The Dark Knight Director Christopher Nolan Hated Todd Philips Ideas for Character

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Joker: Folie à Deux is an American musical psychological thriller film directed by Todd Phillips from a screenplay co-written with Scott Silver. The sequel to Joker (2019), loosely based on DC Comics characters, Joaquin Phoenix reprises his role as the Joker, with Lady Gaga joining the cast as his love interest, Harley Quinn. Zazie Beetz also reprises her role from the previous film, while Brendan Gleeson and Catherine Keener also join the cast. It is produced by Warner Bros. Pictures and DC Studios in association with Joint Effort.
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@chasehedges6775 11 часов назад

Christopher Nolan is a legend and The Dark Knight is still fantastic and a masterpiece. RIP HEATH

@Jose-ze8xz 10 часов назад

RIP to the GOAT.

@Oldschool1943 9 часов назад

yeah but it also created this make up joker trend bcuz heath didn't want to touch what jack nicholson did and admitted that he would never live up to that, he said it in an interview.

@Oldschool1943 9 часов назад

every since ledger introduce make up joker this trash "joker" movie piggy back from that alfred in the comics put on makeup to become joker it started a whole trend that lessen joker's tragic backstory but simply now by putting on makeup to become joker and it's garbage! it cheapin the character bcuz everybody chase the trend that's the only bad thing that came from out of ledger's joker.

@chasehedges6775 8 часов назад

@@Oldschool1943 Good point

@barbara_briar 7 часов назад

@@chasehedges6775i love nolan...but the trilogy batman is not masterpiece...lmao

@nazeirsvibingandstuff769 11 часов назад

To be honest this feels like a disrespect to heath ledger death and I'm glad that Christopher hated it same way as we hated this movie.

@intothezombieapocalypse 9 часов назад

how is it disrespectful?

@punkybrewster7599 9 часов назад

@@intothezombieapocalypsebecause he attached a legendary character to his garbage movie.

@intothezombieapocalypse 8 часов назад

@@punkybrewster7599 lmao no he didnt. Thats not Heath Ledger's version of Joker lol. These are clearly 2 different universes. 1) That "joker" at the end of the movie would be still too old to be Heath's version. Bruce is still a kid in this movie and like 20 years away from being Batman. This character is too old. 2) Harvey Dent would now have two different origin stories on becoming Two-Face lol. Cant happen. you are absolutely incorrect.

@summertyme5748 8 часов назад

"because he attached a legendary character to his garbage movie." That's exactly what he was going for. Zombie: All your denial comments are disclaimers. "the names are changed to protect the innocent, and also to prevent me from being sued". lol. That's what you are saying.

@nazeirsvibingandstuff769 8 часов назад

To be honest the sequel feels more like a satirical joke towards the fan base

@everettlloyd3385 11 часов назад

The 1st Joker should have been a walk off, now this one was a money grab.

@brotherlittlefoot2216 10 часов назад

2nd Joker,but yeah.

@KRSBOOM 7 часов назад

@@brotherlittlefoot2216one off

@Oldschool1943 4 часа назад

both 1 & 2 is a "money grab" shit had nothing to do with joker.

@vincentlospinuso7232 2 часа назад

I think you could’ve done a lot with Joker 2

@nunouno001 10 часов назад

Christopher Nolan was the one who said Superman killing Zod in Man of Steel was a bad idea and they shouldn’t do it; but Zack Snyder ignored him and did it anyway. Imagine where the DCEU would be if they listened to him.

@jokester3076 9 часов назад

That scene didn’t bother me, because Superman was in an extreme extenuating circumstance that required immediate lethal force to save innocent lives. the Johnathan Kent in man of steel as played by Kevin Costner is kind of at odds with his comic counterpart, he wanted Clark to keep his secret even if it meant letting others die which is kind of selfish.

@Chronic41745 8 часов назад

@@jokester3076 yeah but he could’ve sent zod to the phantom zone not killed him

@yipersnaperify 7 часов назад

Get over it. That was the best Superman movie. So, he killed him to save lives.

@Chronic41745 7 часов назад

@@yipersnaperify worst movie ever

@Sigmundfrued 7 часов назад

That was a great decision

@insidious_topo3940 11 часов назад

Hopefully, Gunns Superman movie is MUCH better than Joker 2 🤞

@Url_Seth 9 часов назад

There’s no doubt it will

@theoutlawking9123 4 часа назад

Making something better than a Damn Musical, ain't Exactly hard.

@chasehedges6775 11 часов назад

Joker 2019 was awesome. What a disaster.

@Oldschool1943 4 часа назад

joker 2019 is a boring overrated fan fiction that had nothing to do with the actual DC character joker.

@assassinsknight 10 часов назад

I don’t think anyone that payed attention thought it was in continuity with the Dark Knight Trilogy for obvious reasons.

@exileduniverse 9 часов назад

rip heath

@stephenbrame3042 5 часов назад

Arthur doesn't carve a smile into his face. The inmate who kills him does.

