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The Dark Truth Behind Stolen WW2 Shipwrecks 

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Entire WWII shipwrecks are disappearing from the ocean floor across southeast Asia. A wave of illegal scrap metal salvage is now regarded as the largest known incident of war grave robbery in history. Countless World War II war graves have been destroyed in widespread crime and corruption that is believed to be ongoing. Could the wrecks of the USS Johnston and USS Samuel B Roberts be next?
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The shocking @CNAInsider documentary "Shipwreck Robberies" details the widespread looting of shipwrecks of the HMS Electra, battleships Repulse and Prince of Wales, as well as HMAS Perth, HNLMS De Ruyter and Kortenaer have all been targeted in the south China sea and are now all but gone. To see the complete CNA Insider documentary...
• Who’s Behind The Illeg...
0:00 Introduction
2:45 @CNAInsider documentary "Shipwreck Robberies"
5:57 Battle of the Java Sea
8:25 Evidence of grave robbing
10:31 Hidden witness testimony
14:45 Blasting World War Two shipwrecks
23:31 Why are WW2 shipwrecks being looted?
26:24 Diving on HMAS Perth
39:22 Diving on HMS Repulse
41:17 Could this happen to the USS Johnston or USS Samuel B Roberts?
Additional imagery credited and sourced to the US National Archives
Source material for HMAS Perth...
Whiting, "Ship of Courage: The Epic Story of HMAS Perth and Her Crew"
Source material for HMAS Electra, Exeter, Price of Wales, and Repulse...
Raven & Roberts, "British Cruisers of WWII"
"Pacific Wrecks" pacificwrecks.com/
RU-vid "HMS Repulse Firing" Associated Press
Imagery of USS Johnston and USS Samuel B Roberts...
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@Matthew-jv1ee
@Matthew-jv1ee Год назад
As an ex service man and from a long family history of service I find this disgusting and an act with no honor. Thank you for helping to bring this to light.
@Venezolano410
@Venezolano410 Год назад
Colonizers paying the price. 😁
@madmaxcrashes546
@madmaxcrashes546 Год назад
Im sorry this is happening man thank you for your service
@marketablepresentations7824
@marketablepresentations7824 Год назад
Thank you for my freedom. These slimy little scumbags should have to pay a heavy price for this. To bad these prospective countries couldn't post some sort of body with cameras and detection device to alert the navy of the reck being robbed. Then these thieves and there ships could join the war memorial on the bottom of the ocean. You sink a couple salvage ship with all thieves on board and I bet this shit would come to a screeching halt. The Navy's of these war memorials obviously don't give a damn about the remains of these heroes who paid the ultimate price for our freedom or at least the people in charge don't.
@RaoulThomas007
@RaoulThomas007 Год назад
The salvager’s are disturbing the graves of the men and women who provided the salvager’s with the freedom they currently enjoy. Their behavior is outrageous!
@timwebster8122
@timwebster8122 Год назад
Absolutely disgusting behaviour.
@Schnipah
@Schnipah Год назад
Ya know, a warship putting a few holes in the hull of the salvage ships may be a decent deterrent.
@longinogiorda34
@longinogiorda34 Год назад
And send them straight to the bottom.
@SierraThunder
@SierraThunder Год назад
Sinking them would be even better.
@jeffreymanestar5319
@jeffreymanestar5319 Год назад
Yep
@Kevin_Kennelly
@Kevin_Kennelly Год назад
Feed the crew to the sharks.
@pj4433
@pj4433 Год назад
They don’t even blow pirates out of the water in Somalia no spineless leaders of our will do anything
@thomasbell7033
@thomasbell7033 Год назад
As a lifelong print journalist I want to thank you for being so careful to credit the original sources for this story. You get so sick of being ripped off, seeing some talking head presenting your work as if it were their own.
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@harrickvharrick3957
@harrickvharrick3957 Год назад
absolutely!
@tonyrowland9216
@tonyrowland9216 11 месяцев назад
after 5 yrs there was nothing organic left to worry about.
@mikewashko
@mikewashko 11 месяцев назад
The investigative journalist here is actually a Journalist and a hero to history. Not like the scum masquerading as journalist in United States now.
