The Complete Story Of Artifact And The People That Loved It

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Artifact is a Dota 2 digital trading card game developed and published by Valve.
With promises of a robust esports scene at launch, the inclusion of Richard Garfield in its development, and rooted in the Dota universe, many believed Artifact had the makings for success. However, upon launch things started to downhill with the hype quickly dissipating and player numbers entering a steep decline, but why?
This is the complete story of Artifact and the tragedy of Valve's Dota card game.
0:00 - Intro
1:22 - The Hype
14:54 - The Beta
24:58 - The Launch
28:11 - The Long Haul
35:04 - The Big Tournament
40:26 - The System
45:53 - The Silence
52:32 - The Sequel
1:03:04 - The End
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@Akshonesports 2 года назад

We hope you guys enjoyed this video that we put together. It was definitely one of the most ambitious ones yet from us, taking months of research, writing, interviews, and editing, but was something fun to attempt! Did you ever try Artifact? If so, what was your experience like?

@BigL10000 2 года назад

crazy video. Honestly big props to everyone involved! You guys can really be proud of this one

@ccmm4094 2 года назад

INSTASUB after this. So well made.

@dimaskhadafi2226 2 года назад

NOW MAKE ABOUT RUNETERRA. I SEE THAT YOU HAVEN'T MADE A SINGLE VIDEO ABOUT IT

@bobbydworm 2 года назад

I’m only 5 minutes in but I love this type of video!

@exoqqen 2 года назад

recovering from my biontech shot, perfect video to listen to while in bed!

@victorzheng8042 2 года назад

It’s pretty ironic that basically every popular legends of runeterra streamer was an artifact refugee.

@rogerbacon7746 2 года назад

All except for the papaya lord grapplr, forged from the fires of missing allegiance from the depths of runeterra itself.

@Akshonesports 2 года назад

Card game skills generally carry over well between game to game so it makes sense.

@QuintaFeira12 2 года назад

@@rogerbacon7746 Grapplr? That guy was on Artifact too.

@SonyEricson850 2 года назад

@@rogerbacon7746 Grapplr was one of the most consistent Artifact 1.0 streamers

@Lsr7845 2 года назад

Taking even one more step back: A lot of Artifact streamers had a background in Gwent. An interesting journey.

@Breakingfasst88 2 года назад

1 hour? Oh this gon' get good.

@IdleAtre 2 года назад

And thanks to artifact, we now have one of the best tournament organizers ever, WePlay is doing incredible work in dota 2.

@lil_Amatsu 2 года назад

And Tekken too!

@Smoke_Snake 2 года назад

I am happy for them. They seem to be genuinely good guys. I am not really into Dota, so I never heard about them, so I was worried, that these attempts ruined the company. I am glad they survived. :)

@Lo-Kag 2 года назад

Only after finishing the video, which I liked quite a lot, did I realize the missed opportunity to actually explain the game and its mechanics. Why did it seem more difficult? How did the lane works? Why isnt it as expensive as Hearthstone even when it seems to be more expensive, etc. Wish those would have been covered

@sheikneedles9250 2 года назад

This is my one criticism of all their videos

@DD-fs7pg Год назад

Yeah the f2p dilemma is interesting since hearthstone was obviously more expensive but the difference is introduction, progression, and rewards. Artifact had none of that; it was like a physical card game back in the early 2000s and that just won't fly anymore. Not to mention they were basically using the cs:go monetization strategy which again won't fly anymore with new games

@unrealoutlaw 2 года назад

I'm hoping Akshon makes more of these type of videos.

@thadex454 2 года назад

way better than thescoreesports who just do videos reading twitter tweets and wiki pages for content

@thadex454 2 года назад

One of the best esports channels on RU-vid

@arielariel1176 2 года назад

@@thadex454 they should rename to thescoretwittertwitchsports

@TheSquareOnes 2 года назад

The "terrible for spectators" aspect was definitely what kept me out, I tried to watch a few people play it and it was weirdly difficult to follow. The game clearly had a ton of work put into the visuals but it seemed to have all gone to the wrong places, like the overly ornate boards. Coupled with no F2P option to go try it out for yourself and it's not hard to see why that would turn a lot of people away, you had to spend $20 just to have a decent chance at even figuring out what the game was.

