The Confusing Lore of Sonic The Hedgehog 

@mr.jinjin we meet again, mr.jinjin

@mr.jinjin honestly I need to so then I can go make a dead rising video

Classic is from another dimension now that consistency.

@@mediamuncher6982 The fuck is Sonic Team smoking?

@@CarvedDaWarped *Iizuka. Don't bring the whole team into this.

Cream is a all knowing godly being capable of destroying the world pretending to be a child. And now that you know G.U.N is sending a kill squad as we speak good day.

@@Sgt-Wolf wow thanks sergeant

@@Sgt-Wolf wow.

@@Sgt-Wolf Ah. I guess that explains why Huge Crisis is so close to Cream's house

@@klosyfielaer2006 Even to this day... damn.

Guess Izuka doesn't know their policy.

Nope.

@@narxmagee727 Their detectives you want on your sideeee

@@justcallmekai1554 They're directive's tracking down your criiiiime.

@@narxmagee727 Come along for a rideee *moves at light speed*

LOL Every human is in a fur suit except Eggman!!!!

That means it’s canon that G.U.N are furries

Rouge and Shadow taught G.U.N that they needed to dress up as animals and rebranded as “The Resistance”

To be honest the main cast are the only characters that look normal but the background characters look like a bunch copies of the avatar

@@jackisthebest1365 Right?

Honestly it may be headcanon but it's probably 20x better than whatever the "actual explanation" is if ever asked.

@@narxmagee727 I swear that has to be on purpose. It fits so well and would make Shadows line "Sonic..I think Ive discovered what the ultimate lifeform is..It might be youu!" have even more weight. But knowing Sega sometimes, they forget there own lore.

@@justcallmekai1554 Omg you're right. That would make more sense. Too bad stuff that connects so well like this seems to be the result of excessive digging.

@@justcallmekai1554 Imagine if Shadow tells that to Sonic in the next game when there is an intense fight at the end that Shadow can't fight. Sonic who isnt fighting with whatever the big threat is grabs the Chaos Emeralds and along with Shadow and other characters (maybe Blaze, Silver, Tails, and Knuckles since they've already used the Chaos Emeralds or Sol Emeralds before) have a climatic final boss battle.

I would suppose the behind-the-curtain role of Shadow is to represent the original Japanese design, that western marketing axed in favor of that SatAM Sonic, and the story inspiration is to retell the story of what really makes Sonic who he is: the author or the audience. Or it could be about how much Sonic can be made edgier without losing his core spirit, examining if the changes since Adventure were too much. Maybe prove the point that if Adventure had been too edgy, it would have looked like Shadow. Funnily echoed by the actual Shadow the Hedgehog game trying to keep that same cake while eating it.

Imagine trying to park in city escape only for a blue hedgehog to ram into it

Speed Highway from SA1 was under construction but in Generations it is more finished

imagine trying to drive in City Escape

Imagine driving through Grand Metropolis

Imagine if you need to pass through Central City but you need to take Radical Highway or either of the Routes from Tails or Rouge's driving levels

Why this is even a "controversy" among Sonic "fans" I'll never understand! People seem dead set against the idea of a world where humans and anthros coexist, but why? The common claim is "well there were no humans in the old games, so the old games MUST take place on a world of animals!" First of all, Eggman is a human (seriously, why do people just choose to ignore that), it's never hinted at or implied that he's from another dimension or planet, or that he's "the last of his kind" or whatever! Secondly, in the very first game there weren't any other anthros, just the little animal friends! It is also infuriating that people say things like "it just doesn't make any sense to have these random humanised animals walking around in a world of humans without some kind of explanation as to why they're there!" Because they seem to have no problem with this one random human walking around in a world of anthropomorphic animals with no explanation! It just makes no sense!

@@bowmaj8666 yes I too believe that humans and “mobians” coexist, Sandopolis Act 2 from S3K depicts murals of humans in the background. Whilst it’s obviously just standard Ancient Egyptian themed art, in the Sonic universe wouldnt it be strange if there were no humans? Also, just Angel Island’s presence in SA1 is evidence enough I think. Oh yea what do you think of the crappy 2 worlds thing?

@@SocksFC Which one? The crappy 2 worlds theory where humans and anthropomorphic animals exist on different planets/dimensions, or the crappy 2 worlds theory that the "Classic games" are set in an entirely separate universe to the "Modern games?" That pretty much sums up my feelings about this utter mess of a continuity, but it bears repeating, these decisions make absolutely no sense; they just make everything way more convoluted and confusing than they need to be. It's even worse that most of this stuff is never delved into in the games themselves. It's just mindless fan pandering!

@@bowmaj8666 yea I think separating classic from modern as 2 worlds is stupid, Angel Island is the link from Classic to (somewhat) Modern. I feel continuity was best handled by Naka

@@bowmaj8666 Because SatAM...

It's almost as if they're one in the same... Hmm...

@@ibilesfighter3.16 nah, couldn’t be possible. Ls mark confirms this

Difference is SplashDash didn't get absolutely wrecked by Cybershell

@@JDT-Loadsamoney But think about it: SplashDash loves Sonic Heroes. You know who else loves Sonic Heroes? That's right; LS Mark!

@@Laiser IS THOU IMPLYING THEY ARE THE SAME!?

Heheheh....ForeSHADOWing...

Tbf getting one ending in Shadow is tedious enough, so I don't blame anyone for not seeing the true ending of that game.

Well he made a promise to protect the world to Maria, it would only make sense to work with people that could help him maximize his effectiveness, besides he gets to work with his 2 best friends

@@im_terminallyonline what

@@im_terminallyonline hehe

Lol he lost the debate against cybershell so i guess he is going to keep hating on sa2 for a long time lol

@@angelgonzalez4871 That was LS Mark tho, this is SplashDash. Must be really feeling bad for his best friend.

Ls Mark and Splashdash think alike. They hated SA2 and love Sonic heroes. What if..........

@@angelgonzalez4871 he lost horribly, he legit argues like chris chan its hilarious

Hate sa2? Sounds trollish

The entirety of Expert Mode is part of a training procedure - like, all the maps are false planes of existence and Shadow's training for getting a job as an agent through these "emulations" made by GUN.

Even though it really doesn't make much sense, it's cool that they gave a reason for how Shadow would become a GUN agent. In one of the ARK levels, the Commander even tells Shadow that he recently became a grandfather and wants to invite him over to his house for tea.

That game also explains what happened to shadow between sa2 and heroes if you wait around at the final boss

@@borederlands5387 i can vouch! Eggman Explains it all and apalogizes for lying to shadow for being an android.

@@theswig2339 yeah the vid made it sound like mark just didn't know that dialogue existed, which i can't really blame him for to be honest

Love has never been so confusing.

epic

@@narxmagee727 w

I love the lore

then the cat goes and says he hate sa2.... whew.. "epic" indeed......... (BIG sarcasm)

The Archie comics explain this really well .

That's what I always thought. However it would he cool if characters like Infinite or other future villains taunt Shadow by reminding of Maria and things related with the 2005 game Shadow the Hedgehog. That will surely torture him and would connect the games

@@fabianugalde3789 that wouldn’t really work because Shadow dealt with all of that stuff and put it behind him. That’s why in Sonic 06 Mephiles taunts him with the future.