@harrygriffiths-iy5gb
@harrygriffiths-iy5gb Год назад
My Great Grandad was an electrician on the HMAS Perth and he survived the sinking and being a prisoner of war and made it home only to pass away years later from the wounds he suffered as a prisoner, I’ve heard lots of stories that amazes me even thinking about them now, the things they went through are truly remarkable and fascinating to hear about too
@timbrown2809
@timbrown2809 Год назад
if you can gain access to the ships log during ww2 your in for a amazing read
@hansmueller3029
@hansmueller3029 Год назад
​@@timbrown2809 thanks for that.
@horseyhorselips3501
@horseyhorselips3501 Год назад
My Uncle was Killed in Combat April 6,1942 Bataan Philippines Listed MIA 2nd Lt John Roslick of 31st Inf Reg
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@andrewhodges6612
@andrewhodges6612 Год назад
I served on HMAS Perth II in 1982 we held a morning service in the Sunda Strait over the site of HMAS Perth I in 1982
@thoughtful_criticiser
@thoughtful_criticiser Год назад
Any Naval ships coming across these criminals should send them to join the graves they are robbing.
@Ronaldl2350
@Ronaldl2350 Год назад
Absolutely deplorable and disgusting what they are doing to these war graves.
@HistoryX
@HistoryX Год назад
I wonder if things would be different if a US warship was dredged-up. I know the USS Houston has been hit by looters in the past, but not to the extent of the Australian, British, Dutch, and Japanese shipwrecks
@Ronaldl2350
@Ronaldl2350 Год назад
@@HistoryX wonder if they have not been touching the American shipwrecks, because they fear the U.S. government will take it seriously and do something about it.
@getoffenit7827
@getoffenit7827 Год назад
@@Ronaldl2350 the uss pope has been picked clean by salvagers in the java sea
@getoffenit7827
@getoffenit7827 Год назад
@@HistoryX i could be wrong but the australian,british and dutch ships in the java sea and other areas have been hit hard because they sank in relatively shallow waters and therefore easier for salvage divers to pick over and steal from...further the navy(s) that patrol those areas have no orders to protect wrecks or even guard against modern day piracy or fishing practices that destroy fish and other sea life habitats
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@python2228
@python2228 Год назад
As an American with relatives that fought in ww2 I find this heartless and disgusting those responsible should be given prison time for destroying war graves
@user-dh8rm8bw4r
@user-dh8rm8bw4r Год назад
and also paint all the wreckage in yellow-blue color
@clevelandaeromotive
@clevelandaeromotive Год назад
Good on you for picking this up and making it more accessible to Western eyes and ears. The disturbing and looting of war graves is outrageous. That said, the destruction of the home(s) to so much marine life is also a crime. If destroying some natural reefs is illegal, why isn’t it illegal to destroy artificial reefs??
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@Biketunerfy
@Biketunerfy Год назад
This is appalling. My grandad was in the Royal Navy in WW2 and the thought that someone blowing up his grave to steal the metal from his grave and his shipmates graves brings tears to my eyes. Those people fought and payed with their lives to keep the evil at bay. If they had war graves under the sea I would never mess with them just out of respect for the dead alone. Those barges need blowing out of the water or confiscated and cut up for scrap metal.
@taras3702
@taras3702 Год назад
Agreed, they should be sunk and sent to join the dead they were robbing
@WillyEckaslike
@WillyEckaslike Год назад
evil at bay..the allies and the Juice that controlled them were the evil ones...history is a set of L eyes agreed upon ..Napoleon
@davidkinsey8657
@davidkinsey8657 Год назад
Grave robbing has been a thing since the Egyptians first built monuments to their dead. As long as there is money to be made, there will be people who will disregard the laws and the dignity of the dead. Perpetrators of these crimes should face long prison sentences and crippling fines. These war graves need to be protected by an international treaty that is enforced by the navies of all nations.
@cindycarrasco2383
@cindycarrasco2383 Год назад
As a Retired Navy Veteran I find this appalling in every sense of the word! This makes me so upset because I to have a family member a 1st Cousin 2x removed that served in WWII on the USS EDSALL when it went down off the coast of Java. It sickens me a great deal to think that these grave robbers are doing this for scrap metal...where is the honor in doing that I ask!?😢
@Reinier-lt7rz
@Reinier-lt7rz 11 месяцев назад
$$$$$
@DeanBobolini
@DeanBobolini 11 месяцев назад
No honor, only greed. Shameless and disgusting greed. May they pick up an undersea mine by accident a join the graves they defile.
