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“Hestia is Bestia” is a phrase on the Internet that should not be questioned. It is the same for the anime and for Greek Mythology. I personally like her adaption in Percy Jackson book series
One fact about Hestia you did not talk about was the fact that she was initially seated among the 12 Olympian gods, but gave up her own place so that Dionysus could ascend.
So… I had this detail in my notes but neither I nor my researchers found any mention of that happening in recorded myth. I originally found that claim on the Percy Jackson wiki and other websites that don’t quote directly from the sources. I didn’t want to include a modern twist and present it as historical, so I chose to leave it out. If someone can find the poem or text containing this claim I’d be very intrigued though.
I know Hestia from the Percy Jackson series and I absolutely adored her. Though she barely made an appearance, she is presented as a sweet and warm being which I think is accurate, like in the myth. She is so loved that the other Gods, especially the male Gods, didn't have the heart to hurt her and even protected her. In short, she is the cinnamon roll of Olympus XD
When I learned about Hestia's role in the Greek pantheon, I decided I liked her. When I learned that she had the least amount of drama in her stories, I decided that she was my favorite figure of the Greek pantheon as a whole. Her depiction in the Percy Jackson series was great in my opinion and that's when I learned about how much POWER she had in regards to the sacrifices in particular. She's a rare breed of goddess and that in and of itself deserves mad respect.
@@furyberserk don't we all decide whether or not we like someone (especially in real life) after we come to know them or at least know about them? It can be a conscious decision, or it just happens on its own. I refer to the latter in my original comment. Pardon me for any confusion.
@@jensenrogers6611correct, we do choose whether we like people or not. Hestia and Hephaestus have got to be my favourites, just introverts who have their own thing and stick to it.
@@Of_infinite_Faith I'd argue that also applies to Hades my favorite Olympian. Other than the drama with Persephone(and nymph in one story), Hades one of the least dramatic of Olympians and he's the richest.
I always assumed Hestia as the silent gentle type (I mean she does have the LEAST drama amongst the pantheon), but never expected she is in fact the eldest of the family... Frankly, I am embarrassed as I am also the eldest yet the loudest and most dramatic...
Hey, it’s okay. I’m dramatic sometimes too, and I’m boysterous, but that doesn’t make me less than, just because a Goddess isn’t that way. Yes, she is a role model, and yes, there’s nothing inherently wrong with wanting to follow her example, however if she were here, I’m sure she’d tell you that you’re perfect just the way you are and that you’re a great older sibling.
I actually have an idea for Hestia Story. There was a little girl who was being horribly abused by her family, she has to do everything in the house at a young age, one day while cooking dinner, she cries near the fire and Hestia heard her cry, she comes to see what's going on only to witness the girl's stepmother walks in and start beating the girl for taking so long. Hestia was furious at the this and burn the stepmother's face with fire, she decided to punish those abusers by making them burn for eternity. Hestia adopted the girl and grant her godhood, she named the girl Aminta (Meaning “protector” or “vindicator,"), Aminta become the goddess of children and teaching, forever protecting children from being abused.
Thank you for this Hestia video as she is definitely one of the most underrated goddesses in Greek mythology. I like to imagine she always has a supply of cosy blankets and hot chocolate mix ready to hand around the hearth :) If you need video suggestions, perhaps do a video on Melinoe, the daughter of Hades and Persephone, who was the goddess of ghosts and nightmares and will be the protagonist of the upcoming Hades II game. Thanks Jon :)
My understanding of “virgin” from Ancient Greek is that it means self-contained and self-reliant. Independent. Not requiring a man to take care of you and your life. I always think about that initial meaning when it comes up in other ancient stories.
@@c.w.1925 today, sure. That’s not the intended Greek mythological interpretation of the word. The word "virgin" comes from the Greek and Latin word virgo, which means "maiden". In Greek mythology, virgo was used to describe several goddesses, such as Diana and Artemis where the word "virgin" can also mean unmarried, "one-in-herself," or "not belonging to a man". As an aside, the Bible did not originally say Mary was a virgin. The word translated from the Greek and Hebrew for virgin actually has several possible translations like young maiden, girl, hand maiden and virgin as a possibility is lower in the list than many other possibilities. However even though this word was never in dispute over its translation King James ruled the word to mean virgin and it stuck and dogma was created in its support.
