Mostly I'm not a fan of "woke movies" who give the impression of wanting to lecture the audience rather than provide entertainment or an engaging experience. And when the critical drinker reviews those types of movies, I mostly enjoy it. But for him to take that format and aply it to midsommar I can't understand why he would do. It's not a movie with an agenda of that "lecturing" sort at all. Of course anyone can have their own opinion but to me he critizise the movie for being something it simply isn't.
I remember seeing a video talking about all the movies and shows from the 80's and 90's that were beloved at the time but people would refer to as "woke" now if made to day. From what I've seen from how popular so many things have become, people actually love woke media. What people don't like is poorly written stories with 2 dimensional characters that's morals are given in a preachy manner that treats the person watching as though they're not smart and mistake that as being the same thing. Shows like Arcane and Squidgames being a huge success shows that people love woke when it's well written.
I wanted this film to have an Apocalypto-like ending, but instead of having Conquistadors arriving to deal with the pagan natives, we see Danni and her retarded neopagans dancing and then we hear it: *Allahu Akbar!* and the sound of automatic rifles as Muslims arrive to deal with the neopagan Danni. Of course, Shitlibs would be too cucked and scared to make that movie.
Raised a couple valid points but lost me @3:30. Writing some bullshit paper is a "genuine" reason to hang around after witnessing a ceremonial suicide/someone's head getting smashed in by a hammer? I think you're clutching at straws here.
Leaving was never an option. They were dead the second they arrived. Some did leave; they were killed. They were all being manipulated and given psychedelics from the start.
Because they were clout chasing a sensationalistic cult, like 99% of lost college post-grads who feel like they're the shit and invincible would do. At no point until the end was it readily apparent that anyone but the elders that choose to die at 72 were in any danger whatsoever. You have shallow opinions and no ability to untangle a very, extremely simple puzzle.
I mean the characters who left were killed, they would have just done that to everyone but dani and tried to paint it like they left her, which shed believe because the night after the ritual she has a nightmare of them doing this, They wanted to witness something shocking and edgy, theyre the kind of people whod watch fucked up gore shit online. Also as messed up as it was they had no reason to think the cult was malicious, this was a practice theyd been doing for a really long time and people there really wanted to go out this way. It doesnt really explain how theyd be hostile towards the group but just have messed up rituals. Dani is the only one who also does try and leave also and is manipulated into staying by pel. Also the movie explains it as how oppurtunistic and selfish the male group is, dani's boyfriend finds it so shocking and mesmerising he decides to basically copy his best friends idea of doing his final college thesis here, potentially ruining their friendship. Instead of boring, everyone realises the cult is bad moment, they mix it with showing 3 people who fail to leave and 3 other people who selfishly ignore the warning sign. I dont think it's that dumb.. them deciding to stay was pretty dumb from the guys but it choses to show their toxic characters that finds ways to jusyify their dumb mistakes, and how vulnerable dani and the characters who do try and leave are killed really quick so i dont think it makes the movie dumb imo
Just because characters were killed is not a reason for characters who did not know they were in that kind of danger to stick around. I will tell you the truth behind it all, the true reason that they stuck around. It is quite fascinating and truly a look into inquisitive writing. They stuck around because.. the movie would not happen.
I like the critical drinker for the most part but his take on Midsommar hysterically missed every point. Thanks for setting the record straight. I think Midsommar and Hereditary stand out as 2 of the very best horror films of the century so far, in part because they trust the audience to seek the surreal experience without aggressive exposition. Dani’s character does have a full character arc, just not the one that decent people would hope for her to have. When she smiles at the burning sacrificial temple at the end, you just know that she will forever stay trapped in the heart of darkness and that’s all it takes to capstone the story that Ari Aster was telling.
there is literally no point in this amateur POS that is earned...but you are a mentally deficient thing who actually believes such amateur garbage can ever be art, and that is exactly how Drinker is able to shit all over you
No he is correct... This awful eternally slow paced and boring movie just stole 2 and a half hours of my life that I will never get back. What a pile of pure garbage and totally and utterly pathetically predictable. Not one part of it was scary. Hollywood is stupid as hell...
The ending when she smiles reminds me of the ending of 1984 when he loves Big Brother. The fact that you identify with Dani and almost rejoice with her is horrifying in itself because you realize that you’ve been brainwashed along with the protagonist. I agree that his analysis was incredibly shallow. I don’t know if others agree with me, but I also found some humor in the film and enjoyed some of the old horror tropes being revived.
@@WhatisReal11I'm usually very not scared of horror movies but I do watch them because I like the genre but this movie had me thinking about it a lot I even dreamt of all those white dressed villagers.. This is not your average horror movie it's imo a horror movie with very realistic things happening in it. It's not monsters what you see it's humans doing creepy stuff.. And of course the way they used the visitors as pawns and dispposed of them went down in a brutal manner.. I like the movie and imo it's not for people who want stupid jump scares it's way more mature
I watched the movie yesterday and heres my take on it: It was mediocre at best, the characters are stupid(mind numbingly stupid), how do we know this? Because they can't detect suspicious shit that happens almost every scene...the movie is beyond predictable, its not unique because there are countless films with the same plotline. other than that ive read one review that's calling it a ripoff of the wicker man, so I guess besides being an awful film it's also a ripoff of a better movie I haven't seen. Great. You are free to have your own opinion but I think you're wrong on this one, and I also did not like hereditary, seems to me the guy makin these just wants an excuse to have naked women having sex? That's how it feels at least
Ever taken psychedelics? Multiple times, from people who planned to keep you from the start? I cant be wrong about opinion, as it’s opinion. Drinker is objectively wrong about what he describes in the film like the retard wearing the face and killing.
