This scene it's great IMO because the writers had so very little time to set the character of George. So in a single scene the put everything we need to know: his frequents of fits anger, his problem speech, his unelegant sense of humour, his cancer. They had a couple of minutes, and they squezeed them very well.
And the most important thing, they SHOWED us. They didnt TELL us. Show us who our characters are rather than telling us who they are. It is much more impactful
@T H the collars were actually used so that there was less washing. It meant that only the collar had to be washed instead of the whole shirt because the collar builds up the most dirt. They also looked very near as they were stiffened to a cardboard stiffness with starch.
@@carltrotter7622 I'm a barrister and we still usually wear detachable collars like these, but it's mostly out of convenience - much handier when rushing into court to just whip off a full collar and tie and replace them with a winged collar and bands, rather than stop to change shirts! Haha But that's very interesting about them being handier for washing, I didn't realise that before
@@justv5136 It was just a theory in the 1940's by certain scientists and most certainly were not published. My mother and her siblings all started smoking in the 1940's and she told me that when she started in high school there was NOTHING about them being bad for ones health.
Peter was a good equerry. Attentive to the kings needs and knew he was a little embarrassed for losing his temper and kept him focused on him and not who he had yelled at and distracted him with dirty limericks
I would've snapped back and said; "FUCK YOU AND YOUR COLLAR!! DO THAT SHIT YOURSELF!" lol What's the worse the King could've done? Fire me? Oh well. lol
The Duke of York (not Prince Andrew) used to be a simple nobleman who found joy in collecting stamps and receiving love from his wife. It was when his brother King Edward VIII abdicated for marrying Wallis Simpson he had to forgo his own private life and became the sovereign. The king job exhausted him as he dedicated his remaining life to serve the crown.
@@hermanjacobs4425 His chain smoking did not help either. Naïve as I was I thought he stopped smoking during his speech lessons as showed in the King's Speech", but that was a director's creativity.
The Queen wanted to, it's possible that George VI's experience would have allowed him to navigate the roadblocks more successfully than a new and naive monarch, or that as an experienced monarch he would know from the outset it wasnt possible and denied permission immediately, rather than delayed.
1:01 "Sir, eyes front." As upright as he seems, dangerous is the man who is able to tame & command his lover's father, let alone his king. I wonder what kind of unique trouble he would have got the royal family in had he been allowed to marry the Princess Margaret.
This scene does such an amazing job of establishing the tone of The Crown. The writers separated it from anything else we had seen on the royals in just a few minutes.
When Princess Margaret saw him again several years later, she told her friend that Peter had not changed one bit. All her friend saw was an old man in his late 70s but Margaret only saw him as an unchanged Peter.
There was a young lady from Dallas Who used a dynamite stick as a phallus They found her vagina in North Carolina and her asshole in Buckingham Pallace.
I don't know what it is about Jared Harris, he's a normal looking sort of guy and most of the roles he plays are not particularly remarkable men (even if they're the king) but somehow he's one of the most mesmerising performers out there. He really draws the eye and commands your attention.
If medicine hadn't been crap back then, they would've known the fact that the bloddied spittle was a symptom of bronchial lesions, and the mark of lung cancer.
Medicine and health care really were improving around this time, it's just doctors didn't realize that smoking was linked to lung cancer until the 1960s.
You’re an arrogant idiot, and probably a Millennial. Medicine was not « crap » then, it was the best it could be at the time. 65-100 years from now someone could be saying today’s medicine is crap. Moron.
I recall seeing a man in his pyjamas in a wheelchair at the entrance of a hospital ‘enjoying’ a smoke with his oxygen bottle attached to the back of the wheelchair. An insidious addiction.
Did you know that back in the day cigarettes/pipes were actually recommended for people with lung problems or respiratory illnesses? They claimed that the smoke would "clear out" anything causing the harm? We forget how many dangerous myths health research and science have shattered over the decades that we now take as for granted.
@@mikeq7134 At least not in front of the public eye. Juliana Queen of the Netherlands til 1980 neither smoked in front of the public eye, but was such an addict that she used her handbag as ashtray .
i love this scene because it is so early and when he explodes at the butler you wonder is he a jerk ?? and then as the show goes on you realize he really is a nice guy. This scene also illustrates why Peter Townsend is so critical for the king. Loved this series until season 4, now its dark and resentment to the royals is festering all over the place.
To be fair the 1980s and 90s was getting unpopular for them because of Diana who had the nation /world’s heart and the way the Royal family were becoming detached to things like the Troubles, strikes etc. the anti establishment feeling was growing anyway with younger people- who are now probably the age of all the people involved in writing The crown.
@@lucieirl The modern British monarchy can never be popular with everyone but I'd say that the 1980-90s were the first time Elizabeth II began to receive genuine public hostility during her reign. It's not really surprising season 4 is so gloomy compared to season 1 when you consider what a tough time some members of the royal family were having in their private lives.
@@elamplough1 sorry, I didn’t get a notification on this. But yeah that’s true too, they were all suddenly dealing with a plethora of pent up issues since the 50s (well the older gen was). The crown late s3 and 4 did manage to make me feel bad for Prince Philip even, with the loss of faith and dickie tragedy
@@elamplough1 though to be fair, the show had its fair share of dark moments from the start. Season 2 is where we begin to see more of the darkness steeped into the forefront.
@@elamplough1 When dd her reputation and popularity begin to rise again? Now she herself is pretty widely respected, even if other members of the family aren’t.
From this scene alone, it’s very easy to see why Peter Townshend fell in love with Margaret. She’s very much her father’s daughter, limericks included. Peter was the only one who could calm King George in a difficult moment. Margaret later described Peter as “my sun, my water”, showing how he brought a similar calm to her life. It’s all the more reason Margaret and Peter should’ve been allowed to stay together.
