I’m so happy to see this information get out into the community. People, entrepreneurs, & business owners need to hear these type of stories so they can be aware of the cult like aspect that will suck them into a life they never thought they’d be involved in. I noticed that it’s not talked about enough for numerous reasons. Embarrassment, fear of not fitting in, fear of the organization coming after them, etc. My intention isn’t to make Grant look bad, but rather wake people up. I’m one of the rare individuals who does not back off & I have a purpose to enlighten people to things they may be ignoring or blinded to. My hope is that one person in one of these types of communities hears what I’m saying & recognizes something that I’m talking about that is a red flag or not in alignment with thief values/morals. My purpose is to help others with this message. Not to serve me in any way. Success is in everyone one of us & we don’t “need” to seek it in others.
Thanks so much for sharing, Ben! Your voice is valuable in this space and it’s great that you’re willing to speak up and shed light so hopefully others don’t find themselves trapped.
Knowing ourself is key here, still many don't trust their intuition as this shapes how you interact with others and can lead to deeper, more fruitful relationships. It also frees one from the expectations of others, allowing you to be your authentic self. "Truth never changes, only our awareness of it." Malcolm X ~
@@cindihunter9119 absolutely. I can do a longer interview on this topic alone. There is so much to dive into on spirituality, intuition, & letting go. I'm working on doing a documentary on my entire experience and stories that are unbelievable. It essentially revealed everything about myself and society and allowed me to tap into this frequency that most people ignore. A large number of people do not know themselves and that is what invites the fears, uncertainty, & ultimately results in guys like GC being able to shape and mold you into a character that you are not.
@@CultstoConsciousness absolutely. I appreciate you letting me share my story on your platform. I'm certain that something I said resonated with some folks. I already have had numerous people reach out and let me know that they got value from my testimony. Thank you
Most of us weren’t looking for any kind of guru. We were just living our lives. Not in a cult, never was. There are Front Groups for Scientology that have infiltrated every aspect of society. Narcanon, now being investigated in the UK. Scholastic programs. WISE. They bankrupted, then bought a Cult Awareness non-profit. They buy the favour of police and various municipal services. They intimidate, corrupt and infiltrate every organization that might benefit them. Even our own circle. They “befriend” much like groomers do. They use their millions to use the legal system as a weapon. And Grant Cardone is a good friend of the Leader of the GOP. He’s even donated to Scientology. Also, the Nation of Islam is affiliated with them. He gets kickbacks from them for every person the leader gets involved. Like a MLM.
@@TheMisguidedMentor Maybe keep in mind that Cardone is a friend of the Trump family. They donated to Scientology. Their tactics are the same that many politicians are using.
Just started but cardone is a scientologists. Aaron Smith-levin from growing up in Scientology has done many videos about Grant. Im sure Grant has learned a lot of the culty behaviors from scientology.
Exactly. The accountability is still there for me. I still need to call this out and share my experience. Blame is not the best word because it suggests shame but the fact is it's happening to successful people everywhere. Also, if all I did was blame myself, that would lead into a victim mentality.
Study narcissism and psychopathy, so you can SPOT these 'people...' from across the room. (There are those who remain 'blind' to the 'cult' societal, to personal 'programming...' and those of us who always KNEW something was seriously OFF with these perps! (I recall seeing the movie "They Live," in the early 1980s... and didn't GET what it was about, until later on. Those who are prone to so- called "codependency..." STILL have to deal with their narcy, etc. "family, of origin?" Or later go: "no contact?" (Or alternately: very 'limited,' contact??') This is precisely what the "elitists" worldwide, throughout history... have 'exploited' the remaining90% + with, BTW! (i.e. Governments, religions, the BAR, bankers, corporations, Medea, etc., etc.)
Blame doesn’t work well whichever way it’s directed. If we don’t discover the cause AND deal with our own shortcomings, that’s the problem. Remember Blame is something they used, so people involved were used to blaming themselves. Didn’t help them see the big picture. It’s slso what groomers do. So, if it’s in our culture to target vulnerabilities, those who are the most vulnerable WILL get targeted. We can’t condone it on any level.
Introvert with PTSD here. Best way to get me to walk away and never think about buying something again.... apply pressure. As soon as I feel pressure like that, I'm out. I HATE that sales people are taught to push like that.