@marfology 2 года назад

it's a shame because once you actually got through the tutorials and into a game, it was very fun.

@madeofwax92 2 года назад

@@marfology I don't think any game failure will ever top Artifact for me. I fell in love with it. I am not much of a card game player, but i've dabbled in MTG and Hearthstone, but Artifact was just exactly what I wanted. Pain.

@javierlopezruiz7300 2 года назад

I really hope Runeterra keeps doing fine and making progress as a game, it seems like is one of the few ccgs that don't view players as a money machine. I think they learnt from artifact and made it more enjoyable for casual players in some way

@glider210 2 года назад

I hope so too. Comparing Runeterra to hearthstone (a game I sunk a lot of hours and only ever bought their starter bundle) I can say Runeterra is leagues more generous than hearthstone or any other online cars game.

@imanafdar 2 года назад

@@glider210 how about gwent?

@TheDarkstar3601 2 года назад

@@glider210 "leagues more generous" is that a pun? Hehe

@gravelor78 2 года назад

@@TheDarkstar3601 why do i see you everywhere

@thoseriseofkingdomsadswith972 2 года назад

Runeterra is Riot's entry game. It's never gonna make them money, but they're gonna keep it alive because it expands all of their League related IPs and serves as a gateway for people. They need it for the MMO.

@SBCurley 2 года назад

The set up to SunsFan’s tournament prize pool was great. Laughed out loud

@ShaddyFromHatena 2 года назад

I'm still terribly sad about artifact. It looked like everything I wanted in a card game and yet it was plagued by so much awful. Rest in peace buddy.

@winwillkim 2 года назад

Artifact- a hour long group therapy session

@davideden3720 2 года назад

The combination of being hard to watch and a 20$ entry barrier is what doomed artifact. Many people who might have enjoyed the game never tried it because of that I think.

@ismael9914 2 года назад

Personally what killed for me was the 20 dolar + ingame market/purchases. I started MTG with Arena, but left it because every set it asked: money or and absurd ammount of time. With the price barrier I hoped that at least the rest of cards would be free, simply play a few hours and you got any deck. Other videos talking about Artifact commented on how even when it was active, you could get all the cards for 35$, but by then, everyone knew the game was death

@letsmakeit110 2 года назад

probably the competitive audience this game is meant to attract plus so many people getting a month-long head start. I wouldn't want to try to play catchup either tbh. better to have a staggered launch for more casual games where most of the playerbase wont care if they ever git gud I've never heard of this game but these interviewers seem incredibly tone deaf. Like yeah it was fun for you because you got to skip ahead of everyone else. It doesn't matter how good the game is if one half of the playerbase is funding the other half.

@letsmakeit110 2 года назад

I cant stand these people honestly I'm glad their game is dead. Just got to the part where random creatures spawn and they're like yeah it doesn't matter. I've never even played this game and it seems obvious to me that a random 2/2 matters a lot more, when you have two new players with two starter decks, than it does when you have two veterans with powerful decks and combos. 'our game is unique because you have to think ahead' none of these people would get past 1000 elo in chess.

@r.henryjr.1533 2 года назад

@@letsmakeit110 >I've never even played the game >I clearly know more than people who have extensively played the game

@letsmakeit110 2 года назад

@@r.henryjr.1533 let me dumb it down for you. If our decks are all 1/1s then a random 2/2 matters a lot. If our decks are all 10/10s then a random 2/2 doesn't matter very much. These people who got their 10/10s for free to shill the game seem oblivious to how someone might have a different experience with their 1/1s

@kelvintay1803 2 года назад

im quite sadden that this video didnt get much traction as the rest of your other video. by far the best video on your channel and it shows.

@Evamme534 10 месяцев назад

Now that's irony, a great video which didn't succeed compared to the creators other creations about a great game which didn't succeed compared to the creators other creations.

