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The cost of your favorite coffee doubled, with 7% tax you now pay $12.50, what’s the original price? 

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@stevenflogerzi1955
@stevenflogerzi1955 4 месяца назад
I just work the problem backwards ... 12.5 / 1.07 then divide by 2 = 5.841121 or (5.84)
@Zettu701
@Zettu701 4 месяца назад
same i did something like 2a*1.07=12.50 so i got (2a*1.07)/2.14= 12.50/2.14 to get 12.4976 rounded up to nearest cent 12.50
@ibono99
@ibono99 3 месяца назад
I did exactly that. I think it made more logical sense
@wallywiegert677
@wallywiegert677 3 месяца назад
OK, I got the answer you were looking for w/o difficulty, but your problem statement is subject to more than one interpretation . You don't say if the the 'original price' included taxes. I agree with others who pointed this out. It reminds me of a univiersity physics final exam I took 59 years ago where the hot shot young professor had us determine the maximum vehicle bank speed around a curve. I couldn't solve the problem b/c I needed the width measurement between the right and left wheels of the vehicle, and labeled that an unknown. Try as I could, i couldn't derive this measurement, and was thus stumped. I got zero for the answer and the professor told us that the problem gave that measurement as the "wheelbase" of the vehicle. I told him and showed him that I had correctly analyzed and solved the problem but thought that "wheelbase" referred to the distance between front and rear axles. He disagreed, and refused to even give me partial credit. He was a self declared sports car buff so I figured he must know better than me what "wheelbase' meant. He should have given me at least some credit, but no deal. I was too young to realize i should have gone over his head. Several years late i discovered that my understanding of wheelbase, not his,was correct. I'm still PO'd about it. Moral of story: yes students read the question three times, but teachers, also read your problems three times to be sure you are absoultely clear in stating a problem. Clearly understanding the problem is the very first step in solving any problem.
@genelowry5666
@genelowry5666 4 месяца назад
I make the original price to be $5.84
@ikemartin6500
@ikemartin6500 4 месяца назад
I have that also.
@adrianm.2043
@adrianm.2043 4 месяца назад
A simple enough calculation that I would have had no trouble doing, but I had to watch the video because the question did not make it clear if the sales tax or VAT as we would call it in my country should be included in the final solution. In the UK VAT is included in the price of all goods sold retail excepting food and a very few other items considered essentials, like children's clothes, personal protective equipment like hard hats, overalls and safety shoes. food has VAT if there is a service included (I.e. if you bought it from a café or a vending machine that would be a service as apposed to buying the ingredients and making it yourself.) So here we would expect if the new price was double the original price you would half the new price to answer the question and treat the tax as a red herring. Don't you do that in America? or is it the net of tax price what you would see on the price list? I guessed that was what you intended, however were I a student taking an exam, i might spend more time worrying about what the question meant.
@dantronics1682
@dantronics1682 3 месяца назад
the question was very straight forward, you double it then add 7%. vat is 20% not 7% so its would be a us state tax. which is added to the final to make the 12.50. you already stated that all retail price is adjusted
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 3 месяца назад
​@@dantronics1682 The 7% would have been added before the price rise too (unless the tax rate has changed, which the question neither states nor implies). If you now pay $12.50, you previously paid $6.25. The question relies on "price" and "amount you pay" not being the same thing.
@dantronics1682
@dantronics1682 3 месяца назад
@@gavindeane3670 so I would take it that the price is pre tax and what you pay is tax addede
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 3 месяца назад
@@dantronics1682 That's plainly what he means. But in this short question he uses "cost" in one place, "price" in another place, and refers to an amount of money you pay in another place. That's three different ways of referring to an amount of money, and it's left to the reader to guess whether they all mean the same thing or not. That's very shoddy, careless construction of the question.
@Kleermaker1000
@Kleermaker1000 Месяц назад
2X + 7/100 x 2X = 1250 (cents and new price). Result: 2,14X = 1250 => X = 1250/2,14 = (using my calculator) 584 ct. or $ 5,84 (original price).