@@turkideligtYeah he kinda does. He thinks it's some sort of strong girl boss tale when in reality it's a story about a cult manipulating a grief-striken emotionally weak woman into cutting away all the people around her and joining their weird cult. That's not just some detail, it's the entire theme of the film. And if that wasn't enough he also missed literal plot beats (like how they're constantly pressured into taking drugs and are clearly not thinking rationally). Also you claim that there are many movies like it, but I don't think that I've seen anything about an elongated breakup that's masked under the text of a cult indoctrination. Subtext is quite important. There's a lot of thematic significance going on and dumbing it down to "guys get killed by cult" is pretty silly.
@@michaelbozas @WhatIsRealVideos I agree the critical drinker is a political overcharged zealot that only talks about wokeness, even when there is none
Midsommar is not a good movie, and it doesn’t achieve anything that it thinks it does. Critical Drinker’s points stand. You also don’t understand his sense of irony at times. All in all, a very weak attempt at a critique of a critique.
@@WhatisReal11 You certainly don’t disprove his points. You understand neither his critique nor the movie’s pretensions. You seem to find Critical Drinker annoying (a perfectly legitimate opinion), you also seem to dislike his use of the ‘R’ word (something that I am not too keen on myself). However, Midsommar is a clear case of something that we used to call ‘performative allegory’. But might be more clearly understood by someone such as yourself as ‘style over substance’.
@@WhatisReal11 Nonsense. You can judge an opinion to be correct or right or true. That's what you do when you agree or disagree with someone. For, instance, in your title you claim CD's review is 'wrong', meaning presumably that you judge CD's opinion of Midsommer to be wrong, that you disagree with it. Wrong is the opposite of right. Subjectivity and objectivity don't come into it.
This movie was awful and in no way, shape or form a horror movie. Some issues here: Dani's "growth" was excruciatingly predictable. Like the entire film. Nothing in this movie was "disturbing" because it was so predictable. Twists and conclusions are what make films interesting. Even No Country for Old Men (far more of a horror than this film and had a singular, overriding theme the Cohens repeatedly beat into your head) also had twists and a conclusion.
The movie is in no way supposed to be your typical Hollywood jump scare crazy unpredictable twists movie, it's purposefully slow paced and made to create a certain atmosphere of discomfort. Just because you personally don't like the particular style doesn't mean the film isn't well made.
She didn’t “grow” … her vulnerabilities were exploited by a murderous cult and her mind was broken. Not a happy or liberating ending, no matter how many people misinterpreted it. That’s not what the movie is about.
@@felonious83 Which is kinda why I wrote "growth". If a movie is going to be overwhelmingly predictable, then it should have some redeeming quality - like character arcs...growth, any number of things. If the trip is a straight line from A-B, everything else had better be pretty good, or at least entertaining. Or maybe not excruciatingly painful.
I just watched this film and honestly it was such a disappointment, I had high expectations. I think after the cliff ritual it all started to go downhill in terms of sensibility. Like it's just too convenient to blame psychedelics for every single out of pocket decision every character has made, and the overwhelming lack of suspicion when people, your friends start disappearing. I didn't buy it. Especially after the cliff ritual, literally only Connie and Simon had a normal reaction to this shit, also the motives of Pelle didn't co-opted with his actions (like- made much more sense to attempt to manipulate them more than to immediately shock them, it would've probably affected us as viewers more but that's just my take on it) I think there was incredible potential, but in the end the character development of Dani was predictable yet still didn't make sense, there was too much leaning into shock factor graphic scenes without proper implications, that didn't appropriately push the plot in a way that made sense for what they were, psychologically there was so much potential with the pagan cult theme that was instead written really lazily imo, and the ending abt Pelle was super obvious, also abt Dani if I'm being honest. I was just really underwhelmed. Felt too graphic just for the sake of it, with the excuse of 'mysterious' rituals that only a few of them actually made sense and most were just sinister and excessively violent for no apparent reason, and the excuse of 'drugs' to move the plot forward without questions (like Josh going at night to take pics of the book is so off brand for his character, he respected them a lot, also Josh and Mark disappeared and somehow Dani and Chris bought that they somehow ran away with the book without telling them... Like huh?) So yeah just felt like a lot of wasted potential. But the Critical Drinker sucks lol. Stupid shallow critic. Ur vid was great.
