"The Daddy of Dark Souls" - the final King's Field... 20 years later 

Edgy andrea

Where "stutter" joke comes from? I've heard it from one of DarkMatter2525's videos. 🤣

@@YavNe Just a common joke I think.

@@YavNe I think it’s a Reddit joke

@@angelo.strand It's been around WAY longer than Reddit

That's what I was thinking. xD

“Hammers all of them at once”

Visionary smithing technique

My headcanon was that the blacksmith is an interdimensional being capable of existing and interacting with infinite copies of himself. It still takes him 5 or so minutes to repair the gear but with such powers he's capable of stacking his work indefinitely

No cap, this made me laugh bro

Maybe ThePruld could make a proper Italian translation of the game, with plenty of memes no doubt.

The german translation is also incredibly bad. But i think the english translation in the PAL version takes the cake here. I'll just say this: "the sick babes" I find it weird that the PAL version has its own (and much worse) english translation whereas the US NTSC version has a much better one. Why they refused to just use the US translation for the PAL version is beyond me.

@@thombias OH yes, I remember playing the game and reading a scripture on a wall that talked about the "Babes of darkness". That's one of the best mistranslations ever

Cazzo non lo sapevo

@TheFallenRuler Really I didn't know, that's interesting. But even in context saying the babies of darkness is weird. Cause it clearly refers to the dark folk, and in the ntsc they translated that weird sentence about babes of darkness into children of darkness. It's definitely a mistranslation, I mean the pal version even translated "healing water" by "healing H20"

At first I thought it would be a Demon Souls level of remake but ut ended up looking barely different. The biggest pro is that it doesn't run like ass.

@@antonioklaic4839 it actually runs worse than PTDE due to poorly used post processing filters, which also made the lighting look like shit. literally the only place it performs better, is before qualags fog door since now it dosent freeze the game to pass over the invisible line that loads her.

@@FingerinUrDaughter idk on my PC it runs better. PTDE ran poorly without DSFix

@@antonioklaic4839 dsfix dosent help performance aside from a few specific areas. its main purpose is unlocking the games resolution.

I think it be fun to see remastered The Ancient City as a VR game.

He's just too shy to ask you to stay

mechanically it's probably some weird memory or software limitation that at the time caused them to just fix all of them the way the inventory was handled. Things like that happened a lot in games of that era and we don't even realize what they are unless somebody really looks at the code or dev's tell us.

@@Quandry1 nah, it's more likely that the dev team considered waiting for hours unacceptable and decided that the blacksmith should fix items in parallel, as an in game timer would not be able to be updated when the game's not running on PS2

Official lore.

"wait, player-kun, y-your sword won't be ready for... uh... 5 minutes"

He once noticed that the items were fixed after hammering for 5 minutes. Since then he only does that to help track the time

He's actually just dropshipping orders from Lordran.

He gets his little elves to fix them as he rests, hence the number of items doesnt matter ;)

My head cannon is that he secretly has like 1000 other dwarfs to share the load with, but youll never find them

😑...🤔...😔

there's a subreddit for this kinda thing, something about "tip of my tongue" if i'm not mistaken, and they actually helped me, within a day, find my first ever childhood game i was trying to remember for like 12 years LOL. i just wrote down anything i could remember (even though some of it turned out to be wrong lol) and unexpectedly it worked! the game is Knights of The Temple: Infernal Crusade btw, i still think it's pretty damn solid lol

@@_JoeVer Thanks or the heads up! There is actually a music video from around 1999 or 2000 that I've been trying to find for a few years.

@@faultyinterface ooh, goodluck! i recall they have a guide on how to format the posts, too, so check that out before you ask, and hope you find it!

I had a very similar experience with a different game. It was "Heroes of Might and Magic: Quest for the Dragon Bone Staff." A brutally hard grid-based strategy game. Now I can play both it and King's Field on an emulator.

Why did you stutter?

I feel like everyone would just call it "an elder scrolls clone"

@@brianfischer5609 Then that would be so stupid considering how a large percentage of fantasy games in the 90s PLAYED like Elder Scrolls.