@superheroesmadness135 11 часов назад

The first joker film was mid at best so I don’t blame him

@chasehedges6775 11 часов назад

Jaoquin Phoenix was amazing tho and his performance was fantastic

@superheroesmadness135 11 часов назад

@@chasehedges6775 i wouldent go that far lol

@seanharris3126 7 часов назад

There was no need for this movie

@DarcyCliffing 11 часов назад

Folie a Deux is the Last Jedi of superhero movies

@eianblosch3341 Час назад

nah it's like the Fan4stic (2015) of superhero movies

@justincartledge111 11 часов назад

Did Batman fans forget Jack Nicholson play him to

@khizeryusufzai2185 11 часов назад

Love that version

@GTheoryTV 10 часов назад

Not ones old enough to remember how epic it was and Bat-Mania across the nation. Great times!

@brotherlittlefoot2216 10 часов назад

Jack was the OG Joker. Heath did an amazing job,though; took a super villain and made him completely believable.

@justincartledge111 10 часов назад

@@brotherlittlefoot2216 he did good but Bane was so much better in the dark knight rises he made Batman lose all of his money and broke his back and trap the cops underground for three months

@brotherlittlefoot2216 9 часов назад

@@justincartledge111 I like Hardy,but can't agree w you on that one. That's not really believable.

@eianblosch3341 Час назад

The way that ending was it's literally comparable to someone doing something they were asked not to do and do it anyway just to deliberately piss people off

@soldierofgod7412 3 часа назад

Outta everyone Christopher Nolan can talk he’s a legend over at DC comics.

@robertcoggeshall3071 11 часов назад

2 movies, and neither about the actual Joker.

@eianblosch3341 Час назад

I love the first Joker movie so just so Joker 2 doesn't ruin that movie for me, in my mind Joker 2 doesn't exist. The fact that Todd Phillips said Arthur Fleck isn't the REAL joker....well then WTF WAS THE POINT OF THESE 2 MOVIES THEN WTFFFFFFFFF?!!?!?!!?!?!?!!

@summertyme5748 8 часов назад

This is another example of new writers trying to subtlety shiite on their predecessor's work. Happens over and over because writers are competitive. It's why Rian Johnson killed Snoke, and then JJ brought back Palpatine. It's why Michael Waldron had Wanda trash the illuminati, the illuminati trash Thanos, and then he himself trashed Wanda. "Haha. All those characters and stories are shix now, and the MCU belongs to me!" At a subliminal level, this is how they think! Nolan: "Please don't try to imply that your film is a prequel to Dark Knight!" Phillips: "Yeah, fk Dark Knight, I don't want to be unfavorably compared to that thank you!"

@cutthecheck 7 часов назад

CBC creator Armin also hated Todd Phillips ideas for character

@Oldschool1943 3 часа назад

he's a hypocrite

@broncosstampede494 10 часов назад

His Batman Movie Won An Oscar.. Enough Said

@dragonnet289 11 часов назад

Sorry Christopher Nolan don't own the character of joker just as James Mangold with Logan. There can be different interpretations of the characters

@chasehedges6775 11 часов назад

True. Joker 2019 was awesome and Joaquin was amazing but the sequel was GARBAGE.

@chasehedges6775 11 часов назад

Christopher Nolan isn’t wrong in the slightest tho.

@stevekurth3957 9 часов назад

It's not about different versions of a character...it's about whether a thing is stupid or not

@AnotherSWnerd Час назад

In the dark knight im pretty sure joker says it was his father who gave him the scars so it truly makes this little tie in even worse.

@Jose-ze8xz 10 часов назад

Right there with you Nolan,I would have honestly loved a Heath ledger Joker origin film though.

@Darkest-Day-1 6 часов назад

In my opinion, christopher nolan is a perfect example of a man of his word. If I was working on dc live action movies. I would Take his input Seriously. That's for sure. This movie Disrespected heath Ledger's joker in my opinion.

@tabkg5802 5 часов назад

If Nolan had any more influence over Joker ending than it explains literally everything wrong with Joker 2. Ending scene always was in a bit of a contrast with the movie itself, ending shows us the closest we got to "Joker" while movie itself was largely about "Arthur". Now that Nolan isn't there instead of Joker sequel we got Arthur sequel which explains the character regression

@Oldschool1943 4 часа назад

Arthur is a made up movie character that's equivalent to patience Phillps neither are from the source material

@tabkg5802 3 часа назад

@@Oldschool1943 I know which is why I separate him for the actual Joker. He acts nothing like Joker which goes in contrast to how the ending of the first movie implied that all of the movie was a ploy by *the* Joker because that's what he does

@Brotherofthe4thCompany 6 часов назад

I’ve always considered The Dark Knight overrated. But I feel like if I watched both Joker movies, it would make me appreciate the former. Either way, I respect Christopher Nolan more than Todd Phillips. It’s like comparing Johnny Rotten to Zach de la Rocha.

@DarthCoco 9 часов назад

Yeah, I already got the impressions before that Chris Nolan has been a signal present to save Studios from potentially poor performing content lol. Frankly WB's fallout with him over his firm opinion to still release TENET in July 2020, is where I admire his decision to depart ways. Yet I do feel it somewhat acts as a disadvantage between all threee sides i.e. Nolan, WB, and a project in development, now that creative advice from him, can be less practically passed through on a WB and DC Project such as Joker 2, when the finished product just maybe could have been more acceptable/credible in alliance with the first film.