I actually love a pushy salesman because I don’t bite on it and I love watching the frustration. I’ve had them cuss me out. I spent 2 hours on the phone with one recently trying to sell me a $12k mentorship program. I did all my chores while I drug him along. He even tried the tactic where they stop talking and let the awkward silence add pressure to me… I just stayed silent and loudly did my dishes in the sink. We didn’t speak for 10 minutes until he gave up on that tactic 😂 it was so fun
I'm dealing with this for buying my first car. Crazy! The middle men in retail are scammers 95% of the time. The only way to get a fair price is to manipulate the salesman, and finance manager. If you write a check at the end and they think you were going to finance it there is a 50/50 chance they kick you out. And if they don't they tell you to never come back.
Not according to predatory capitalism. It’s just getting started. Most people who use cannabis are using these techniques in their networks. MLM practices are the basis of it. And they seem to be encouraging Scientology to set up house nearby. They’re useful for money laundering.
I was a telemarketer in college. I always pisses off my managers because if someone wasn’t interested I told them to have a good day and took them off the list. Even though they got mad I still got telemarketer of the months. Few times and I was able to spend more time talking with people who were either interested or thinking about it. The ones who were thinking got their questions answered and some just took the number to call back when they made a decision, others made an appointment with the sales team. I never understood why we were supposed to push people who clearly were not interested in home improvements.
Because they push the Numbers Game. They’re not interested in any other effective tactics. Sounds like you practiced good sales. Not just a gambling mindset.
I have followed Grant for 7-years now, I’ve watched almost all his RU-vid videos for free and paid for Cardone University for 2-years. Absolutely loved his content and didn’t commit to buying anything more. At some point Accountability has to kick in, people are in control of what they purchase or commit to!
Right. Again, I take accountability. But taking accountability goes both ways and that means the person who manipulates others needs to be accountable as well. It's happens to the best people and you can do your own research on how someone can incept, deceive, and trick. But it's a real thing.
Yes he grabbed my email a long time ago and pitch me his newest master mind class every single time.. Watched enough of his videos and figured his tactics out. I am an insurance sales person for 18 years.. Think they could fool me with their paid for shit never me..
@@muncefiji yes we do. Just be careful because if you think that you are above being brain washed or manipulated, you'll go down a rabbit hole or already be in one and not even know it until you climb out.
I followed Grant some years ago, I purchased his socks and a hoodie. After those purchases his company called me to invest in Cardone Capitol. Being Retired military and learning how to read between the lines really fast I learned that Cardone Capitol is a fund used to raise money. This money is used to buy multifamily apartments so that he manages, promotes and maintains all for what it seems like a small amount but, actually while hes getting a couple million in management fees a year you're getting peanuts back because there's thousands of people investing. Basically you're investing/paying him to become a million dollar manager of a million dollar business created by you. It's a scam that you fell for. I seen how this guy drained a kids credit card trying to get a job at his company because this kid had a bill with him. He cares only about money and he chose to put a kid in debt, disrespect this kid and kick him out rather than turn this kid into a benefit to his company.
He creates private REITs but rather than you buying shares of it yourself in the open market he locks you in so he can continue investing. Not illegal but agressive.
I recently applied for Cardone Ventures as a accounting professional and I watched the video of a day in the life of the company and I was instantly turned off by their unrealistic happiness. It was so cult like and scary. They reached out a second time to try and set-up an interview. I replied no thanks with the picture of the cult lady Jennifer from Family Guy season 1 that tilts her head in the e-mail.
Hi Folks, i'm a taxi driver, and did my homework on Mr. Cardone, and I can safely say that something was off about this guy. I came to the conclusion to sit back, wait, and watch his victims eventually come out, and for a cab driver, I deserve an A+. Not bad. Not bad at all. =)
@@TheMisguidedMentoryou know something that’s kind of crazy… I drove my BEST FRIEND of 15 years off to an interview, for an editor, video person for Cardone, and he got the job, and stopped speaking to me and our other best friend, and for years it took me soooo much questioning of was it me? Was I a shitty friend to him? Until I finally concluded it had nothing to do with me. As far as I know, Jonny is still the camera 🎥 man
@@archieblanco2399 holy shit, that is crazy dude. That's that Scientology disconnection nonsense they teach. I've met Jonny several times and I believe he's even shot some of my testimonials. That's too bad. What's even crazier is that you took him to the interview, lol. Sounds like you were a great friend to me.