@@brianfischer5609 what made the first Elder Scrolls unique was an open world beyond dungeons with side quests, this style of game on the other hand is a pure Dungeon Crawler which is alot different than what elder scrolls is today.

try lunacid

They made Deracine so why not?

rather than expressly different timelines, he puts the gear in a super position where they are in all states at once and then extracts teh desired material?

He's actually A quantum assassin who kills the alternate timeline version of you who never used the weapon you gave him. the second it has been handed to him he begins to move out of sync with our perceived reality and kills the parallel you who is always surprise by his movements due to the fact the version of you he erases was more pacifistic that you, otherwise how could they obtain a sword in pristine condition. for every world that you have died to the trap in the start of the game there are infinite worlds branching off in which you still died or lived, but only one world where you obtain the fixed tool from the quantum blacksmith.

The blacksmith being weird is a given since he is a dwarf. Dwarves in norse myth are incredibly weird to the point where some can bend space and time in ways the major gods and goddesses can't comprehend.

Damn, we got some amazing fan lore put together here. Now I want a game where that is actually official lore.

what

Yeeeeeeeep.

Wait seriously

Copy-pasting fits its identity tho: a Ninja Gaiden clone that serves as a fail safe for Demon's Souls

I was about to say. I even played that nonsense and got scarred with the whole "cutting everything around with this glowy sword" cutscene

Mega lore, it’s the same universe

They date back to tabletop RPGs

I remember them in Wolfenstein 3D so, yeah, they are old. I could probably still get the machine gun in the first level, that is hidden behind a fake wall.

how bout the very first zelda :P u blew up walls with a bomb and sometimes ud find a secret entrance

@@agenerichuman iirc in 1e D&D Elves actually had a chance to sense secret doors upon entering a room.

I was thinking the same thing, secret walls and hidden trap doors are nothing new to dungeon crawlers, or video games in general. There were games on the Atari, Amstrad, Amiga, Commodore 64 and Spectrum ZX2 that had secret walls. Additionally, the game is a dungeon crawler, it is not a metroidvania. The two sub-genres share similarities, but so do many other sub-genres, but that doesn't change it from being anything but a dungeon crawler. But that kind of goes for a lot of things he talks about in the video, talking as if King's Field had all these new and unique things others hadn't, when all King's Field is is another first person dungeon crawler, just like Wizardry, Dungeon Hack, Elminage... heck, they still make them now, with games like Mary Skelter, Barony, Shin Megami Tensei, Demon Gaze, New Tokyo Legacy, the list goes on. There are only two unique things about King's Field, one is that it's made by FromSoft, and the second is that the first King's Field had no loading screen on the PS1, which was a technical marvel at the time, until Legacy Of Kain: Soul Reaver came out a few years later and did it better by being an enormous 3D open-world metroidvania. Now I enjoy the video, it's entertaining content and very informative and fun to watch, but the constant gushing over FromSoft as if they're the inventors of all these things that had already been done and copied multiple times before just comes off as serious fanboyism.

Ngl that's hot

unlike in gotham

"Hey boy give me some love down there" "Of course baby you are so hot OMG what the fuck why is there a skeleton with a sword down here aaaAAHHRRGHHHHHHH

@@hjubris OH FUCK OH NO OH FUCK OH WHY!!!!

@@kroyakra6272 OH NO OH GOD

Yeah definitely thought of that when he brought up that area. Same feeling of progression while looking around.

The whole returning to the central tower temple thing is super prevalent in both

Yeah...i kinda always considered shulva as what izalith should had been, just without lava.. they obviously had underground stone city ideas even before.

I remember reading somewhere that Tanimura (DS2 director) is a big King's Field fan so it makes sense. The illusory walls in DS2 also work like they do in King's Field where you have to mash A to find them

DS2 feels more inspired by King's Field than even Dark Souls does. This is why I see Dark Souls 2 as its own spinoff. I want a Dark Souls II.2 tbh.

