In another epic scene from The Crown, the Queen lets it rip due to the failing marriage of prince Charles and princess Diana. S04.EP10 I don't own the copyright and only share this as I'm an avid fan of the epic burns in The Crown.
"If one day you expect to be King.." "I do." The daggers of passive aggression, knowing his mother must die for him to be King. Not that he means it, but that was mean.
@@Emiliano_Figueroa Queen Elizabeth will never abdicate her throne. She committed herself to sit on the throne until the day she dies, after her family's history of abdicating the throne.
This is the reason why the queen lives forever! Because she is afraid what might happens into the future if the crown will land to Charles head. God save the Queen!
"I've done my best" my guy you never once stopped or tried to not see Camilla and didn't even have the decency to hide the affair with Camilla. Charles deserved the scolding that he got.
The Queen should have taken her son's hint at his drop of "Mummy." Her son was being vulnerable in this scene (despite his own shortcomings and bad choices in his marriage with Diana) and particularly sought for motherly wisdom and care. Instead, she gave an "On our feet to keep it brief." You could see Charles's hesitation at that, but then he knew that's all the kind of conversation he's going to get from his mother: business-like. 😢
@@blastoiseddr 42 actually. If we take into account Thatcher resigned earlier in the episode, we can say this is Christmas 1990. Charles was already a middle-aged man, and Diana a full adult of 29.
charles and diana were not terrible people(as individuals they are actually quite good and are no worse than most others), they were just terrible towards each other and made a terrible marital union
Prince Charles had the World at his fingers. He was going to be king he had a beautiful wife that really did love him. I say princess Diana had to be one of the most beautiful women of the 21st-century. And she had a loving heart and she had two sons. He had the dream. But he was a cheater and a liar. He deserves everything he gets. Him and his family murdered Diana. They may have not Tampered with the car. But they might as well have!! I truly believe that if Charles becomes king that will be the end of the monarch!!!
@@candyfordinner7216 Yes, but on an emotional level he was never truly avaliable or giving to Diana as a husband should be. While she in turn, was giving all she could give. Charles never stopped his relationship with Camilla (physical or non physical) and I think on some level, that hurt Diana even more then when they resumed their affair in 1986. All the signs were there even before their wedding that Charles had no real intention of forgetting or communicating romantically with Camilla. Diana found the braceless with the Fred & Gladys engravings, two photographs of Camilla falling out of Charles' diary on their honeymoon infront of her and Charles wearing with no shame cufflinks with the engraved intertwined ("like lovers") C's beboldened into them. Despite him saying he tried to make the marriage work from the beginning, all the signs prove the opposite. And as a result, he and the establishment destroyed her mentally and almost broke her spirit.
"I have done my best". I find this funny. Because Charles hasn't tried. Diana has tried endless to create a positive marriage and all she tried to do was please Charles. But all Charles wanted was camila.
To someone as entitled as Charles him doing 'his very best' would have been agreeing to marry Diana at all. It's all perspective, all relative to what you're used to
This marriage was doomed from the start. Even if he had tried his best by cutting off all contact with Camilla, I doubt he would’ve fallen for Diana. It just wasn’t going to work when he never loved her in the first place.
@@valerieng1561 Thank you Valerie! That is what I have been saying this entire time to people who find it convenient to assign blame to Charles, Diana, or both of them for the marriage failing. Charles did not marry Diana because he loved her but rather because it was his duty as Prince of Wales.The queen with her hardened exterior knew this well and so did her husband and the rest of the royal family because they arranged the marriage. Let's get real here... Charles and Diana would both have been better off never knowing and meeting each other.
If anyone who doesn't know, Prince Philipp actually send Diana a letter where he expressed his disapproval of Camilla and his confusion of why Charles picked Camilla over her.
@@rafigt460 Because looks aren't everything you know. We don't know Charles, we don't know Camilla and we didn't know Diana. We just know the Versions of them that were created by the Media.
@@mikipav1064 True. We really don't know what happened behind those closed doors. The media were exploiting the royal families' life for entertainment. Just like Netflix has done.