You didn’t pay attention at all. It wasn’t lazily written; there was purpose weaved throughout the plot, including symbolism that hinted towards what was to come. You also can’t watch films like these inputing your own logic into how characters make decisions. The entire film was about how Dani was dealing with grief as well as being surrounded by a boyfriend and his friends who didn’t care about her, pushing her further and further into the toxic empathy of the cult. Everything in the film made perfect sense. If you don’t think so, you barely paid attention
@@Jmoth792 or maybe it just didn't make sense to me :) I didn't buy it, I felt like it wasn't organic. While I can understand what they were pushing for, and there's things I thought they did right imo, overall wasn't my cup of tea. Maybe I had other expectations, that's on me ig. Personally when I watch a movie, even though I know I would probably make different choices, I feel like a big part of writing is to convince the audience that the characters are fleshed out and make sensible decisions, and I just wasn't convinced. It has a lot going for it in other senses. We can agree to disagree :)
I can see what you’re saying, and it’s been a couple months since I’ve watched it last so I might be getting some details wrong, but I think one aspect you’re missing is that the cult had logical answers for where people were when they went missing and why people were not leaving together. For example, having a truck with only one passenger seat and not being willing to break traffic laws. They presented their cases in such a logical way so as to gaslight the others. Obviously as the viewer you know something is wrong, the characters also reference how something seems weird, but even the friend group just accepts the narratives and help to gaslight one another into feeling security. Your first natural instinct isn’t that people are being murdered randomly by the nice people that are hosting you. It’s to believe what you’re being told by the nice people who are hosting you. It shows how easily people can be manipulated by groupthink and coordination. Add onto that manipulation the heavy use of drugs and apparent lack of sleep (as referenced by the constantly crying baby and nightly sleeping pill Dani asks Josh for) and you have extremely vulnerable targets. Just to address Josh taking pictures of the sacred texts. This was totally out of character, but it was intentional to show how Christian’s actions negatively impact everyone around him. Christian jockeying for information forced Josh’s hand to do something drastic in order to make sure he had a more credible thesis. Remember they reference that writing about the cult would have no way of being verified or peer reviewed. I saw Josh’s actions as a way to ensure that he had a way validate his thesis in a way that Christian wouldn’t. This movie, for me, gets better with every viewing. I’d be interested what you’d think of it after watching it with the mindset that these people are extremely vulnerable as opposed to these are people who should have the same sense of danger that you, the viewer, does.
@@hagarst3303 Try Green Room, one of my favorite horror films of all time. Super underrated, starring Anton Yelchin and Patrick Stewart. It’s unlike most horror films because there’s no supernatural element so the premise is believable, which to me makes it even more horrifying. And while the characters make some dumb decisions, a) it makes sense because they’re young and thrown into a seemingly hopelessly, genuinely confounding situation, and b) the writer creates an emotional connection with the main character and the audience in a way Ari Aster doesn’t. Plus it makes excellent use of the unexpected; because of the nuanced nature of the premise, it’s tough to predict what will happen next through much of the film or judge the characters for their decisions (mostly). Definitely check it out.
@@07Dsach I get what you're saying!! And I agree with you, after watching it the first time I was definitely a little shocked and things didn't add up to me. I still think that after observing the cliff ritual, I would expect some more suspicions or some kind of uncomfort or shock from the group that was lacking, like I knew this was going to be a horror movie but even I was shocked at the blatancy and confidence of the cult inviting their guest into this absolutely shocking ritual. Also after a couple of days I could internalise a lot more details that I brushed off, I completely agree with you on the photo detail you mentioned! Idk maybe horror doesn't do it for me, it hardly manages to engage me and funnily enough gore and body horror definitely isn't my thing lol, I think I had different expectations from this movie and unsurprisingly it turned out to be what you would expect entering a horror film. Or maybe a second viewing will change my mind, anyways thank you for your input!!
Drinker is highly over rated. He is mildly anti-woke, except when he isn't, and all of his reviews are shallow. My own take - Midsummer is exceptionally well made.
I am of course at anti woke at times, but only when it is relevant. Yes the film is a perfectly crafted, the foreshadowing, symbolism, and cinematography is Kubrick levels or beyond.
@@WhatisReal11 the critical drinker knows his audience is 35 yr old basement dwellers. he uses anti-wokeness to stay relevant and pander to his audience. I don't think he's ever formed a real thought about a movie
@@pinkmidi6553 I understand it to a point because it can ruin films, but when it takes over every single point someone makes about literally anything, its just stupid.
Surprise, surprise; subsisting on a diet of terrible Hollywood cape-shit rots your brain. I’m shocked, stunned even. Great video, dude. You deserve more subs.
Hilarious how you literally reveal all the things he bashed accurately, including the fact you think you are intelligent when you praise such an obviously amateur POS...he LITERALLY bashed a thing like you for that so he is LITERALLY ahead of you...the fact that you don't realize it and you make this video means you LITERALLY fall into his fucking trap...you are the definition of mentally deficient subhuman retardation because, on top of the fact that you objectively embody it, you don't realize that he shat all over you 😂😂😂😂😂😂
No I cut out parts of his dialogue and used portions of it for fair use. I cant simply replay his entire video. And again he is objectively wrong on many points. Please tell me specifically what I misrepresented and twisted?
@@HILAL19564 lol no I really just didn't like this one.. hereditary was good in many ways.. I had some issues with it (mostly minor I guess, BUT SIMILAR) but this one.. mannnnnnnn.. I truly despise this movie. It makes me mad watching it, honestly. I hate the story, I hate the characters, I hate the logic, I truly hate this movie. It's kind of crazy how strongly I dislike this movie 😕 LOL. If I have to see that girl ugly-cry one more time, or her stupid boyfriend trying to cope, Im gonna have to kill myself and my parents..
You travel to another continent with friends, they get missing and you somehow stay cool about it? This is the worst movie I watched that entire year. It wasn't scary at all. Bland and uninteresting.