@kylekataryn3454
@kylekataryn3454 11 месяцев назад
feeding the living is always honorable.
@cindycarrasco2383
@cindycarrasco2383 11 месяцев назад
@@kylekataryn3454 what does feeding the living have to do with this...nothing
@kylekataryn3454
@kylekataryn3454 10 месяцев назад
@@cindycarrasco2383 everything. there's ready-usable low-radiation steel just laying there not being used. The living matter. the dead do not. it's supremely ironic that the British of all people are complaining about grave desecration, when they never honored the living relatives to begin with by burial and retreival.
@DougsterCanada1
@DougsterCanada1 Год назад
I completely understand the anger and hurt people feel about the disturbing, let alone salvaging of these war graves.
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@starsjosephfrost
@starsjosephfrost Год назад
Let’s pray all those salvagers get haunted by the ghost of the soldiers who fought and served in those ships. and that when they die they will see hell instead of heaven.
@ijnfleetadmiral
@ijnfleetadmiral Год назад
Salvagers cannot go after Johnston or Samuel B. Roberts...they don't have the equipment to get even halfway down there. They're after much-shallower wrecks. USS Houston is also pretty safe, despite being in such shallow water, due to the fact she is regularly checked on by the U.S. Navy.
@taras3702
@taras3702 Год назад
A pity we can't have a submarine lurking where these wrecks are being pillaged, with orders to sink these illegal salvage vessels.
@donaldkepple4927
@donaldkepple4927 Год назад
Thank goodness they can't get to the Johnston Sammy b and the Indianapolis
@taras3702
@taras3702 Год назад
@@donaldkepple4927 Don't bet on that, if large chunks of Titanic can be hauled to the surface, even these wrecks eventually won't be safe from the pillagers and desecrators.
@jfdomega7938
@jfdomega7938 11 месяцев назад
@@taras3702 exactly right!
@nunyabidness674
@nunyabidness674 11 месяцев назад
@@taras3702 minor point here, but when they hauled up the hull plate from titanic for the museum they still needed the subs to get lines on and to deploy the lift bags in the first place. Subs also stabilized the piece all the way up. Not a case of drop a line over the side and haul away. The sheer length of cable needed to get to the deeper wrecks means that trying to drop a barge claw doesn't really work. It's a cat chasing its tail. Longer the cable, the more the cable weighs, the more the cable weighs, the heavier the cable needed to support its own weight... Glomar Explorer (K-129 recovery) / Giant 4 (Kursk recovery) are two examples of the kind of equipment required to salvage from deep water. Not exactly your "toss it together in the garage" type of gear.
@dutchman7216
@dutchman7216 Год назад
That is absolutely outrageous! The Navies of the countries of origin should be absolutely outraged. Just to let you know HMS Prince of Wales is a Battleship not a battlecruiser. Thankyou for your work.
@dnedlew
@dnedlew Год назад
You stole my thunder about Prince of Wales being a battleship and not a battlecruiser...good for you for correcting his mistake!
@dutchman7216
@dutchman7216 Год назад
@@dnedlew Thankyou for honoring a proud ship. May she never be forgotten.
@DJKenTuckyOfficial
@DJKenTuckyOfficial Год назад
And let's also add the fact that in the battle of the Java sea the ships sunk were not battleships (he said the allies lost at least 8 battleships there), but smaller types of warships (heavy cruisers, light cruisers, destroyers)
@carlgreisheimer8701
@carlgreisheimer8701 Год назад
@@DJKenTuckyOfficial yeah, that is abig time screw up.
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@DaveWoods-ku5em
@DaveWoods-ku5em 5 месяцев назад
This is deplorable an act of touching war graves is dishonourable and a violation of evil doings
@mikedrop4421
@mikedrop4421 Год назад
Congrats to Hanifan, so many horrible things would have never come to light without the courage of journos like them.