The easy fix for this wouldve been for the commander from shadow the hedgehog cameo in 06 and for shadow to have a 'just this once' mentality implying that they worked shit out between games

@@alexlee4154 There's actually some audio from the Shadow the Hedgehog VR missions(or something like that), that implies that Shadow starts training to join GUN.

Omg I thought the exact same thing like literally down to the word. I always personally thought it made a good amount of sense. Thanks for taking the words straight outta my mouth I guess.

@@narxmagee727 Mhm. If there's one thing 06 got right, it was the characterization of Shadow and Team Dark in general. It's the best he's been since SA2 and hasn't been matched since. It's sad what they did to him after

@@SoIstice Yeah, Team Dark really felt like a...well team. Shadow had his motivations and character in check and he knew what he wanted to do. Even if Mephilis was right even if the world chooses to be his enemy, he will fight like he always has (love that line). Fast forward to now and it doesn't feel like what he was in 06. He's become this edgy dude who sometimes care less about anything, he apparently isn't friends with Rouge and Omega even though they're the 2 people closest to him aside from Maria, and he just feels so shallow. He lost his lairs. The closest Team Dark as a whole has been is Sonic Forces but it's Sonic Forces so it wasn't really much. Oh well I still hold some hope that Team Dark and especially Shadow can find their footing again.

@@narxmagee727 you should know that shiro maekawa the father of shadow and sonic writer wrote sa1 2 heroes shadow story from 06 riders games storybook games from 1998 to 2009 he know what sonic and shadow is and oh right unleashed was from one of 06 writers and shadow the hedgehog game story was from lizuka himself so sega must bring back the best writer maekawa

I have never seen a Japanese person or a British person in real life with fucked up teeth like that

Damn bro, British people might not have teeth up to par with Americans but they ain’t that bad!

@@Uhhhh970 but when there bad, they are BAD

@@Uhhhh970 actually a test show English dental care is better then American dental care

We need that photo of Izuka Splash is always using except the teeth are bubbled up.

Izuka: They got like...amnesia.

Sonic Colors isn't even set on a single planet so... it's not inaccurate. lol

Even Planet Wisp is still a separate location. The wisps are only on Sonic’s world now because the wisps grew a fondness over Sonic.

The logical stuff here would be eggman with his time got planets from the infinite sides of the universe and got all these planets on his space park,remember,everything like this can be generated,and also should be a great theory

Egghead's so smart he found a way to get himself stuck on planet Mobius with Sonic. Born on Earth from the human dimension, some how ended up on Sonic's world. He's the smartest, dumbest human alive, lol.

That's the thing that's a bit irritating. They have the history of the universe they made to create something interesting or reinterpret things from the past in a new context but just... does nothing with it. This franchise has such waisted potential alot of the time.

Cant believe i actually just found you here of all places bro, another really passionate sonic fan i see lmao

@@justcallmekai1554 The writers need to be put in charge.

OH IT ACTUALLY DOES

How we can fix the sonic canon You know for all the complaining we do online about sonic we never actually use the ways we can actually use any of the outlets that can actually change anything What I mean by that is when people complain about there no money in sonics world or how team dark are not friends and all that it is usually on RU-vid or on some online chat room like Reddit. Places where sonic team are never going to see or here are complaints or places where they can at least pretend to ignore them. They never actually go to the sonic Twitter or Takashi Izuka’s Facebook account. Now hold on a minute I do not want you to just go complaining to Takashi Izuka about how everything wrong with sonic is his fault and demanding he change this or that in the lore. That would just make him want to ignore your complaints and have them less likely to be agnolaged. If we want him to listen to our opinions on why we need to do a few things number 1 Put non of the blame on Izuka and be polite and nice I am not saying be a suck up to him that could be off putting but I think he would be more willing to listen if you are polite to him and don’t treat him as everything is his fault. I would recommend starting with the words “are you aware that someone working for saga stated” insert your problem with canon here and explain why you think it contradicts what has been established in previous sonic games. I honestly don’t approve putting all the blame on Izuka when a lot of the claims like Team Dark are not friends are not made by him and he might not even be aware of it sonic is a big franchise I doubt he knows everything that is going on in it. These claims could come from anyone at saga and If Takashi Izuka is not aware of these things or at least not aware of how much people hate it. then if he became aware of it and realize how much people don’t like it he is one of the few people at saga who has the power to change the canon. If we make it If enough people make statements on his Facebook about how they don’t like it and how they think it contradicts canon then he might be willing to change it. After all he stated sonic was only as fast as light but when a fan posted him evidence that sonic is faster then light he said good reasearch suggesting he agreed with the fan. But if you go in putting the blame on him for these things he will be less willing to listen because he might feel he is the one who is being attacked. If you ask him politely “are you aware it has been stated by someone working for saga” that money dose not exist in sonics world and then give good point out how this contradicts canon I believe he will listen as long as you are nice and don’t suggest that anything Number 2 Give good reasons for how this contradicts canon and show examples If your reasoning is just that Well I don’t like it so it is bad then I don’t know about Izuka but I would not take you seriously. So best to be safe For the no money in sonic I would provide pictures of all the shops in sonic games particularly in sonic world adventure and sonic 06 Or how all the casinos in sonic really don’t make sense without money Or how there are dolar bills seen in sonic adventure 2 rouges level Or how we see coins in sonic adventure casino And non of that stuff come from me I got it from this video. And Finnally I would point out the times money was actually mentioned in sonic the times vector mentioned money about how a cash prose was mentioned in team sonic racing. how yen was mentioned in sonic colours the Japanese version. Number 3 Post it on his facebook where everyone can see it is more likely to respond if others can see it and it gets attention Don’t do him so only he can see it I know from experience that rarely works. 4 Make sure others do the same so it get as much attention as possible so please spread the word. 5 stop reading this and just do it go out and post something on Facebook asking Izuka if he is aware this stuff is being stated by someone working for saga and explain why you think it contradicts what was established in previous sonic games. Just go and do it know So to all those interested in my suggestions go just

Also, Shadow's game's plot would explain why GUN would be... gun-ho about him joining. The GUN Commander does not hate Shadow anymore. Furthermore, he and Shadow share a past, which means that since he realized the truth about Shadow and Shadow has forgiven humanity, they now have a very, very good reason to connect. They're the only thing that connects each other to their past. They're basically family.

@@PosthumanHeresy Exactly. You get it.

@@purple5823 Yeah, there's a lot of things in Sonic where you can draw very reasonable conclusions about how weird developments happened, but the writing never focuses on them. Robotnik's grandfather and presumably cousin were murdered by the government, he wants to take over the world because he believes he should be in charge, one can see how he got there given the people in charge killed his family. Knuckles kinda has an arc from Adventure 1 to Heroes in terms of him learning to relax and socialize. The first game forcing him into the world, the second game both forcing him to care about the world and him feeling attraction for the first time, and the third showing him actually socializing with Sonic and Tails as friends, showing that he's come to trust them and feel relaxed leaving Angel Island whereas he could still be duped by Robotnik in Adventure and was resigned to fate. Shadow's plot is mostly ruined by the presentation, but the GUN Commander is interesting as hell being Shadow's only link to his past.