I'm so happy you did a segment on Hestia. She has always been my favorite Goddess, & the one I relate to the best, despite so little being written about her. What a pleasant surprise. Keep up the segments, they are always fun to watch.
As a mega PJO fan, and an online Vestal role player, I was so happy when I saw this! And as for other gods to cover, I'd love to see one on Bellona, Kymopoleia, or Posiden wife( I can't remember her name). They're all pretty underrated.
Thank you John, for talking about lovely Hestia. I am Greek, and I love delving into the myths and folklore of my ancestors, and Hestia is the goddess that I have been the most drawn too since I first learned about her, she’s very gentle, and warm, I’d describe her energy as like a warm hug from someone you love, and as someone with severe anxiety and depression, Hestia’s gentle energy is one I am drawn too. I love that she’s an introverted goddess, and she’s introspective. I also love the fact that she generally keeps to herself and doesn’t get involved in all the other gods drama. Hestia deserves so much love and respect, she has such a gentle energy, such a good heart, it saddens me that not many people know about Hestia. Also, thank you for making sure that your sources are Greek and not Roman, often people confuse the Greek gods with their Roman counterparts. Thank you for clearing up the part about the vestal virgins, a lot of people associate them with Hestia, but that was purely a Roman thing, Hestia was worshipped by all people, she didn’t have a sacred temple of her own, priestesses or priests. The Hearth flame is Hestia’s sacred temple, think of Hestia as the literal embodiment of the Hearth flame
Maybe a bit random but I've been rewatching all your old videos again and I'm so glad your channels earned the credit it's deserved since day one 😊 excited to learn more about Hestia as well 😁
Hestia is one of my favorites but you forgot to mention how she gave her seat as one of the 12 Olympian’s to Dionysus. Also I’d personally love an episode on Eris.
That fact is made up. Both Jon, in another comment and Red, from overly sarcastically say there’s no source that say Hestia gave up her seat to Dionysus
@@AzathothAllinOne loli, everything else is true, but she’s just short with curves, and large breast, loli is just a girl with a child like appearance.
@@ginnungagapabyss5639 "but she’s just short with curves, and large breast, loli is just a girl with a child like appearance." Lolis can be short with curves WITH a child like appearance. In the series itself, Hestia is called an "Oppai Loli" by the other gods.
Hestia is great. She feels so warm and comforting. I didn't know who she was when I first encountered her, I'm glad you could share some more information about her.
This is why I love this show. Even if I think I know a lot about a subject, there's usually something John teaches me. Never knew Hestia got a portion of every sacrifice.
Your deep dive into Hestia was extremely educational and enlightening. Being a massive fan of Greek myth and PJO, I adored Hestia and her portrayal and it makes sense why she would enact so much devotion.
There's a sheep on my island in animal crossing named Vesta (Hestia's Roman equivalent) and I was sure to put a campfire with plenty of sitting space outside her house for this reason
Long time follower but glad to see her shared. I love her though I tend to follow the Roman names as a person with Italian descent I like to pretend(hope) that it's a way to connect with what my ancestors may have followed. Either way, love Hestia or Vesta and she truly is limited in stories, especially commonly shared online. Thank you!
I read a version of the myth where Zeus punished Priapus by making him unable to "fertilize" anything. When he was gonna get it moving he would be unable to. Its a great punishment. A fertility god unable to fertilize xD
I just seen a documentary about the Vestal Virgins and them always keeping the Eternal Flame burning. And if it went out there was going to be trouble.
When I was in 4th grade, I remember reading about the Greek gods and goddesses for the first time and LOVED Hestia. I’ve always been sad she didn’t get enough attention. ❤
I would love a video talking about the difference between the Roman and Greek gods. People always says they are basically the same and it's just not true. For example Diana and Artemis have many differences. They was gods before the Greek influence that took on aspects of the Greeks when it made its way over
Yes!!! I’ve wanted you to cover her. It’s been a long time since I did research and read stuff on Greek mythology. So much so that I forgot hestias name! But I remembered she was the most level headed lol.
