The Dark Side of Caravaggio 

Being a great artist sadly has nothing to do with being a good person. Caravaggio was a murderer and most likely a narcissistic sociopath. He killed a man for getting a recognition for nearly mastering his painting technique. And for what he did to revolutionize Christian art I’m sure he was well protected by the churches since they had so much more power and influence during his time.

This painting makes me want to cry. Its almost like he recognized that someone elses words were coming from his mouth. Like our words are so important in order to connect with each other and who we are.

The ArtHoles podcast has an entire series dedicated to Caravaggio and it is absolutely worth a listen if you’re an art history nerd.

I heard towards the end of his life he was exiled from a city, he got in a fight and murdered someone with sword. People speculate that it has something to do with him getting lead poisoning and sort of losing his mind due to handling and mixing the paints which contained lead.

This ties into something I’ve been thinking of a lot recently. I think who you are as a person will inevitably seep into your art. This often results in negative personality traits like a bigoted or violent worldview showing. But, those aren’t always the traits that show up. For Example, H P Lovecraft was *horribly* racist, even more so than was normal for the time period. I won’t write here what he named his cat. People often refer to this in relation to his horror stories depicting “cursed bloodlines”. He was talking about interracial people, case closed. But… it’s worth noting that both of his parents literally went mad when he was young. He wrote in letters throughout his life that he was afraid of the same happening to him. This fear of his own bloodline cursing him might be what he was drawing on. I don’t know for a fact, he may well have just been making a racist allegory. I think it was a combination of the two. But it’s something to consider. Does the way that Lovecraft bigotries may not have been the only thing shown in his work really relate to your video about how Carvaggio’s violence did seep into his work? Yeah not really. I’ve just been thinking about it recently.

Separating the artist from the artist IN MY EYES works only if the artist is dead If they're still alive and being a horrible human, then dont support them

Beautiful painting God Bless

I could never do a painting like this, I'd eventually lose the plot after the paint covered the sketch and give up in the part where it doesn't look great but will eventually look better after some more refined painting

Loved watching this painting unfold

Art can be separate from the artist. Unless you cannot appreciate something until you know who created it, which is highly unlikely. That knowledge adds a layer absolutely but isn't necessary to appreciate or enjoy the work.

Great painting and a nice, deep insight. Good job!

Dude lost most of his family to the plague when he was little and lived in a world where life was cheap. Dude saw some brutal stuff

When I look around the internet and see artists I just see family friendly. And yet all the artists we love weren't family friendly. Why is that?

Artemisia Gentileschi>>>>

If you don't separate the art from the artist, then you won't be able to watch practically any Hollywood movie.

People don’t want to hear the bad things cause most people’s capacity for pain and suffering amounts to zero. It is why most people will never be remembered.

Yes, artists who prevail are often ruthless.

Reminder for everyone, seperation of art from artist is a way of looking at a piece of art while ignoring what the artist said about said art, it's not ignoring the fact the art was made by a terrible person

Love this painting!

We must separate the art from the artists or else live blind and deaf.

100% am I able to separate the art from the artist

Keeps rainin outside

Anytime you hear someone refer to seeing or believing someone to be dark (or whatever other negative title), they will also reveal the fact that they believe this not be so, because they do not understand them. When the reality of who someone is, has zero to do with another. Especially if and when they've been made privy to or just happen to experience their nature (that which they possess) first hand. Most don't even understand themselves, so how would it be possible to understand that which is uncommon/unfamiliar in another?!?

Good to see Caravaggio get some recognition these days.

Become a mass murderer or a painter. He danced on the edge of that choice.

I think I’m on the other half of that line. I love knowing who artists are. I love the darkness that a lot of them face and though my heart breaks that they have that darkness festering inside them, I feel that’s what makes such a great artist. It’s the uniqueness that also lives inside of that person that allows them to express their soul through their chosen medium. I feel you can’t really truly know art or appreciate art unless you know those who have created it because the art you are analyzing isn’t just. A bunch of paint stones, a lump of flat formed into something, mixed medias mashed together but it’s a story… a story spoken without words but with emotion, with silence, with imagination and with soul, darkness or even light. I don’t want bland art… I want art with feeling and passion and that comes from experience in opinion.

Surely cursed spirits cant use domain expansion, mahitos silly ass:

Why?

I think he's doing better now that he's on What we do in the Shadows! 😂

Nice painting . Caravaggio was a great painter and I like the dark and realistic style of his work. He wasn't my favorite artist but I do like a couple of his paintings. I don't care what he did in life , but most collect painters who did have a strange history because it gives collectors something to talk about while entertaining buyers and those who come to the villa for tea , like the rich and educated . Not the stupid and judgmental.