@@PosthumanHeresy The only part where I have to disagree is Eggman wanting to take over the world due to his family's past since it seems like not even he knew what happened to his grandfather, as the government kept everything about the event top secret and he only found out about Shadow after he first found his grandfather's diary and when first seeing something about a "top secret weapon in prison island" he went straight there to take it and didn't even finish it, only finding out about the rest during the final story. He even returns to the diary in the advance series when he discovers Emerl. I like to think he looked up to his grandfather as possibly the (at the time) greatest scientist in the world and wanted to be just like him, but overtime his ego grew so massive that he felt like due to his genius, he deserved the entire world under his control and started his quest to take over the world.

Funny how in the beginning of the video he was criticized poeple for trying so hard to find plot holes that doesn't exist and yet he does himself.

How we can fix the sonic canon You know for all the complaining we do online about sonic we never actually use the ways we can actually use any of the outlets that can actually change anything What I mean by that is when people complain about there no money in sonics world or how team dark are not friends and all that it is usually on RU-vid or on some online chat room like Reddit. Places where sonic team are never going to see or here are complaints or places where they can at least pretend to ignore them. They never actually go to the sonic Twitter or Takashi Izuka’s Facebook account. Now hold on a minute I do not want you to just go complaining to Takashi Izuka about how everything wrong with sonic is his fault and demanding he change this or that in the lore. That would just make him want to ignore your complaints and have them less likely to be agnolaged. If we want him to listen to our opinions on why we need to do a few things number 1 Put non of the blame on Izuka and be polite and nice I am not saying be a suck up to him that could be off putting but I think he would be more willing to listen if you are polite to him and don’t treat him as everything is his fault. I would recommend starting with the words “are you aware that someone working for saga stated” insert your problem with canon here and explain why you think it contradicts what has been established in previous sonic games. I honestly don’t approve putting all the blame on Izuka when a lot of the claims like Team Dark are not friends are not made by him and he might not even be aware of it sonic is a big franchise I doubt he knows everything that is going on in it. These claims could come from anyone at saga and If Takashi Izuka is not aware of these things or at least not aware of how much people hate it. then if he became aware of it and realize how much people don’t like it he is one of the few people at saga who has the power to change the canon. If we make it If enough people make statements on his Facebook about how they don’t like it and how they think it contradicts canon then he might be willing to change it. After all he stated sonic was only as fast as light but when a fan posted him evidence that sonic is faster then light he said good reasearch suggesting he agreed with the fan. But if you go in putting the blame on him for these things he will be less willing to listen because he might feel he is the one who is being attacked. If you ask him politely “are you aware it has been stated by someone working for saga” that money dose not exist in sonics world and then give good point out how this contradicts canon I believe he will listen as long as you are nice and don’t suggest that anything Number 2 Give good reasons for how this contradicts canon and show examples If your reasoning is just that Well I don’t like it so it is bad then I don’t know about Izuka but I would not take you seriously. So best to be safe For the no money in sonic I would provide pictures of all the shops in sonic games particularly in sonic world adventure and sonic 06 Or how all the casinos in sonic really don’t make sense without money Or how there are dolar bills seen in sonic adventure 2 rouges level Or how we see coins in sonic adventure casino And non of that stuff come from me I got it from this video. And Finnally I would point out the times money was actually mentioned in sonic the times vector mentioned money about how a cash prose was mentioned in team sonic racing. how yen was mentioned in sonic colours the Japanese version. Number 3 Post it on his facebook where everyone can see it is more likely to respond if others can see it and it gets attention Don’t do him so only he can see it I know from experience that rarely works. 4 Make sure others do the same so it get as much attention as possible so please spread the word. 5 stop reading this and just do it go out and post something on Facebook asking Izuka if he is aware this stuff is being stated by someone working for saga and explain why you think it contradicts what was established in previous sonic games. Just go and do it know So to all those interested in my suggestions go just

Even though Shadow was working with Rouge and actively trying to save Omega in Episode Shadow.

He's just mad his best friend, LS Mark, lost a debate against the Sonic lore master, Cybershell.

Opinions exist ya know I'm a sonic fan and sa2 ain't a masterpiece It has more cons than pros

Sonic and Shadow stages are the only good part of the game. *Bye*

@@D00DM00D That's your opinion. To me, I found any Sonic Forces stages awful.

@@tiruliru1189 who said anything about Sonic Forces ?

It’s also supported by this hidden bit of dialogue Shadow has in final hazard. “*laughs* Sonic I think I figured out who’s the ultimate life form. It must be you!”

How we can fix the sonic canon You know for all the complaining we do online about sonic we never actually use the ways we can actually use any of the outlets that can actually change anything What I mean by that is when people complain about there no money in sonics world or how team dark are not friends and all that it is usually on RU-vid or on some online chat room like Reddit. Places where sonic team are never going to see or here are complaints or places where they can at least pretend to ignore them. They never actually go to the sonic Twitter or Takashi Izuka’s Facebook account. Now hold on a minute I do not want you to just go complaining to Takashi Izuka about how everything wrong with sonic is his fault and demanding he change this or that in the lore. That would just make him want to ignore your complaints and have them less likely to be agnolaged. If we want him to listen to our opinions on why we need to do a few things number 1 Put non of the blame on Izuka and be polite and nice I am not saying be a suck up to him that could be off putting but I think he would be more willing to listen if you are polite to him and don’t treat him as everything is his fault. I would recommend starting with the words “are you aware that someone working for saga stated” insert your problem with canon here and explain why you think it contradicts what has been established in previous sonic games. I honestly don’t approve putting all the blame on Izuka when a lot of the claims like Team Dark are not friends are not made by him and he might not even be aware of it sonic is a big franchise I doubt he knows everything that is going on in it. These claims could come from anyone at saga and If Takashi Izuka is not aware of these things or at least not aware of how much people hate it. then if he became aware of it and realize how much people don’t like it he is one of the few people at saga who has the power to change the canon. If we make it If enough people make statements on his Facebook about how they don’t like it and how they think it contradicts canon then he might be willing to change it. After all he stated sonic was only as fast as light but when a fan posted him evidence that sonic is faster then light he said good reasearch suggesting he agreed with the fan. But if you go in putting the blame on him for these things he will be less willing to listen because he might feel he is the one who is being attacked. If you ask him politely “are you aware it has been stated by someone working for saga” that money dose not exist in sonics world and then give good point out how this contradicts canon I believe he will listen as long as you are nice and don’t suggest that anything Number 2 Give good reasons for how this contradicts canon and show examples If your reasoning is just that Well I don’t like it so it is bad then I don’t know about Izuka but I would not take you seriously. So best to be safe For the no money in sonic I would provide pictures of all the shops in sonic games particularly in sonic world adventure and sonic 06 Or how all the casinos in sonic really don’t make sense without money Or how there are dolar bills seen in sonic adventure 2 rouges level Or how we see coins in sonic adventure casino And non of that stuff come from me I got it from this video. And Finnally I would point out the times money was actually mentioned in sonic the times vector mentioned money about how a cash prose was mentioned in team sonic racing. how yen was mentioned in sonic colours the Japanese version. Number 3 Post it on his facebook where everyone can see it is more likely to respond if others can see it and it gets attention Don’t do him so only he can see it I know from experience that rarely works. 4 Make sure others do the same so it get as much attention as possible so please spread the word. 5 stop reading this and just do it go out and post something on Facebook asking Izuka if he is aware this stuff is being stated by someone working for saga and explain why you think it contradicts what was established in previous sonic games. Just go and do it know So to all those interested in my suggestions go just

@@goldenboybenny7511 You did raise some good points about going to Izuka to politely suggest things, but I don't have Facebook and I don't have the courage to bug him directly on Twitter. The reason a lot of people might use RU-vid and comment sections to raise concerns despite not being a surefire way to speak to creators ties in with your 4th point about spreading the word: RU-vid is a place where videos have the chance to gain a lot of traction and be shared all over. It's also a good way of making money. Not to be impolite or anything, but your comment was a little difficult to read, so could you add some more punctuation and stuff? Thanks!

