The Dark Side of the Dalai Lama 

@paulgarcia450 That’s a tasty quote you spoke!

@@georgioman418 Ladyminster in Colorado

You just thinking that, it's just a your imagination nothing more than that. Even body language can't refers which you speaking here. We know limit of culture and physical boundary, In familiar case, playing with child and go to close and kiss them, it can not break any boundary. If you are still not satisfied in this incident please you can take a flight ticket and land in India then meet the little boy and retake his statement and then proceed the case in the court. I will satisfy with your steps. But why are you speaking&viraling here in social media? The boy said after met with HH,"It's a great experience meeting someone with high energy. It's a nice feeling meeting him, And you get a lot of positive energy. it's not just that, once you get positive energy, it's a better thing, and you smile a lot more, It was really god experience." The boy's mother said "Im Dr.Payal Kanodia Trustee M3M Foundation. We've been working in dharmshala on this skill centre which we started last year and since then we were looking at seeking blessing from HH. And you know... Today we got this opportunity, especially my family was there with me... We are totally totally blessed to have got this blessing from HH. He came, addressed us in the person, and taught us about peace that the world needs and how everyone needs to feel together like brothers and sisters. I absolutely cannot express how I feel getting blessed by him." Show me the tongue sucking video clips. That was not HH commandment. Buddhism teaches various ways to behave and talk with people, It's also a compassionate philosophy or way of life, laugh and happiness is also part of buddhism. /Laughing Buddha/ That was little boy, not a young man. So HH behaving like childish. There is not single way to behave compassionately/(Kaarunik),itself a huge scope. HH's apology is just for peace and patience. If HH speak more even people will criticize Him. Then He apologized and stay silent. 'Stay silent' is also teaching of Buddha. Dhammapada (227) O Atula! Indeed, this is an ancient practice, not one only of today: they blame those who remain silent, they blame those who speak much, they blame those who speak in moderation. There is none in the world who is not blamed. He apologized it means not that HH is guilty. HH's apology was just for maintain peace and patience. It clearly says in His apology. HH's intention was not to harm or abuse the little boy. Just there is bit a misunderstanding in some people's mind. When we see and observe with right mentality..there is no way to feel bad. "Every kiss is not disturbing or abusive or sexual__ Kiss of brotherhood,kiss of compassion kiss of friendship"

You should actually listen to what Brad said in his video. He wasn't talking about the issue with the little boy other than to say he didn't think it was an issue. Listen to what he actually said.

To be clear, I think the tongue thing is an innocent cultural thing. My point was about people who will defend religious leaders to the death instead of being reasonable.

The Dalai Lama is obviously an icon of the media, so is clearly part of the elite "actors" (an advocate of the 💉💉🤦🏻‍♀). Probably pedophile. He just slipped because he is old 🤷‍♀

The arguments involving the culture, the language, and the context more generally were downright explanatory. And I'm no acolyte. The whole perceived scandal was one of those bifurcating moments where you got an update on who still cares about careful discernment, who still cares about truth. No one can claim to care about ultimate truth and then turn around and fail to do basic research about about simple on-the-ground truths, or fail to even check their own mental fabrications for accuracy, especially in Buddhist circles. The fact that one behaviour can mean something radically different in one culture than another is a perfect example of the lacking of inherent essence (emptiness).

So cannibalism is okay as long as it is part of culture?

What a ridiculous argument.. if that’s the culture then it should be addressed and changed.

Apparently suck my tongue has a cultural context and is used by tibetan grandparents to scare children away. Dharmawheel has done a commentary on this. The dalai Lama used tibetan phrase "eat/suck my tongue" with direct translation to english.

Apparently this is something elderly Tibetans do with kids. It's a kind of game. Anyway, that's what people are saying. The idea is "I'm all out of candy, so eat my tongue."

Look up "Bullsh*t Dalai Lama" on RU-vid. It's a show starring Penn & Teller (the magicians). They go into a lot of how the Dalai Lama was involved with the CIA in training guerrilla forces in Colorado for a possible assault against the Chinese.