@@TheMisguidedMentor yea it’s super wild!! Anytime I came “home” from the army, he was always at the airport with my family. When I got out of the army, I got a severance pay, and his utilities were going to get cut off, and I picture text him front and back of my card so he could take care of it. Also spent 24k in 7 days on/with him. Definitely glad you knew who I was talking about, and happy you responded. You’re a bad ass, and hope all is well on your end 🫡
Unless we’re growing and producing everything we consume, there’s always a middleman. Consider that China is the middleman for most businesses in the world. Including Amazon.
I did the same, spent 300k, and in the end, when I needed the help. They did nothing to help me not to collapse. I almost had to close my business but they did not care about it at all.
I am 100%certain that AaronSmithLevin would loove to interview Ben! He really enjoys taunting cardone, because Aaron is an SP, so cardone can't even in any way acknowledge Aaron
@Darlene - an SP is a Suppressive Person which is anyone that pushes back against the teachings of Scientology. As soon as you question anything negative (aka seeing through the BS), you are now dead to them and are an SP.
Unfortunately with my lack of success and hard times I also went down the cardone rabbit holes. Luckily I was too broke to get that far in but definitely see how people do. I remember he was doing a cardone capital deal and had a elderly lady called in asking how much she should put in . He bluntly asked her how much you got. She explained all the money she had in different places and he straight up said all of it ! No conscious apt all. That made me feel bad for her and kinda woke me up. Also watching him on other people’s podcast when they questioned him hard questions he would be like a egotistical jerk and start bullying them . Always using his net worth as why he’s doing the right thing. I truly hope this gets out to everyone that has to get more Cardone. Thank you for your story and I hope to get to the spiritual level you are asap!
I'm sorry you got a taste of it. On the flip side, I'm happy you didn't get caught up in it any longer than you did. Yes, I have been saying that it's hard to know what the aggressive and self serving environment and energy is like until you experience it. Hopefully we can continue to bring awareness and save someone some heartache with our stories.
I just discovered this channel. Such great content! Thank you so much EDIT: You guys ask such great questions. I feel like I'm simultaneously watching a crash course on how to correctly interview people. You guys are pros at this!
I'm so glad you're talking about this. These financial cults are really dangerous and ruin lives. Dan Lok is another financial "guru" that comes to mind.
Yes I still have dozens of friends who remain involved with this community even though they’ve noticed red flags and are not in alignment with GC or what they promote. Dan Lok is definitely another great example of one of this as well
Thank you. Yes, there are some people who just won't wake up until they experience it. Hopefully one person here's this and pays attention to any bad feeling they get in this type of scenario.
I took a break from your channel after an episode just gutted me. You're doing such wonderful things on your channel and now I get to binge on episodes. Great job guys. I'm so happy you're tackling this genre.
@@TheMisguidedMentor I think that people should stop trying to emulate someone else’s pathway to success especially when that someone became successful in a different time era when the world was different. Most of those systems don’t work today because the world has changed & that’s why people should just focus on their own path. I’m sorry that I sounded harsh but I’m just tired of people believing in others more than they believe in themselves.
I agree with you about people doing thier own thing & looking inside themselves rather than chasing others for success and answers. Now that I’ve been through it, I can see why it happens to the best of people. Not knowing yourself, having just a little uncertainty, wanting to do more, etc. There’s so many reasons why it happens. Now I’m out here uplifting people the right way. They already have everything they need inside of them.
@@killingsley yes, which is why I can clearly see how I got sucked into that and why I also saw highly successful people drinking the kool-aid as well. One is things I encourage now is knowing yourself so that you don't model and mimic or adopt someone else's mindset.
Good point. One thing that I have called him and others out for is that they don't practice anything they preach. It's the whole "do as I say, not as I do" behavior
@@TheMisguidedMentor he didn’t know that though. He knows most are going to use a Master’s in Accounting to be stuck in an underpaid overworked accounting job. Instead of how he used his accounting degree
Krista Mashore associates with Grant Cardone, and this is her training to a "t". During her 3 day training, she gave very basic advice, brought in a lot of people who took her training to show "success", then said that we needed her to hold our hand in order to be successful because we can't do it on our own. Then brought out the $30,000 price tag. There were so many people struggling to even get their real estate business off the ground who were jumping at the opportunity to spend money they didn't have to join her "team".