That's not what happened. The cult planned on murdering or sacrificing them from the very start. They weren't cool with it, they were being feed drugs and being manipulated the entire time, the couple was explained away via having a fight. Pay closer attention. They get missing, isn't proper English.
I have noticed whenever someone criticizes drinker their videos get a lot of hate from drinker fans but whenever someone criticizes nerdotic. His fans don't comment anything negative in the video of the person criticising him. Even though both drinker and nerdotic believe in the same things. Either people really really like drinker or the drinker is buying subs and paying them to comment negative stuff on the people criticising him. What do you think?
I really don't understand where people get the idea that Midsommar shows/thinks Christian deserved being burned alive... I thought that the point was that she was easily brainwashed because of how broken her mind is from the tragedy she suffered. Also, Christian literally IS the dude that sells out his friends that Drinker references at the end of gis video. I actually do really like a lot of Critical Drinker's content too but his constant harping about "girl bosses" gets in the way of the aspects of his content that I do enjoy.
Because it wasn't just some arbitrary thing written into the plot for shock factor. Thats why. Because the movie has culture and historical reasons for its choices, thats why.
@@WhatisReal11 None of which makes it an effective horror movie. BTW I think you misunderstand CD's comparison of the characters in Midsommer's not leaving and slasher movies. It is a common convention in horror movies that the characters do not leave an obviously dangerous place. That is most certainly the case in Midsomer. There is a feeling from quite earl on that they won't be allowed to leave.
@@teebeedahbow it's not a horror movie. Just because Ari Aster made Hereditary doesn't mean he is immediately put in a box and forced to make horror movies for the rest of his life. A lot of people expected to see a horror movie, and because the movie has some horror elements to it, they tricked themselves into thinking that they were watching a horror movie that isn't scary, therefore they come to the conclusion that it's bad. And the slasher movie comparison doesn't make sense. Simon and Connie tried to leave, they were killed. Josh already knew what the ritual was, and he still wanted to see it so he could write about it in his thesis, so it wouldn't make sense for him to want to leave. Mark didn't see the ritual, but after they told him what happened he felt like he missed out, and given how he's literally the "fool" of the story, it's not surprising that he stayed. Christian acted like he was shocked so that he doesn't look weird, but in reality he found it as an opportunity to steal Josh's idea, which makes sense since he lives his life with no direction and no passion. And Dani is seen literally packing her stuff to leave, but Pelle stepped in and manipulated her into staying by telling her exactly what she wanted to hear. Even if they wanted to leave, they couldn't. The cult can't risk getting exposed to the outside world, that's why they killed Simon and Connie.
@@johngrizis it must certainly is a horror movie, by content, by references, by plot structure etc etc it’s not a very good horror movie, but that’s another question.
Iconic 70s classic The Wicker Man did it first and didn't have a dumb plot with moronic characters everywhere. It had far more to say and question with pagan vs christianity cultures :-)
Yes. That movie is a classic and deserves far more recognition than it has. It was better at communicating its messages about cults and didn’t just throw twists everywhere just to shock people.
thank god someone sad it. Midsommar was one of the best movies to come out recently and is not your typical dump slasher movie. Criticle drinker can drink some period juice!
Hilarious how you literally reveal all the things he bashed accurately, including the fact you think you are intelligent when you praise such an obviously amateur POS...he LITERALLY bashed a thing like you for that so he is LITERALLY ahead of you...the fact that you don't realize it and you make this video means you LITERALLY fall into his fucking trap...you are the definition of mentally deficient subhuman retardation because, on top of the fact that you objectively embody it, you don't realize that he shat all over you 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I don’t agree. In my view, this movie was super pretentious and told its story in so many contrived ways. If you like it, that’s fine, but I could barely sit through it. I don’t think it is one of the best movies of recent memory, there are so many better movies that came out the same year and in the previous years.
I think drinkers movie critique style isn’t superficial or shallow, he brings an interesting perspective on the incentives that people have to make movies or other media, how is that superficial
Was the retard wearing the face yes or no? I was talking about this particular analysis, he objectively gets many things wrong and responds to his strawman version of the film, that's not merely a different opinion. I am heavily anti woke most of the time.. When its appropriate and actually there. His entire analysis of this is projecting what's not even in the film
@@WhatisReal11 The crux of The Critical Drinker's analysis is not to provide a synopsis, but to critique the thematic concepts the movie introduced in its story. This movie chose to use vague abstract sequences that were left to interpretation. Film makers, who do this, tend to claim that all interpretations of their films are valid. In a world where the woke claim that everything is a micro-aggression (ie history becomes her-story) it isn't weird at all that CD would interpret a movie that has an emotionally hurting woman find the inner strength to burn her 'cheating" boyfriend to death; (even though he technically got raped), as being a woke-agenda based, man hating, feminist, girl power flick. If you don't like that interpretation... blame Ari Aster, not the person who interpreted a movie that leaves no option other than... interpreting the movie. My bottom dollar says you have ZERO clue what Midsommar was trying to impart. We can only "know" what was spelled out. Consider Quentin Tarantino's claim that King Kong was about slavery and the white man's fear of black men taking white women. The King Kong makers came out and said, no it wasn't. It was about a big ass gorilla. Films left to interpretation are the laziest movies, and unfortunately, the most popular. Everyone falls in love with their own version.