@@JohnLai queen Elizabeth and Phillip are the perfect examples of monarchs they rule with passion and tradition and somehow have stayed together and been happy with each other for over 60 years Charles only recently married camila after causing Diana mental and physical problems he does not deserve to be king
@@Joseph-v6y that's why Phillip was quite pissed as well, cause Phillip and the Queen went through some turbulence as well seen in earlier seasons but endured the pressure of media and government
@@bardgold4553 his adultery was the reason why chruch of England was found. When he was trying to rid his wife for Anne Boylin it caused a monarchial crisis. So while kings may have had affairs on the side their mistresses were often kept under wraps from the public and clear distinction between family/wife's status in his life versus bachelorhood like behavior were made. Most kings kept mistresses but none placed them over duty.
@@karensmyth1215 That is so true in fact the Catholic Church did noting wrong in England except the pope rejected the divorce to Henry VIII, Henry did not separate the Catholic Church because the so called suffering of the English people but his own Shellfish Desirs and his ego to have a son for a male heir, he became a tyrant an English NERO the truth is the Church of England is based on a lie for 500 years Queen Mary I of England was setting things Right.
"You can't divorce, that's against everything the english monarchy and church stands for" My dudette, the entire thing was started BECAUSE of royal divorce :)
@@CountryCowboy008 Technically speaking, it's annulled, annulled then beheaded, died, annulled, beheaded, survived. The irony is that annulment means that the marriage was null and void from the beginning. One of the charges Anne was supposedly guilty of was adultery. How could she have committed adultery when the marriage never existed?
@@CountryCowboy008 You are correct! Just as the Queen finally ordered the two to get divorced, (even though the COE doesn't condone divorce). Not their marriage annulled. Peter Morgan may have written the dialogue between closed doors, to help fill in the gaps of what he thinks happened (and did a fairly good job of it, imho)--but there is still historical written evidence that says that Henry wanted a divorce from Catherine of Aragon. Not an annulment. Funny that we can find proof of events from 500 years ago, yet still speculate about things from 25 years ago!
This was my favorite scene of the season. Charles deserved the scolding he got and im so glad that Her Majesty basically told the spoiled little shit to shut up. Long may she reign.
I just didn’t like in the previous scene how she treated Diana, this woman was on the brink and she would rather go Feed the Dogs?? She was sooo curt and nasty
@@Ellerich3 If you saw it from Elizabeth's point of view, it makes much more sense. She married at 21, and went through the roughest part of her relationship during her 20s and early 30s. In the beginning of Season 2 when she begins to suspect Philip is cheating on her, she's around 30 years old and he's around 35. In the last episode of Season 2 when she confronts him about his possible infidelity, she's around 37 years old. Prince Philip is around 42. Diana married at 20, she went through the roughest part of her marriage during her 20s. Charles married at 32, and went through the roughest part of his marriage during his 30s. In the last episode of Season 4, when they're both completely cheating on each other, Diana's 29 years old and Charles is 42. These aren't the beautiful but naive young girl and the dashing but misguided young prince. They are two grown-ass adults who are behaving like toxic teenagers. From Elizabeth's point of view, it's ridiculous that they're behaving like this at their age ESPECIALLY when life has handed the best financial and influential circumstances to them on a silver platter. And honestly, she was right to treat them like that.
@@owlman_ UMMMMM maybe Charles, but I respectfully disagree with Diana- my point is. This woman’s sanity was on the brink. Have you ever been in a situation where all u want is to be loved? The one person who u thought was going to give you that Love that you crave for treats you like Trash, and when all u may need is an ally they turn their back on you 2...she literally was ALONE save for Prince Phillip Not to mention she was estranged from her mother due her parents’ divorce when she was very young....this may have added to the need to want to be close to the Queen.
Her verbal abuse in season 3 investiture episode coupled with her ill attempts to love him is it any wounder he's ill equipped to handle anything e.g. jealously and bad attempts at affection. If you want your offspring on the right path makesure you put things in place to keep them on it.
One of the defining moments of Olivia Colman’s performance. Claire Foy has the youth and innocence but this is where Colman shines, as a wiser, more world-withered person who still clings on in there for the sake of her family and country. Brilliant acting.
