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The Competitive History of Jigglypuff in Super Smash Bros 

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@vjoe5389
@vjoe5389 3 года назад
64: Pretty good Melee: God tier and absolutely hated Brawl: What's a Jigglypuff? 4: Ledge Ultimate: We don't really know what this pink puffball does. We know it exists and that it's bad but we don't exactly know what it does
@shaan__real
@shaan__real 3 года назад
I am I puff In every game. Allow me to explain 64: never played Melee: yeah u right Brawl: damn this character sucks Sm4sh: (´༎ຶོρ༎ຶོ`) Ultimate: hell yeah finally a character after 17 years
@MKsomething_
@MKsomething_ 3 года назад
As a melee & ultimate jigglypuff main I can confirm and she’s pretty overrated, she got 1 buff that got her (IMO) to the top of low tier. To make her reliably good they really need to make her rest kill earlier
@Amaling
@Amaling 3 года назад
@@MKsomething_ not make rest kill earlier, but rest setups be actually consistent. Also a combo throw would be nice
@MKsomething_
@MKsomething_ 3 года назад
@@Amaling I fairly consistently hit rest, drill rest shouldn’t be 100% because it’s supposed to be a gamble/comeback-tool? but landing up-air and pound rest are quite consistent (for me) I hit them 19 out of 20 times. If you’ve ever played Melee you might understand why I would like rest to kill earlier. Just look into it.
@MKsomething_
@MKsomething_ 3 года назад
@Agent Ombraura I like that explanation, people like Hbox (and myself) always try to push puff to her absolute best. There’s a technique for jigglypuff that’s called pivot landing which looks really cool and good but is really situational. Jigglypuff is not one of the worst characters, but she’s certainly still quite bad
@rodtobam47
@rodtobam47 3 года назад
"you could see high level puff dittos" Two jigglypuffs just mashing air attacks on screen.
@webturd7145
@webturd7145 2 года назад
HYYPEE!!
@worldsboss
@worldsboss 3 года назад
17:15 holy crap look at how slow Jigglypuff’s turnaround animation was!! I’m so used to Ultimate now that I’d totally forgotten how bad it was in Smash 4!
@TurboPikachu
@TurboPikachu 3 года назад
@Healer Philantrophe I was wondering why her RAR feels impossible to pull off in Ultimate compared to Kirby
@origamiman5460
@origamiman5460 3 года назад
Alternate Title: The Competitive History of Backair in Super Smash Bros
@Cristeve
@Cristeve 3 года назад
Fox = Shine Falco = Neutral B Marth = Forward Smash Peach = Down B Jigglypuff = Back Air
@younglink3924
@younglink3924 3 года назад
@@Cristeve i though she spammed back air... wait that ultimate
@cowspawnerthecringeworthy7815
@cowspawnerthecringeworthy7815 3 года назад
Last video this channel will ever make is a puff video. Consider that.
@DIRTY-MERLIN
@DIRTY-MERLIN 3 года назад
just realized this channel hasn't posted in 2 months. ya'll good?
@dylcoll2756
@dylcoll2756 3 года назад
MAKE THAT 5 MONTHS OMG
@Agerzzs
@Agerzzs 3 года назад
@@dylcoll2756 make that 8 hours
@Popstik746
@Popstik746 Год назад
Make that 10 months
@Mike-di3mo
@Mike-di3mo Год назад
Make it a year
@krushed__DX
@krushed__DX Год назад
make it 2
@williammeyer2817
@williammeyer2817 3 года назад
Please do not join their website. It's extremely bare bones and cash grabby, a bunch of their guides arent even finished yet. Don't waste your money.
@themanhimself436
@themanhimself436 3 года назад
Yeah I joined for a while (admitted in 2019) and it was an incomplete mess where the guides were made by no names and were disgustingly elementary. The biggest takeaway is that you already know how to improve by yourself, you just need to decide if you want to work for it
@CrowClouds
@CrowClouds 3 года назад
I actually enjoyed their guides, even though you're right, it feels like there's room for more content. But they also don't make it clear that you have to pay for a year in advance. Not only do they not have a monthly plan, they don't make that clear, and I don't recall seeing a total amount of $96 that I authorized. Shady company. Avoid!!!
@hosay9019
@hosay9019 3 года назад
Hbox. My final words
@MavrosMinotavros69
@MavrosMinotavros69 3 года назад
@Vortrix He's not dead tho?