@@espressogirl68ableMidsommar, Metropoplis, The Descent, Fight Club, Eraserhead, Perfect Blue, Paprika, Birdman, do these suck? They're all left to interpretation and are all great. By your logic, Stanley Kubrick, Saypshi Kon, and Alfred Hitchcock are some of the worst filmmakers ever.
No he just interjects his anti-woke perspective into everything, often completely missing the point of the movie he’s supposed to be reviewing. Just like feminist critique interject a revenge fantasy/liberation story into Midsommar, also missing the point.
@@espressogirl68ablea film that gets misinterpreted is not the same as a film open to interpretations. Someone interviewed Ari Aster and said “to me this felt like a happy ending” and Aster was like “Uhhh …”. No, it’s not a happy ending and it’s not a feminist revenge tale. It’s about how cults exploit and brainwash lonely and traumatized people.
Yeah but films are where goodies get the screen time and baddies get killed at the end, and then we are all happy😊 Is the man in the bear bad? I don't know😕 This does NOT make us all happy😭 Needs a remake with good/bad coloured lightswords and hats so i can be happy when the bad man dies😊
Wow, you literally summed up the retardation of people who like amateur bullshit and call it art...it is that it is NOT a good film, and it is not deep when it is objectively amateur and stupid and what you don't realize it Drinker appreciates depth, EARNED depth which you will never understand...and you actually think that Star Wars is shallow because that the kind of pseudo intellectual retardation that makes a retarded comment like that, then goes on to use Ari Aster shit as an alternative, which makes you look even stupider...at least replace it with something well made...but the fact that you can't do that LITERALLY spills out the problem with the pseudo intellectual retardation of the culture...Drinker just shat all over you...good job, mentally deficient pseudo intellectual worm
I stopped watching four minutes in. You didn't get the "vegan friend" reference, which was obviously what the rest of the group felt towards Dani (except the cult dude) when they heard she's joining the trip. That they are not fans of her was clear from the first scene with Christian. But whatever. More importantly, you literally said it is "reasonable" that someone stays to work on their thesis after witnessing a woman smashing her brains out in a pagan ritual, and a group of cultists mercy killing another serial suicider with a giant hammer. This is ...absurd. I'm actually going to find the CD's review now, he seems to actually understand how silly the movie was.
Not being comfortable around her, or feeling awkward around an unwanted girlfriend is not equivalent to blur haired obese woke vegan activists. And some of if not all of the awkwardness was due to knowing her entirely family just died...sorry you lack nuance.. And the retard was not wearing the face. If you'd bother to listen to the whole video, Critical Drinker is objectively wrong about the film regardless of opinion on liking it or not.
@@WhatisReal11 Oh, re: vegan activist -- so you don't understand what a hyperbole is? Gotcha. As for his factual error, yes, he was wrong, but you latch onto it as if somehow this one non-consequential mistake invalidates the entire review. FWIW, I actually watched it and while I don't agree with everything he says, I'm about 80% on his side. He did a great job pointing out the idiocy of some of the scenes.
@@AdrianChmielarz I am aware of what hyperbole is. A hyperbole should have some actual foundation in reality which its exaggerating upon. In this case, it had absolutely zero relevance to what was actually in the film so I don't find that to be a relevant term to describe anything in the film. So you perhaps watched my whole video and I got the other 20 percent of your opinion. Mission accomplished, if you browse the comments of his video alot of people agree with me, so I just wanted to voice that opinion. Yes opinion.
If youre willing to address the topic, im curious as to why you scrubbed your channel a few years ago? Do you have plans of finishing the twin peaks content?
I don't have plans to do that. Honestly all the pizza related crap and some other stuff I encountered just freaked me out in general, it got to be too stressful. I probably would have had my channel deleted with some of my old videos. I have a little of the old channel in some stuff now, but its more just my general take on things. I don't want to be pinned down to be a "conspiracy theorist"
@@WhatisReal11 Thats a shame. You had the ballsiest content on the topic. Was it the content that 'freaked' you out, or someone? I seem to recall somebody claiming that you had essentially been sent some sort of message to scare you off.
So if that was humor, does that mean that it wasn't his actual opinion? What does he actually think about the movie then? His video title is literally "Midsommar is terrible" so where's the joke?
I'm a genuine FAN of Critical Drinker and this is definitely not just him being funny. He missed the mark on this one and let the whole "girl boss" thing get in the way of the story the film is trying to tell. It's an issue I've been having with some of his content in general lately. Nobody likes a Mary Sue but sometimes, and in Midsommar in particular, he's creating straw-men
At the time this came out I liked drinker. I also really liked Midsommar. When I saw his review I was so thrown off and thought I had missed something. So I watched Midsommar again. Then I realized Drinker was either being intentionally contrarian, or he’s an absolute moron.