@ShadowXIII13 2 года назад

Man the WePlay organization sounds like a haven for gamers and devs. After the recent debacle of Antivision-Blizzard it's comforting to know that there're actually great companies in the industry.

@nightfire_CSGO 2 года назад

WePlay Academy League events in CSGO have better production value than top tier 1 tournaments

@KaiserMattTygore927 2 года назад

The Artifact reveal reaction is still the funniest event in gaming history.

@KuhoinX 2 года назад

Diablo Immortal was funnier.

@durururururururu 2 года назад

it probably scared them. "if we ever fucking make Half-Life 3 we better make it like our lives depend on it, because it totally is" and then they made Half-Life Alyx.

@iwakeupandboomimarat 2 года назад

that and peggle 2

@rorobear1940 2 года назад

I'm very impressed with the production quality of this video - it feels like a real documentary. The thoughtful structure and pacing kept me engaged the entire runtime. I loved Artifact, and this video brought back a lot of memories for me. Thank you for making it!

@killocker 2 года назад

It almost feels like LoR was paying attention to what Artifact got right with tournament systems and more activity on board, and not just focus on what made Artifact plumet or what Hearthstone was doing on the other end.

@johnpauljonesisabadass8134 2 года назад

Devs actually was planning LoR before Hearthstone then they dropped the plans when HS released, If they didn't dropped it and didn't remake it, LoR would've flopped too

@latrodectusmactans7592 2 года назад

LoR does several things right that Artifact missed. Most notably, it actually had a variety of fun buildaround cards in the first set.

@blehaman5950 2 года назад

@Richard Sejour 14 million players + new events / cards every month + no Chinese release + consumer-friendly monetization + fixed balance changes = game’s stagnating

@blehaman5950 2 года назад

@Richard Sejour LoR’s 1 year anniversary statistics page said 14 million. Twitch viewership has almost nothing to do with the amount of players the game actually has, especially card games. Hearthstone has about 20 million players worldwide and has roughly 20k viewers. Believe it or not but most casual toilet warriors (who make up most of a card game’s core audience) don’t care abt watching Twitch. The fact that you don’t understand how big a Chinese audience is for a game’s demographic shows you know nothing about what makes games successful.

@McJethroPovTee 2 года назад

@Richard Sejour not every player watches twitches. Chinese market is BIG.

@edo27 2 года назад

ONE HOUR?? Damn i was looking for something quick to add to my work playlist and this is amazing. I love not having to cycle through vids quickly XD good work

@thadex454 2 года назад

Better content than all the esports Twitch drama channels out there. These guys are underrated

@KeyT3ch 2 года назад

Damn man! You should do one on Autochess, Underlords, and the underlying development of these games. TFT and Hearthstone Battlegrounds as well!

@Camanater98 2 года назад

Already looking forward to the road to OW2 documentary 🤣 we appreciate y’all!

@maarin9184 2 года назад

Amazing video. Been watching card game stream for years now and Artifact is still one of the best I've had the pleasure to enjoy. The WePlay tournament had the best production value (and it was just so fun and comfy with great casters) I've seen on an esports event to this day.

@Akshonesports 2 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@profpeanut 2 года назад

I'm glad Artifact made some good in its short life, but hearing a lot of these content creators reminds me of how I feel about Gigantic and its closure. And who knows how many other dead multiplayer games out there have inspired similar stories, known mostly by people who have long since had to grow past those games' endings?

@GoScience123 2 года назад

Anyone else remember battlefield play4free? :(

@xXxUrbanNinjaxXx 2 года назад

@@GoScience123 yeppp good times

@MrDeadDivision 2 года назад

Look into Achron. Cry with me

@Dracobyte 2 года назад

@@MrDeadDivision Or Everquest Next!

@thebananas6483 Год назад

I feel like there will be more of those stories in the decades to come. The 'live service multiplayer game' is a fairly recent concept, so most of the biggest, most popular ones are still active to varying degrees. There will come a day when people will be like "Remember Destiny 2? Man, so much potential. I put thousands of hours into it back in the day. Yet somehow always walked away frustrated lol." "What ever happened to Seige? Haven't heard about that game in over a decade. What killed it?" "Oh and do you remember those Overwatch games back in the 2010's-2020's? Oh yeah, that was when League of Legends was a thing. "God League, that game was toxic as hell. Glad it finally died." "Don't forget those early BR's like Fortnite and Apex." "Now you're going way back."