@les3449
@les3449 Год назад
I was a crew member on two ww2 ships. This angers and disgusts me! I wonder how much money the "authorities" on these islands took to look the other way during these ILLEGAL salvage operations. Disrespectful and sickening people! They ALL need decades in prison!
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@clydebethatway7485
@clydebethatway7485 Год назад
Both my grandfathers fought the Japanese in the Philippines. Somehow they both made it back. But they were not the same men when they returned. One was in the army Air Force. The other was in the Navy. It would make them sick. If they knew their fellow comrades graves were being robbed. The way it makes me sick.
@kylekataryn3454
@kylekataryn3454 11 месяцев назад
should have buried them on land then
@Leo_Pard_A4
@Leo_Pard_A4 10 месяцев назад
​@@kylekataryn3454what a well thought out, intelligent comment.
@brentrussell780
@brentrussell780 4 месяца назад
Awws boo hoo! Who cares man they are long gone and dont give a shit. When you die and go to the next realm you wont give a shit about your bones either
@robertdeen8741
@robertdeen8741 Год назад
Wouldn't it be very pleasurable to torpedo the salvage ship while they're in the act of looting? No picking up survivors either.
@johnnyghoul8100
@johnnyghoul8100 6 месяцев назад
What survivors
@KHKH-os6kt
@KHKH-os6kt Год назад
There was a show awhile back about ww1 ships that had their stainless steel appliances and sinks removed by scrappers as it was considered un contaminated by nuclear material.
@richardcooper9417
@richardcooper9417 Год назад
The material is valuable for lining laboratories where they need to measure radiation accurately. Much of the German fleet from the first war was scuttled at Scapa Flow. Being pre-1945 it had very little radioactive material to interfere with measurements.
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@Wutzmename
@Wutzmename Год назад
I was looking for this comment because I was going to say the same thing. I'm glad to meet you. Great minds.
@kevinpittman2517
@kevinpittman2517 Год назад
yep thats exactly why they are dong it.
@AndymanGS
@AndymanGS Год назад
Thank you Ken for putting this together and making it free to watch by all. sharing this will raise the awareness of the public and hopefully the lethargic legal system will put paid to this looting and distrubing of war graves and UNESCO sites
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@daniellee5147
@daniellee5147 Год назад
God nobody has ever made me not want to use audible as much as you have.
@donaldkepple4927
@donaldkepple4927 Год назад
Anyone caught robbing war Graves of heros should be put in prison for life
@briankesterson4365
@briankesterson4365 Год назад
Sounds like the local government and law could be tied up in this with the salvage industry.
@bobbofly
@bobbofly Год назад
Problem with bringing the criminals to justice is the statutes are largely unenforceable due to lack of manpower coupled with widespread corruption within the enforcement agencies. Horrible, but it is what it is.
@jayjones6904
@jayjones6904 Месяц назад
Ty for the video and in investigation
@wes5532
@wes5532 Год назад
Even though these warships lie in foreign waters, are they not technically still the property of the countries who commissioned them?
@paulreichelt1259
@paulreichelt1259 11 месяцев назад
Yes they are.
@georgehughes8698
@georgehughes8698 Год назад
Thank you for putting this out it is an atrocity that needs the light of day shown on it!
@markberman8958
@markberman8958 Год назад
This is absolutely repulsive, disgusting and without honor. This will never be tolerated.
@StaceyIsles
@StaceyIsles Год назад
HMS Exeter was illegally salvaged my grandmother's brother was a sailor on her :(
@KiselinaSRB
@KiselinaSRB Год назад
More people need to see this. And the culprits must be held accountable. Justice must be done.
@atomicwedgie8176
@atomicwedgie8176 Год назад
Nothing will be done by the US government, o'biden and hussein o'bama are probably making money off of this heinous atrocity.
@davidmcintyre998
@davidmcintyre998 Год назад
If only but i doubt anything will be done,i have been told a destroyer sank with the HMS Hermes has completely disappeared.