I just now discovered that he (Jared Harris) is the son of the original Dumbledore (Richard Harris). I remember Jared from an episode of SVU (among a few other things) but I had no idea his dad was Richard! Two incredible actors, indeed.
I love this scene. HRH George VI stood up and took charge after his brother ran off. HM George VI is the hero of Britain 🇬🇧 (edited to the correct honorific-I'm an American, we don't have those over here.)
I really feel sorry for Margaret For she had made Peter her target. If King George was alive, the marriage would thrive. But the Queen treated him like a carpet.
I was trying to write a limerick for my mom’s birthday card and didn’t realize it was so hard! Had to come search this scene to appreciate a good limerick!
Yes and no. That was just a real technique they found in dealing with his stutter/stammer (I never understand the difference sorry!) I think there’s some psychological behind taboo language and emotions to do with speech impediments, sort of how people with Tourette’s say some awful things they don’t mean
@@elamplough1 I may be completely wrong, but i thought that stutter was the repetition of a letter or sound causing inability to finish the word, whereas stammer is long pauses of no sound when a person just can’t get any sound out for a moment, but i’m not an expert.
@@michaelreid1209 No, you're absolutely right. "y y y y yesterday" is a stutter. "yes terday" is a stammer. I had quite a bad stammer as a kid, and my parents stumbled on exactly the right thing to do-they'd tell me "Take your time. We're listening" and that removed the pressure to try and get it out. Hollering "C'mon, boy! Spit it out!!" is actually the worst thing to do. The kid already _knows_ he's supposed to get the words out, and hollering just adds pressure. And it's incredibly frustrating when it happens. You know the word, you know the sounds, but somehow the message from your brain to your vocal cords gets misrouted. I still stammer once in a great while, but I've learned to control it well enough that unless you heard me talk for a long time, you wouldn't know. In fact, I spent 20 years in various public speaking roles, and I think I had one person (who was also a stammerer) catch on.
All you need know to understand Lascelles is when he throws “which of us has forgotten the Somme?” at ex-Edward VIII. There’s a clue to his past in his nickname, “Tommy”. He also won a Military Cross for bravery.
It's pretty amazing to consider that Queen Elizabeth II lost her father (King George VI - played here by the awesome Jared Harris), her grandmother and her sister all to lung cancer due to their heavy smoking habits. When he married Elizabeth in 1947 at the age of 26, Prince Phillip had to give up smoking as one of her hard conditions to marrying him - he may have found it emasculating at the time. He lived another 73 healthy years with her after that. He didn't know it at the time, but she saved his life!
Never understood that. I have zero personal space issues but as an adult I would never be able to cope with someone putting my clothes on for me. Maybe if I were raised that way, I would feel different, though.
Yes, and as Richard Harris was one of my favorite actors when I was young, I'm proud to see his son is also an amazing actor. I have liked everything Jared has been in, but he was top notch in the crown.
it wasn't in the culture of the generation. not just royalty but for wealthy people in general, it was seen as a community service to employ people to do little things because of how bad the working conditions were elsewhere
@@anonymousr1918 This character is a historical figure who had a valet in real life. Whether he actually yelled like this I couldn’t say, but it is in line with what’s known of his personality.
Why does everyone talk about his performance in Chernobyl, and not in The Terror. The Terror very well may have been better than Chernobyl. Incidentally, this series contains two lead actors from The Terror.
This episode shows that George VI is not that saintly at all. Tho he was a great king but he was known for his short temper and enjoys some randy jokes.
I wouldn't say that George VI is generally portrayed as saintly in history anyway, he's just remembered more fondly by many British people for making an effort to boost morale during World War II. It's surprising how many non-Brits have never even heard of him.
remember that as Duke of York - Bertie probably only had a valet helping with his wardrobe and personal care - not a team of men hovering micromanaging “The King’s person” - he was in fact ‘the spare’ and enjoyed a relatively simpler life than he had when he became King - not sure who thought King George VI was saintly - am older 🇨🇦 and have grown up knowing he loved his family (“we four”) - was hard working - got UK thru abdication crisis and WWII - as for randy jokes - Great Britain is the home of Monty Python and that kind of humour 😃😉
The dress shirts we wear today everyday and the dress shirt with a detachable collar, if I had the choice I would choose to wear the dress shirts we wear today everyday.
That's why it's not a good show. It has taken a few facts and turned them into sensationalised fiction. Beautifully produced but may as well be Lord of the Rings.
No. Every historical point in The Crown is in The Diana Chronicles by Tina Brown, published more than a decade before The Crown. The Crown is Not "fiction," - Sorry.
Actually Ben Miles would’ve been a better George VI. He has the hair a little more similar, he’s a bit closer in age, to how old George VI was in 1945-47, he has a thinner frame and slightly smaller head than Jared Harris does, Jared Harris has quite a big or average sized head and is big boned, George VI had a quite small head and was rather thin. Still Jared Harris did a rather good job, a very talented actor.
When the first episode started, I thought they were showing Winston! Had they seen what George looked like? Very gaunt and thin, definitely not as weighty as the actor playing him. He could have lost a bit of weight, knowing the character he was about to play!
I suppose the real appearance of George VI wasn't considered important if he was only going to be in 2 episodes so the actor was picked for acting skills only. It's forgivable when you consider how much the rest of the cast do resemble their characters.
He had a Speech impediment. And he was probably getting agitated over the collar I mean if like 6 grown men kept touching my neck and practically choking me with a tie I’d be upset to...
@@cosmeticscameo8277 Detachable collars were still pretty common even into the 1960s. And he was, after all, the King-it's not like he had to be issued standard RN shirts.