Yes, it’s unfortunate that there are numerous people out here modeling & mimicking GC and his deceitful approach. It teaches them to chase peoples money instead of actually caring for people
I was in a real estate group for 5 years. The leader encouraged me to take classes at the Clearwater Mothership SCIENTOLOGY building and swore he was Not a scientologist. The Truth Is flipping real estate is hard. If you're really experienced it gets better, especially if you can do your own work. It takes a lot of money to do home projects, it's not cheap, materials alone. I've used many contractors. I'm still finishing projects 4 1/2 years later , struggling to do it alone and taking time to figure it out along the way. Yes, there's a payoff, but it's not how they portray it. It's so not.
@@porshamills4259, while greed sits in ppl, cults will flourish. Ppl believe they can get easy money if they pay these guys to do magic. There is no magic! Things have to be earned and deserved.
no idea how i found my way to this video... but wow!!! what a great interview! im familiar with cardone, not a fan though lol... but really glad for cardone to make me aware of this channel and ben john! thank you for sharing all of this! powerful! much love from germany! p.s. souls on the right mission - like all 3 of you - are the kind that give me most hope in this insane world these days!
I remember justifying my decision to postpone buying a house when I should have in small part on bad advice from Cardone. He advised to rent the space you live in and use the money you would use on a mortgage in the stock market. It seems obvious now that he wanted you to invest in HIS company and to keep as many people being rent cash cows as possible instead of building wealth tbrough home ownership. He's part of an elite that wants us being as financially dependent on the elite as possible for housing, etc.
Yes he promotes not to buy a house a creates a narrative to convince you of why he thinks it’s not a good idea. That just fits his agenda to have you invest with him, like you mentioned. It’s pretty obvious when you break it down.
I went to a Green Dentist in Clearwater, FL who harassed me for a year to return and get going on her $80,000 dental work plan and specifically told me not to choose buying a house instead of getting the work done . I bought a small house.
He has many good ideas … that’s how he became wealthy without having started with anything. He says you should invest in multi family housing … while buying a house is a sound move … it’s not a quick way to wealth it takes 30 years … he’s trying to make people rich … quickly. If you’re uncomfortable in investing and running your property … he has an investment vehicle in which you can give him money … like a REIT… that’s not a scam thought … you know what it is and you know that any investment vehicle comes with risk
@@TrollHunterxXx Then why was he literally in tears in a 2020 video, because everyone wanted their money back as this is how a ponzi works Read the contract as I can bet it doesn't favor the investor
He would never say buy stocks he would advise to use that money to buy multifamily real estate instead which is way smarter than buying yourself a house that isn’t going to produce any cashflow.
I can speak from experience. Grant is NOT the person you should be looking up to for advice. Extremely selfish, and only cares about revenue. No care for actually helping people. Copies Scientology exactly. I used to work for the company. I had to quit once I saw all the red flags.
Then you know. I remember your face. I’ve been following you for a minute on Instagram. You’ve always looked familiar, I just can’t remember if I met you at one of his events or not
A few years back I started a new job and I had a really off feeling about my boss. He suggested I read this book (the 10x rule by Cardone). As an avid reader, I read it in a few days. I was soooo turned off by Cardone and the messages in the book. I looked into him further and realized quickly he was a grifter. That sealed the deal in my knowing that leaving that job was the right choice. I feel like I really dodged a bullet.
@@cooper8318 have you read it? If so and you have to ask, we likely won't agree on this. The whole 10x idea is the definition of toxic hustle culture. Not a way I want to live.or view the world.
I always thought these Gurus that promise Wealth are preying on those who think the “ get rich quick schemes” could possibly work and soon find out these things do not work ! This World is full of Phoney people who know how to earn Cash from fools .
I may be poor but I'm not stupid. I've never seen so many people praise Grant "clown" Cardone as much as they do today. It's nuts just like a lot of people.
This is EXACTLY how they hook you in MLMs- call to action, personal connection aka they usually trauma dump, tell some deeply personal, traumatic story. Typically they like to pick one that will either touch or connect w/ something a lot of people can relate to in some way- like a loved one dying & they hook you & make you feel connected even via social media.