It looks nothing alike for one there are no windmills or ocean in site why dose everyone use the slightest excuse to dissmiss Izukas word even whiteout even properly reasearch 😔

Oh yes because valleys are very uncommon

@@fedeluca4015 All I'm saying is it reminds me of Sonic Unleashed because it does look similar. Sonic coming back from outer space landing at a grassy field, it's just similar. No need to be sarcastic.

@@goldenboybenny7511 I looked at the final cutscene before posting this. And it looked similar to me. I'm only joking. Not trying to diminish his words.

Johnboy1000 sorry thought you where serious so many people will do anything to diss Izuka that I feel compelled to defend him over the slightest thing.

Lmao

"Sonic is destroying the city" "Pfft that's not me" "Sonic has stolen the chaos emerald" "Thats not me!" "Whoah Sonic is flying!" "Gaaaaaaaaaarggghhh"

How we can fix the sonic canon You know for all the complaining we do online about sonic we never actually use the ways we can actually use any of the outlets that can actually change anything What I mean by that is when people complain about there no money in sonics world or how team dark are not friends and all that it is usually on RU-vid or on some online chat room like Reddit. Places where sonic team are never going to see or here are complaints or places where they can at least pretend to ignore them. They never actually go to the sonic Twitter or Takashi Izuka’s Facebook account. Now hold on a minute I do not want you to just go complaining to Takashi Izuka about how everything wrong with sonic is his fault and demanding he change this or that in the lore. That would just make him want to ignore your complaints and have them less likely to be agnolaged. If we want him to listen to our opinions on why we need to do a few things number 1 Put non of the blame on Izuka and be polite and nice I am not saying be a suck up to him that could be off putting but I think he would be more willing to listen if you are polite to him and don’t treat him as everything is his fault. I would recommend starting with the words “are you aware that someone working for saga stated” insert your problem with canon here and explain why you think it contradicts what has been established in previous sonic games. I honestly don’t approve putting all the blame on Izuka when a lot of the claims like Team Dark are not friends are not made by him and he might not even be aware of it sonic is a big franchise I doubt he knows everything that is going on in it. These claims could come from anyone at saga and If Takashi Izuka is not aware of these things or at least not aware of how much people hate it. then if he became aware of it and realize how much people don’t like it he is one of the few people at saga who has the power to change the canon. If we make it If enough people make statements on his Facebook about how they don’t like it and how they think it contradicts canon then he might be willing to change it. After all he stated sonic was only as fast as light but when a fan posted him evidence that sonic is faster then light he said good reasearch suggesting he agreed with the fan. But if you go in putting the blame on him for these things he will be less willing to listen because he might feel he is the one who is being attacked. If you ask him politely “are you aware it has been stated by someone working for saga” that money dose not exist in sonics world and then give good point out how this contradicts canon I believe he will listen as long as you are nice and don’t suggest that anything Number 2 Give good reasons for how this contradicts canon and show examples If your reasoning is just that Well I don’t like it so it is bad then I don’t know about Izuka but I would not take you seriously. So best to be safe For the no money in sonic I would provide pictures of all the shops in sonic games particularly in sonic world adventure and sonic 06 Or how all the casinos in sonic really don’t make sense without money Or how there are dolar bills seen in sonic adventure 2 rouges level Or how we see coins in sonic adventure casino And non of that stuff come from me I got it from this video. And Finnally I would point out the times money was actually mentioned in sonic the times vector mentioned money about how a cash prose was mentioned in team sonic racing. how yen was mentioned in sonic colours the Japanese version. Number 3 Post it on his facebook where everyone can see it is more likely to respond if others can see it and it gets attention Don’t do him so only he can see it I know from experience that rarely works. 4 Make sure others do the same so it get as much attention as possible so please spread the word. 5 stop reading this and just do it go out and post something on Facebook asking Izuka if he is aware this stuff is being stated by someone working for saga and explain why you think it contradicts what was established in previous sonic games. Just go and do it know So to all those interested in my suggestions go just

LSMakr is not a Sonic fan he said Mario Galaxy was better than any Sonic game

@@theminecraft2516 i cant tell if your joking or not but this is marks channel lol. and mark is a sonic fan. he made a whole channel about sonic lol

@@soniboy180 Lies, this is LS Mark's friend's channel. Mark said so himself multiple times, come on dude.

@@DarkkirbyKRPG your joking right? its kinda hard to tell

@@soniboy180 he's not joking. What is there to joke about.

Tbf the franchise is more than that.

Five Nights lore is really hard to understand, yet consistent, c'mon guys, you're being outdone by one guy that made mediocre games until he made one game with a lot of shadows.

@@undeadbatman9762 yeah

@VinceSM Almost like a cancer.

... lizuka wasn't the one responsible about the 2 world thing it was naka's and the whole sonic team

@@fedeluca4015 Prove it.

@@fedeluca4015 Naka left before the bullshit happened. Hes the reason it all felt connected up until Unleashed since he left during the development of 06

@@hwanniggles187 not really, at that time sonic team still didn't know iabout the chronological ubication of sonic cd hence why they make sonic 4 ep metal and 2. also he didn't do that much since sonic adventire 1 he only took an role on 06 where he left, sonic adventure 2 and heroes where lizuka's ideas meanwhile at the time naka was doing other things like phantasy star online

Only takes like 9 minutes for such a simple confirmation.

@@narxmagee727 exactly like jeez. I didn't even know it was a thing until I watched a video on it

Iizuka didn't want you to hear that.

@@GUNS_jk yea of course he didn't

Thats great since its a comic. It kinda has to be lol. But I wish the games did the same thing. They have SO much material to work with its crazy.

@@justcallmekai1554 If SEGA payed attention to Ian Flynn's talent of a writer earlier and hired him to plot the games, the past ones Would have had more sensible stories.

@@TheLastBabyMan Ian Flynn wanted the comics to be more like the games, basically stripping the world of Archie Sonic of its charm.

@@sonicstar917 Flynn’s comics world building had far more charm than Penders’ garbage ever did

@@charlieharrington9555 IDW is as shallow as they come. Just surface-level fanservice with all the blatant references (i.e., song lyrics substituted as dialogue, game locations thrown in with no explanation or reason, characters acting like idiots to advance the plot, etc.).