@tashi32_
@tashi32_ 3 года назад
bassmage
@matthewbob_moostachepants5563
@matthewbob_moostachepants5563 3 года назад
Yup
@antonyco1955
@antonyco1955 3 года назад
why they don’t upload anymore ? i’m still waiting for another competitive history video
@That1Toast
@That1Toast 2 года назад
:D
@atomicbigweld4570
@atomicbigweld4570 3 года назад
Where are you at!!!! Where are you at!!!!
@djdrizzy9139
@djdrizzy9139 3 года назад
Puff and Kirby kinda have a similar history. They were top tier in one game, average in another, awful, and now in Ultimate they are pretty good.
@liamconnor9235
@liamconnor9235 3 года назад
Pretty good as in relative to their other appearances? Because as far as I know they’re still both bottom of mid tier at best
@djdrizzy9139
@djdrizzy9139 3 года назад
@@liamconnor9235 Eh, I think both are mid, especially Kirby (bottom of mid at worst). But "pretty good" in Ultimate means mid tier. My rank scale is bad/ok/good/great/excellent. All Ultimate characters are at least ok.
@nicksalvatore5717
@nicksalvatore5717 3 года назад
Kirb is Low/mid tier and Jigglypuff is like bottom 5 in ultimate lol (Still way better than they were in Brawl and 4, plus Ultimate is much more balanced.)
@sh-awe7328
@sh-awe7328 3 года назад
@@nicksalvatore5717 you have it backwards, Kirby is the bottom tier and Jigglypuff is low/mid.
@flyingfish1138
@flyingfish1138 3 года назад
puff is kinda bad but NOOOOOWHERE near how bad they were in brawl and smash 4. Also Kirby is high end of mid tier, y’all tripping. Puff is mid tier as well, but more towards the middle.
@literallydeadpool
@literallydeadpool 3 года назад
Nice video, I like the explanation of King's jigglypuff
@luke_aaron_crockett
@luke_aaron_crockett 3 года назад
Where are the new videos, you guys no longer doing youtube content?
@Sly88Frye
@Sly88Frye 3 года назад
I wish they would bring back that green bandanna. I do like the green sleeping cap they replaced it with, but I much preferred the bandanna. I don't play as Jigglypuff much anyway as I'm a Sonic main, but that's what I think when it comes to alts
@jaykorn7178
@jaykorn7178 3 года назад
why do you guys not post anymore?
@4bernadettatm17
@4bernadettatm17 3 года назад
11:10 yikes.......
@keller_3180
@keller_3180 3 года назад
So like are they done uploading or something
@beticoandhisevildoge1055
@beticoandhisevildoge1055 3 года назад
Does somebody know what happened to them, they used to upload a few times every week.
@fastestniggaalive
@fastestniggaalive 3 года назад
I’m commenting for info
@Agerzzs
@Agerzzs 3 года назад
@@fastestniggaalive same
@takoryu415
@takoryu415 3 года назад
IDK EITHER
@EduardoFlores-bt4fo
@EduardoFlores-bt4fo 3 года назад
It is a theory of mine, but I think the metoo event from July really hurt them.
@fastestniggaalive
@fastestniggaalive 3 года назад
@@EduardoFlores-bt4fo yeah you can definitely see a decline in viewership after they fired Keitaro. I don’t blame ProGuides for distancing themselves from the smash community.
@grapefruit9308
@grapefruit9308 3 года назад
Guys they switched uploads from this channel to another called pro guides esports if anyone is wondering
@oicwutudidder
@oicwutudidder 3 года назад
Do Bowser next! Every game he got better, and they treated him so good in ultimate. I will continue to come back here and annoy pro guides until they do it! His Smash 4 redesign gave him very good new qualities, and literally every aerial except fair was changed. His air and ground speed buffs were badly needed, and he's very good in ultimate because of all the start and end lag on aerials being cut in half. 3f instead of 8f jump squat, air side b starting up in 6 frames instead of 17, bigger hitboxes on nair, fair, and up tilt, armor on everything, fire turning from useless to absolutely overpowered, down smash actually being useful, and although the distance of up be recovery was nerfed, it got a better hitbox. Did I miss anything else? Bowser is awesome in ultimate.
