The Curse of Ascari - Italy's 70 year wait for a World Champion

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Italian drivers won two of the first three F1 World Championships, with Alberto Ascari becoming the first double World Champion, and baring comparison with Juan Manuel Fangio as the greatest driver of his generation. Ascari was incredibly superstitious and following his death, those superstitions seem to have become a curse on Italian drivers.

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@markko17 3 месяца назад

Mario was once asked about Italian fans and he said, "When I lose, they say I'm an American. When I win they say I'm Italian". So maybe in the minds of some Italian fans they have had an Italian champion. 😉

@WhenF1WasReal 2 месяца назад

In the same way that every Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish sports person becomes British when they start winning 😀

@johndonaldson3619 3 месяца назад

Great storytelling...thank you

@WhenF1WasReal 2 месяца назад

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it

@paulreilly3904 3 месяца назад

I notice you are fairly new, 2023, to RU-vid, at least on this channel. What a welcome addition. I'm fascinated by racing in these decades and you tell a good story, helping me to put things in order and fill in my many gaps. Great stuff. Thank you. 😁👍

@WhenF1WasReal 2 месяца назад

Thank you for you kind words - yes this is my first channel and I’m glad you’re enjoying it.

@cschnauz 3 месяца назад

Wonderful video, well done. However John surtees won the Belgian Grand Prix at spa in 1966 for Ferrari just before his fallout with the scuderia at Le Mans 2 weeks later

@WhenF1WasReal 2 месяца назад

Thank you for the correction - was so fixated on the fate of the Italian drivers that I forgot Surtees victory!

@cschnauz 2 месяца назад

@@WhenF1WasReal love what you’re doing!

@arneheeringa96 Месяц назад

Mike Hawthorne is reported to have said the tyres that day were terrible, because the tyres with the appropriate measures weren't available. Ascari wanted to try the car of Castelotti after his dive into the harbour at Monaco and lent his helmet and goggles. Then they heard some metally screamy noise at the far end of the circuit and people arriving said it looked awful. Probably a bit like Cevert I suppose.

@klaseronen7535 3 месяца назад

Luca Badoer should probably have been added to the list as well. He almost won his first (and only) championship points in a Minardi before the car gave up. His once-in-a-lifetime break came behind the wheel of a Ferrari, but it was a complete disaster. As a Finn we usually say "Feeling pity toward someone is to have a disease", however I felt truly bad for him, like so many other Italians, he should have deserved much better things. 🇫🇮

@WhenF1WasReal 2 месяца назад

I remember the poor guy in floods of tears at the Nurburgring when that Minardi failed on him. The opportunity at Ferrari was incredibly bad timing - years since his last race, in a car which was difficult to drive and with no testing time to get comfortable with it; he was setup to fail.

@marksulloway5669 3 месяца назад

Nicely done.

@WhenF1WasReal 2 месяца назад

Thanks!

@luuanlive 3 месяца назад

Also, keep in mind that after Ascari, the second greatest italian driver at Ferrari was Alboreto… yeah

@WhenF1WasReal 2 месяца назад

By opinion? Possibly, by results that’s Patrese. In the mid-80s with Patrese floundering at Alfa Romeo and Alboreto taking the fight to McLaren at Ferrari, you’d have never thought that was the case. His real downfall came when he refused to ditch his Marlboro sponsorship to retain his seat at Tyrrell, which turned out to be the wrong decision in every possible way

@luuanlive 2 месяца назад

@@WhenF1WasReal no i mean italian driver at Ferrari, Patrese did not drive for them.

@WhenF1WasReal 2 месяца назад

Sorry, misread your comment. Alboreto was indeed the second most successful Italian at Ferrari and, like Jean Alesi, is another who wasted their talent by choosing Ferrari over a better, but less emotive team

@luuanlive 2 месяца назад

@@WhenF1WasReal no problem man, also good point mentioning Alesi, i can only imagine how the F1 landscape could have been if he made the choice to go with Williams instead of Ferrari.

@aawwmm 2 месяца назад

"no italian on the grid" I mean yeah you are right but doesnt Kimi Antonelli have a drive for 2025 at Mercedes? A team some journalists tip for a 2026 world championship because they apparently have the best engine. They also are the works team so they have massive advantage over the customer merc teams when it comes to engine design and integration with the car (gonna be a massive problem for mclaren kinda like 2014).

@WhenF1WasReal 2 месяца назад

Yep, you'll see I reference Antonelli at the end of the video, as he's the most obvious candidate to break the curse, especially if Mercedes pull out something special for 2026

@kurtisduke2685 3 месяца назад

Ascari is not an f1 world champion there was no f1 in 1952 and 1953 it was formula 2 competition for those seasons

@WhenF1WasReal 2 месяца назад

Technically correct, however it was the F1 World Championship run to F2 regulations, so…

@ThePanzafahra 2 месяца назад

It wasn't called "Formula One World Championship" until 1981, before that it was simply called the "World Drivers' Championship" and happened to be run to Formula 1 regulations for every year except 1952 and 1953, leading to Formula 1 and the World Drivers' Championship being used synonymously

@WhenF1WasReal 2 месяца назад

Like I said, you are technically correct, however Formula One itself calls Ascari a two-time F1 World Champion. www.formula1.com/en/drivers/hall-of-fame/Alberto_Ascari.html

@ThePanzafahra 2 месяца назад

Oh yeah, totally agree. I was making the point that it doesn't really matter to go into the smallest detail that "ackshually the WDC was run to F2 regs in 52 and 53" because the term for the series since 1981 *is* "Formula One"