Haven't started, but I'm SO happy you're covering a business guru. They use such predatory practices to bring people who just want to find success in their business and make it seem like they have the only answer to all of their problems. Can't wait to listen
Well done, as always! I enjoyed hearing this perspective. I was apart of an insurance MLM years ago and there were so many things that he talked about that were regularly used to bring in “business”. After being apart of something like that for over a year, I can look back now and see all the red flags and they always pushed accountability. I’m 38 now and I’ve never been more depressed or hated myself more than when apart of that world. Business doesn’t need to involve self depreciation from others. Thanks for doing this interview. I watch everything you put out but this one really had me being able to relate.
I’m happy you related to this topic. It’s definitely something that I’m bringing light to, frequently, so that I can wake people up to what they may be involved in. It’s a very common scenario these days that needs talked about more
Yes! I've known about Cardone for awhile now... He's always pushed his status, on people! This has always rubbed me wrong, and I felt that his being unauthentic was his vibe- 😮
I used that explanation to describe how I was receiving a certain feeling to do something specific without communicating to anyone about it. You missed the point.
I have many thoughts on this one. First of all, I'm glad Ben got out of this scammy cult. BUT i have a few thoughts... First of all - we live in capitalism. Entrepreneurs are not there to "help" people and I'd like to argue that the current economical system we live in facilitate the kind of scams Cardone has set up. Entrepreneurs are.. Per se and in the capitalist system, always self serving. Second of all - and I say that with no judgement - i find the whole speaking to the dead, suddenly finding religion, seeing dreams and connections everywhere a little worrying. I wish all the best for Ben
Thanks for your feedback and thoughts. I'm here to change the self development industry in several different ways to encourage people to start caring for others and not serve themselves, chase money, or an outcome. Most operate this way, yes. But I don't and I'm here to change the standard. I also up against a giant battle to do that but my frequency and consistency will outframe that over time and uplift others to do the same. When I brought up my personal experiences, I never mentioned that I found religion and only mentioned my spiritual journey. I am not religious and it is important to distinguish the two from each other. People who have not experienced what I have will not get what I'm saying, and that's ok. I'm not here to convince but only share my experience. But I believe that if you can bring yourself to let go of 'everything' that you may hold onto, you most likely will have a similar moment like mine and when that happens it will be an undeniable feeling.
Humans are self serving by default. Like most things there are positives and negatives with this. Whether things are self serving or not is not the point but rather what the outcome is. Do you think a conservative rural farmer would grow vegetables that some liberal city hipster would eat because he likes to feed people? He does it for profit.
I did get some benefits from reading that 10X book. I think the key with these self help gurus is, it’s fine to read their books and take some of their advice, but don’t get sucked into the rabbit hole of any further services they offer without very careful, objective consideration.
Yes very similar. I actually feel bad about how I turned people onto Grant over the years. In that regard, it’s like I was recruiting without even knowing it. 🤦♂️
All I needed to know about self-help was when Dave Hollis died, all the fellow self-help scammers running to to take advantage of it. The worst had to be when it was announced he OD'd a sociopath who called him a friend made a whole post about you could have another glass of wine or you could take her course and change your life. There's a reason there's a direct pipeline between high control religions and this sort of bullshit, law of attraction, energy work all that
His message is so important to get out there. I wish there was someone to talk about the cult of trump, which reminds me so much of the callousness of some men, in their drive to attain money, no matter who gets hurt.
And apparently, you can’t question anything or the group piles on you. My brother has turned into a completely different person and not sure he realizes how many people have walked away. I heard a podcast that talks about how they are addicted to the rage.
1:04:50 I’m sorry cuz I did enjoy Ben’s interview, but people CAN and ARE making things like this up. Many books with stories about direct spiritual connections or “visions” that in the wrong hands (Lori daybell) of people with mental illness have led to some horrendous acts 💔hopefully he isn’t going to try to convince others they can have the SAME connection he has found…the talk of receiving “downloads” is concerning imho
It’s just the language that people aren’t comfy with because it can be weaponized against people. If someone said, “god told me to share my wealth” no one would bat an eye. Or “god put it on my heart…” or “my intuition led me to…”
I have nothing to gain by lying about any of this and you can see my journey that I document on my social media highlights, how Grant respond (or doesn't rather). You can also see my feed going all the way back when I was fully engrossed int the community up until I make the shift. My spiritual journey is my own just like anyone else's. I will be writing a book about it because there are several people who have witnessed the stories that I would never be able to make up. This is what pure authenticity, confidence, & passion looks and sounds like. I'm glad that you enjoyed the interview.