@KiselinaSRB
@KiselinaSRB Год назад
@@davidmcintyre998 I am on the other said of the planet and cant do much. Neither do i have a stake in this but i find the whole thing detestable. What i did is left a negative comment and review on there google calling them out as grave robbers. Sadly as a single person there is not much one can do. But if it was more publicized in the states that the ships belong to and reported to the UN some thing might be done. But nothing will happen until the Politicians in charge are made aver and pressured in to action. It is painfull to watch because a similar thing is happening on Kosovo whit Serbian graveyards Albanians are destroying grave stones and graves trying to erase that any Serbs lived there for centuries. And nothing is being done by the west cuz the Albanians are American buddies. And now when i think about it UNESCO wont do a thing either cuz they did not lift a finger to protect Serbian Churches build in the middle ages century. So yea crap.
@davidmcintyre998
@davidmcintyre998 Год назад
@@KiselinaSRB Yes the war killed so many all around the world and they should all be honoured but as you point out we seem to learn nothing,i do believe in Karma and if you do bad things bad things will come back to you.
@dmitryshusterman9494
@dmitryshusterman9494 Год назад
What's wrong with scrapping old wrecks those people are trying to make a living and I think finder has the salvage rights per maritime law
@andrew3203
@andrew3203 Год назад
Grave robbing has been humanity's favorite sport for thousands of years. There are many stories of people finding treasure buried with metal detectors. As for these shipwrecks, they may be carrying valuable stuff in their vaults, anything from gold bars to coded documents and even medals or other memorabilia. The bronze propellers are worth a fortune anyways.
@menow.
@menow. Год назад
Yes, and we are never going to stop it.
@philipmcdonagh1094
@philipmcdonagh1094 Год назад
As I commented above, One of these days they will be after the oil that's inside nearly all of these wrecks.
@johnknoefler
@johnknoefler Год назад
The only thing I find disturbing is the disrespect for human remains. Box the remains and return to sea.
@kevinpittman2517
@kevinpittman2517 Год назад
its the actual steel... had to do with it being made before nukes.... its wild but it makes all that pre-atomic age steel very very valuble
@galenicalhoover6508
@galenicalhoover6508 10 месяцев назад
@@aussiepom The iron ore in the ground can be mined without contaminating it. The problem arises during smelting where oxygen from our atmosphere and other metals are added and the air has the traces of radioactive fallout as do the other metals. Manufacturing pure virgin stainless and specialty steels is ultra expensive. These ships are the most cost effective way to obtain low background steel. We have been robbing graves forever. It's just a matter of how old they are to insult our sensibilities. Look at all of the looting in Egypt of ancient graves and nobody complains.
@williamwhitaker8000
@williamwhitaker8000 Год назад
I think the ones that are stealing on ships and cutting them up I gotta put them in jail for life
@sbdbsshed5763
@sbdbsshed5763 Год назад
There's no laws in Indonesia if you drive by on the street you can see dozens of 10 year old driving racing 200 cc motorcycles that's crazy😅😢
@AbbyNormL
@AbbyNormL Год назад
It was interesting to see the USS Croaker in your sponsor segment. The USS Croaker was a WWII Gato-class submarine. It was modified and recommissioned several times over the years. Following its last decommissioning, it was initially displayed in Groton, Connecticut. In 1981, I was transferred to the USS Bremerton (SSN-698), then under construction at Electric Boat in Groton and I traveled past the USS Croaker daily going between the submarine base and the shipyard. The USS Bremerton (SSN-698) was my first submarine. When I reported aboard, my division Leading Petty Officer aka LPO was a Senior Chief Petty Officer whose first submarine was the USS Croaker. Nice to know the USS Croaker wasn't sent to the scrapyard. It's a small world.
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@johnmccue9798
@johnmccue9798 Год назад
I was on USS Seahorse SSN669 back in the 70's
@ArchieStormcloudOfficial
@ArchieStormcloudOfficial Год назад
Your LCPO was your LPO, shipmate? Submarines Once!
@jamesrecknor6752
@jamesrecknor6752 Год назад
Japan and Germany had nothing on our own government for destroying our historic military treasures.
@thejohn6614
@thejohn6614 10 месяцев назад
​​@@flashgordon6670these wrecks are in international waters. I don't think what they're doing is actually illegal. Even if you had satellite footage of the ships what good would that do? It's an extremely difficult and costly venture to raise a ship. Who would pay for it? You couldn't do that with most ships anyway because they're so damaged that most of it would fall apart. Even if you did lift it and put it on display somewhere you would just have a big rust bucket with jagged edges all over it. People wouldn't be able to go inside or anything. And there is an organization that's responsible for stuff like this. UNESCO. But it's not like they can do anything about it.