@harikrishna69
@harikrishna69 3 месяца назад
Once again, an ambiguous question and a turgid rambling answer.
@robertloveless4938
@robertloveless4938 3 месяца назад
If you're smart enough to solve this problem, you're also smart enough to not buy a cup of coffee so expensive. Ergo, the problem is hypothetical. So tge next hypothetical question is: Who is dumb enough to pay over 6 bucks for 1 cup of coffee?
@MrSeezero
@MrSeezero 4 месяца назад
In determining where to round up your answer or certain figures before you get your answer (In this case, the decision is between 5.84 and 5.85.), that depends on what the governing body that collects that sales tax does when it has to round up something to get the final price. So, if going past halfway means rounding up, then the answer has to be 5.84 since 12.497 rounds up to 12.50 and since 5.85 would result in 12.52 being the new price plus 7%. If you always had to round down then the answer would have been no solution since 5.84 would have led to 12.49 while 5.85 would have led to 12.51.
@argonwheatbelly637
@argonwheatbelly637 3 месяца назад
Breakage. They literally used this as the premise of a Superman movie.
@TheOlderandwiser
@TheOlderandwiser 3 месяца назад
surely sales tax appplied to the original price....
@argonwheatbelly637
@argonwheatbelly637 3 месяца назад
1.07 × 2 × price = $12.5 Solve. Easy problem.
@alicelowe4433
@alicelowe4433 3 месяца назад
I understand your algebra but it was the wording that threw me off course
@williamniver6063
@williamniver6063 3 месяца назад
I think every answer given so far is incorrect. In fact, John the Internet Math Man gets it wrong, too. Look at the damned question: "Can You Solve?" The correct answer is YES. Any attempt to determine the math - the original price was $5.84 - is misguided.
@dantronics1682
@dantronics1682 3 месяца назад
But dont you have to prove that you can solve it? if not then just pay the price for the coffee
@russelllomando8460
@russelllomando8460 4 месяца назад
got it 5.84 logic immediately brought me to 5.90 then 5.85 however, your formuala was great. it was faster for me to 'brute force' it than to try to create your formula. thanks for the fun
@garthmcgibbon4285
@garthmcgibbon4285 3 месяца назад
How much was the original tax. Surely they taxed it something originally.
@dantronics1682
@dantronics1682 3 месяца назад
Doesnt the tax stays as 7%?
@brianwalker7323
@brianwalker7323 4 месяца назад
Assuming the tax is unchanged, you were paying 6.25. If that was for an 8 oz cup, you were paying $100.00 per gallon for coffee. Stop complaining about the price of gas.
@Ayelmar
@Ayelmar 4 месяца назад
Solved at the thumbnail, I'm getting an original price of $5.84. The new price including 7% tax is $12.50, or 1.07 * pre-tax price. $12.50 / 1.07 = $11.68 = new pre-tax price. Since the new price is double the original price, $11.68 / 2 = $5.84 = original pre-tax price. (Adding in 7% tax makes the original taxed price $6.25, half the new taxed price, but I don't think that's the answer to the question asked.)
@ibono99
@ibono99 3 месяца назад
Exact the same method I used. It just made more sense to me this method.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 4 месяца назад
Yet again, we have extraordinarily sloppy construction of a mathematics word problem. You really should be able to do better than this. I calculated the answer you want in seconds, but it's not the answer to the question you actually asked. The punctuation in the question is terrible. I presume that is meant to be a full stop (period, for you Americans) after "doubled", because a comma makes no sense. With that out of the way, the question doesn't say anything to suggest that the tax rate has changed, so the obvious answer is that the original price was half of $12.50, i.e. $6.25. However, from watching the video, it's plain that you had in mind that the tax rate was 0% not 7% before the price rise. Or alternatively, you aren't imagining a change in the tax rate, but when you say "original price" you don't mean "original price", you mean the portion of the original price that isn't tax. It is beyond belief that you expect your students to read your mind like that. Put. ALL. The. Information. In. The. Question!!! If you don't put all the information in the question, then you have no choice but to accept multiple different answers as correct.