What I love the most from Olivia Colman's performance as The Queen, is that she started to give her that coldness to the top, I mean Young Elizabeth had to learn to be cold and no let matters affected her, and Adult Elizabeth know realizes that is the way it needs to be. She learned over the years to become this cold woman people sometimes think she is. Colman was mesmerising in both her seasons.
I would add that there were scenes where Claire BRILLIANTLY showed the young queen coming of age and quickly learning how to better grow into her role. I strongly feel the moment she crossed from an innocent little girl into a queen was when she called in Churchill and one of his party leaders to her office and verbally lashed them for hiding so many secrets from her. She was furious because Churchill hid his failing health and was by this time, unfit to rule. She was also furious with Salisbury for hiding the fact that Churchill wasn't ill but had suffered a stroke.
Like... no it’s not that god likes the Brits As the old saying goes “The sun never set on the British empire, because even God couldn't trust the Englishman in the dark” When the Queen dies the Brits will riot 😉
Im just curious, why her sisters didnt step in, after all at least one of them had dated Prince Charles for while. I believed Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles manipulated everything to their own advantage. They were both much older and sexually active for years. Prince Charles needed children, Camilla Parker Bowles had already had her with her husband and didnt want more, they wanted to be together but he needed children at least one son. Prince Charles only married Diana Princess of Wales for children. They are selfish manipulaters that have caused harm and destruction to other people lives. I dont know how the Princes could look at Camilla Parker Bowles and know that she was the cause of destruction.
Diana's father was determined to have one of his daughters marry one of the queens sons. He always hoped one of his older daughters would marry Charles. His hope was Diana would marry prince Andrew. So there was some family pressure on Diana to make them proud.
I blame them both (Diana messed around too), but I blame Charles a lot more. When they married, he was 32 and she was only 20. I can't really blame a 20 year old for having unaddressed psychological baggage from a dysfunctional childhood. However, I do blame a 32 year old who not only still has all that psychological baggage, but apparently hasn't made any effort to address it. From what I can see, Charles was FAR more interested in having a second Mommy to pat his head, kiss his booboos, and tell him how special he was all the time (which Camilla did) than he was interested in being a strong, confident, and emotionally self-sufficient husband (which Diana expected).
Colman nor Foy look like her, but they found her essence and brought it out in their acting. Pretty BRILLIANT! Mirren didn't look like her either, but all of them found something that made their portrayals of her "believable."
@@tillyboos - Claire Danes could have pulled off a young Queen Elizabeth really well in terms of appearance. Helen Mirren did a bang-up job when she played an older Queen back in '06.
@@HookedOnSonics518 what nonsense is this? Diana and Charles were leading separate lives from about 1986 onward. Diana didn't make any effort to stop cheating.. it was just that for a time James Hewitt left her and she was left alone
this is going to sound so so horrible but I was really hoping she would out life him. almost did too. both caught covid19. but I think she stayed on this long so Charles rule would purposely not be long like Edward vii (less then 9)
@@IndependentConversations Well given the longevity of the royal family he could be king for a while. But some people say he looks sick so it may not be the longest reign. Who knows.
In this scene, it really feels as if she's making a jab at all of her children. In her arc in which she is trying to figure out which child is her favorite, she's surprised to discover how spoiled and ungrateful they all are towards her, which is completely unlike what she expected. This scene felt like the end of the arc, where she finally made known how irritated she has become that these children have received almost everything that they could possibly want in life, and yet they're still miserable.
The sad thing is she’s irritated by them because she had to numb herself to uphold the crown, and as a result she pushed away her children. They got little to no genuine love and this is the consequence of that.
@@monicac2466 The story at its heart is about a members of a family struggling to manage and keep separate their two identities from each other: as a family member to each other on one hand, and as a guardian of an institution of another. Queen Mary's letter was basically the instruction sheet to her granddaughter.
@@monicac2466 every leader numbs themself to different degrees, how on earth could they survive if they didn’t? She upheld the crown because she believed in it, she tried her best with her children during a time at which social conventions were rapidly changing. Despite this, she was successful and will be remembered as one of the most influential people to have ever lived.
It’s amazing how we gained sympathy for him as a child, respected him as he grew into his own man or tried, and despised him for his cruelty and childishness as a man.