I think you refer to a few murders which has been committed probably in association with a "figure" called Shugden. This is a complicated story where the Chinese are probably involved in as well. I don't know about the bloody footprints, but I am pretty sure these entail murders (by human hand)

Yeah thats something I've seen in Tibetan Buddhism a bit, "blind faith." It's true the Dalai Lama was conditioned into his life completely differently than most of us were into ours, but that doesn't mean he's just automatically immune from greed, hate and delusion or the five hindrances or many of the other troubling mental states that we "commoners" experience. These are some of the things that turned me off from Tibetan Buddhism from the start.

People can get so caught up in a teacher, they don't care about the teaching at all and/or miss the flaws of the human who is teaching. Very common across all human endeavour. Some people are just more strongly attracted to people than to ideas. The charisma blinds them and honestly, they enjoy giving up some of their autonomy to a parental figure.

The blind faith that many Tibetans have to the weird Dalai Lama and the immoral thing the Dalai Lama did to the boy are both very bad.

He is satanist. End of story. Cia sponsors him

I think that's what's been bothering me the most too. I don't follow the Tibetan Buddhist tradition but I've been taken aback by the gaslighting and his defenders saying he's a god and should be understood as impossible to do wrong, that critics are just hateful and have wrong view and dirty minds. I can't help thinking of all those Catholic abuse survivors who were attacked for accusing priests and being told they were going to Hell!

Oh thanks! It's great when people notice those little things.

​@@HardcoreZen what genre of music are you playing sounds cool

@@diane3209 The song is from the second Dimentia 13 album. I guess it might be "folk rock."

"you are down to earth about these so called “spiritual” Is there anything down-to-earth about spirituality?

We defend His Holiness Dalai Lama with cristal clear mind..with enlightenment and wisdom of buddha. But you're criticizing Him with blindly, Yes a lot of people came and come to meet his Holiness, some if them maybe bad person... But our intention is promote their good things. to realize their good mind ans to heart... A lot of bad people change in good by the effort of His Holiness.. Long live HH Dalai Lama

@@kyegedun5444 I didn’t criticize the Lama. I do however criticize his actions. I don’t know what is in his heart, so I can’t be the judge of his heart. I can, however, judge his actions by what fruit they produce. In regards to his interaction with this child, it was a very unwise and strange thing to request of the child, hence, many people were disturbed by it. His action created chaos, not holiness, not goodness, not wisdom, but bad “feelings” in those who viewed, and heard, his actions. Therefore, his actions were unwise. He is capable of error, mistakes, misjudgments, bad action, bad behavior, etc. He is human. He is fallible. He is not God, or a god.

@@theneon_turtleThat was just a video clip which was edited. people see and judge according that clips with impure mentality.. What we see and hear It can not be truth always. I think you're a young...But we know young and old people also behave with child like childish. HH's action is not bad or unwise nor disturbing. His intention is not harm or abuse the child. It's justa kinda playful compassion and friendship. Nobody is forcing you to believe as a God. We have two words bhagavan and ishvara. it's not totally same meanings..

@@kyegedun5444 good to hear from you again. I agree that what we see here is a video clip, not reality. However, what I watched did not appear to be edited. It was a solid clip. Also, those who were present at the event, and who were disturbed by his actions, did in fact see it in reality, not a clip. Either way, it does t change the fact that his “childish” behavior caused problems for him, and the people who respected him. Age has nothing to do with this. I’ve known children WAY more wise than adults. If anything, adults have proven themselves capable of much more harm than children, so I am not sure why you brought up age. How old are you? Anyhow, you said that people viewed the video clip with “impure mentality “. Explain what you mean by that please. How can you say that’s a true statement? Are you capable of judging another person’s mentality? If so, how?

shoulda stuck a ? at the end of that..