He viewed the film through assuming its woke, and projected his idea of what he thinks his audience wants to hear rather then seeing what the film actually is
@@WhatisReal11 I think we can see what his intentions were all along now that he’s apparently trying to parlay his success into some sort of partnership with Daily Wire. I don’t hate on the guy, I think he got this one way wrong and if I ever find myself watching his stuff I take his opinions with about 12 tablespoons of salt. Anyways, great video man. Subbed 👍🏼
people have to start accepting that movie critics watch and enjoy movies in a different way than the average audiences. you are absolutely allowed to like things Drinker says is complete trash, but you can't compare his views with yours and then "Call him out on his bullshit" and say how wrong his review is, when you two didn't even watch the movie from the same point of view and for the same reason. his review comes from the viewpoint of a decently successful author who wrote some decently selling books, and his review appeals to an audience that is interested in the parts and viewpoints of someone like that. your review is on a more casual level than that, and your review appeals to people that just want to watch a movie and not think about the "nerdy" stuff in the background, the "nerdy" stuff being the stuff Drinker focuses on. neither of your reviews are wrong, and neither of your reviews are bad. they are just catered towards different audiences with different reasons for watching a movie and different ways of consuming it. thing is, when you go out and say "His review is dumb and wrong and ridiculous" you completely miss the point of what a review even is supposed to be, and with wording like that, you lose a lot of respect and credibility that you might have kept if you just worded yourself something along the lines of "I really liked the movie, and here is where my review differs from Drinker's and why". if you care, I would suggest you watch the follow up video he made about the "controversy" surrounding his review.
There are parts of his review that are objectively wrong. The retard doesnt kill the dude wearing a face. Yes everyone is free to subjective interoperation, so as long they aren't strawmannirg and literally mis reporting aspects of the film. I stated people are free to their interoperation.
My review is casual? I have never in my life been labeled as a casual analyzer. I go into depth far beyond what is mindless and casual. Watch my 2001 or Donnie Darko analysis if you think I am casual.
I think CD started youtube because he genuinely doesn't want movies to become formulated and shitty. However he became "the guy to shit on every movie" much like YMS. But unlike YMS, It seems CD doesn't even watch movies properly anymore, so he can just trash them lazily for the sake of his content.
Sometimes his takes are on point, and sometimes wokeness does actually destroy films. But this analysis was just pure projection. And yes it’s sometimes seems like he is just appealing to that reactionary audience.
I find it odd how polarizing this movie is, i enjoyed it mainly because of the visual and sound horror, but I can see why some people would find it boring I guess it just depends on what scares or intrigues you.
Yeah i liked it but idk if i would rewatch it anytime soon, mainly because the large orgy seen was a bit much 😂. I mean i get they were trying to make it disturbing but wow 😂@WhatisReal11
If it is not supposed to be a 'lesson in growth' why do you keep banging on about 'empathy'. It doesn't encourage sympathy. And you sound really childish when you keep calling CD dummy, It rather undermines any seriousness your review (of a review) might have.
He's always slurring and misses points in the movie im like did he even watch the movie? He's just trying to be edgy and loves to press that cue the fart button and leeloos laugh from fifth element it's pretty cringe. He just shits on every movie literally
The movie sucked soooo much ass. Nobody in their right mind would hang around a bunch of cult-like hippies (first red flag). Then after falling off a cliff and all the weird shit going on, like fuck no man. I'm outta here. So freaking dumb.
@WhatisReal11 from the start, if you see a bunch of people all dressed alike, smiles on their faces, living in perfect harmony, in the middle of nowhere, that doesn't raise any hairs on the back of your neck?
Just watched the movie and watched Drinker’s review to see what he thought. Boy, wasn’t that a mistake… I’d love to see you cover other videos of his where he’s just blatantly wrong on the subject he discusses.
@@WhatisReal11 Ari Aster thought he was going to make a millennial Wicker Man, but failed miserably. Sorry kids, your films suck, you have no culture, and nothing you create will be remembered or iconic. Your A24 films do not measure up to what came before you.
@@WhatisReal11 Also, it was your quite erroneous suggestion that CD didn't sympathise with Pugh's character because of some lack of 'empathy' with what she had gone through. You do realise that the murders didn't actually happen, don't you? So, CD's in my view quite legitimate points are, that 1) that the suicidal, patricidal, matricidal sister back plot was contrived, and 2) Pugh's character is annoying and unsympathetic anyway.
@@teebeedahbow his point wasn't that the sister's suicide and murder of her parents was contrived. He said that it would have been more interesting if it was, which misses the point of the movie. The point is how grief and an unstable emotional state and relationship can get people taken advantage of. If the cult had anything to do with the killing of her family, then the manipulation and recruitment of Dani would feel completely out of her control and would seem inevitable. Instead of that, the movie makes it seem that Christian's ignorance and manipulation is the cause for Dani's fragile emotional state, which creates some really interesting discourse about his fate being cathartic or tragic, depending on how you look at it. All of that wouldn't be as impactful as it was, if the tragedy that took place in the beginning was orchestrated. Also, I don't see how Pugh's character is annoying or unsympathetic in any way. If you can't sympathize with grief and mental illness, you're either completely heartless, or you don't know how going through something like that feels like.
@@johngrizis I’d rather follow the story of the outright cruelty of Pugh’s character. Her vengeful spite. Much more interesting . Her fragility is, in the end, an illusion. Surely she ends up on top having destroyed her boyfriend whose crime was what, not being very sensitive to her grief. But usually people are repelled by grief. It actually isn’t a time when others offer you support. Grieving people are often treated like outcasts. Hence the appeal of her revenge! ‘Let me show you what happens to people who don’t look after my precious feelings!‘
what really matters is that he is really popular... and you are not... keep your opinions to yourself, or at least don't piggyback on someone else's idea then try to embarrass them for clicks.