So good. I’ve been “whammied” so much in my life from growing up in the “Shiny Happy People” cult, “culty” manipulative relationships, and then working for a car dealership that engrained & REQUIRED Cardone cult teachings… so interesting to me how I was sucked into these cult-like relationships & businesses because of my programming/indoctrination as a child.
If you listen to my main points, particularly my last message. . . I encourage people to realize that they have everything they need inside of themselves & that they don't "need" to seek success in other people. I'm definitely not into cults. I respect your viewpoint.
@@nkdoherty I'm definitely not selling anything or promoting that. Also, people don't get rich from selling books from what I hear. I'm here to share a story, wake people up, and provoke positive thoughts
I know cults and MLM 'proxy cults' exist elsewhere but the overwhelming majority come out of the US. I would be really interested to know if you have explored why that is. What, do you believe, are the traits in the nation and its people that make it such a rich harvest of tortured souls? I am also genuinely curious why Americans, above most other nations, spend so much time navel gazing about ' who they are'. I don't mean that nastily, I'm genuinely interested in what is in the culture,or missing from it that leaves so many insecure about their 'id'.
The American dream is part of our mythology, the belief that we can better ourselves and not stay stuck in the class we were born in. This likely goes back to when our European ancestors left Britain to come here. Then the westward expansion added to the mystique. We have this vast land and opportunity, to a point anyhow, and you can theoretically be whatever you want. Just my opinion, and it doesn’t address the horrid oppression that went with all this. Not saying optimism is a bad thing, but we need to be realistic. Of course cults and superstition happens everywhere. 🎉
I don't know if the video is up. It was like a fireside chatt with Ed Myyet and Grant. And Ed looked irritated by Grant. And i think it was over strategy. And i think Ed Sinced Grant is not a Ethical person and hell do anything to be successful.
I'm a teeny tiny anti-mlm creator and Cardone is a hero in MLM and it's terrible. They coach to coach to coach and basically say you have to pay to play. It's disgusting especially as it is usually aimed at people already struggling. Looking at the bite model - it's all cult all the time!
Exactly. I've heard them all from Grant. "Those who pay, pay attention", You need to get in proximity", "You need to get in the right rooms", " Commit first, figure the rest out later" . . .It's all manipulative nonsense
It's actually not that simple and more complex. For me, it wasn't that. It was not knowing myself completely It was the fact that someone who claimed to be very successful came into my atmosphere saying things like. . . "You are not living your potential" "You are operating at low levels" "You are not doing enough" "You need to get in proximity" "Those who pay attention" Sayings like this get in your head and manipulate you to do things that you normally wouldn't.
This was a great interview. I can't help but think surely something is illegal there? I was especially upset hearing about the child indoctrination classes. Just the image of a kid pressing the correct, moral answer and having the computer say, "nope, try again". Very freakie!
Yes my daughter told me about that experience but did not tell me here experience at the time because I was so passionate about that process. So she kept it herself unfortunately.
Grant bought a mobile home park were I live, raised rent so high the old people on a monthly income had to move. They lived here for 20 yrs before he did this. Sad
When clubhouse first started. He scammed so many people. They had rooms full of people he stole money from and refused to return the money. He left CH eventually because people were exposing him.
Wait no more, lol. I talk about him frequently and loudly on my business pages. I have zero fear of him & have a purpose to wake others up with my experience. Everybody is scared of talking about him
HE said he made millions without being an entertainer, and would not let his wife take a nap, once bed is made. YIKES. Scammer and nasty drop the towel T Robbins. s.
What money? To invest? I personally have it from growing my first construction company. Yes, the numbers are close enough. Maybe not down to the penny but Boone cares about that
Love what you guys are doing with the channel. I have been interested in cult psychology for quite some time now. I am a brand new therapist now and I am always on the lookout for cult risks and group think errors my clients can sink into.