You just thinking that, it's just a your imagination nothing more than that. Even body language can't refers which you speaking here. We know limit of culture and physical boundary, In familiar case, playing with child and go to close and kiss them, it can not break any boundary. If you are still not satisfied in this incident please you can take a flight ticket and land in India then meet the little boy and retake his statement and then proceed the case in the court. I will satisfy with your steps. But why are you speaking&viraling here in social media? The boy said after met with HH,"It's a great experience meeting someone with high energy. It's a nice feeling meeting him, And you get a lot of positive energy. it's not just that, once you get positive energy, it's a better thing, and you smile a lot more, It was really god experience." The boy's mother said "Im Dr.Payal Kanodia Trustee M3M Foundation. We've been working in dharmshala on this skill centre which we started last year and since then we were looking at seeking blessing from HH. And you know... Today we got this opportunity, especially my family was there with me... We are totally totally blessed to have got this blessing from HH. He came, addressed us in the person, and taught us about peace that the world needs and how everyone needs to feel together like brothers and sisters. I absolutely cannot express how I feel getting blessed by him." Show me the tongue sucking video clips. That was not HH commandment. Buddhism teaches various ways to behave and talk with people, It's also a compassionate philosophy or way of life, laugh and happiness is also part of buddhism. /Laughing Buddha/ That was little boy, not a young man. So HH behaving like childish. There is not single way to behave compassionately/(Kaarunik),itself a huge scope. HH's apology is just for peace and patience. If HH speak more even people will criticize Him. Then He apologized and stay silent. 'Stay silent' is also teaching of Buddha. Dhammapada (227) O Atula! Indeed, this is an ancient practice, not one only of today: they blame those who remain silent, they blame those who speak much, they blame those who speak in moderation. There is none in the world who is not blamed. He apologized it means not that HH is guilty. HH's apology was just for maintain peace and patience. It clearly says in His apology. HH's intention was not to harm or abuse the little boy. Just there is bit a misunderstanding in some people's mind. When we see and observe with right mentality..there is no way to feel bad. "Every kiss is not disturbing or abusive or sexual__ Kiss of brotherhood,kiss of compassion kiss of friendship"

@@kyegedun5444 You're just a big fan of the Dalai Lama and you'll always give excuses for him no matter what bad thing he does.

@@aspiknf I more big fans...highest is always buddha.... Dalai Lama is also my big fan..Buddha is behind Dalai Lama.... If you have proof then come on proceed the case in court. Why are you speaking here...?

Only born again Christians have the ability to be celibate and only then if they have the spiritual gift from the true God. As God doesn't give spiritual gifts to false religions that is why celibacy doesn't work for any of them. Catholics are not born again for example so that is why they become very perverted when forced into false celibacy

Not really. All the tests came out negative. He may have eaten something that disagreed with him. Also my nephew was visiting for about five days and that probably made him nervous. Maybe the combination?

@@HardcoreZen Maybe so. My cat got an upper respiratory infection after getting really stressed by our new kitten once.

Which book please? I’m struggling with this right now.

@@chris.dt580 The other side of nothing

Thank you. I hope I didn't offend you. Having been in Tokyo when Asahara's terroist attacks happened makes me a little too sensitive about this subject, I think. But I still would like to know why he endorsed Asahara. Surely he had plenty of other donors, like all those Hollywood celebrities, The article I linked to implies that maybe HHDL thought he could reform Asahara somehow. I don't know if that was part of it.

@@HardcoreZen No offence taken, thank you. The truth sometimes isn't nice but it is always kind. We'll probably never have the answers we seek about the endorsement so I'll resist the urge to rationalize or speculate. I love the lineage that has given me so much and I do think idealization is a critical part of development. In life, heroes, whether it's a parent or a guru often let us down and in doing so, present another opportunity. It's how we grow up and how students become masters. There are many responses one could take. I'd like to keep my dignity while refusing to become cynical. I believe there's a sweet spot there, if I can find it. I'm sure you've spoken or written on this issue and I look forward to discovering your thoughts.