I actually dislike him less as I've grown older as I realised he wasn't the only one at fault the the notion of the perfect DIsney princess disintegrated
The problem is she was unsympathetic to Diana who was suffering as a result of him treating her like crap. She calls him out for what he does yet does nothing to aid those it effects, forget Elsa, this is the true Ice Queen.
When you watch the two season of the crown and watch Philip and Elisabeth problems in their marriage.. I get what the Queen is saying here .. : deal with it , I have !!!
"No, you're not suffering, we're all suffering for having to put up with this!" Great performance by Olivia Colman. We will never know what the Queen said or did not say to Charles and Diana. If she did say anything remotely close, you can't really blame her. It was reported that both of them, at the time, kept seeking her assistance.
I can most definitely blame her. That horrible woman forced her son into a marriage he didn’t want with a woman he didn’t want. What kind of mother is that?
@@angelicavasquez3870, still no excuse to treat your wife miserably. Even if Charles had no love for Diana, he had 100% obligation to treat her respectfully and kindly.
When you take out the context of them being Royals, it's basically a mother telling her son to stop being a whiney brat and grow up and that's why I find it such a good scene !
"I've done my best, my very best" - the nerve of him saying that. He shut out Diana when she tried to repair the marriage in the previous episode. He gave her no chance.
Judging by the way the queen looked up sharply with that small frown, she clearly agrees. I love how it's not even the anger she shows later, it's genuine confusion that he can say that with a straight face.
@@elva136 Diana too noble??? Come on. She had quite a few affairs, like any woman of her age.. but it did not bother her that her men were married or had other commitments. Charles wanted a good friend for a wife,,, and he iddn't get that in Diana
@@glen7318 that happened after YEARS of Charles cheating on her, gaslighting and emotionally abusing her. She’s human and humans all have a breaking point when they are mistreated and abused.
@@monicac2466 that's not the point. If adultery is SOOO bad, then a "good" woman like Diana should never comit it. And after making a fuss about Camilla taking her man, Diana took up wtih a few men who had wives or serious girlfriends. It didnt bohter her that she was upsetting other women
'Might I request we do it like privy counsellors? On our feet to keep it brief' Clear influence from Churchill on Elizabeth there (from season one, episode three): 'The precedent set by your great-great-grandmother was to keep us standing like privy counsellors. To waste time is grievous sin. If there is one thing I have learned in 52 years of public service, it is that there is no problem so complex, nor crisis so grave, that it can not be satisfactorily resolved within twenty minutes'
"Privy counselors" sounds oddly like someone who is a counselor in the restroom - but I suppose in UK the term has some meaning that makes more sense...
If Prince Philip had not died (elderly people often succumb quickly after the spouse is gone, have seen it often), the Queen would have kept chugging along. She knew what damage Charles would - WILL, now - wreak on the monarchy.
Prince Charles: ‘I have done my best’ QE: reminds him of his betrayal towards Diana and how he doesn’t even try to hide it. So in a sense, she basically tells him, No he hasn’t even tried 😂😂😂
Not excusing Charles, but the whole thing was doomed from the beginning. It takes two to make a rotten marriage. And before the revelations about Camilla and the divorce, Diana was subject of a lot of ridicule herself. The tabloids called the two of them “the whiners of Winchester.”
He wants to seperate but still wants to be king. He just didn t want to sacrifice his own not even a little. This tragedy is all caused by him no doubt.
I guess the reason that she thought both Diana and Charles are being ungrateful and immature because she thought of her great grandmother, Queen Alexandria. She was suffering from her husband, Edward VII’s neglect as well, and also from his countless affairs and basically his total scandalous lifestyle, but the difference was that Queen Alexandria knew what was best for her and she was strong enough to put reason and possibly plotting before her feelings. After all, she outlived her husband and maintained a respectful, powerful Queen. Elizabeth admires firm hearted figures and unfortunately Diana has failed to do that, so from her perspective, Not only Charles, but Diana as well, will definitely bring down the British monarchy if they ever get to be King and Queen.
He really has never had the fiber to be a king.... and to think he demeaned and criticized Diana as having low character, in favor of a woman who had affairs with a married man (himself). As tho Camila, a mistress, could ever inherently have better character than a woman who was faithful in her marriage.
