calculated is based on this low estimate of income multiplied by the historical population size. Search for List of regions by past GDP (PPP)

@himmsingz 8 месяцев назад

Well, Hindoostan was the richest territory in the world during the Mughal times. Bhakts may not like to acknowledge that!

@priyanka1902 Месяц назад

U seemed to have studied history from the British curriculum books. You need to come to india, or read about Nalanda university, for example, if u wanna know about our schools and univeraities. There were gurukuls. U need to read about them. The fact that it was 27% of gdp is not made up, this has been written by british historians themselves. Come and see our ancient temples and palaces.. there were carved cannons made of gold, the cotton fabric, the finest ones were exported from india, indigo dye was first produced in india. Do you know the first dockyard in the world called Lothal dockyard was in india? What did they have this dockyard? Not for weekend cannoeing ofcourse. It was for ships that were used for trade. Why did Vasco degama or Columbus set sail to find India? What was about it that attracted Europeans so much? Of course the cloth, the spices. And the craftsmanship. Read about these terms that I told you, to begin with. Then we will talk about your next questions.

@felixalmeida481 Год назад

Is this meant to be an exercise in frustration tolerance? WHERE ARE THE SLIDES?!! Surely this couldn’t have been by design; you must have intended to have your visuals compliment and enhance your verbal presentation. IS THERE ANY WAY TO SALVAGE THIS UNFORTUNATE ERROR? There must be a recording of the slides that could be presented alongside the conversation. This was uploaded onto RU-vid a mere 7 months ago today (March 8/‘23). If there is someone monitoring these comments, please take heed and REPLY. Thank you

@felixalmeida481 Год назад

My sincere apologies! Allow me please to eat crow, while I type this exposé of my petulant impatience. Had I just allowed myself to watch the video a few moments longer, the slides would have appeared. My rant, my lesson, my apology.

@justcurious40 Год назад

It is a lie to call it colonialism by a company- if you remember Mangal Panday, you would recall that the shipment of soldiers arrived. Which company will hand over a prized possession just like that even if it is to the monarch.

@gc95915 17 дней назад

I read somewhere - “From the dawn of history, India has always been invaded. The invader never won. But, India always lost”! The list of Jagat Seths, Mudaliars and Chettiars of Tamil Nadu, Mir Jaffers, Mir Sadiqs is endless. India was betrayed by its own people every time. I feel the main reason is the caste system, where every caste looked out for itself. Which is true today too. Remember, the majority of “lower” castes were not allowed to bear arms. That said, nobody really thought about India as a country. That concept wasn’t even there.

@lazy_wolf_unofficial 13 дней назад

Where do you think, Mir Jaffer, Mir Sadiq, Mir Kashem etc. fitted in the Caste system? These has nothing to do with caste system, it's to do with the greed of power, personal hatred to the ruler and greed of wealth and money. Greed always wins over literally anything including caste and all.

@පැරකුම්බා Год назад

Well the sinhalese defeated porugese, dutch and english in head to head battles... Anyone can defeat any army if u have the will....

@brandmanager4595 Год назад

We Bengali were the richest of all in India. Bengal was the world's richest economy and highly developed functioning society. That's why the Great Shaheed Shurawardy said, that Bengal thinks today the rest of India will think tomorrow.

@ajithkumarj887 6 месяцев назад

Bengal was first destroyed by Islam, then British and finally the Communists.

@keshavsinghal3292 3 месяца назад

Chad@@ajithkumarj887

@betelgeuserigel5211 3 месяца назад

Great Shaheed suhrawardy indeed! Glorifying a jihadi butcher and pimp! Quite brazen

@lazy_wolf_unofficial 13 дней назад

First of all that quote was of Gopal Krishna Gokhle, political Guru of Gandhi. And Shuruwabardy was anything but 'great'.

@Hands2HealNow Год назад

Current relevance 48:00

@dara_1989 2 года назад

so ... it should be called THE 1857 REVOLUTION

@imrank340 24 дня назад

East India the bigest employer in england but Britain facing abject poverty like running workhorse pay for slieep running the jack the ripper events.