What I learned about Scientology is something long forgotten, but so important for perspective is that both LRon Hubbard and Jack Parsons did The Babalon Working sex magic ritual in the Mojave desert in 1946. LRH had already gotten involved in magic during his previous time in the Navy. He was a member of the OTO and practiced Aleister Crowley magic. He was not a good guy - very dark & sinister.
Right! Idolizing him like he can never do wrong and ignoring his obviously deceptive ways. I get it though. When I was hypnotized by him, you couldn’t convince me out of it either. So I do have compassion for those who defend him to no end
I'm concerned about the way he spoke about finding religion at the end. Like many drug addicts will 'quit' one drug by becoming addicted to another. I worry he's done the same thing. He even said in the beginning when he was with 10X that people would tell him he's in a cult and he would completely dismiss them. He just did the same thing about people who don't believe in God or a conscious higher power. He said he dismisses anyone who says otherwise or believes differently than he does.
Play it back. I never mentioned the word “religion” or “dismiss” at all. I think you heard something different than what I said. I said spiritual. Not religious
I resonated a lot with Grant ! But recently I watched an interview where he said we should not have our money in the bank , but when asked what is his plans to the future he said his goal is BECOME A BANK ??? 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️.. he brought up scientologist in the interview and low key made a propaganda to it .. and shared how he raised his daughters using a FREE class that you can find in the Scientology Website.. then he ridiculed the “class” he was born and raised in .. and called medium class Average/stupid people he doesnt want to hang around when 98 % of ppl that folllow him are medium class desperate to change their lives .I saw no empathy !!Something that make you go hummmmm🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@luaforte I’m glad that you were able to see through this obvious deception. When you pay close attention like you did, you can easily hear the inconsistencies and feel that his energy is very self centered. Hence, why I call them self serving entrepreneurs. Guys like him are programmed to help themselves and not others, unfortunately
I remember when a car salesman gave me a copy of Cardone's 10x CD set, I threw that stuff in the trash where it belongs. I genuinely feel sympathy for people who didn't see the problems right away, they already grew up with a disposition of shame or they wouldn't have found answers in a cult like atmosphere. I hope they learn they don't have to blame themselves for everything that goes wrong in their life, the saying that "everything happens for a reason" is toxic.
Glad you didn’t go down the 10x rabbit hole. There’s definitely truth in that statement being unhelpful. The better saying would be I found meaning or pulled a lesson from the experience
A lot of this language is borrowed from NLP and honestly that is a cult in and of itself. Yet at the same time, like anything, not every NLP "saying" is harmful because one of my favourites is a NLP saying: There is no failure, only feedback. And I have found it to be true that "only people who pay, pay attention" too (from running events that are free to paid). None-the-less, the NLP language again is problematic and can be bastardised by people because it's like a game of telephone.
I've bought plenty of programs that I didn't pay attention to. This mentality is mainly how people operate and only works because most people value money over everything, only do things for money, or don't think there's any value in anything unless it costs a lot. I'm trying to change that perspective but I realize that I'm up against a giant system that has been created for some time not. I'm here for the long haul and up for the task though.
Yup I always seen Cordóns Scam like Ways because I was a salesman for so long and he has scammer all over his face. The way he talks the way he treats his customers he expect people to give him millions of dollars blindly and he gets mad if they actually question him. What a scam..
‘FEAR of the organization coming after them!’ I still have friends doling out their money to repeat the courses…Not a religion…but a cult is a cult! I’m still not enlightened! Damn
Cult of capitalism This is touching on something fundamental in the collective. It requires some deep inner work to see the shadow that dwells with the self ego.
I’m sure his company has been booming just by virtue of the fact that glass conservatory construction is in HUGE demand. We’ve been trying to build one since 2022. All the pre-fab are sold-out since 2020 & for custom, you’re looking at major backlog on materials as well as super expensive labor costs in our region. He should link his business
I’ve done well for myself in the industry. I personally wouldn’t suggest a pre fab kit because the quality is usually not optimal. For an addition of that magnitude, you want high performance glass and components since it’s already spendy. If you are not able to easily climate control the addition, meaning it’s hot in the summer & cold in the winter, then it’s not quality materials. Just a heads up
Grant Cardone spoke at a realtors conference a few years ago. I didn’t drink the Kool-Aid. I found him very arrogant and full of himself. I’m sorry brother that you’ve had to go through this. I pray that God will recover and restore everything that you’ve lost keep moving forward.❤