Great vid Jon. I never really paid attention to this goddess. Also, I didn't know that the way the gods were thrown up changed their age positions. I always thought Zeus was still the youngest and so on, very cool stuff.
Hestia has always been my favourite, It really is appalling though that Hestia had to go to such lengths just to be left alone. Btw there are four minor Gods you may be interested in they come under the title of The Astra Planeti
I really like the deep dives in the lesser known gods and goddesses. A lot of the time their stories and lore is much more interesting and deeper than the mainstream ones
I would really like to learn more about Hindu, Azetec, Mayan, Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Celtic mythology as I have heard some things from a few of them and they are very interesting and intriguing.
Well he has done Greco Roman tragedies and some european fairy tale stuff... Why not move on to the pro level, I mean stuff like the original brothers Grimm were horrific, the Greco-Roman pantheons were full of tragedy, but even combined they've got nothing on Japanese mythology.
Myths and legends podcasts has some good ones as well (his monkey king and momotaro and his tanuki episodes are great and touch on some of the nightmare fuel that can be in Japanese mythology). For real nightmare fuel try looking up the Gaki, a sorta Japanese vampire that comparatively makes western vampires look like the "vampires" in twilight.
After this I did a little (very little) research which confimed that no myth of antiquity states Hestia gave up her seat for Dionysus and that its a more modern idea. But it is probably based on the fact that some lists or depictions of the 12 include Dionysus and some have Hestia. For example the East frieze on the Parthenon has Dionysus and no Hestia, while the alter of the Twelve Olympians in Athens includes Hestia but not Dionysus.
As Red from Overly Sarcastic Productions said in her Dionysus video, there's no actual myth of Hestia giving up her seat to Dionysus only assumptions that she did.
Total missed oppurtunity of not mention the Disney's incarnation of Hestia. Not only is seen very little. Being a major playerin the episode "The Tiff on Olympus", but she's voiced by the late and great Betty White!
I'm glad you've made another mythology video I've been rewatching the older ones and I've just about watching them all. I can't wait to see who you make a video on next
Omg I'm so happy you did a video on Hestia I agree she is under appreciated. And can you do a mythology explained on the goddess *Mnemosyne* please and thank you ☺️
That was really good. I know a lot more about Hestia now than I did before I started watching this. Many thanks. As for other pantheons that you might want to cover, have you considered some of the Gaelic myths and legends? Although Irish myths about male heroes/gods inevitably start with someone stealing a red cow and it all going to hell in a handbasket thereafter, the female deities like The Morrigan or Rhianna the Welsh goddess of horses have stories containing loads of horror and soap opera. Anyway, thanks again.
I'm a huge Greek Mythology fan and still I've never heard or read much about Hestia. I've always wanted to know more about her. Thanks for the video Jon👍
I’ve always loved the lesser known myths with the maiden goddesses. I would love to see a video dedicated to the Erotes, Eros and his retinue of love gods
I had heard she became goddess of the hearth because her "godly fire", her immortal soul was most of what was left when she was regurgitated. And so it was suitable that she be worshipped at the hearth. As for Priapus, I don't think there could be a better punishment than what he actually was made to suffer. It's not gory, just embarrassing and frustrating for him.
Yeah Zeus and Hades were done long ago, solo better avoid water til he does as Poseidon would likely consider that a snub and, well those gods weren't exactly known for ignoring such things. "Merciful" Poseidon please have patience with him, a mere slow mortal.
In several areas of the UK (like where I'm from 😂), people still call the fireplace 'the hearth'. Guess we must owe a pretty big debt to Hestia after all these years of lighting them without sacrificing wine 😂 Pour one out for Hestia boys 😎🍾🍷
i would love to see you make a video about the various nymphs that appear in greek mythology... they seem to randomly pop up in the myths with little other context. i've always been curious about their origin story :)
Cool! I love DanMachi, so it's nice to know more about the actual mythology of the characters. 9:30 makes sense in the anime. Has Jon covered princess Cassandra before in another video?