Yeah, Flynn's inherited an unholy mess of contradictitive lore and plotlines, inconsistent characterization and downright stupid writing and made it work once, he'll do it again. Seriously Sega, please pay this man to write the games, it'll improve things by leaps and bounds.

nor teeth

How we can fix the sonic canon You know for all the complaining we do online about sonic we never actually use the ways we can actually use any of the outlets that can actually change anything What I mean by that is when people complain about there no money in sonics world or how team dark are not friends and all that it is usually on RU-vid or on some online chat room like Reddit. Places where sonic team are never going to see or here are complaints or places where they can at least pretend to ignore them. They never actually go to the sonic Twitter or Takashi Izuka’s Facebook account. Now hold on a minute I do not want you to just go complaining to Takashi Izuka about how everything wrong with sonic is his fault and demanding he change this or that in the lore. That would just make him want to ignore your complaints and have them less likely to be agnolaged. If we want him to listen to our opinions on why we need to do a few things number 1 Put non of the blame on Izuka and be polite and nice I am not saying be a suck up to him that could be off putting but I think he would be more willing to listen if you are polite to him and don’t treat him as everything is his fault. I would recommend starting with the words “are you aware that someone working for saga stated” insert your problem with canon here and explain why you think it contradicts what has been established in previous sonic games. I honestly don’t approve putting all the blame on Izuka when a lot of the claims like Team Dark are not friends are not made by him and he might not even be aware of it sonic is a big franchise I doubt he knows everything that is going on in it. These claims could come from anyone at saga and If Takashi Izuka is not aware of these things or at least not aware of how much people hate it. then if he became aware of it and realize how much people don’t like it he is one of the few people at saga who has the power to change the canon. If we make it If enough people make statements on his Facebook about how they don’t like it and how they think it contradicts canon then he might be willing to change it. After all he stated sonic was only as fast as light but when a fan posted him evidence that sonic is faster then light he said good reasearch suggesting he agreed with the fan. But if you go in putting the blame on him for these things he will be less willing to listen because he might feel he is the one who is being attacked. If you ask him politely “are you aware it has been stated by someone working for saga” that money dose not exist in sonics world and then give good point out how this contradicts canon I believe he will listen as long as you are nice and don’t suggest that anything Number 2 Give good reasons for how this contradicts canon and show examples If your reasoning is just that Well I don’t like it so it is bad then I don’t know about Izuka but I would not take you seriously. So best to be safe For the no money in sonic I would provide pictures of all the shops in sonic games particularly in sonic world adventure and sonic 06 Or how all the casinos in sonic really don’t make sense without money Or how there are dolar bills seen in sonic adventure 2 rouges level Or how we see coins in sonic adventure casino And non of that stuff come from me I got it from this video. And Finnally I would point out the times money was actually mentioned in sonic the times vector mentioned money about how a cash prose was mentioned in team sonic racing. how yen was mentioned in sonic colours the Japanese version. Number 3 Post it on his facebook where everyone can see it is more likely to respond if others can see it and it gets attention Don’t do him so only he can see it I know from experience that rarely works. 4 Make sure others do the same so it get as much attention as possible so please spread the word. 5 stop reading this and just do it go out and post something on Facebook asking Izuka if he is aware this stuff is being stated by someone working for saga and explain why you think it contradicts what was established in previous sonic games. Just go and do it know So to all those interested in my suggestions go just

@@goldenboybenny7511 I don't use twitter

Elijah Pippin Then go to Izuka’s Facebook account that what I did.

Sounds much better

Nice

I liked this better than the explanation that Kingdom Hearts ruined Donald Duck lore, and now compulsive escapists have their lives ruined by Sony because they let fiction have plot holes.

This explanation has the same problem as the whole Shadow/Hidden Palace Mural connection. It's never stated or implied in the game, so it's just headcanon. I mean, even if one accepts this theory, how the hell does Tails know about it? The last time he saw Classic Sonic was in Generations, when he clearly was Sonic from the past. Then, when Tails sees the same Sonic again, his first thought is: "Oh you're that Sonic from another dimension" and not "Oh you're that Sonic from the past". How does that make sense? Did Tails just randomly have a thought about quantum mechanics the moment he saw Classic Sonic, despite having no reason to do so?

link?

@@marvelfannumber1 I mean, it's just logic that meeting your future self would influence your own future? Tails is a smart guy just like Eggman who both acknowledge the different dimensions thing. Also, is it just headcanon if it's confirmed?

Eh , it’s still very confusing to follow. SEGA definitely needs to clear up confusion instead of adding to it.

@@bobismad1362 Yes that's true but I'm just saying well probably not get it because Sonic team doesn't put in effort into making sure things are clear. Like Mark said not good management.

You dropped this king 👑

I understood this too. Especially since the guy is Japanese and when I hear him speak English, it's apparent that he's translating what he'd normally say in Japanese literally. So I assume the wording means different things than it usually would. I don't perceive "world" as "dimension" or "planet", but just as the world portrayed in that specific game. And Classic Sonic in Generations has obviously experienced things Sonic did not in his past, thus making it a NEO Classic Sonic and a new timeline. That's a whole different world right there. They are adding fuel to the fire by confusing people with their wording, but it IS technically accurate.

@@Axxidous The timeline hasn’t actually changed to be honest go and look at Sonic Loreposting on Twitter. Where they try to explain how the timeline for the games actually go. And even though he speaks English that interview wasn’t in English itself. There wasn’t a translator error in the interview it was no defined right, he said world but it has 3 different meanings it doesn’t change the word because Japan has different ways of saying the same word. With different pronunciations and tones. He maybe can speak a pretty good English but he’s not writing every script and translating his own interviews.

@Chip Wiseman You couldn't be more wrong

@Chip Wiseman No, the FNAF is intentionally confusing to keep people guessing/interested. The Sonic Lore is confusing because they retcon everything.

The simpsons lore is the most confusing lore,they got they past,but they get they present timeline for more than 20 years...