@denisewenke8323
@denisewenke8323 4 месяца назад
I can see how the wording would be confusing if you are accustomed to the tax being included in the price.
@dantronics1682
@dantronics1682 3 месяца назад
you are paying double for the coffee, not buying 2 lots so you would only pay 1 taxed amount
@davedeatherage4902
@davedeatherage4902 4 месяца назад
Hi John, You're a great Mathematics Teacher, and a good man. My wife and I are learning, practicing, and relearning math through you. Thank you Sir.
@josephlori4625
@josephlori4625 4 месяца назад
My favorite coffee is . 99 ¢ at McDonald's, and that's good enough for me.
@dantronics1682
@dantronics1682 3 месяца назад
this must be *buck coffee
@tomtke7351
@tomtke7351 4 месяца назад
These questions' difficulty is converting the WORDS to an EQUATION. Thus the term "word problems." Step 1: Assign a symbol for each parameter O : original coffee price C : checkout price = $12.50 T : tax = 7% Step 2: write equation(s) C = (1+T)(2×O) $12.50 = (1+7%)(2×O) $12.50 = (1.07)(2×O) ($12.50)/(1.07)(2) = O $12.50/2.14 = O $5.84 = O ans.1 Verify 2 × $5.84 = $11.68 $11.68 × 0.07 = $0.82 $11.68 + $0.82 =? $12.50 $12.50=❤$12.50
@thomasharding1838
@thomasharding1838 18 дней назад
(12.50/1.07)/2 = 5.84 (previous cost of coffee before added tax). 5.84/1.07 = 6.25 dollars assuming the tax was in existence when the price was lower. Cost of coffee now before tax $11.68 Tax on coffee now $00.82 => coffee + tax $12.50 Previous Coffee cost no tax $05.84 Previous tax on coffee $00.41 => coffee + tax was $6.25
@clubbymoore-ik7oe
@clubbymoore-ik7oe 3 месяца назад
The answer depends on if tax is added before or after the doubling.
@thomasharding1838
@thomasharding1838 18 дней назад
It doesn't really matter. The tax is going to increase by the same factor as the product cost. $12.50 is twice what they would have paid out before and the menu price of the coffee would also have increased be a factor of 2 which means the tax amount would also increase by 2.
@kennethwright870
@kennethwright870 3 месяца назад
($12.5/1.07)/2=$5.84
@williambird884
@williambird884 4 месяца назад
I'm now paying $12.50 with the tax included. Before I was paying $12.50 / 2 without the tax. I'm now PAYING twice as much so I was paying $12.50 / 2 = $6.25. The PRICE of the coffee didn't double. The COST for me to buy the coffee doubled with the 7% tax.
@volleyballDave
@volleyballDave 3 месяца назад
to include sales tax you would multiply the amount by 1.07. So to remove the sales tax you simply divide the amount by 1.07. Then you're left with the new higher cost of the coffee, the coffee doubled. So you then divide this amount by 2. ( 12.5 / 1.07 ) / 2 = 5.84 (approx)
@panlomito
@panlomito 4 месяца назад
12.50 / 2 / 1.07 = $ 5.84 with calculator. Could I do without if I really tried?
@Frie_Jemi
@Frie_Jemi 4 месяца назад
I got $5.85, I guess I rounded the wrong place.😊
@donfacundo2118
@donfacundo2118 3 месяца назад
Mathematics goes also with the same ethos: Practice makes perfect
@aryusure1943
@aryusure1943 3 месяца назад
You need to work on your sound. Your teaching is fine though.
@Andy-oo8dh
@Andy-oo8dh 3 месяца назад
surely the answer is $6.25 with 7% tax.
@CynthiaShaw-km3hq
@CynthiaShaw-km3hq 3 месяца назад
Isn't it quicker to divide 12.50 by 1.07 then divide that answer by 2?