@gnardawgyt 2 года назад

Phenomenal documentary. I can really tell how important scrutinization of the finer details in retelling the history and player experience of Artifact was for this video. Good work!

@codyflores-jauregui4595 2 года назад

This was an amazing. You're team has a knack for long form production and I would 100% watch another one again.

@wisemonkey8485 2 года назад

Free to play online game is a must here in south-east asia as it will definitely would get more players that would only spend money in the long haul. ver 1.0 of artifact was the opposite of how valve makes online games as it leans to catering to the elite esport players or some people that has money to throw.

@thechknnuggetgod1709 2 года назад

An hour long banger? I’ll go get some popcorn

@SpaceRampage 2 года назад

It's an hour long hauler...

@DemoEvolvedGaming 2 года назад

This is a legendary-tier documentary on the game. Production quality is amazing. BGM amazing. Wow great job Akshon.

@rtfcr 2 года назад

As the once voice of the Artificers Guild. Thank you for this. As Sunsfan has his tournament for closure, I guess I finally get mine

@nintendonewsreleases4415 2 года назад

These videos are so incredibly made, I can’t believe they don’t have a massive audience

@MintCity 2 года назад

Watching Magwai come so far since his days playing Duelyst… wow. Love the guy.

@harrysteel864 2 года назад

Now you've reminded me about duelyst :( wish I could play that game again

@BK-ku1zt 2 года назад

@@harrysteel864 ahh damn, had no idea Duelyst shut down, was a whole bunch of fun.

@theowijnen6893 2 года назад

Wow, didn't expect an hour long video out of this channel. I'm gonna enjoy this one over the next few days

@ChayBenji 2 года назад

It's a sin that this video hasn't got more viewership, what a wonderfully informative video on the project. Like many I was completely uninformed going into this video, and only knew of the terrible passing horror-stories the community had to endure. This video almost watched as if it were a love letter, an ode to the community that gave Artifact everything. God damn I love a good esports documentary.

@MrJoekinggiant74 2 года назад

Not into card games, but I love history lessons like this

@d4rksh4dow4 2 года назад

I know this type of vid is hard to make, but i need MOAR VID LIKE THIS. Love it guys

@ph1lny3 2 года назад

I absolutely love the coverage of both popular and niche scenes. I think aspiring game devs can look at these and get an idea of what will make a solid formula for play patterns, models, etc. Especially when they see what went wrong, or how a game can become a cult hit, so they can be more dedicated to polishing a project even when it didn't have the best initial launch. As a viewer, I love that I'm getting introduced to scenes I didn't even know existed. Reminds me of when I discovered the competitive Age of Empires and Custom Robo communities for the first time.

@level3xfactor 2 года назад

Fantastic video! I hope you guys do more long form videos in the future!

@TheMisterEpic 2 года назад

Phenomenal video, I remember following the game throughout 2018, and being super hyped. Upon release I immediately was disappointed, too many features were locked behind paywalls and the lack of progression/ladder system made the game boring. I still check in on the artifact subreddit every so often, and it seems that it's finally dying down as well

@subtlewhatssubtle 2 года назад

Artifact was the right game from the wrong people. Gameplay wise, it was reasonable in most of the critical areas: primary loop, engagement, conveyance. Solid. People generally got it if they had even a passing acquaintance with MOBAs and TCGs. Problem is, this isn't what people wanted from Valve. A market for a game doesn't just spring up overnight; you need some sort of core to build off of and launch into, and Artifact just didn't have one, couldn't build one, and couldn't keep one. There's a reason Hearthstone still has a few hundred thousand users active at any given time.

@latrodectusmactans7592 2 года назад

The primary loop of Artifact was not okay. Games took forever and were exhausting, and often lacked the satisfying big moments that make people latch onto card games in the first place.