@musicmania1959 Год назад

Sashi benefits from research done by Darymple

@winterstarr108 2 года назад

Long & short of it that none of the Kings, Sultans and whatever figure heads they were on coins etc. - an abiding shame that none of them could shed their ego, unite and drive the Brits out of the country. It's only after the country had been reduced to shambles, abject poverty and dubbed a third world country did the Brits leave for the politicians in India to do whatever they wanted to. Yet an another disgrace, this story has come in to the open after over 75 years after independence. Most likely, it has not been taught in schools. After all this, unregulated population, poor quality of life of past 75 years - and complete lack of awareness of how wealth of the country was stolen by the Brits - make it a pathetic & sad tale. Had it been the Americans, they would have been breathing fire and going to the end of the Earth & made incredible noise about it all. And likely recovered most of the loot.

@andrewwilliams3137 Год назад

You underestimate the benefits from British trade and investment and from industrialisation of India's economy. Under the British an increase in Indian population also occurred with an increase of GDP per capita. "The share of factories in industrial employment of British India increased from almost zero in 1850 to 11% in 1938, and in industrial income from 15% in 1900 to 45% in 1947...The growth is impressive by any standard". Source: Tirthankar Roy. India was a dominantly agricultural society, it was a developing country. But "India led the developing world in two leading industries of the industrial revolution, cotton textiles and iron and steel. For example, in 1928, 48% of the cotton spindles outside Europe, North America and Japan were in India. (Dunn and Hardy 1931, 25.) In 1935, 50% of the steel produced outside Europe, North America and Japan came from India. (BKS 1950.) Like these factory industries, even the handicraft industries did well in the early 20th century" The world’s fourth-largest cotton textile mill industry emerged in Bombay and Ahmedabad in direct competition with Manchester. 'Between 1900 and 1930, the volume of handloom cloth production about doubled...The second source was the factory industry. Productivity per worker in factories was about four times that of a worker in the handicraft industries in 1900". Britain created an Indian coal industry from nothing, a valuable natural resource for India. Without coal India could not have a modern steel industry. Tata Steel was founded by Indians in 1907 and is now one of the largest steel companies in the world. "By the time of independence in 1947, the port cities of India and Pakistan were home to some of the best schools, colleges, hospitals, universities, banks, insurance companies, and learned societies available outside the western world". Quotations from Tirthankar Roy, Professor of Economic History, born and educated in India.

@sarvanthulasi8581 2 года назад

🤣🙂 That guy who challenged is unexpected one. Nice. Poor white Elephant aka william said a lot used "BUT" 😆 I say BS . CROWN/KINGS/QUEEN IS $HIT .

@vinaypai3463 14 дней назад

Why are we so fixed with the East India Company?? There was a hundred years of the British Rule after the rule of East India Company ended. Please concentrate more on the good that The Crown did to us. The schools, colleges, universities, roads, railways, telegraph, full cities like Mumbai, Delhi, Calcutta, Chennai, Cochin, Dacca, Peshawar, Lahore, Jhansi, the airstrips, the ports, the army. Do you know how much these costs in todays price?? Why is this British man not highlighting the good that the British have done to India?? Or is it that badmouthing the British helps him sell more of his books??

@razraza3183 13 дней назад

British implemented Final Solution on India, just like Hitler implemented Final Solution on Jews.

@akshayakumarpatra1850 6 месяцев назад

Those distort our History, promote anti Hindu agenda Cong leaders love to invite them and give importance.

@sarvanthulasi8581 2 года назад

So english guy saying soilders or generals wanted expansion but east India company wanted only wealth not wars which costs very much😔😂 CAN A WAR BE FOUGHT WITHOUT TOP HIERARCHY SUPPORT. EVEN RUSSIA-UKRAIN IS WAR FROM TOP TO BOTTOM APPROACH. STOP ILLOGICAL HYPOTHESIS WHICH IS FAILURE STEP.

@PastPresented Год назад

It was mentioned in the video that Clive fought the battle of Plassey without permission from his superiors. In the days before electrical communication, it was rarely possible to wait for top hierarchy support before starting a war.