I don't know any books about the subject. But there is a video on RU-vid. You can search "Dalai Lama Bullsh*t." It's from a TV show called "Bullsh*t" starring Penn & Teller (the magicians). They interview an expert about Tibet. Maybe he published a book on the subject.

I'm glad Ziggy is feeling better

Really?

@@HardcoreZen Yeah. My son and I have a dog

I watched the Asahara video btw. A psychopath and mass murderer I understand what your point is. But I think the above still holds

@@HardcoreZen I don't get the sense that a million dollars over a couple of years if I remember correctly would move the needle. There's Richard Gere etc. etc. All he has to do is ask

Source please?

@@user-rj9ee7hw8u Haha! Here in America we have free speech. The Chinese people are fine. It’s the government that’s horrible.

@@4imagesmore Source for what exactly?

Yeah... Yogananda... I like the book as a cultural artifact. Maybe one day I'll explain.

"naive to assume they are "pure" or incapable of ill intent." Are you pure or incapable of ill intent?

@Teller3448 no, of course not. That is exactly my point. The Dalai Lama is a human like any other. Claiming he is pure and isn't capable of doing wrong (as someone in Brad's video clip stated he is) is naive. I am saying that even if he had never done anything questionable in his whole life, it would be erroneous to assume he is "pure". That's just not the nature of humans.

@@tinadeemc8728 The whole point of Buddhism is to transcend the nature-of-humans. How will you KNOW this nature has been transcended?

@Teller3448 is the whole point to transcend human nature? Is it possible for a human to be above being human and no longer be affected by the human experience? Are you suggesting the Dalai Lama has transcended human nature? I think you and I may have come to Buddhism with different goals. I am not hoping to somehow level up from being a human, but to be content in my experience as a human expression of awareness and awake to the human condition. To transcend human nature I would have to overcome everything that makes me human and that simply isn't possible. But I've only been committed to practice for a few short years so maybe I've got it all wrong. I guess I'll just keep with my practice and see where it leads. All the best to you in your practice. Take care.

@@tinadeemc8728 I wonder if the historical Buddha ever spoke of "human nature". This concept seems more an old-sinitic one to me, - also a bit "soul-ish", - which was later integrated into the "big [religious] stream-system" (Hans Küng) of Buddhism.

He's met more people around the wold from different cultures and visited more countries than 99.9% of us

@@enterthevoidIi "[...] Standing next to me in this lonely crowd, is a man who swears he´s not to blame. All day long I hear him shout so loud, crying out that he was framed. I see my light come shining, from th west unto the east. Any day now, any day now, I shall be released." Bob Dylan

Yes. It is.

@@4imagesmore I've written about this. The precept against criticizing other Buddhists was never meant to shield Buddhists from legitimate criticism. It is often used by Buddhist leaders as a way to shield themselves from being criticize for harmful behavior.

@@HardcoreZen That makes sense.

I did not know that. That's interesting.

Can you cite reliable sources for the Chinese "brutality"? The US is rife with anti-Chinese propaganda just now because of the war hawks in government (and elsewhere).

He rewrote history many times, so to speak. E.g., he once said, he now suspects, in hindsight, that he was tricked into his clandestine flight to India by some advisors, based on false or at least twisted informations. - In sum, we all know that history - which has even of some necessity to osciallate between facts and fiction (in this case on the side of a l l involved parties) - is seldom purely black-and-white. - That´s why scientifically doing history is a big challenge and a difficult art, but that´s another story.

He has said that a few times! Also, that Tibet did not always have a Dalai Lama, and he sees no real need to continue the tradition. They had great hopes the CIA would provide the means (army, weapons?) to oust the Chinese, who invaded at the height of the Cultural Revolution madness. I expect that idea collapsed when Nixon opened relations with China. There are now more Chinese in Tibet than there are Tibetans. BTW, Tibetans also appealed to Britain for help but got none. I don't know anything about CIA money but I have heard Tibetans describe their first years in India. Unaccustomed to the climate and the food, many died, especially from TB and newly acquired diabetes from the diet. They worked on road gangs, slept in the open or, for awhile, in an unused prison the Indian gov't provided. Eventually, they were given a few spots to build monasteries in raw jungle. India was a poor place, itself, and not keen on refugees. It is a tragedy to lose one's country and become like stray dogs no one wants.