@sebastienvivas9319 2 года назад

You have done amazing work here. Huge props. I love Artifact more then anything else. My heart was crushed when I learned it was being abandoned and discontinued. I still play both Classic for draft play and Foundry to 1v1 with my girlfriend.

@KuzuTomoki 2 года назад

Brosephs, I can't believe ya'll still deliver on hour-long content, you mad lads!

@enomiellanidrac9137 2 года назад

That bit about people loving to bash on a project with high expectation that falter is so true and him following with the CP2077 comparison is on point as I remember being very alone defending my experience of that game which was and still is very good.

@trevorcardozo9354 2 года назад

Amazing content here, akin to Noclip level deep dive, minus industry insiders. Keep it up, this was an amazing watch, would love to see more work like this.

@Akshonesports 2 года назад

Much appreciated!

@Programarchive 2 года назад

I'm so glad that you guys produced this video.

@airone7794 2 года назад

The production level of this video is so good. Great job Akshon team !

@Akshonesports 2 года назад

Thank you!

@Lynch2507 2 года назад

Dude just drops an hour-long video essay on that one game that got the really funny "YEAAAAAAH- awwwwww" reaction, the absolute madman

@Mark-hn1vu 2 года назад

Can you tell me what the yeah aww refetence is?

@amacheez3270 2 года назад

@@Mark-hn1vu search up DotA Artifact game reveal reaction

@Mark-hn1vu 2 года назад

@@amacheez3270 Ty

@Lynch2507 2 года назад

@@Mark-hn1vu the opening bit with the reveal, it doesn't show the full reaction of the crowd. When Artefact appeared, the crowd lost their shit and then "a dota card game" appeared and ti was a full 180. Honestly, one of my favorite announcements

@kattywhy4487 2 года назад

Artifact's built-in tournament lobby is the best, it was so easy to join or even host tournament within the game. Every other games (not just card games) should definitely look into this.

@keithgo9885 2 года назад

Wow. I thoroughly enjoyed this video. The production is off the charts. Keep going! I’ve got notifications turned on.

@hanselabs13 2 года назад

This is awesome! You just should do a docu series where every episode is about a certain game and put it up on Netflix!! There's already a handful of games out there that are worth doing documentary like this such as Cyberpunk, No Man's Sky, Warcraft Reforged. Very well done, guys.

@Akshonesports 2 года назад

Haha thanks, glad to hear that you liked the video. We looked into Netflix before, but there's a whole bunch of licensing issues when it comes to footage, especially that of videos games / esports broadcasts so it might be a while before we get our own Netflix show.

@YugiSatan 2 года назад

What killed Artifact- $20 entry 'barrier' instead of $5 or even Free then just micro transactions for packs, sleeves, etc.

@tylerngu5493 2 года назад

1 hour! I hope Akshon makes more of these, I love it!

@NotAnthonyX 2 года назад

the editing in this video is nuts. good stuff man

@DayOfCasual 2 года назад

This is like a full fledged documentary on topics I am gravitating around ever slightly. Gonna see if I find more and sub afterwards!

@mcdonkey500 2 года назад

i remember people starting streaming porn, tv shows and even gore vids under the artifact directory on Twitch

@blakelively3242 2 года назад

Thank you so much for this. Was always interested in trying Artifact but it never seemed like a good time to get in and, just as it was, it just stopped. This video seems like such a thoughtful and earnest send off for a game that looked like it meant a lot to the people you got footage from and the way this channel so consistently manages to paint such caring portraits of these games that came and went is one of the reasons why I enjoy the content here so much. I normally expect vitriolic parroting of online echo speak from longer videos on video games, but this video among the many other videos on this channel manage to convey those sentiments with such a measured portrayal from so many perspectives that the talking heads involved actually feel like people.

@airone7794 2 года назад

I don't know who are the people behind this channel but the investment they display on most of the videos is truly praisable. I enjoyed every minutes of that one.