My guess is that the idol was some kind of "sponge" for darkness which kept the dark one from leaving the holy land.

Kalameet isn't. He's clearly visually inspired by Guyra, but Guyra and Seath are rivals which doesn't seem to be the case with Kalameet.

I think the demon boss at 15:05 is the inspiration for ceaseless discharge

kalasneed

Moonlight sword came from berserk

So in a way, Kings Field the Ancient City has lived on...I can finally let it rest now. Ive returned to the Ancient City many times in m life, but I can move on. : )

Yes,heck even DeS in the first place was supposed to be a reboot for King's Field and Sekiro was supposed to be a new Tenchu game.Now we're still waiting for a new or at least a successor for Armored Core.

"just how much they take from and build on their old games" They are called From Software.

Definitely agree man, seeing how many ideas from Kings Field were later refined for the Souls series really gives you a sense of continuity with From. Like, there modern games would never have been amazing as they are without these clunky Kings Field games laying down the blueprint.

It's interesting that there are still some people that worked for FromSoft all this time are still active, like Tsukasa Saitoh was a sound designer and music composer since the late 90's for the company, he basically experienced the dawn of From Software.

Geoff?

@@depalodor That’s pines irl name

Jeff?

They’re called short people sir. So disrespectful smh

@@rampageblizzard Midge.

and 1 or 2 Ilusionary roof I think... other reason to love this game

Verticality!

It's funny how these returned all these years later for Elden Ring.

@@unbearable505 ikr

@@unbearable505 there's illusionary floors in elden ring?

I'll go ahead and make a prediction that after Elden Ring we'll see a 1st person FS game. Either that or Sekiro 2. Remember this tweet.

Like skyrim with guns, I mean skyrim with the dark souls formula, sounds nice actually, but i prefer 3rd person personally

thought about that but i kinda like seeing my characters armor and panning the camera

@@kiberme tweet? Someone's been spending to much time on Twitter.

@@kiberme THIS AINT TWITTER

It would be even better if it gave you back the idol though. (picks up coin and scoffs) "and they said it would only bring me ruin"

I tried killing the merchant but he respawns so idk if you can do this

@@hesiolite He does? Well shit, I didn't know that. Does every merchant respawn? If so, I might have just bamboozled everyone.

@@nikitas1841 I'm not sure every merchant respawns tho. I only played the beginning of the game and killed the merchant at the village to see what happens and he respawned after five minutes, and when you talk to him afterwards he often says something along the lines of "What?, you look like you've seen a ghost" But then I played the PAL version idk if it's the same as in the NTSC version

I can confirm that the developers made the first merchant in Kings Field The Ancient City respawnable, no matter how many times you kill him he returns. ALSO if you sell an item that is required to beat the game to a different merchant and kill them, return to the first merchant (David Bunch) and he will have the item needed in his selling inventory!

My thoughts exactly. Morgan Freeman level of energy.

So OoC for Vaati, but I love it. It's weirdly cathartic like hearing someone innocent drop an F-bomb 😂

"You looked like you might not be a moron, but that was just a trick of the light."

i cant believe that he A. typed that and B. pineapple called him out for it

*Majula Theme intensifies*

To be fair starting a souls game without any experience playing souls or without any map exploration is daunting as hell

Those people are casuals who never actually beat the game. They looked up the solution to puzzles and say they actually beat it.

@@funkymachine I can't believe people are still talking like this, there's no point in being elitist over what someone did with the product they bought for their own enjoyment. This isn't about cheating in multiplayer or abusing mechanics, looking up where to go is just a point in the right direction so they don't stumble around blindly for hours.

@@atticuskoch2965 if elitism is so bad, defend afk taunters tounge. Looking up where to go or how to win is definitely NOT intended.

@@funkymachine I don't mind that as long as it isn't used in pvp, but again, I'm not talking about exploits, I'm talking about getting lost and looking up directions

games dont have soul like they used to. even ER and sekiro are both great games on their own but theyre missing the uniqueness and otherwordly atmosphere that DeS or DaS had.

