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@carlrood4457
@carlrood4457 2 года назад
Dance of the Dragons seems to be based on The Anarchy. Henry I named his daughter, Mathilda, as heir. Her cousin, Stephen usurped her and they went to war. Mathilda did manage to take over for a short time, but Stephen took back the throne and held it until he died. However, his heir ended up being Mathilda's son Henry II. Viserys = Henry I Rhaeynera = Mathilda Aegon II = Stephen Aegon III = Henry II
@kaelahoran214
@kaelahoran214 2 года назад
GRRM might have been influenced by Matilda. Empress Matilda of Germany and the Holy Romain Empire, thru marriage, she was an English Princess, was promised the throne by her father the King. King Henry's heir and son died, he tried to have another son when he remarried but did not so Matilda was named as his heir. He had his Barrons swear an oath to uphold his wishes. Her cousin Stephen of Blois challenged her claim to the throne. King Henry was his uncle and he was a trusted figure at court. On the grounds of primogeniture it should have been his older brother but he had the backing of the church. The two sides go to war when the king dies and Stephen sails to England and assumes power. Matilda did gain power but was never coronated so she is not typically recognized as an English "Queen". The matter was finally settled and her son Henry inherited the throne, becoming the first Plantagenet King.
@Ssatran
@Ssatran 2 года назад
I have been listening to IDG for years now and this may be the very best live stream yet. Thank you, Robert, for all you do for us.
@roddammit5510
@roddammit5510 2 года назад
Thank you for all you do for the fandom! The gold standard
@The.Nasty.
@The.Nasty. 2 года назад
You spoil me with this good content, sir. Much appreciated.
@yeahman181
@yeahman181 2 года назад
Hey robert another great stream! Just wanted to let you know you tend to lower the volume of your voice a lot at the end of your sentences (which is fine) but your mic seems to be having trouble picking it up a lot and I can't hear the end of your sentences sometimes. Maybe you changed some audio settings recently because I don't remember this always being a problem. Just letting you know! Keep up the good work!
@Tronic21
@Tronic21 2 года назад
Thanks for answering my semi-ridiculous dragon dream questions!!!
@darinstrohmenger4451
@darinstrohmenger4451 2 года назад
I'd really love to see a video on why Arigorn didn't use the dead army to destroy all of mordor's forces before releasing them. Huge fan of you, but saw a video recently about the dead army and want more content!
@josiahdavistv1216
@josiahdavistv1216 2 года назад
Speaking on how female targaryens never got the throne there also no mad female targaryens either
@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989
@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989 2 года назад
No mad female Targaryens in the books yet ;)
@constantinetranos2225
@constantinetranos2225 2 года назад
@@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989 In the books Cersie is ( fittingly) the Mad Queen, Daenery's inner dragon being awaken doesn't translate into Mad Queen in the books, but rather becoming like a traditional fire and blood Targaryen.
@constantinetranos2225
@constantinetranos2225 2 года назад
Their was one female Targaryen ( I can't remember her name) which got crazy and got suicide...
@josiahdavistv1216
@josiahdavistv1216 2 года назад
@@constantinetranos2225 her name was helaena and she wasn't crazy she just killed her self she was depressed because she had to choose which child to kill and her family was still at war that a lot for anybody
@QueenDaenerysTargaryen
@QueenDaenerysTargaryen 2 года назад
Fire and blood🔥 🐉
@welshhammer1733
@welshhammer1733 2 года назад
Hi robert i keep losing the volume when you speak lower, is it me or have you a gate or compression thats to harsh? keep up the good work.
@Djynni
@Djynni 2 года назад
It's not you, I just made a comment on this also.
@rapflapfl
@rapflapfl 2 года назад
Yeah, its not you
@philippomozokpia
@philippomozokpia Год назад
2:50:00 the way i read f and b the targaryens didnt build dragonstone. the valyrian outpost at dragonstone had been there a long time before the Targaryens moved there. Therefore seems very possible that cannibal was born long before their arrival.
@kaelahoran214
@kaelahoran214 2 года назад
Sorry can't remember if this was discussed in the books but why didn't rhaenyra targaryen marry her half brother after Laenor dies? I know theres a big age difference. I just can't help but think something could have been worked out. Was their too much animosity by this point and the illegitimacy of her sons/ succession the problem.
@joemckeown4612
@joemckeown4612 2 года назад
I’ve always thought this too. As far as I have gathered the animosity between the greens and blacks had already become quite problematic, so bad that marrying her son to the ‘enemy’ was inconceivable to Alicent Hightower🤷🏻‍♂️
@taliavelazquez358
@taliavelazquez358 2 года назад
Alicent suggested it before she married Laenor but Viserys said no because he knew what Alicent wanted.
@Djynni
@Djynni 2 года назад
Hi Robert, I don't know if you watch your shows back (even skip through them to check the video quality), but last recorded livestream (with GirlNextGondor), your voice kept fluctuating in volume to the point where it became hard to hear you. Just now at about 3:01 your voice volume got SO low that I had to reply to figure out what you said. And I don't keep my volume very quiet. Just FYI. I don't see Robert interact with the RU-vid comments so I don't know if he'll see this. Can someone like a moderator let him know about the sound issue? Thank you.