@Akshonesports 2 года назад

Thanks so much for the kind words

@asilo- 2 года назад

i have no clue how this video has 30k views yet is one of the best videos i have watched in a long time

@RamboFett 2 года назад

Been on a binge of your fighting games videos and ended up on this Artifact piece, love both Dota, the FGC and now ... your channel

@anonduckduck 2 года назад

We need more long-form documentaries on the channel. I’ve heard this story many times, but this was so well executed that I couldn’t help but stay

@Glace-gone 2 года назад

you guys were WAY too nice about monetisation. thats 100% of the reason i and my friends didnt bother with it. the booing crowd was almost certainly because valve's first game in years was the biggest cashgrab in a genre that accepted it, and you call it "an unusual monetisation method"?

@ya.fanat.trapa.zhestkogo 2 года назад

>biggest cashgrab >20$ game >60k peak online What r u talking about? U people r so dumb.

@frankytheshipwright7680 2 года назад

@@ya.fanat.trapa.zhestkogo 60k players at launch, because the game was the first new game by Valve in 12 fucking years. Then literally next month the 60k players went down to 5k and then next months less than 1k players, the game died in 3 months, and currently the game sits at 60 average peak players.

@Mrcherrypicker Год назад

GOD DAMN!! This is one of my favorite videos from the channel period.

@henriquenavesdasilva244 2 года назад

I didn't get to play artifact and this is kinda unrelated, but seeing these people during the interviews made me realize how much there are others like me out there who aren't necessarily under the spotlight and this video encouraged me to seek those "others" out. Very random and not anything with to do with the subject, but thank you for this video. It might have just changed my life forever... and for the better!

@javelin9979 2 года назад

and then we got Legends of Runeterra. and everything was ok.

@heromedley 2 года назад

its riots job to give a dead games players a second home

@Cephalon_inviss 2 года назад

well, its free. while artifacts is just cashgrab

@zulhadi2303 2 года назад

Cover duelyst! The game had so much potential

@KittSpiken 2 года назад

Man, I COMPLETELY forgot about Duelyst! That game was crazy fun.

@ashstyles756 2 года назад

Was great to see a long vid like this! Felt really in depth

@NoBox. 2 года назад

Incredible video, High production value. You really deserve more views and subscribers!

@azzo3449 2 года назад

Such a shame I really like the game but damn is the management of the game piss poor...

@naruto33445566 2 года назад

After watching the entire Animajor and watching this, my main take away is that WePlay is the best tournament organizer ever

@reno.olavarria 2 года назад

I justclicked the notification and got caught in a really good video, I only realized how long it was after 45 minutes xD great job, loved the video and learned a lot from a game that failed so spectacularly

@alexthering6615 2 года назад

Hope you guys do more videos like these even just once every few months.

@ericksalvador5328 2 года назад

An hour long video, Akshon you shouldn't have!

@ceebeetan 2 года назад

Maybe you can add 'Documentary:" or "Feature:" or "A Detailed Look:" or a word that can describe these hour long videos (if they are gonna be a thing!). Viewers may adjust expectations and feel more inclined to commit an hour to watch!

@popo237 2 года назад

I mean there is that timestamp thing

@thevenerabledoubleu1771 2 года назад

@@popo237 but you can't see the time stamp in the thumbnail

@nikolowolokin 2 года назад

@@thevenerabledoubleu1771 bruh thumbnail timestamps?

@Thesmus 2 года назад

@@popo237 i believe in mobile you can't see timestamps

@WyrmLimion 2 года назад

What a great documentary! Gave us an amazing window into this game and the people who called it home.

@MikuHatsune159 2 года назад

This sure was a piece of engaging work, as someone who would never set my foot into playing a card game myself. I feel deeply saddened that the plans fell through for this game as there seemed to be major potential. At the very least some players got to keep some rather fond memories.

@LilBoyHexley 2 года назад

This and Diablo Immortal are the best examples of how managing expectations during an announcement is very important. Particularly when your studio has numerous *highly* beloved and anticipated IPs. While lukewarm reactions may have been inevitable. It was definitely the treatment of these announcements, as these big center pole reveals, that garnered such a negative reflex. I think non-card game fan’s natural reaction would be skepticism or ambivalence. But when one of your favorite developers says we got something you’re going to be excited about, and plays a bit coy with it, people’s gut instinct is going to turn against them when the actual reveal comes out.

