The Dangerous Future for HVAC Techs 

You are right on point. Leaking is the issue and yet they are producing micro channel coils and or low quality brazing.

It’s all for money. The idea it helps the atmosphere is just to make it look good but at the end of the day it’s for money

Just look at the huge push by the refrigerant producers such as Honeywell, Chemours and others..spending millions lobbying for newer expensive refrigerants and you see a major reason for the mandates. Like generic drugs there is little money to be made with older refrigerants even if they are not banned

Good talk. It is good to ask who will use these new refrigerants in the field and who will be held responsible. The government is more concerned with talking to large companies and planning how they will look good internationally.

The reasoning behind the change to R-410A was to eliminate ODP. The first refrigerants to be eliminated were CFCs. They did not break down in the atmosphere for very long periods. R-22 is an HCFC. It was left in place longer as it did not last as long in the atmosphere as the CFCs. It was all about ODP. R-410A has no Chlorine, so no ODP. When R-410A came in, I was worried about leaks due to the high pressure. However, the increased leak problems really did not appear. Not thrilled about R-410A due to moisture problems and fractionation, but it was always a changeover refrigerant. My father was in refrigeration from the 1930s. What I learned from his and my experience is everything gets more complicated. If you don't want to change, get out of the business. Not trying to tear you down, just putting in my 2 cents. GFM

R-410-A was known to have a higher GWP than R-22 from the very beginning. Funny it only became an issue until after the patent ran out. As always, it's always about the money.

I’m 70 I remember when one of the major requirements of a refrigerant was that it was NonfFammable. I was pushing efficient equipment long before others I believe that a portion of the new requirements is profit driven. The overall “global warming” from R-410a would be negligible because of the relative small amounts in use.

Im right there with ya. The government should stay out of our trades.

R22 best freon period.

Just starting to learn and apply the meager skills I am developing. Thanks for being there as one of the resources I can turn to and learn.

My believes are in the future they’ll add a software key that locks out all techs that are not on the manufacture’s payroll. In other words you have to be employed with that manufacture or you can’t diagnose the system.

Interesting things happening with the trade.. but also we have some way cool tools that we didn’t haven when I got started!!

They should use service valves with a longer copper tail not a coupling on the condenser, so that you can use a pro press instead of soldering. Or even a flare connection. I don't like brazing next to a closed service valve full of propane.

I work on r290 all the time this a2l bullshit is just another pressure in my gauges. Resi guys will treat it like r22 when the phased it out and use 410 phase down as a selling point like 410a is illegal now, like they say for 22 now.

I recently had to go to an A2L training put on by our local supplier, he said that the problem with the hole in the ozone layer and R22 was not caused by the HVAC industry, but the fact that large roofing companies would spray hundreds of pounds of R22 when they were doing hot tar roofing. They would use it to cool down the tar after they applied it.

I’ve gotten blocked from several different things from saying what I thought about the new refrigerant changes. They’ve blocked my comments, deleted my comments, etc. on mini especially Esco on RU-vid and TikTok.

I'm currently side job bobby 😢trying to get my own thing started

The way i see it is that helps the industry overall. Companies can now sell at same margins and make more cash.

I’m thinking there should be an ignition source available if there is a leak.. when she leaks it will auto ignite and cauterize the leak. In all honesty I was use to mint chocolate chip, then I switched to strawberry and apparently I will be enjoying rocky road next

Thanks for saying what those of us that stay up with the DOE/ EPA regs see what really is occurring. Unintended consequences always seems to occur with gov't mandates.

That is the purpose of bureaucracy. People who know nothing about something telling those who do on how to do it.

It’s a money hack I believe. I’ve been around for quite a few phase outs and my father as well. Who knows we will never know for sure.

Why not use air to water heat pump outdoor unit and use cold water as the heat transfer medium? That way all the refrigerant is outside the building and its no problem using low cost flammable refrigerant like propane? Can also be reversed to run in heat mode easily?

Zach: The Tradesmen's Alex Jones. I mean who doesn't love random disingenuous anti-government spiel with their morning coffee.

its not the government. its the corporations that lobby for self profiting reasons. same reasoning in almost all industries. dont get lost in the blue or red koolaid. its all about who makes and pays the most money

I wish to be excluded from the giveaway. I'm just an average homeowner with my two cents. A few years ago I saw a video where a refrigerator exploded in someone's home. My guess is it had a combustible refrigerant. What if, say, a pin blows out on a unit's compressor that has combustible refrigerant? Could that mean I need to call 911 instead of a repairman?