@aarondemiri486
@aarondemiri486 2 года назад
would love to see your ranking of the Targaryen kings
@Rahim.ali80
@Rahim.ali80 2 года назад
Great 👍video Robert, I always wonder why no one give King Maegar his props yes he did own & earn his name "the cruel" but without him the Targaryen dynasty would have never been by killing all those people. He was a kin slayer by killing Aegon, Aenys son & he took his niece as a wife she was more like a hostage but his actions before his death(murder?) kept the Targaryen line alive although the Targaryen kings from Jaehaerys to Aerys 2 came from Aenys lineage. We might turn our nose up at Maegar but he did keep the Targaryen line alive & going for 3 centuries.
@thetalesofelbek7042
@thetalesofelbek7042 2 года назад
The Strong bastards were from Harwyn not Larys.
@kaelahoran214
@kaelahoran214 2 года назад
Lots of blame to go around but I blame Viserys Targaryen he should have known they would not uphold his wishes and war would be inevitable
@victoriagill1588
@victoriagill1588 2 года назад
A big question... For some reason I have missed reading Fire and Blood. Do I read it before or after the show? 🤔🤔
@Darth_Bateman
@Darth_Bateman 2 года назад
Before.
@Djynni
@Djynni 2 года назад
Nettles: Jon Snow doesn't look Valyrian either.
@realdaggerman105
@realdaggerman105 2 года назад
Neither does Baelor ‘breakspear’ or his heirs, or Rhaegar’s daughter.
@richardtate8621
@richardtate8621 Год назад
About 12:30 you said they were Larys Strongs children but I believe it was Harwin believed to be the bastards father. I’ve been wrestling with the idea that Rhenyeras eldest son is actually Crispin Coles son Harwin and Cole have such similar characteristics it’s hard to tell
@richardtate8621
@richardtate8621 Год назад
Do you know if there’s any inference that Jace is Coles seed!?
@justinhale5142
@justinhale5142 2 года назад
I love @indeepgeek but I think he has never been so wrong about something. Daemon Targaryen lived I think almost for sure. It was left to open for it to be that clean cut in G.R.R.M's world in my opinion. What do you guys think?
@josiahdavistv1216
@josiahdavistv1216 2 года назад
I have theory on how the Targs control dragon Is because they use magic back in old valria the 40 dragon lord family's like the targeryen the did somthing to them self to magical bond with dragon they bred with them and use magic ect so now the magic to bound with them is just genetically inside of them
@joemckeown4612
@joemckeown4612 2 года назад
Grey Area
@josiahdavistv1216
@josiahdavistv1216 2 года назад
@@joemckeown4612 what
@alguemalguem
@alguemalguem 2 года назад
Hey Robert, minor correction. You occasionally mention that the rumored father of Rhaenyra's children as a Kingsguard. Harwin Strong was never Kingsguard, he was just her sword shield, akin to the Hound being Joffrey's sword shield at the start of aGoT.
@Djynni
@Djynni 2 года назад
Season 1 shouldn't end before the first dragon battle - to give people a taste of that.
@thehiddenone8892
@thehiddenone8892 Год назад
It was Harwin Strong not Larys
@roentgen571
@roentgen571 2 года назад
Didn't Illyrio say that Dani's eggs came from Asshai?
@jgrayson1940
@jgrayson1940 2 года назад
I dont trust pretty much anything Illyrio says to Dany
@josiahdavistv1216
@josiahdavistv1216 2 года назад
Daenerys dragons eggs are from the dragon dream fyre there the eggs ellisa farmers stole and sold to over and over for centuries cus they never hatch and then they conveniently got to Daenerys
@dellavonta187
@dellavonta187 4 месяца назад
Cole and mushroom wtf where that come from lol
@thtkidfrmvab
@thtkidfrmvab 2 года назад
So handsome
@Darth_Bateman
@Darth_Bateman 2 года назад
3 words : Hard Hugh Hammer.
@SHARKVADERS
@SHARKVADERS 2 года назад
IDG !!!!!!!
@pratts2041
@pratts2041 2 года назад
the position of your mic needs to be changed. please ;)
@thetalesofelbek7042
@thetalesofelbek7042 2 года назад
Why Jon has to be a savior everywhere ? It’s Dany who is going to slay Euron.
@constantinetranos2225
@constantinetranos2225 2 года назад
I hope so...If Euron stealks Vicerion, Daenerys will have a a grudge on him, Jon doesn't have anything personal on Euron. Don't worry, Martin doesn't overestimate Jon's heroism, he is kinda darker in the books than in the show where he is stupid and stoic.
@ianvera4299
@ianvera4299 2 года назад
Slay? lol
@SmileHeartXD
@SmileHeartXD Год назад
:D
@Djynni
@Djynni 2 года назад
People are willing to give Starks power because they know the Starks won't abuse it.
@thetalesofelbek7042
@thetalesofelbek7042 2 года назад
Who were willing to give ? Who people ? Reread Fire and blood please. Starks could not and can’t control the 7 kingdoms.
@ianvera4299
@ianvera4299 2 года назад
@@thetalesofelbek7042 Yet the targaryens destroyed themselves. Reread fire and blood, the targaryens will be destroyed again. Starks will rule in the end, get over it;)
@thetalesofelbek7042
@thetalesofelbek7042 2 года назад
@@ianvera4299 only Targ can beat Targ no one else. Baratheons are Targaryens. I don’t know how Rhys will the kingdom , no evidence yet.
@ianvera4299
@ianvera4299 2 года назад
@@thetalesofelbek7042 Ser Dunk literally beat a targaryen. Get over yourself lol
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