@zachaquak 2 года назад

No matter whether you like card games or not it is disappointing to see the company to not come out with a game for 5 years and then get a card game that shouldn’t take 5 years to make

@JTAI2 5 месяцев назад

great video! very long, but very awesome.

@guyfromostrava 2 года назад

This really looked like a proper documentary. Well done!

@johngrimm2074 2 года назад

I am addicted to Legends of Runeterra right now, becuase of the Pirority passing play type. And If artifact was free from the get go, I would've loved to at least try it for like 2-4 weeks at most.

@kembel2761 2 года назад

I was waiting for them to finish Artifact. I wanted to really play it as my main card game

@NachozMan 2 года назад

This editing is AMAZING, wow instant sub, this is the kind of quality is Movie level! This is a Movie, hour long! Love it! Kinda sad to see what happened to Artifact.

@chiahunghsiehlu5791 2 года назад

Amazing work as always guy, enjoyed this one from end to end

@ZetruH 2 года назад

That was really well done, very enjoyable, have you considered doing one on Heroes of the Storm?

@joshcarr6883 2 года назад

They do have one on heroes of the storm! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W7F67W7sglI.html

@DarkHarlequin 2 года назад

Good editing and interesting topic. I would have loved a bit more of an 'outside' look into the controversies, the leadup, the marketing, the communication etc. As it is now it feels a bit more "But it was so great why are people to blind/mean/stupid to udnerstand how great it is?" It's understandable as the creators and their interview partners all seem to be fans of the game and the goal of the video is to make that voice heard not dredging up past turmoil. It's just me that would have like a bit more an analytical look. Saying 'people are just too impatient/stupid/toxic/greedy' always feels like a copout from actually looking at what happened and why people reacted the way they did 🤔

@stropex2165 2 года назад

Damn you guys probably have been putting a lot of effort into this very high quality video! It was very interesting and informative! Keep it up guys 👍👍

@kyutaekyung862 2 года назад

I like the new direction this chanel is taking I love the longer documentary like content. The story telling is complaint and grasping even tho I don't care about artifact. Keep up the good work

@DevinK520 2 года назад

"People don't take card games seriously because they think they're children's games" No, they don't take them seriously because you have to spend hundreds (but more likely) thousands of dollars to be viable competitively

@LargeInCharge77 2 года назад

seriously im a card game player and when I heard that I was like no that's not correct at all.

@ARX146 2 года назад

IMO, It's the timing of announcement that really let a lot of people down, same with diablo immortals

@thadex454 2 года назад

AAA devs not making AAA games? LOL

@ARX146 2 года назад

@@thadex454 more like promoting a spin off before the main series, when all the fans are waiting decades for news of the main series.

@peoul1 2 года назад

@@thadex454 IM okay with what ever games they make. Creative game is not always aaa budget lvl. But look diablo imortal reskin mobile game they Made

@glibchubik4090 2 года назад

The effort you put into this is amazing. You have my like!

@joackocirica3037 2 года назад

Love the longer format but don´t abandone the short videos pleace

@Cassapphic 2 года назад

It feels so weird seeing people defend the monetisation model when even if “its cheaper than heartstone” is a decent defence. Building a digital card game exactly like its a physical one just doesn’t work. Especially as the big point was the marketplace to basically give a digital card game a secondary market, but with valve always taking a cut, the only reason to sell was if you really only wanted one deck and sold everything else, the card was bad and nobody wanted it, or you wanted to leave and recoup some of your lost cash. And seeing the game close down is exactly why this model doesn’t work, because the cards aren’t really your property the same way they are in a physical tcg.

@Cassapphic 2 года назад

@Richard Sejour You’re missing the point here, I’m not defending the system most games use, just saying this system doesn’t work because it didn’t understand that digital card games aren’t just a tcg on a computer screen, the audience and expectations are different. Part of what makes a secondary market work in a tcg is the fact its secondary, buying singles a direct competition to sealed product, not another fork of monetisation where the game owners take a cut.