@dantronics1682
@dantronics1682 3 месяца назад
Yes but you're not suppose to think about it logically
@b213videoz
@b213videoz 4 месяца назад
I can't solve this nonsensical problem, I am NOT that idiot who'd be paying 12.50 USD for "a coffee" 🤪
@dantronics1682
@dantronics1682 3 месяца назад
But if you had shares in the coffee chain drivetru which is selling to those idiots
@justincando1
@justincando1 Месяц назад
Hmm I did it all in my head and got 5.68...
@يوسفحسينعبدالله-ز4ج
@يوسفحسينعبدالله-ز4ج 3 месяца назад
Original price = $5.84
@oldgrumpyhunter
@oldgrumpyhunter 4 месяца назад
As stated before just divide the 12.50 by 1.07 and then divide that answer by 2 and get 5.84 rounded
@sirtango1
@sirtango1 4 месяца назад
I don’t drink coffee
@ZenWithKen
@ZenWithKen 4 месяца назад
I did 12.5/1.07 to get the new price, then divided that by two to get the old price of $5.84.
@crystalr7602
@crystalr7602 4 месяца назад
agreed with my fellow solvers, $5.84 original price with tax
@garybernier7293
@garybernier7293 4 месяца назад
I say the original price is 15 cents but they just say the 12.50 price is inflation.
@darellpiper7227
@darellpiper7227 4 месяца назад
Time to start drinking a cheaper brand of coffee.
@dantronics1682
@dantronics1682 3 месяца назад
Cheap brand? a large jar of nescafe is still less than $12.50
@memovilmx6239
@memovilmx6239 4 месяца назад
(12.50/1.07) /2
@philh8829
@philh8829 4 месяца назад
P = Orig Price S= Subtotal T= TAX, F = Final Price F = S + T S = 2 x P T = S x 7/100 T = 2 x P x 7/100 T = 14P/100 F = 2P + 14P/100 100F = 200P + 14P 100F = 214P 100/214F = P F= 12.50 P = 1250/214 HCF 2 P = 625/107 p = ~ $5.84
@robertloveless4938
@robertloveless4938 3 месяца назад
Are you making fun of the often ridiculously long solutions given? IF SO, you succeeded.
@chrisdissanayake6979
@chrisdissanayake6979 4 месяца назад
$5.82
@josephlaura7387
@josephlaura7387 4 месяца назад
$5.84
@claytonpoche8306
@claytonpoche8306 3 месяца назад
5.81
@rajeshvyas934
@rajeshvyas934 3 месяца назад
5.84
@acool6401
@acool6401 3 месяца назад
Let X = Current price of coffee before tax. Let Y = Original price of coffee before tax and doubling. Therefore…. X = $12.50 / 1.07 = $11.6822429906542 Y = X / 2 = $5.8411214953271
@raya.pawley3563
@raya.pawley3563 4 месяца назад
Thank you
@mylittlepitbull3143
@mylittlepitbull3143 4 месяца назад
I'm sure the tax went from 5% to 7% also so you have to factor that in.
@dantronics1682
@dantronics1682 3 месяца назад
where did 5% come from? 7% could be state and not federal tax
@mylittlepitbull3143
@mylittlepitbull3143 3 месяца назад
@@dantronics1682 your mama
@CawasKapadia
@CawasKapadia 4 месяца назад
The problem is properly worded. Nothing wrong with it.
@gavindeane3670
@gavindeane3670 4 месяца назад
The problem is not even properly punctuated, let alone properly worded.
@dantronics1682
@dantronics1682 3 месяца назад
@@gavindeane3670 At least he didnt say "yall pay double for a bunch of coffee with these littles guys added to it"
@jimbloomfield1026
@jimbloomfield1026 4 месяца назад
get rid of joe biden and the dems,problem solved.
@terry_willis
@terry_willis 4 месяца назад
Harris, 2024
@b213videoz
@b213videoz 4 месяца назад
Even though it's nonsensical I'll solve it anyway: 12.50 = (op + 0.07 * op)*2 6.25 = op(1 + 0.07) op = 6.25 / 1.07 op = 5.8411214953 USD
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