@@_dibbs eh, I dunno. Doom 2016, Elden Ring, Rain World, Factorio, Noita... Tons of modern games have oodles of soul.

@@_dibbs thats just your nostalgia talkin. ER had many very unique otherwordly areas, like visiting caelid for the first time, or the gorgeous water temple area in sekiro with the snake women that had their singing constantly echoing in the background

I do not need my swords runny in the middle thank-you 😁

Some damn fast boiling eggs you got there.

he boils the swords, i see

One might say he has multiple swords in the fire

Animation ain't cheap, got to shake that money maker.

@@greenhowie true true

Yes, indeed

The "T" stands for "Time Travel"

You also have to say: "yah"

Huh funny, that explains my kid coming home and talking to me about Todd Howards conquest of Rome

Holy crap, it worked!

yoooo I feel validated

All the KF games are incredible. You have to emu the first one but it’s worth it. Along with Shadow Tower and its sequel Abyss (which also requires emu)

Considering they remastered Dark Souls then released the Demon’s Souls remake just a few years later (granted, the legwork was done by Bluepoint) it’s not unrealistic to think they might revisit the franchise someday. They’re clearly open to both making new IPs or one-offs (Bloodborne, Sekiro, and now Elden Ring) and revisiting old ones alike.

@@Duplicitousthoughtformentity well, QLOC remastered dark souls, not FromSoft. I don't think FromSoft will ever remaster or remake a game themselves, but they probably will continue to give other companies permission to remaster or remake for them.

If you have to overcome major gameplay hinderamces like cluky combat, and sluggish movement the game is bad. No matter how much you drool over anything fromsoft does, it still a shitty game

And the best goddamn soundtrack of any Fromsoft series. Unless you want to count Evergrace. Really, anything Kota Hoshino touches turns into gold sound-wise.

@@thealliedpowers i can hear the Raven's Nest theme in my head right now.

It's so niche they probably won't make another. *Sad raven noises*

Oh boy can't wait to play it and have no fucking idea what the hell just happened until I watch three hours of lore videos on youtube

@@thealliedpowers Best soundtrack of anything period, I can hear the full ost of any AC after 3 any day without getting tired.

I was thinking the same thing! If it's intentional, that's really cool

The whole thing feels like it inspired DS2.

@@Gabu_ even the giants have face holes

Yeah kings field 4 inspired ds2 super heavily

Any similar feeling you get is extremely likely since FromSoftware officially considers the Souls games "spiritual successors" to King's Field.

i think like 5 people would buy it then everyone else would ignore or hate it lol

​@@PongoDaMan One of his more recent vids covers the game, but Lunacid is pogging up in that category.

@@greysonmiller9407 Lunacid is SO good

I’ll second that. The music stays the same, but the gameplay is much nicer.

how does one do this?

I agree that the idea itself especially storrytellingwise is pretty cool but me having recently finished it I found the end to be a bit anticlimatic lol

So King Allant was a King's Field reference all along

@@DankbeastPaul It looks like the true King Allant is inspired by this idea from Kings Field.

I guess you never played Demon's Souls. :'D

Yeah the boss itfelf its pretty weak but the walk to him(or her, to me it looked more like a woman) its awful, and getting swarmed by these cristal fuckers and dragons makes it an annoying as heck fight

Same here.... after i instaled Skyrim for first time i was like wtf is this hack and slash combat and wtf is this spreadsheet inventory how is this an RPG :D

@@liberatusblair Perfect rpg inventory was already known for long time every good rpg had it, from Fallout 1&2 , DIablo to WOW and many others. I dont know why they tried to reinvnet circle, my guess is they didnt want to cr8 icon for every item in game ect. You can twist it however you want but its shit inventory and lazy work....

@@orchoose fallout 1 did NOT have a good inv system lol, and it especially wouldn't work in a game like Skyrim.