How we can fix the sonic canon You know for all the complaining we do online about sonic we never actually use the ways we can actually use any of the outlets that can actually change anything What I mean by that is when people complain about there no money in sonics world or how team dark are not friends and all that it is usually on RU-vid or on some online chat room like Reddit. Places where sonic team are never going to see or here are complaints or places where they can at least pretend to ignore them. They never actually go to the sonic Twitter or Takashi Izuka’s Facebook account. Now hold on a minute I do not want you to just go complaining to Takashi Izuka about how everything wrong with sonic is his fault and demanding he change this or that in the lore. That would just make him want to ignore your complaints and have them less likely to be agnolaged. If we want him to listen to our opinions on why we need to do a few things number 1 Put non of the blame on Izuka and be polite and nice I am not saying be a suck up to him that could be off putting but I think he would be more willing to listen if you are polite to him and don’t treat him as everything is his fault. I would recommend starting with the words “are you aware that someone working for saga stated” insert your problem with canon here and explain why you think it contradicts what has been established in previous sonic games. I honestly don’t approve putting all the blame on Izuka when a lot of the claims like Team Dark are not friends are not made by him and he might not even be aware of it sonic is a big franchise I doubt he knows everything that is going on in it. These claims could come from anyone at saga and If Takashi Izuka is not aware of these things or at least not aware of how much people hate it. then if he became aware of it and realize how much people don’t like it he is one of the few people at saga who has the power to change the canon. If we make it If enough people make statements on his Facebook about how they don’t like it and how they think it contradicts canon then he might be willing to change it. After all he stated sonic was only as fast as light but when a fan posted him evidence that sonic is faster then light he said good reasearch suggesting he agreed with the fan. But if you go in putting the blame on him for these things he will be less willing to listen because he might feel he is the one who is being attacked. If you ask him politely “are you aware it has been stated by someone working for saga” that money dose not exist in sonics world and then give good point out how this contradicts canon I believe he will listen as long as you are nice and don’t suggest that anything Number 2 Give good reasons for how this contradicts canon and show examples If your reasoning is just that Well I don’t like it so it is bad then I don’t know about Izuka but I would not take you seriously. So best to be safe For the no money in sonic I would provide pictures of all the shops in sonic games particularly in sonic world adventure and sonic 06 Or how all the casinos in sonic really don’t make sense without money Or how there are dolar bills seen in sonic adventure 2 rouges level Or how we see coins in sonic adventure casino And non of that stuff come from me I got it from this video. And Finnally I would point out the times money was actually mentioned in sonic the times vector mentioned money about how a cash prose was mentioned in team sonic racing. how yen was mentioned in sonic colours the Japanese version. Number 3 Post it on his facebook where everyone can see it is more likely to respond if others can see it and it gets attention Don’t do him so only he can see it I know from experience that rarely works. 4 Make sure others do the same so it get as much attention as possible so please spread the word. 5 stop reading this and just do it go out and post something on Facebook asking Izuka if he is aware this stuff is being stated by someone working for saga and explain why you think it contradicts what was established in previous sonic games. Just go and do it know So to all those interested in my suggestions go just

And Kingdom Hearts

How we can fix the sonic canon You know for all the complaining we do online about sonic we never actually use the ways we can actually use any of the outlets that can actually change anything What I mean by that is when people complain about there no money in sonics world or how team dark are not friends and all that it is usually on RU-vid or on some online chat room like Reddit. Places where sonic team are never going to see or here are complaints or places where they can at least pretend to ignore them. They never actually go to the sonic Twitter or Takashi Izuka’s Facebook account. Now hold on a minute I do not want you to just go complaining to Takashi Izuka about how everything wrong with sonic is his fault and demanding he change this or that in the lore. That would just make him want to ignore your complaints and have them less likely to be agnolaged. If we want him to listen to our opinions on why we need to do a few things number 1 Put non of the blame on Izuka and be polite and nice I am not saying be a suck up to him that could be off putting but I think he would be more willing to listen if you are polite to him and don’t treat him as everything is his fault. I would recommend starting with the words “are you aware that someone working for saga stated” insert your problem with canon here and explain why you think it contradicts what has been established in previous sonic games. I honestly don’t approve putting all the blame on Izuka when a lot of the claims like Team Dark are not friends are not made by him and he might not even be aware of it sonic is a big franchise I doubt he knows everything that is going on in it. These claims could come from anyone at saga and If Takashi Izuka is not aware of these things or at least not aware of how much people hate it. then if he became aware of it and realize how much people don’t like it he is one of the few people at saga who has the power to change the canon. If we make it If enough people make statements on his Facebook about how they don’t like it and how they think it contradicts canon then he might be willing to change it. After all he stated sonic was only as fast as light but when a fan posted him evidence that sonic is faster then light he said good reasearch suggesting he agreed with the fan. But if you go in putting the blame on him for these things he will be less willing to listen because he might feel he is the one who is being attacked. If you ask him politely “are you aware it has been stated by someone working for saga” that money dose not exist in sonics world and then give good point out how this contradicts canon I believe he will listen as long as you are nice and don’t suggest that anything Number 2 Give good reasons for how this contradicts canon and show examples If your reasoning is just that Well I don’t like it so it is bad then I don’t know about Izuka but I would not take you seriously. So best to be safe For the no money in sonic I would provide pictures of all the shops in sonic games particularly in sonic world adventure and sonic 06 Or how all the casinos in sonic really don’t make sense without money Or how there are dolar bills seen in sonic adventure 2 rouges level Or how we see coins in sonic adventure casino And non of that stuff come from me I got it from this video. And Finnally I would point out the times money was actually mentioned in sonic the times vector mentioned money about how a cash prose was mentioned in team sonic racing. how yen was mentioned in sonic colours the Japanese version. Number 3 Post it on his facebook where everyone can see it is more likely to respond if others can see it and it gets attention Don’t do him so only he can see it I know from experience that rarely works. 4 Make sure others do the same so it get as much attention as possible so please spread the word. 5 stop reading this and just do it go out and post something on Facebook asking Izuka if he is aware this stuff is being stated by someone working for saga and explain why you think it contradicts what was established in previous sonic games. Just go and do it know So to all those interested in my suggestions go just

I like this, it makessense, and works out. Nice! 👍,

it's good and all, but... we need orbot and cubot to stay

@@chrisprattofficial yeah Eggman plays good off those two so they stay

Did Iizuka himself say that Shadow has no friends or that Sonic's world has no money, or did you hear that from Ian Flynn?

How we can fix the sonic canon You know for all the complaining we do online about sonic we never actually use the ways we can actually use any of the outlets that can actually change anything What I mean by that is when people complain about there no money in sonics world or how team dark are not friends and all that it is usually on RU-vid or on some online chat room like Reddit. Places where sonic team are never going to see or here are complaints or places where they can at least pretend to ignore them. They never actually go to the sonic Twitter or Takashi Izuka’s Facebook account. Now hold on a minute I do not want you to just go complaining to Takashi Izuka about how everything wrong with sonic is his fault and demanding he change this or that in the lore. That would just make him want to ignore your complaints and have them less likely to be agnolaged. If we want him to listen to our opinions on why we need to do a few things number 1 Put non of the blame on Izuka and be polite and nice I am not saying be a suck up to him that could be off putting but I think he would be more willing to listen if you are polite to him and don’t treat him as everything is his fault. I would recommend starting with the words “are you aware that someone working for saga stated” insert your problem with canon here and explain why you think it contradicts what has been established in previous sonic games. I honestly don’t approve putting all the blame on Izuka when a lot of the claims like Team Dark are not friends are not made by him and he might not even be aware of it sonic is a big franchise I doubt he knows everything that is going on in it. These claims could come from anyone at saga and If Takashi Izuka is not aware of these things or at least not aware of how much people hate it. then if he became aware of it and realize how much people don’t like it he is one of the few people at saga who has the power to change the canon. If we make it If enough people make statements on his Facebook about how they don’t like it and how they think it contradicts canon then he might be willing to change it. After all he stated sonic was only as fast as light but when a fan posted him evidence that sonic is faster then light he said good reasearch suggesting he agreed with the fan. But if you go in putting the blame on him for these things he will be less willing to listen because he might feel he is the one who is being attacked. If you ask him politely “are you aware it has been stated by someone working for saga” that money dose not exist in sonics world and then give good point out how this contradicts canon I believe he will listen as long as you are nice and don’t suggest that anything Number 2 Give good reasons for how this contradicts canon and show examples If your reasoning is just that Well I don’t like it so it is bad then I don’t know about Izuka but I would not take you seriously. So best to be safe For the no money in sonic I would provide pictures of all the shops in sonic games particularly in sonic world adventure and sonic 06 Or how all the casinos in sonic really don’t make sense without money Or how there are dolar bills seen in sonic adventure 2 rouges level Or how we see coins in sonic adventure casino And non of that stuff come from me I got it from this video. And Finnally I would point out the times money was actually mentioned in sonic the times vector mentioned money about how a cash prose was mentioned in team sonic racing. how yen was mentioned in sonic colours the Japanese version. Number 3 Post it on his facebook where everyone can see it is more likely to respond if others can see it and it gets attention Don’t do him so only he can see it I know from experience that rarely works. 4 Make sure others do the same so it get as much attention as possible so please spread the word. 5 stop reading this and just do it go out and post something on Facebook asking Izuka if he is aware this stuff is being stated by someone working for saga and explain why you think it contradicts what was established in previous sonic games. Just go and do it know So to all those interested in my suggestions go just