@Laufield 11 часов назад

If Christopher Nolan director Joker 2, that would great

@AlternateMichael 8 часов назад

Yesh obviously Todd had the right idea for the first film but man did he just completely forget and lose it with the 2nd. Now you have to stop the franchise after failing so miserably. This completely took the Joker franchise off the board from Elsworld and really will have nothing to do with the DCU at all unlike The Batman I predicted the film would do 700 or 800m not 1 billion like the first film but doing worse than Madame Web and The Marvels, flopping this hard is crazyyyy. Still can't believe it, I really thought WB had 2 hits in Fall with Beetlejuice 2 and Joker 2 on their deck but turns out it's just the 1 (Beetlejuice 2) 😅

@featherguardian6023 10 часов назад

While Nolan is Underrated, I can Respect Him and this is one of the few things I agree with.

@ethankillion786 9 часов назад

Warner Bros should have listened to Christopher Nolan

@Oldschool1943 9 часов назад

i mean all Todd Philips did was copied the aspects from Christopher Nolan's Reimagining of batman mythos that revived batman movie ip after that terrible batman and robin nearly a decade prior. however it was nolan that introduced make up joker in the first place but what gave nolan a pass is that it was a new concept that we haven't explored with the characters. todd phillips tried to ride off of the make up joker trend without having the characteristics of joker for his movie. joker movies is overrated fan film from day one, at least with chris nolan he made it known since the first movie that it wasn't going to be faithful to the source material we was excited what he was going to do with batman for this new untap direction that he was going to do with his trilogy. Barbara Jean Gordon (nolanverse) is jim gordon's wife in the dark knight movie it was acceptable bcuz where batman ip was at, at the time; which was a very dark place WBD had no faith on batman and gave up on it it's the reason why they agreed to give nolan full control of the trilogy. so to go back to joker movie (joker in name only) Joaquin Phoenix admitted that he wanted to be in the same light as heath ledger when he took that award even if the character isn't even joker: bcuz the shit was not a reinvention and anything of the sorts, it's the primary reason why i'm extremely harsh bcuz they classified those joker movies as the actual origins so i expect for it to follow the source material bcuz we have comics that explore that which the movies did not do but not only that he doesn't look like joker, didn't act like joker, didn't sound like joker hell he doesn't even have joker's equips and weapons the whole backstory copied from Gacy and Joaquin Phoenix's "Joker" even have the same makeup design as Gacy

@Robi-kc3xg 10 часов назад

IT IS NOT that complicated or SERIOUS! Arthur Fleck is not The Joker and at the end there is a NEW THE JOKER Heath version, Jack version or Jared version . In comics, there are multiple The Joker so The Joker 2 ending is only following the comic book storyline.

@BayHarbo 9 часов назад

No it’s not, that is not at all how that storyline goes. Also just because it happened in the comics doesn’t mean it should happen in the comics.

@conradfrancis3174 10 часов назад

Saw the film yesterday it was hard to watch

@noiisserpmii 11 часов назад

I think the first movie is great but its a glorified love letter to Martin Scorcesse with DC properties.

@edgarleon4688 3 часа назад

LEAVE THE MUSICALS IN FILMS FOR BROADWAY!!!

@earth6161 2 часа назад

How can you not listen to Nolan 😂😂😂 fools

@mylifecomesfirst1403 11 часов назад

Bruh that’s crazy thooo 🤦‍♂️🤣🤣

@simonakoumoufouda502 24 минуты назад

His Legend

@libertas_americana 6 часов назад

What was the point of this movie? To demoralize the people who liked the first movie. They were the wrong people to like the movie for the wrong reasons and Hollywood couldn’t take it.

@simonakoumoufouda502 25 минут назад

Multiverse madness 😂

@jfhaze 10 часов назад

Who cares that wasn't even supposed to be heath ledgers joker it's not the same universe

@simonakoumoufouda502 27 минут назад

Dead in water

@TGOSE-v7y 11 часов назад

WHAT!?

@GTheoryTV 10 часов назад

Worst......movie......ever.

@sinont7051 7 часов назад

I'm not much about cancel culture but if I was Todd Philips would be on the list. So disrespectful to Heath Ledger!

@boombasett6038 9 часов назад

HE IS ONE TO Talk ! his trilogy is so overrated. I couldn't even finish the 3rd film. HE IS A HACk

@thunderpantz 5 часов назад

He won a Best Director Oscar recently. Sit down.

@billymoore7182 11 часов назад

What a disgrace. Heath Ledger is and always will be the best live action Joker. No one is beating him.

@Chronic41745 8 часов назад

Bullshit

@LinkMaster5555 10 часов назад

JOKEr is nothing compared to Ledgers

@notmephisto1375 11 часов назад

I found the third act reveal that Joker had accumulated a small fortune through Bitcoin mining to come completely out of left field, but the more I think about it the more I like it.