Ok hypocrite. Reviewing a film, is not exclusively his idea, Einstein. He is objectively wrong about the film, I have made one video based on his wrong review. I am typically anti woke myself, his review being dumb is my actual opinion. I doubt he would be embarrassed by my video, relax.
Honestly, this is another pump and up film at best. There's a reason nobody talks about it anymore, hell those are reason everybody forgot about it a month after it released. That's because it's just another horror flick at best, and a kind of forgettable one at worst.
Terror Formed made a video 5 months ago about the discourse around this movie and why it misses the point of the film Novum made a 7 hour video 2 months ago explaining literally everything in the movie meeptop made a video 3 weeks ago changing his mind about the movie and why he was wrong in his original video And calling it a horror movie is straight up just wrong. Even the director has said that it doesn't fit in that genre. Also wtf is a pump and up? You clearly don't know what you're talking about and you're just trying to convince yourself that everyone else agrees with your opinion.
Or he's a pu$sy who can't handle a differing opinion even though he's all about masculinity and being fearless but himself fails to live upto to those ideals
@@AvvieLanche as in he has done nothing wrong, he hasn't harassed anyone, he hasn't harmed anyone and he's not as stupid as the brainwashed few seem to think, all the drinker has ever done was speak his mind and in this day and age apparently that's a sin, the drinker is a visionary, the diamond in a sea of unrefined pebbles, the venal hatred against him is unjustified.
I do appreciate Critical Drinker, but yeah he can be wrong. I don’t think Misommar is a masterpiece (and there are some “woke” aspects of it though it isn’t unbearable). But it is a decent competently made film.
Sorry I’m playing devil’s advocate here. But I agree this is just him being dismissive for the sake of being dismissive. It’s no better than a lot of more left wing videos will do
@@ADL-vy2el Exactly. I myself am anti woke most of the time, I agree with drinkers general stance on modern entertainment, as you can see from other videos. But I don't just go by default and try to have nuanced opinions rather than appeal to one side or the other.
I came across his video on accident and since Midsommar is my favourite movie, I was really intrigued to see how someone could have the opposite opinion. I was gravely dissapointed to discover it was just an exaggerated and overly negative review made to gain viewership through shock factor and rage bait, with a bit of misogyny thrown in. I've seen 20 word posts negatively talking about this film that had way more insight than the critical drinker. He's the perfect example of the degradation of media literacy.
Is sounding drunk and slurring one's words supposed to be a selling-point? I don't see the appeal to it. It kills me how much some people have to read their culture war hang-ups into everything.
@@WhatisReal11 I've seen it from both right-leaning reactionary and progressive-minded types where they'd read into something in a movie too much and misunderstand it completely and go on a sermon that's far removed from what I saw.
@@llamasarus1my favorite one to hate watch is Patricia Taxxon talking about how objective criticism doesn’t exist. I generally like her work, but that video is awful.
You have completely missed the point of CD's sarcasm about the murdering suicidal sister. His tone expresses how absolutely ridiculous and arbitrary this back story is. I think it is laughable that you seriously accuse CD of 'a lack of empathy' - actually you mean sympathy, for a start. Again, I think CD is right to draw attention to the far fetched and silly nature of that back story.
You mean that mental illness and suicide is silly and far fetched? Sorry to be the one to tell you, but the world isn't all sunshine and rainbows. The movie is clearly fiction, but acting like these kind of things don't happen in real life is so naive.
@@johngrizis Just because it is about ‘mental health’ does not make it automatically serious. Besides, it is the contrivance of the suicide murder that is silly, not the thankfully extremely rare cases in which such things happen. And I agree with CD that the film has nothing serious to say about any of these ‘themes’.
@@teebeedahbow I don't know why you got it drilled into your head that the murder suicide is contrived. It's clearly not. The Ardor family lives in Utah, and Dani lives in New York with Christian, where Pelle is with him in a restaurant at the time of the murder. It is physically impossible for him to have organised this.
@@johngrizis I mean it is contrived in the plot. It is not a natural or fitting event for the story. The only reason it happens is that the plot needs it to happen. It's just an extreme way for Christian not to be able to tell his needy girlfriend to get lost.
@@teebeedahbow Not a natural or fitting event in the story? Wtf are you talking about? That's literally how the story starts. Now you're just clutching at straws because you realised that your original argument doesn't make sense, not that this one does.
It's kind of funny. This review is the one that got me to unsub from Critical Drinker. And he kept getting worse. Which is clear to me it was all an attempt to get him on the "woke anti woke" whining network he's in deep with now. Thanks for this video. Midsommar is one of my fav films.
Drinkers review has 2.1M views. This guys video has 1.6K views. That explains the whole point of this video. Name dropping for attention rather than just giving your opinion straight forward. After all, its just YOUR opinion. Its neither wrong nor right so im not sure how you can triumphantly declare Drinker review was "wrong"
I clarified he has the right to his own opinion buddy. What he states throughout the review is literally objectively and factually wrong. The retard does not kill the dude, did you miss the part where I showed that? I literally point out why he is objectively wrong many times, thats not merely opinion. Do you know the difference between subjective and objective? And yes he is a massive name, keep stating the obvious. The retard NOT killing the dude but being in the corner is NOT an opinion, I am RIGHT.