Hmm

That adds up and it's what I've been trying to tell myself for years, but I know in my heart that modern Sonic Team (or at least Pontac and Graff) wouldn't even put that much thought into being consistent.

So Schrodinger’s Canon LOL

@@Doctor_Odin exactly

How we can fix the sonic canon You know for all the complaining we do online about sonic we never actually use the ways we can actually use any of the outlets that can actually change anything What I mean by that is when people complain about there no money in sonics world or how team dark are not friends and all that it is usually on RU-vid or on some online chat room like Reddit. Places where sonic team are never going to see or here are complaints or places where they can at least pretend to ignore them. They never actually go to the sonic Twitter or Takashi Izuka’s Facebook account. Now hold on a minute I do not want you to just go complaining to Takashi Izuka about how everything wrong with sonic is his fault and demanding he change this or that in the lore. That would just make him want to ignore your complaints and have them less likely to be agnolaged. If we want him to listen to our opinions on why we need to do a few things number 1 Put non of the blame on Izuka and be polite and nice I am not saying be a suck up to him that could be off putting but I think he would be more willing to listen if you are polite to him and don’t treat him as everything is his fault. I would recommend starting with the words “are you aware that someone working for saga stated” insert your problem with canon here and explain why you think it contradicts what has been established in previous sonic games. I honestly don’t approve putting all the blame on Izuka when a lot of the claims like Team Dark are not friends are not made by him and he might not even be aware of it sonic is a big franchise I doubt he knows everything that is going on in it. These claims could come from anyone at saga and If Takashi Izuka is not aware of these things or at least not aware of how much people hate it. then if he became aware of it and realize how much people don’t like it he is one of the few people at saga who has the power to change the canon. If we make it If enough people make statements on his Facebook about how they don’t like it and how they think it contradicts canon then he might be willing to change it. After all he stated sonic was only as fast as light but when a fan posted him evidence that sonic is faster then light he said good reasearch suggesting he agreed with the fan. But if you go in putting the blame on him for these things he will be less willing to listen because he might feel he is the one who is being attacked. If you ask him politely “are you aware it has been stated by someone working for saga” that money dose not exist in sonics world and then give good point out how this contradicts canon I believe he will listen as long as you are nice and don’t suggest that anything Number 2 Give good reasons for how this contradicts canon and show examples If your reasoning is just that Well I don’t like it so it is bad then I don’t know about Izuka but I would not take you seriously. So best to be safe For the no money in sonic I would provide pictures of all the shops in sonic games particularly in sonic world adventure and sonic 06 Or how all the casinos in sonic really don’t make sense without money Or how there are dolar bills seen in sonic adventure 2 rouges level Or how we see coins in sonic adventure casino And non of that stuff come from me I got it from this video. And Finnally I would point out the times money was actually mentioned in sonic the times vector mentioned money about how a cash prose was mentioned in team sonic racing. how yen was mentioned in sonic colours the Japanese version. Number 3 Post it on his facebook where everyone can see it is more likely to respond if others can see it and it gets attention Don’t do him so only he can see it I know from experience that rarely works. 4 Make sure others do the same so it get as much attention as possible so please spread the word. 5 stop reading this and just do it go out and post something on Facebook asking Izuka if he is aware this stuff is being stated by someone working for saga and explain why you think it contradicts what was established in previous sonic games. Just go and do it know So to all those interested in my suggestions go just

Yup Sonic ages backwards (which considering how screwed up the continuity is) makes sense lol!

I guess its noteworthy that Sonic Jam's Japanese version list sonic as 15-16 rather than just 16 for some odd reasons.

How we can fix the sonic canon You know for all the complaining we do online about sonic we never actually use the ways we can actually use any of the outlets that can actually change anything What I mean by that is when people complain about there no money in sonics world or how team dark are not friends and all that it is usually on RU-vid or on some online chat room like Reddit. Places where sonic team are never going to see or here are complaints or places where they can at least pretend to ignore them. They never actually go to the sonic Twitter or Takashi Izuka’s Facebook account. Now hold on a minute I do not want you to just go complaining to Takashi Izuka about how everything wrong with sonic is his fault and demanding he change this or that in the lore. That would just make him want to ignore your complaints and have them less likely to be agnolaged. If we want him to listen to our opinions on why we need to do a few things number 1 Put non of the blame on Izuka and be polite and nice I am not saying be a suck up to him that could be off putting but I think he would be more willing to listen if you are polite to him and don’t treat him as everything is his fault. I would recommend starting with the words “are you aware that someone working for saga stated” insert your problem with canon here and explain why you think it contradicts what has been established in previous sonic games. I honestly don’t approve putting all the blame on Izuka when a lot of the claims like Team Dark are not friends are not made by him and he might not even be aware of it sonic is a big franchise I doubt he knows everything that is going on in it. These claims could come from anyone at saga and If Takashi Izuka is not aware of these things or at least not aware of how much people hate it. then if he became aware of it and realize how much people don’t like it he is one of the few people at saga who has the power to change the canon. If we make it If enough people make statements on his Facebook about how they don’t like it and how they think it contradicts canon then he might be willing to change it. After all he stated sonic was only as fast as light but when a fan posted him evidence that sonic is faster then light he said good reasearch suggesting he agreed with the fan. But if you go in putting the blame on him for these things he will be less willing to listen because he might feel he is the one who is being attacked. If you ask him politely “are you aware it has been stated by someone working for saga” that money dose not exist in sonics world and then give good point out how this contradicts canon I believe he will listen as long as you are nice and don’t suggest that anything Number 2 Give good reasons for how this contradicts canon and show examples If your reasoning is just that Well I don’t like it so it is bad then I don’t know about Izuka but I would not take you seriously. So best to be safe For the no money in sonic I would provide pictures of all the shops in sonic games particularly in sonic world adventure and sonic 06 Or how all the casinos in sonic really don’t make sense without money Or how there are dolar bills seen in sonic adventure 2 rouges level Or how we see coins in sonic adventure casino And non of that stuff come from me I got it from this video. And Finnally I would point out the times money was actually mentioned in sonic the times vector mentioned money about how a cash prose was mentioned in team sonic racing. how yen was mentioned in sonic colours the Japanese version. Number 3 Post it on his facebook where everyone can see it is more likely to respond if others can see it and it gets attention Don’t do him so only he can see it I know from experience that rarely works. 4 Make sure others do the same so it get as much attention as possible so please spread the word. 5 stop reading this and just do it go out and post something on Facebook asking Izuka if he is aware this stuff is being stated by someone working for saga and explain why you think it contradicts what was established in previous sonic games. Just go and do it know So to all those interested in my suggestions go just

Retcon, and the japanese version of jam saying he is around 15 to 16

No it's sonic zombies if you remember it

He’s been in space before, but a whole GAME revolving around it.. GENIUS

@@ghettokage6104 I just remembered Sonic Colors exists.....