@kian8603
@kian8603 3 года назад
Agreed
@kimaster5893
@kimaster5893 3 года назад
I'm down for a bowser competitive history
@theshanaman7805
@theshanaman7805 3 года назад
I’d kinda like them to finish all the 64 characters first
@jairoharleyvids100
@jairoharleyvids100 3 года назад
I don’t think they will be able to do bowser next
@humanperson7198
@humanperson7198 3 года назад
False Swipe Gaming: Who are you? ProGuides: I’m you, but stronger.
@Sly88Frye
@Sly88Frye 3 года назад
You're making ProGuides sound like a big bully. Lol! Don't be such a meanie.
@shudeepta
@shudeepta 3 года назад
Correction: Falsw Swipe Gaming: Who are you? ProGuides: Im you but i upload on the topic more
@whydoiexist2180
@whydoiexist2180 3 года назад
@@shudeepta at this point fsg realized that smash isn't there thing
@tacapa-uh7bu
@tacapa-uh7bu 3 года назад
My main yay, been waiting for this.
@Starrlytts
@Starrlytts 3 года назад
Same, i main jiggs in ultimate I don't really play any other smash game
@presion5628
@presion5628 3 года назад
To me, Puff just feels like reverse little mac
@dak-o-lanturn
@dak-o-lanturn 3 года назад
But good though
@presion5628
@presion5628 3 года назад
@@dak-o-lanturn Swords win so hard (I know I main Shulk)
@dak-o-lanturn
@dak-o-lanturn 3 года назад
@@presion5628 theres always ways around swordies with puff but yeah those are probably her worst matchups. I feel like the only +2’s she has are Yoshi and Shulk maybe. Tbh ike doesnt win that hard
@presion5628
@presion5628 3 года назад
@@dak-o-lanturn I mean, Shulk´s bad frame data can be run from but it´s still bad, specially when shulk cnat get edgeguarded bc jump art
@DKbill
@DKbill 3 года назад
6:52 that's mah blueberry dong
@Tenshi_727
@Tenshi_727 3 года назад
I love how you used the same music hbox uses for his stream!!
@MKsomething_
@MKsomething_ 2 года назад
And now BassMage is getting top 8 at summit, how far we've come
@charliesmith9660
@charliesmith9660 3 года назад
OMG BANANA BOY CAMEO. I love that guy
@santiagojimenez8232
@santiagojimenez8232 3 года назад
What happened here
@gerbz7695
@gerbz7695 2 года назад
Strong back air hit box being at the tip of the foot would be the only buff she currently “needs” in ultimate. Could be kind of OP tho. Otherwise already pretty strong character
@teal4265
@teal4265 3 года назад
What happened to you guys
@julezzz_08
@julezzz_08 3 года назад
Yeah I’ve been wondering what happened too
@kanishksharma642
@kanishksharma642 3 года назад
@@julezzz_08 they dead
@liamm113
@liamm113 3 года назад
@@kanishksharma642 y
@kanishksharma642
@kanishksharma642 3 года назад
@@liamm113 Idk
@Rspbabypuncher
@Rspbabypuncher 3 года назад
They dead cause smash ultimate is losing steam
@jkattack2640
@jkattack2640 Год назад
Bassmage has been killing it recently
@chespinforsmash8535
@chespinforsmash8535 3 года назад
R.I.P this channel, it'll be missed
@kokakadoo9101
@kokakadoo9101 3 года назад
It really wont
@The_Gabe
@The_Gabe 3 года назад
Next time: The competitive history of Ness
@evelyie
@evelyie 3 года назад
The Competitive Historyof Jigglypuff: *hungrybox*
@LS-td4yf
@LS-td4yf 3 года назад
Anyone else wondering what happened to this channel?
@shadowbonbon3
@shadowbonbon3 3 года назад
A lot of people not just u
@tinymatt2008
@tinymatt2008 3 года назад
Why you don’t upload more videos
@destroyer4592
@destroyer4592 3 года назад
Puff has so much untapped potential
@wiimote__1727
@wiimote__1727 3 года назад
You should make more of these
@blue_musicals
@blue_musicals 3 года назад
I want competitive history of Yoshi
@shadowraith10
@shadowraith10 3 года назад
I want the competetive history of Pokemon Trainer. I know it'd be rather short due to brawl, smash 4 and ultimate only but I WANT IT.
@ivrydice0954
@ivrydice0954 3 года назад
I'm getting a weird sense of Deja Vu
@cadenlikespigs
@cadenlikespigs 3 года назад
I found out that jab sets up a tech situation at very high percents.