@@ritenger87 You dont know what are you talking about. Why wouldnt it work?? Its the same inv. every other rpg had. So it works in every other game but it would not work in skyrim... yea right. Stop apologizing Bathesda's lazy work with your poor excuses.

@@orchoose but fallout 1 and 2 do have a terrible inventory system, and its pretty similar to the inventory in skyrim

Ay yo, do you spoke Italian?

@@riks081 yess ahah i was quoting one of the most memed line of the opening cutscenes

ODDIO MI HAI RISVEGLIATO RICORDI CHE NON SAPEVO DI AVERE ANCORA

There's not even one sign of "I make-a a spicy meatball" so that's how I know it's a bad Italian translation

Haha grande

clearly he's the dwarf skeleton smith from DS1, I forget his name currently.

@@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves I believe it's Vamos

@@kioskthewarlord9590 yes, thank you! Which kinda makes this exchange funnier. His name means "Go" in Spanish. SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

Smithing around at the speed of sound

@@youssefbarj9770 high speed**

It's why I kind of wish Fromsoft didn't sit on Tsukasa Saitoh. The Gundyr theme is so dark and evil and sounds so awesome and its the only song they gave him in DS3. Then Yuka Kitamura shows up and just takes over and like she's great and all, but she can't capture darkness. Not like Saitoh can. Listen to the way the Gundyr theme ends. Like I killed him first time down to the wire right as that song was ending and I was clenching my teeth the whole time. It was Cleric Beast through and through. He knows dread, and the beauty of knowing we all have a dark fate waiting for us and that it speaks to us in so many ways, sometimes even beautiful ones... he conveys this so well in his music, and I wish Miyazaki and Kitamura could break up already and let the old team back in.

@@Krystalmyth I think Saitoh is a wholly underrated composer and his work in Bloodborne especially was legendary, but Yuta Kitamura was a perfect choice for DS3. Dark Souls isn’t all about doom and gloom and she knows that. She is a master of capturing the stoic tragedy and epicness of the souls games in a way no other Fromsoft composer has. Her work on tracks like Twin Princes and Midir almost made me cry the first time I heard them lol. That isn’t even mentioning her work in Sekiro and oh my lord, the Divine Dragon OST is something else.

@@Odinsday I just think after giving her almost all of DS3, all of Sekiro and now all of Elden Ring, favoratism is at play. She's amazing. But she just can't be all things. Imo, when you're dealing with talent at this level, it's impossible for me to imagine either of them couldn't have excelled at the job, but we only get to have one according to Miyazaki when the osts used to be such versatile casts until she arrived...

@@Krystalmyth I guess you have a point. Still, if we are talking about unused talent, Shunsuke Kida from Demon’s Souls is a prime example of that. Demon’s Souls still has the most unorthodox soundtrack Fromsoft has ever done and it is one of my favorites because of that. Astraea’s theme and False King Allant in particular are brilliant.

@@Odinsday I'd love for all of them to get a shot. Bloodborne was only made better by the use of many composers. The trick is that Tsukasa Saitoh was the lead of the project so he was able to keep all the talent focused. Kitamura was supposed to do that in DS3, and ended up just taking over... and has taken over since. We need more of that multi-talented pool that Fromsoft has, or a big essence of their soul will be gone. Tsukasa Saitoh still works at Fromsoft, he did sound effects for Sekiro.... sound effects !

that is so badass.

How good of a speed run is it? Any fun tech or good decision trees?

@@idlemindedmage6925 kf4 has no glitches but the run itself is interesting. It’s my least fave. I think KF2u (3J) is the most fun. It has glitches and there’s a lot of different ways to do the run. Also has more categories. 1j is still being explored. 2j is a hard run but the shortest. Also has not much wiggle room for creativity. But uses a glitch! An out-of-bounds. That’s sort of my POV. As far as my recommendations. I’d say the enjoyment of the speedrun, in order; it goes: 2u(3j) , 1j, 1u(2j), then 4 aka Ancient City. Casually; Ancient City is the most enjoyable 😅😅 there’s a lot.