Lol you repeated the same thing multiple times. I got it. Doesn't change the fact your dick riding on this dude for views. Why not just give YOUR opinion without mentioning the opinion of anyone else? Youre just putting his name in the title for views. It's cheap. You're relying on HIS popularity rather than your own work. It's pretty insecure on your end. As if your work doesn't stand on its own without Drinkers name propping it up.
Lol that dumbass was objectively wrong. If he didn’t like the movie, that’s fine. More power to him. But him putting out a poorly thought out review where he it’s multiple details wrong or completely changes the context of multiple scenes, he deserves to be goofed on. Even Angry Joe had a much more nuanced review then drinker’s
Lol and what do the views have to do with anything. That’s like saying people who criticized the Wall review so that they could name drop the nostalgia critic. 😂
Is it sad? How about address the points I actually made in the video? Was what I stated true or untrue? it wasn't merely meant to attack someone, I am saying what I mean. "Credentials" has nothing to do with being blatantly objectively provably wrong.
Better credentials? Fucking LOL! Critical Drinker is just another mediocre anti-sjw grifter hack and his review of Midsommar is absolutely embarrassing.
@@WhatisReal11 It’s actually sad that one has to go after another critic in order to try to boost their content. Just review the film as you see, and let that review stand on its own.
@@bjk6574 No it's not. Anyone can criticize anyone. Stop being against criticism just because you don't want your feelings to get hurt when someone criticizes drinker
devilman crybaby is actually sick af and thats kind of a shithead response ngl@@WhatisReal11 no reason to even respond if thats what youre gonna say. lame as hell. 1st and last video I see from you
can tell you that is untrue. CD is the very embodiment of a British "Scot", his act is in and of itself a ruse that catches most people out because its so strange and niche. Put simply he is playing the role of a drunken kook while actually being a witless (politically disenfranchised) unionist.
I did not like Midsommar, but you are spot-on about The Drinker. I hopped over there to see what he had to say, and found his anti-woke bitch-fest gross and annoying.
Mid Solar was crap, just like Nomadland & any other A24 film I’ve had the unfortunate circumstance to sit through. All A24 are purposefully self aware and more concerned with style over substance, as not one has had a compelling story to show through the medium of film.
Purposely self aware? What does that even mean? Self awareness doesn’t happen accidentally, that’s oxymoronic. Do films ever get made accidentally? Or un intentionally? Ex Machina isn’t compelling to you? You must be as deep as a kitty pool.
Hilarious how you literally reveal all the things he bashed accurately, including the fact you think you are intelligent when you praise such an obviously amateur POS...he LITERALLY bashed a thing like you for that so he is LITERALLY ahead of you...the fact that you don't realize it and you make this video means you LITERALLY fall into his fucking trap...you are the definition of mentally deficient subhuman retardation because, on top of the fact that you objectively embody it, you don't realize that he shat all over you 😂😂😂😂😂😂
The movie for me was a prelude to 2020....the scene where everybody was 6 feet apart watching the old man jump off the cliff reminded me.of a protest in 2020. People with masks on 6 feet apart giving a moment of silence for George Floyd I believe....following the cult of BLM/Fauci (or the cult-ural current thing).
I hate Critical Drinker become he said Ant-Man and the wasp 3 was bad but it was amazing i watch it on Disney it seem like to me he hater the movie become it had Women
why are you responding so seriously to a video that is clearly made to mock and entertain? cmon man you're better than that. btw, this movie isn't that good, not the plot or the characters at least
Why shouldn't he respond? No one is above criticism Drinker has the right to criticize anything woke and this guy has the right to criticize drinker. As simple as it gets
@@newyardleysinclair9960 The retard not wearing the dudes face, Is not an opinion. He misrepresented the entire film, that's different than simply not liking it.
Totally agree on the entire critique, I love Midsommar and the fact that he used it to attract views has really bugged me for a long time. the drinker is Scottish btw…not Irish
I disagree. I think this movie was overrated and pretentious. The Drinker doesn't like it, because he doesn't like it for his own reasons, nothing more nothing less.
@@Jmoth792 Oh. Shut the hell up. Nobody asked you to trash on Marvel fanboism here. I have high quality standards and just don't like this movie AT ALL, for normal reasons, people like or dislike any movie. Do people who like Marvel films not like other films as well according to your twisted view? If I had your idea of standards I would have praised the MCU regardless of which movies were good or bad. So, your idea does NOT hold up. Just look at the critical drinker's reviews on the latest Marvel crap we got, and tell me how much I am a Marvel defender as I watch a lot of his reviews and agree with plenty of them, especially the ones on the Marvel movies.
I will make a video on drinker in few years. He's way too popular can't really target him now I'm obviously going to get a lot of sh't if i do make a video on him. I need to be more strategic when it comes to targeting him. You are really brave I won't deny that the fact that you are going after him.
"Targetting him"? Really? So it's not about criticizing him, it's about targetting him. And you can't do it because..... You aren't big enough? Why? Doesn't stop others. You're gonna get hate and clapback regardless of subs you know.
If you make logical points then you can do it now, just not anything that can be easily disproven, like saying that he hates women or something unless you have overwhelming direct proof and not just snippets of anti woke quotes.