R32 is hard to ignite and has been used in Europe and Asian countries for decades. Rest of the world went straight to R32 decades ago, we went the 410A route instead. Though I get the concern of more explosive kind of refrigerants.

Great point! We also put gasoline in our cars.. that is so much more flammable. And a lot of old campers with ac had r600

Great thoughts … reality is big corporations steer if not control government decisions.

I honestly think if they really care about the planet they’ll build a good quality equipment like before period and they won’t switch to this shity alum or micro channel coil

I think government should stay out of our trade. They need to consult the technician in the field before changing refrigerate.

There's a bunch of videos of refrigerators exploding.

I agree. Good take. ✌️

They’re not gonna be lower they say they’re the same pressure. Similar pressures they said?😳🧐🧐🧐🧐

Am I mistaken but wasn't it the US Air Force using R-12 as a cleaner on engines that caused a lot of the issues

Who is John Gault?

I really hope Diakin steps up with theses fit systems and what they trying to do installed a few. Idk what’s going to happen I’m gonna adapt and overcome. Buy new stuff whatever it takes. It’s the revolution of how the universe is adjusting to newer technologies I believe.

Don’t worry we’re the government we are here to help . Hahaha Appearances and money is all it’s about.

Why are the new regulations enforced by geographical location and not for everyone why enforced in the areas of a more hotter region where air conditioners are sold more and not a all in for everyone if it is that important it seems kind of biased to me

Unfortunately, there's more truth to what you're saying, that what we're being told. Follow the money trail. Right?

I love the smell of R22 in the morning. Smells like money.

It's a money grabber this new refr8gerant sadly they were gonna stop brazing period and make every technician but 2grand propress tool I won't do it I don't have the money to get it then they said just make sure your flowing nitrogen when you are brazing idk anymore 😐

NOT IN THE TRADE BUT JUST AS A HOMEOWNER THAT HAS HAD MULTIPLE LEAKING EVAPORATOR COILS INSIDE MY HOME I AM NOT HAPPY ABOUT HVAC PERIOD. I HAVE SINCE MOVED TO WINDOW UNITS AND A GAS FURNACE. AT LEAST THESE ARE RELIABLE AND LESS LIKELY TO EXPLODE I FEEL. THANKS FOR YOUR VIDEO ZACK.

Their going to put flammable refrigerants in equipment. No problem. I have natural gas lines running to all the appliances in my house. I drive a vehicle with high pressure explosive cylinders on it. I drive a vehicle with a huge tank of gasoline strapped to the underside. . Explosive refrigerants. Might just make the job a little more exciting. Cant wait to hear the stores from other techs how they lost most of their eye brows and beards.

I feel like you should have critically thought about your argument regarding the government not concerned about the technicians safety. If only there was a branch of the government that regulated occupational safeties and hazards, and it was like an administration or something? Techs were crying about systems were going to blow up in their face because of the insane operating pressures of 410. Perhaps you should have mentioned the fact that the vast majority of companies will convert to some form of RLS because insurance is going to skyrocket for having torches on the van. The insurance companies are the most freaked out about it. A2L’s are new to the US. Euro-Asia has used them with great success and lack of units exploding for more than 20 years………

Government: making new libertarians each day.

Whose the winner gonna be? I hope it's me

We're disposable.

We have been using flammable and natural refrigerants for some time. If we do our jobs correctly, no problem. Just like all trades, take pride in your work, and you'll have no issues.

Its all about money. No doubt.

Watching out for the small guy!! 😲😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😆😆Riiiiiigggghhhtt! Lol

Zack, I like you I hope I can still call you a friend but you’re wrong. The chemical company’s can make the same amount of money with old refrigerants. It’s a hassle to everyone changing refrigerants. Your video just encourages people not to use good recovery practices. I think you should ask a chemical engineer to come in, I don’t think you’re an expert in the speed of a leak. No higher pressure than what we’re using now, and there the flame is almost identical we use now. Please stay out of politics. ❤️

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