“Say you have no life without saying you have no life”

@@shadymcnasty5920 if only you knew

how do you speedrun a game thats literally in slow motion?

if Miyazaki is the one preventing the dev for overwelming the games with traps, let him .

First game I ever found a secret room in a secret room is kings field 2

I'd imagine that's true of any 'auteur' video game director. When a director is a real creative force and deeply passionate about what they do, it's very easy to give them all the credit when their job is guiding the overall development.

I think it says a lot about how perfect of a fit Miyazaki is at From. He wasn't employed there until a few years after this last King's Field game came out, the landscape of game development overall had changed, with games being much more focused on polish/realism, giving players what they want rather than giving them a unique experience, and while Demon's Souls was in development at the time, it was considered a failure until Miyazaki took the reigns. I don't ever remember the King's Field games being popular, and based on the content shown here I can see why lol, but it definitely has the same kind of "fuck it, were gonna do what we want" spirit that Miyazaki brought to Demon's Souls

It's always been stupid to attribute the entire development of a game to one person.

DS2 borrows a lot from this one, that's one of the reasons I adore DS2 so much despite the flaws.

@@nikitas1841 DS2 Is closer to King's Field than DSS, DS1, or DS3 ever was IMO.

@@nikitas1841 appropriate since 2 is the loneliest of the games.

@@nikitas1841 oh my goodness, I've had this thought that dark souls 2 was in the same world as kf:tac. Like the boss souls look like forest dew which is used to acivate a golem, while souls are used to activate golems in DS2. The basic structure of dranglaic castle is very similar to the one shown at the end of kf. A door in DS2 says "produce the symbol of the king" there's another door in KF that says "you are not kingly" you open it with the ring of wisdom (it belonged to the king) These are just the ones off the top of my head, but I remember I had more.

Throne of Want?

The one that summons mega ultra chicken?

@@zubbworks No, the seal of Orichalcos is from Atlanteans and their form of shadow duels. Mega UltRA Chicken is Egyptian folklore pirated by a wealthy children’s card game developer

@@malikoniousjoe The only thing that really matters. Children's card games.

@@zubbworks Soon to be on motorized vehicles

@@malikoniousjoe That's a stupid gimmic and everyone knows it. (Havn't watched past the one with jaden in it. I do know about the duels on bikes for whatever reason.)

Little late on my part, but there's a whole ton of King's Field references in DS2. The skeleton bell ringer in this video, the magic flask grenade item in DS2 references Seath's Fountain from KF1, Mirrah itself is alluded to be the same island of Melanat from KF1, the Watchdragon Parma is a direct visual reference to Seath and Guyra, DS2's Gyrm warriors use a helmet very similar to the golems in KF4, and the list really just goes on.

@@RekkinOnTheInternet the real moon light greatsword, which is thinner than the Ds1/Bloodborne counterpart, also looks like the one from KF4

😂😂😂

VERy niche reference you got there sir.

Goku's Ahhs and Running in the 90s

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

H-He's fast!

Please

yeeeeees I'd also mention Hungry Ghosts but language barrier is a problem

Yeeeeess

Why, so he can call it another metroidvania? It's a dungeon crawler and From has been making the best examples of this genre for a long time.

@@shards-of-glass-man huh one I haven't heard of wild

This is literally how Dragonbreaks/ retcpns work in the Elder Scrolls series.

@Aaron Eckhart from In the Company of Men ^ seems like a fun person

Also wanted to say I love that for the ad you didn't even say anything false about the product. I've heard middling reviews for that game, but you didn't come on saying THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER AND I REALLY ENJOYED MY TIME WITH DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS SHADOW LEGENDS, you just showed some silly footage, even that it might be too easy, and that it was 'fun for button mashing/killing goblins'. Great great great ethos.

Giant dad in fnf could be great

@@enolagayiniwan913 i would rather drag my nuts across hot coal mixed with glass shards than ever see that idea come to fruition

swag

Pretty good

Can’t complain

good

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