@@theminecraft2516 shit

How we can fix the sonic canon You know for all the complaining we do online about sonic we never actually use the ways we can actually use any of the outlets that can actually change anything What I mean by that is when people complain about there no money in sonics world or how team dark are not friends and all that it is usually on RU-vid or on some online chat room like Reddit. Places where sonic team are never going to see or here are complaints or places where they can at least pretend to ignore them. They never actually go to the sonic Twitter or Takashi Izuka’s Facebook account. Now hold on a minute I do not want you to just go complaining to Takashi Izuka about how everything wrong with sonic is his fault and demanding he change this or that in the lore. That would just make him want to ignore your complaints and have them less likely to be agnolaged. If we want him to listen to our opinions on why we need to do a few things number 1 Put non of the blame on Izuka and be polite and nice I am not saying be a suck up to him that could be off putting but I think he would be more willing to listen if you are polite to him and don’t treat him as everything is his fault. I would recommend starting with the words “are you aware that someone working for saga stated” insert your problem with canon here and explain why you think it contradicts what has been established in previous sonic games. I honestly don’t approve putting all the blame on Izuka when a lot of the claims like Team Dark are not friends are not made by him and he might not even be aware of it sonic is a big franchise I doubt he knows everything that is going on in it. These claims could come from anyone at saga and If Takashi Izuka is not aware of these things or at least not aware of how much people hate it. then if he became aware of it and realize how much people don’t like it he is one of the few people at saga who has the power to change the canon. If we make it If enough people make statements on his Facebook about how they don’t like it and how they think it contradicts canon then he might be willing to change it. After all he stated sonic was only as fast as light but when a fan posted him evidence that sonic is faster then light he said good reasearch suggesting he agreed with the fan. But if you go in putting the blame on him for these things he will be less willing to listen because he might feel he is the one who is being attacked. If you ask him politely “are you aware it has been stated by someone working for saga” that money dose not exist in sonics world and then give good point out how this contradicts canon I believe he will listen as long as you are nice and don’t suggest that anything Number 2 Give good reasons for how this contradicts canon and show examples If your reasoning is just that Well I don’t like it so it is bad then I don’t know about Izuka but I would not take you seriously. So best to be safe For the no money in sonic I would provide pictures of all the shops in sonic games particularly in sonic world adventure and sonic 06 Or how all the casinos in sonic really don’t make sense without money Or how there are dolar bills seen in sonic adventure 2 rouges level Or how we see coins in sonic adventure casino And non of that stuff come from me I got it from this video. And Finnally I would point out the times money was actually mentioned in sonic the times vector mentioned money about how a cash prose was mentioned in team sonic racing. how yen was mentioned in sonic colours the Japanese version. Number 3 Post it on his facebook where everyone can see it is more likely to respond if others can see it and it gets attention Don’t do him so only he can see it I know from experience that rarely works. 4 Make sure others do the same so it get as much attention as possible so please spread the word. 5 stop reading this and just do it go out and post something on Facebook asking Izuka if he is aware this stuff is being stated by someone working for saga and explain why you think it contradicts what was established in previous sonic games. Just go and do it know So to all those interested in my suggestions go just

Yeah, and that makes sense from GUN's side since the Commander stopped hating Shadow. Since they share a childhood experience and home, they're practically family. It makes sense for them to gravitate to each other. Nobody else truly can connect with either of them on their pasts' except for each other.

It's "I've come to make an announcement".

Ditto

How we can fix the sonic canon You know for all the complaining we do online about sonic we never actually use the ways we can actually use any of the outlets that can actually change anything What I mean by that is when people complain about there no money in sonics world or how team dark are not friends and all that it is usually on RU-vid or on some online chat room like Reddit. Places where sonic team are never going to see or here are complaints or places where they can at least pretend to ignore them. They never actually go to the sonic Twitter or Takashi Izuka’s Facebook account. Now hold on a minute I do not want you to just go complaining to Takashi Izuka about how everything wrong with sonic is his fault and demanding he change this or that in the lore. That would just make him want to ignore your complaints and have them less likely to be agnolaged. If we want him to listen to our opinions on why we need to do a few things number 1 Put non of the blame on Izuka and be polite and nice I am not saying be a suck up to him that could be off putting but I think he would be more willing to listen if you are polite to him and don’t treat him as everything is his fault. I would recommend starting with the words “are you aware that someone working for saga stated” insert your problem with canon here and explain why you think it contradicts what has been established in previous sonic games. I honestly don’t approve putting all the blame on Izuka when a lot of the claims like Team Dark are not friends are not made by him and he might not even be aware of it sonic is a big franchise I doubt he knows everything that is going on in it. These claims could come from anyone at saga and If Takashi Izuka is not aware of these things or at least not aware of how much people hate it. then if he became aware of it and realize how much people don’t like it he is one of the few people at saga who has the power to change the canon. If we make it If enough people make statements on his Facebook about how they don’t like it and how they think it contradicts canon then he might be willing to change it. After all he stated sonic was only as fast as light but when a fan posted him evidence that sonic is faster then light he said good reasearch suggesting he agreed with the fan. But if you go in putting the blame on him for these things he will be less willing to listen because he might feel he is the one who is being attacked. If you ask him politely “are you aware it has been stated by someone working for saga” that money dose not exist in sonics world and then give good point out how this contradicts canon I believe he will listen as long as you are nice and don’t suggest that anything Number 2 Give good reasons for how this contradicts canon and show examples If your reasoning is just that Well I don’t like it so it is bad then I don’t know about Izuka but I would not take you seriously. So best to be safe For the no money in sonic I would provide pictures of all the shops in sonic games particularly in sonic world adventure and sonic 06 Or how all the casinos in sonic really don’t make sense without money Or how there are dolar bills seen in sonic adventure 2 rouges level Or how we see coins in sonic adventure casino And non of that stuff come from me I got it from this video. And Finnally I would point out the times money was actually mentioned in sonic the times vector mentioned money about how a cash prose was mentioned in team sonic racing. how yen was mentioned in sonic colours the Japanese version. Number 3 Post it on his facebook where everyone can see it is more likely to respond if others can see it and it gets attention Don’t do him so only he can see it I know from experience that rarely works. 4 Make sure others do the same so it get as much attention as possible so please spread the word. 5 stop reading this and just do it go out and post something on Facebook asking Izuka if he is aware this stuff is being stated by someone working for saga and explain why you think it contradicts what was established in previous sonic games. Just go and do it know So to all those interested in my suggestions go just

@Oluwalayomi Ajibola Well... that could be the reason. But when you start contradicting everything then it is not going into a new direction anymore, it's flat out rebooting.

@@matheusalcantara6912 yeah the 2010s are bad