@prestong3222
@prestong3222 3 года назад
why does everyone think puff is bottom 5 in ult when puff is like high mid tier
@dak-o-lanturn
@dak-o-lanturn 3 года назад
Yessir, no one knows about dair loops and shit because they just see hbox play and think thats it.
@DM-sl2fq
@DM-sl2fq 3 года назад
Funny how Hbox himself said puff is low tier
@dak-o-lanturn
@dak-o-lanturn 3 года назад
@@DM-sl2fq hbox isnt the best puff in ultimate.
@prestong3222
@prestong3222 3 года назад
@@DM-sl2fq funny how BassMage himself (aka the best ult puff) says puff is high tier
@doctordice2doctordice210
@doctordice2doctordice210 2 года назад
She’s a soiled respectable mid tier with the right hands but sympathise with HBOX the developers decided that instead of buffing/revamping her kit in meaningful ways so to fit the smash ultimate’s mould whilst stying true to her legacy, they instead opted to buff her weak moves to make more rounded It’s the same story as the new smash ultimate’s heavyweights ranking lower then their veteran counterparts in the tierlists due to this “all rounder design > clear strengths and weaknesses “ design philosophy
@speedshoes29
@speedshoes29 3 года назад
When’s the next competitive history?
@lazypaladin
@lazypaladin 3 года назад
Being a Fallout fan: Hearing The King and his Jigglypuff...can't help but here the voicelines from New Vegas.
@gotgud
@gotgud 3 года назад
what happened to the uploads?
@kyriosxx1627
@kyriosxx1627 3 года назад
not here, its been 4 months
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 3 года назад
That rest
@antonyco1955
@antonyco1955 3 года назад
do roy next,he got better every game,it will be a pretty fun competitive history
@isaacfeldmann5647
@isaacfeldmann5647 3 года назад
Can you guys do how to buff Ridley? One way to buff ridley would be to remove some end lag from side special
@dandreincredible7596
@dandreincredible7596 3 года назад
I wish they do the competitive history of Donkey Kong
@kremeykrizp9458
@kremeykrizp9458 3 года назад
You said u would do competive history of captain falcon in the mario one
@kremeykrizp9458
@kremeykrizp9458 3 года назад
Plz do competive history of captain falcon
@desh206
@desh206 3 года назад
Jiglipuff as the most entrasting history out of all smash character
@ccclxvds4939
@ccclxvds4939 3 года назад
I smell Hungrybox and nothing but Hungrybox when I think of Melee Puff.
@MikeyProHD
@MikeyProHD 3 года назад
5 months since there was an upload. What happened?
@Nyworin
@Nyworin 2 года назад
Please do a ultimate version of this video and talk about bassmage, top 8 at summit
@connorforeman5704
@connorforeman5704 3 года назад
Do diddy Kong please it would be cool
@SuperJumpBros
@SuperJumpBros 3 года назад
It puffed out
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 3 года назад
Talk about hungry box
@kremeykrizp9458
@kremeykrizp9458 3 года назад
So plz do competive history of captain falcon
@Drawn_Together_Lover
@Drawn_Together_Lover 3 года назад
Why do I see a typo on the thumbnail?
@frostbite5265
@frostbite5265 3 года назад
When are you going to put Steve on the smash tier list
@takoryu415
@takoryu415 3 года назад
did you guys dissapear
@kimaster5893
@kimaster5893 3 года назад
Diddy kong competitive history
@virgilitosantana1930
@virgilitosantana1930 3 года назад
PLEASE do lucario next
@darkstryller
@darkstryller 3 года назад
what happened? it's been a month since you posted a video?
@StellariaEclipse
@StellariaEclipse 3 года назад
bro the thumbnail is driving me nuts
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 3 года назад
Jigglypuff got real nerfed in brawl
@connorforeman5704
@connorforeman5704 3 года назад
Who do you think is better between smash 4 pre patch diddy Kong, brawl Olimar, melee Falco, or brawl ice climbers
@kimaster5893
@kimaster5893 3 года назад
1st Brawl ice climbers 2nd 4 prepatch Diddy 3rd melee falco 4th Brawl olimar
@Dankfort
@Dankfort 3 года назад
My Jigglypuff needs to have a hat
@Germania_1848
@Germania_1848 3 года назад
I think i can speak to every Puff main, Smash 4 was a „fanstatic“ Game that didnt hurt Puff at all in her history and was Fun to Play as a Puff main
@jacopodeldeo4308
@jacopodeldeo4308 3 года назад
It was the ,, peek,, of jigglipuff competitive
@kian8603
@kian8603 3 года назад
She was just a good character
@jacopodeldeo4308
@jacopodeldeo4308 3 года назад
@@kian8603 one of the best
@ShayYuichi
@ShayYuichi 3 года назад
Ness next please
@ryffboit4234
@ryffboit4234 3 года назад
competitive history of dk.