@Noisy_Click 2 года назад

It goes one hour, this is gonna be interesting

@cheoser407 2 года назад

I didn't even realise the video was 1 hour long until half way thru, great video btw

@absenteechild8542 2 года назад

One of my close friends was in the last 70 active players of Artifact. He was obsessed with the game, but he was also a marketing student. I remember him ranting to me “the second there’s a debate about your monetization you lost. No one questions magic, that’s how they’ve always done cards. It’s fucking bullshit”

@FabschOblivion669 2 года назад

Just the initial reaction of the game was more than enough to doom it.

@j0nasbs 2 года назад

That announcement was like going to a restaurant, asking for the chef's choice and seeing the waiter come out with a tray of twix bars... Nothing wrong with twix bars, infact, you would be delighted to see a tray of twix bars 99,9% of the time, just not at that particular context.

@FabschOblivion669 2 года назад

@@j0nasbs Yeah, it’s honestly a HUGE contrast compared to Riot’s LoR. It was announced during an important date within their 10 year anniversary stream. Difference is that it wasn’t the only announcement, they delivered on what they promised with their monetization policy, and they actually listen to their playerbase’s feedback. It’s Leagues better than Artifact ever was.

@dieptrieu6564 2 года назад

@@FabschOblivion669 1st impression is important. But how you manage your game is still what decide your fate. Despite all the bad press, Artifact still manage to gain some big numbers after launch. They just doesn't know how to keep the momentum. While Riot did well with their first impression. I'd still put more credit on their management side more than the marketting. Had Valve did the same to artifact, they could've survived. Such a shame

@Stroggoii 2 года назад

Yeah you really can't do shit when people refuse to give you a chance. So many games get made excuses for fuckup after fuckup but when the memes say you can't succeed, you can't succeed.

@FabschOblivion669 2 года назад

@@Stroggoii It really do be like that sometimes. In the entertainment industry, regardless of the piece of media (movies, games, comics, shows, etc) first impressions are EVERYTHING.

@Daraxu27 2 года назад

yay, underlords next

@williamboshi1855 2 года назад

I'm so expecting this episode and to put riots autochess success in contrast with underlord

@triadwarfare 2 года назад

Wait, autochess is still a thing? As of right now, Mobile MOBA, Genshin, and the strange crypto game is hot right now in south east asia, in which I do not play.

@williamboshi1855 2 года назад

@@triadwarfare I don't know if riots game(TFT?) is doing well or not. but this video is a 1h postmortem, can do the same for underlord

@allenchristianarizapa6232 2 года назад

@@williamboshi1855 riot's tft has 10million players per day, so i think yeah it doing all right

@krustbruh8841 2 года назад

@@williamboshi1855 it's doing great actually also their card game is also entering its 5 or 6th expansion later this week so every multiplayer game Riot has released has been successful for a online game

@moarfunxd 2 года назад

This vid made me subscribe. Really nice production value

@MitchellWinning 2 года назад

Fantastic video.. did not expect to watch an hour video about a game I know almost nothing about but here I am :)

@UseTheLess00 2 года назад

As someone who had no idea what Artifact was about, I can now see the many things Legends of Runeterra took from it and perfected

@craigtothec 2 года назад

I think what LoR does really well is maximizing gameplay complexity while minimizing mechanical complexity. The priority system (which it apparently got from Artifact) as well as things like banking extra spell mana are examples of simple mechanics that introduce a great level of gameplay complexity. Some of the other Artifact systems like the shop, multiple lanes, and the creep spawning strike me as things that add a lot of mechanical complexity without a sufficient payoff to the gameplay complexity. I haven't played it, so I might be wrong on some of those, but the creep spawning to me at least seems wholly unnecessary. Artifact game designers should have been focused on doing more with less.

@EspritFidget 2 года назад

That documentary feels very indulgent. I got PTSD watching it. It was like reading all over again those reddit or steam fanboys posts explaining that it was all a misunderstanding, that it was just bad press, that the game was excellent, that it's just a problem of "perception", etc. Maybe it's just that it gives so much space to those close-beta players (that were a HUGE part of the problem IMHO).