Before I even start watching I have to say, "YES! Time comes when it sees fit!" Hestia, I agree, is soooooo under-appreciated, so I'm glad she lit a fire under (or inside) someone to make some rectifying to this bit of attrition. 😉😎 And remember, Sky Den was the one who told Jabba that Jon fried poor Greedo. lol.
Hestia is the name of Liv's new weapon in Gray Raven global. Liv is a character that heals people/constructs but she is slowly dying in return. I don't know why they named her weapon after Hestia other than it is fire element. 😁
Hestia (autocorrect is actually trying to make me type Bestia...wtf) has been severely undervalued within the Pantheon. She has always been my favorite.
This episode reminded me of the fact that an alternate version of Hestia is featured as one of the deities we see most frequently in Danmachi; that version seems to almost be in perpetual debt and plagued by a few other issues. Regarding deities, and mythologies in general, that deserve more attention, I would like to point to Irish mythology. The Tuatha Dé Danann, which literally translates to the "Tribe of Danu," are the pre-Christian gods of Ireland, but most surviving accounts of their lore are so mangled and messed with by the Catholic monks, who ironically were the first to officially transcribe the stories in written form, that there are a lot of missing pieces or have been altered so heavily by the Christian monks that it's nearly impossible to tell what was added or changed. Given the group's full name, it's safe to say Danu was a big deal. But the native name for Ireland, even to this day, is Eire (pronounced Air-Uh, or Eh-Rah); this is actually a reference to the goddess Ériu, but thanks to the medalling of the Catholic monks, there's not nearly enough surviving lore about her to explain why it's her name that's slapped on the Emerald Isle as the official name used by her native residents. And one of the nearly forgotten gods from Irish lore is Crom Cruach, a literal giant with only a single eye, and the medieval depictions of him are more pathetically sad than terrifyingly intimidating, which is a shame because of just how menacing and dangerous serving stories about him are. But he mostly gets a backseat in Irish lore these days, thanks in part to the tales of Cu Chulain, who does have a few stories about having encountered different members of the Tuatha, even been sent to learn from them in their sacred cities during what was likely his teen years and earning the right to wield the mighty spear Gaebolg. Technically the sword Excalibur does feature in Celtic lore, even some among the Irish Celts, but this is by its ancient Gaelic/Celtic name of Calagbolg, and English speakers are really good at having some disconnect and improper association. For example, popular media would have you believe that Excalibur is the sword King Arthur of Britannia pulled from the stone, but that's an entirely different sword named Calaburn, also known as the "Sword of Selection" which has the schtick of only coming out from from wherever it's embedded by one who has the potential to be a true ruler, Ecalibur was watched over and tended to by the Lady of the Lake, and there are even a few lines in some Arthurian tales about Arthur having to return the sword to her before he dies. Not to mention, popular depictions of both blades are technically wrong, to an insane degree. Looking at the time Arthur, and the swords, are said to have been around proves this by virtue of all the swords seen in popular media being well-known blades from eras well after the stories are said to have happened.
I've fallen a bit behind with your uploads, but when I saw you did Hestia I was so convinced that at some point you were going to say: "home is where the hearth is." I was wrong. 😆 But it's nice to see her get some modern day spotlight regardless. I read The Egypt Game when I was really young or and it introduced me to pantheons, but Greek mythos was the first one I really dove deep into so I always love to see you curbed back into the lesser know Greek deities. However, so pumped to know more Egyptian lore is upcoming. It has such a different flavor.
I've been looking around on the atu index and I think it would be interesting to do an episode on "the wolf/bear and the fox". It's not that popular a story but it was interesting seeing how many different variations there were. The versions seem to fall under ATU 1, 2, 41, 43, and probably more.
Here is a God for you. How about the God of keys or doorways, the god in the Percy Jackson books while they're lost in the maze and Hera tells that God to help them out, or something like that, it's been a while since I read that book.
I’m just starting the video and I got a story idea: Prometheus stole fire from Hestia, meaning he sorta stole fire from everybody, resulting in the immense punishment