@leakyyo0554
@leakyyo0554 3 года назад
Yoshi next
@xxx-ff9gw
@xxx-ff9gw 3 года назад
Lol "buff the puff" 😂
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 3 года назад
Rest and air attack Need I say more?
@yankees2864
@yankees2864 2 года назад
Jab reset singhandedly launched puff to at least mid tier.
@Mike-di3mo
@Mike-di3mo Год назад
Or upper mid tier
@julezzz_08
@julezzz_08 3 года назад
Still waiting for my competitive history video
@SamSimpsonTS50
@SamSimpsonTS50 3 года назад
"Competitive history" nice joke
@elvin6461
@elvin6461 3 года назад
Lets go puff
@classicrockguy7
@classicrockguy7 3 года назад
Feel like FSG might need to okay this one
@drmegasteve4335
@drmegasteve4335 3 года назад
Can I get a history of ness?
@xue1379
@xue1379 3 года назад
Can someone send me the link to that killaor crew battle?
@FlubbedsodaGamingOfficial
@FlubbedsodaGamingOfficial 3 года назад
Teir list doesn't matter Kirby got a "kirby is OP"
@hmaster0973
@hmaster0973 2 года назад
I would change the BAir
@KiravTM
@KiravTM 3 года назад
They never got to make a video on Sephiroth :(
@shuunobotenzo1992
@shuunobotenzo1992 3 года назад
Pyra and Mythra sad noices
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 3 года назад
Altérnate title: competitive history of Bair
@erronn.
@erronn. 3 года назад
copied
@brandonmorehouse7507
@brandonmorehouse7507 3 года назад
True copied
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 3 года назад
@@brandonmorehouse7507 how was it copied
@brandonmorehouse7507
@brandonmorehouse7507 3 года назад
Because another comment like this comment was posted maybe not even a few days before this one
@ultragamer8816
@ultragamer8816 3 года назад
@@brandonmorehouse7507 they copied it from me
@ricodo1244
@ricodo1244 3 года назад
Can you pleas order by games again and not years, it's very confusing?
@AFF_NYC
@AFF_NYC 3 года назад
Yo can y’all upload please
@sukistruky4330
@sukistruky4330 3 года назад
What happened with the videos?
@myguygrizz4447
@myguygrizz4447 3 года назад
Can you do donkey Kong next
@Yuzu_sans2
@Yuzu_sans2 3 года назад
I think this channel is sponsored by ProGuides
@theshusher1234
@theshusher1234 2 года назад
Did you know with puff if you do it right in smash 4 you can run up and rest without jumping or anything..... I did it to my friend for a while night after I discovered it, I would just wait till he wiffed a laggy move or until I landed a sing and then I'd casually run up and rest him.... It wasn't ok
@lordzevallos
@lordzevallos 3 года назад
JIGGLYPUFF TOP TIER LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!!
@ironkeepgaming1936
@ironkeepgaming1936 3 года назад
I think every super smash character is great in its own way. 😁, i main Greninja
@PrizmKing_EditZ
@PrizmKing_EditZ 3 года назад
What about hbox?
@KCDWolf
@KCDWolf 3 года назад
Can we get the competitive history of Yoshi or zelda)sheik ?
@shuunobotenzo1992
@shuunobotenzo1992 3 года назад
Bruh channel dead
@lilfetus2728
@lilfetus2728 3 года назад
Finally
@Tyler_Games
@Tyler_Games 3 года назад
Florida is the strongest smash ultimate scene
@squircled6274
@squircled6274 3 года назад
What happened to this channel?
@beeegl8928
@beeegl8928 3 года назад
I think it’s either there was a COVID outbreak in the studio or they weren’t having enough views
@fastestniggaalive
@fastestniggaalive 3 года назад
Damn keitaro came back
@karmah_star8986
@karmah_star8986 3 года назад
Fastest Nigga Alive I’m sorry, he came back? Fr?
@fastestniggaalive
@fastestniggaalive 3 года назад
Huhey, catch one of these!
@undeadhoundoom3263
@undeadhoundoom3263 3 года назад
What happened to this channel
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