​@@roxanpierson9541 I already heard this version in the 1970ies, from the "Lhasa Review", if I remember right, which was a bit too propagandistic for my taste. The whole older and newer history is quite a complex matter. Obviously, living standards and life-expectancy have increased a lot in the Autonomous Region Xizàng since "liberation" in 1949. As far´s I know, not only has the population increased considerably, but it also still is Tibetan (how ever one defines the "Nationality", which is not so easy, because there never was a homogenous population) in the majority. It approached the ominous number of 6 million inhabitants of "old times", the Dalai-Lama bureau always talked about. But that was most pobably a fantasy number, because old Tibet never had anything like a reliable bureau for statistics, and no clear defined borders (not to mention the problem of "souzeranity"). In Switzerland, at least, - I know from when I did a study, - that the exile-community was fairly well off and well integrated; the elder generation even complained that the young people are mostly no more interested in Buddhism. As Bob Dylan once sang: "The times, they are a-changing." Collecting data was and is not easy: Propaganda from all sides. Well, I´ll leave it with that...

Me too!

Hmmmm?

I’m not gonna come back and look at your replies. No need to really. I would like to say that in a few years when you realize just how much you fell into a reaction over this whole thing…. To the point where you had to make two videos.,… and you eventually take this video down because well, I just know that at some point you’ll see just how caught up you are, that I will be somewhere, unknowingly happy for you. This video itself violates at least two of the 10 grave precepts. But beyond that, I think you’ll just be a little embarrassed about how riled up you got. Anyway, may your practice flourish. Like I said, no need to reply.

@@ianrobertmckown8448 Yeah. Supporting and enabling a mass murderer is really no big deal. I shouldn't have said anything.

"Only a bodhisattva can piss off a bodhisattva."

No one is beyond suffering and selfishness. But not everyone supports and endorses mass murderers and then doesn't even apologize for it.

@@HardcoreZen Then you disagree with the latter two Noble Truths? The best Buddhism/Zen can do is to make it a bit better, perhaps?

Ignorance is bliss eh?

Shoko Asahara was seriously bad news. A mass murderer.

@@HardcoreZen agreed. I remember when that happened. I guess what I am saying is that I never really think of anyone being incapable of being connected or tied in to evil people. I almost think that it is unavoidable if that makes sense. It's like running through a mud pit and not drop of filth on you. It's kind of impossible. That is life essentially.

It's just something I've heard in various places, that the Tibetan theocracy was no paradise for ordinary Tibetans. I don't know any details. But it's not difficult to believe. Most theocracies are pretty terrible places for everyone except members of the ruling religious elite. I don't see why pre-communist Tibet would have been be much different from, say, contemporary Saudi Arabia, or medieval Europe just because the ruling theocrats were nominally "Buddhist." There is a video on RU-vid called "Dalai Lama Bullsh•t." It's from a TV series by Penn & Teller (the magicians). On the show, an expert in Tibetan history makes some very strong claims about just how rotten the Tibetan theocracy was - torture was apparently very common, for example.

who is this Canadian guy?

And viva ziggy!

No.. I don't agree with you bro. Bless you

@@tenzinshakya3620 Well then you’re wrong.

R you right.. I guess not.

@@tenzinshakya3620 Are you right? Definitely not.

I am a tibetan n i know more about tibet n HH the dalai Lama. Plz don't argue.

I just learned the rhythm guitar part to Don't Fear the Reaper.

I hope so. It's gonna be a mess when he reincarnates.

@@HardcoreZen I pray for you Mr zen…you look like sick 🤒