Looking at you Picasso...

Uneventful lives do not create the artists that create the art that gets talked about.

You didn't say anything about the substance of Caravaggio's life.

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I love art. I hate art. It is mostly evil

Dw that dude is just using his domain expansion.

Great artists sometime ruin their art because of their bad personality. Like salvador dali did but not many are aware of his post ww2 art

This painting and it's almost like keeping someone's name in your mouth or keeping them in your mouth more by like you're talkin about talkin about them all the time

I found it! The painting. Hey man, I think I might accidentally stolen your painting and I'm sorry. I have a drawing on my sketchbook that resembles heavily this one. At the time, I knew that I'd seen the drawing somewhere but I didn’t remember. Sorry bro 😭

Most likely the lead paint... cause it tastes good/sweet without the knowledge that it was toxic.

Artist always tell stories through there art. Always.

Faut pas être très net! L horreur

It’s a no brainer. No connection. No care should be given. Otherwise you’ll end up tearing down statues or burning books.

People that saw this post on Pinterest before seeing the video 👇

He never mention what was dark

Purging the identity.

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Could you get such art without the possibility of horrors within people?

You can’t be a great artist of any kind if your life is uneventful.

…so it’s half finished

EVERYBODY has some monster in them. If moral purity was a precondition for being a creative, Jesus would be the only artist.

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Yes, study art history actually helps.

I think the art is the extension of the artist while its possible to create the impression of art trough techinique that is also why we out here terryfied at the ways in which AI will change art, so while i dont disagree that u can be a great artist and a shitty person, that is not the same as saying u can separate art and artist the Life of the artist and my knowlege of them will shape my interpretation of the art, but it also trough the art that i can see glympses of the inner world of the artist.

I don't want to disconnect people from art, I don't get that. if someone was fkd up and made great art that's even more interesting, you get to expirience this person's mind & spirit

This makes me think about Egon Schiele... In the US he'd be called a p***phile.

Darkest painting imo was bacon

This is sickining an anyone who loves art like this is also sick the man did not get his inspiration threw beauty and love but pain an torture and you look at it as if its beautiful and has a purpose, the reason why you "love" it is probably because you too can feel the pain in the eyes of the people he painted this shouldnt be imbraced but burned to free the spirits trap with in them, (for internment purposes only) 🤷‍♂️

Do you ever wonder if us the audience have some kind of responsibility over our creator's actions too? Sometimes I wonder if the pressure and secluded life we put them into turn them into monsters

CIM

Mahito

The only great artists out there are fn dark or insane. Thats the point. The darker and more morbid the better. Youre buying a Cho because the media said it was amazing art for years. Blah. But your buying a Picasso or a Vangogh because they were batshit and pioneers with amazing back stories. Anybody can draw a Batman.

To those who are blessed, pain will force enlightenment to the surface.

He had his reasons

Ughhhhh Are you talking? Listen to me please, if you don't understand "darkness" in anyone it's bc you either think you're smarter, or you're simply never honest you yourself. Once you understand who we are for ourselves then we as a consequence understand everyone else too. And if you don't want to know or won't be honest about your own dark side, then you'll never relate or even be honest with anyone

You said a whole load of nothing.

Just i can think of hitler?😅

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I actually surprised how most art "masters", either lived shitty miserable lives, or were evill fucked up monsters, rarely do you hear of a master artist who lived a normal life and just liked painting and was good at it,

There’s not enough evidence to know that he was a terrible person. I was just watching this British guy talking about this exact thing that Caravaggio gets a bad rap but he said said that there’s some new evidence which he didn’t get into. My uneducated opinion on this subject is that during his time the paintings he did for some of the Catholic Churches were risqué for that time which could have made him seem like some kind of monster or crazy person. He did get into a brawl while he was in Rome and murdered Ranuccio Tommasoni but do we really know exactly what happened?? Maybe Caravaggio had no choice maybe it was a kill or be killed situation idk but if that was the case then I don’t believe he was a monster. I definitely would love to know more about his life. Either way I love Caravaggios work.

Yeah, you're right, i don't really care about his life.

Satanic

Blah blah blah

Not being able to separate the art from the artist is a disability

This video is a waste of time. Pray you avoid it.

Evil genius.

We get it. Painter 👨‍🎨 from 1800’s was bad or had tough life.

I honestly don't like your videos.

Lol this guy thinks hes Caravaggio