@cassidyguzman3043
@cassidyguzman3043 Год назад
I’ve never come across your channel before but I’m glad I did. I can’t even begin to tell you how pissed I was while watching this! While I currently do not know for certain if I had any great relatives, who perished I know for a fact that many have. These warships were not just a piece of history but a final resting grave to so many. As someone who’s going to school for history and maritime history it greatly upsets me. I never knew these things were a problem I never suspected it to be a problem, because I figure because they were final resting graves these ships are to be protected. I was wrong. I hope going on in the future these people are caught and punished. No matter how valuable the steel or iron is it should not be TOUCHED!
@debatablelands_ratcher6354
@debatablelands_ratcher6354 Год назад
Hms Exeter has been robbed , there was a sailor from my town killed on that ship , I discovered his head stone in our church yard
@austinblack7991
@austinblack7991 2 месяца назад
They should force the salvagers to put the ships back
@glenntremblay5406
@glenntremblay5406 Год назад
Of course I believe in the sanctity of war wrecks but it does beg the question when does it become permissible to loot graves? There's a long history of grave robbing from King Tut to the ice man that I believe was found in the Alps. What is the cut off date?
@Cortinaman63
@Cortinaman63 Год назад
@glenntremblay5406 You raise a good point on human double standards, On Land Millions died in WW! & WW2 in houses, trenches, fields, all got bull dozed, and reused, all those places were "War Grave sites", but when it comes to the sea, filled with ships, tanks, etc that would of cost a small fortune to remove for the nations who owned the ships, they just leave it there and "claim" it is a War grave. and now that some one else is making money from removing the scrap at the bottom of the sea, that should not be there, some complain about it, I never stop finding it funny how humans are so blatant with their double standards, (war graves on land yes just remove them as we need to re use the land, but under the sea, no one uses it, and never mind the pollution from the wrecks, just call it a war grave and leave it there. what a total farce.
@brianbirtcher431
@brianbirtcher431 Год назад
@@Cortinaman63 that's exactly what I was going to say. Get that crap out of the ocean and bury any remains on land
@frankbodenschatz173
@frankbodenschatz173 Год назад
Great expose!
@hakimthumb
@hakimthumb 3 месяца назад
Very sad. I as a diver and history buff view this as a sad moment for our society. I understand the need for these metals but it's a historical grave. Hope you enjoyed your view of our ships here in Buffalo NY. They do need some TLC sadly
@HistoryX
@HistoryX 3 месяца назад
Your passion for diving and history shines through your words. Thank you for caring about these historical sites.
@Tom65478
@Tom65478 Год назад
This is a very well made video, may every crewmate rest in peace.
@getoffenit7827
@getoffenit7827 Год назад
I was in singapore back in 1989 and went into a curio/ antique shop and the owner offered to sell me 2 main gun tompions from what he claimed were from HMS Repulse
@HistoryX
@HistoryX Год назад
Really??? Wow, that's amazing. So this has been going on for decades.
@getoffenit7827
@getoffenit7827 Год назад
@@HistoryX Yes,He also had personal items he said came from thr Repulse and showed me rings,a couple watches,eye glasses..i didnt think much about any of it until i saw those items,it pissed me off. But what to do about? Im in singapore for 1 day,I went back to my ship reported it to my XO gave him the address of the shop but i dont think anything ever came of it
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
You should’ve written a letter to the embassy.
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@getoffenit7827
@getoffenit7827 Год назад
@@flashgordon6670 which embassy? American? Brit? Where were you? You shouldve been there to instruct all u.s. navy personnel to be on high alert for pilfered artifacts from sunken war ships.
@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513
@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513 Год назад
One can only hope they bring up armaments that are still live and that go off and destroy their ships.
@bellgab
@bellgab 9 дней назад
The salvage value of bronze propellors has to be huge.
@McRambleOn
@McRambleOn Год назад
CNA insider has a lot of good vids/docs. Thanks for the information & highlighting this piece to bring attn to a cause as worthy of attn as this is. Great work.
@matthewwilson5388
@matthewwilson5388 Год назад
Very sad my grandfather was in wwII on the USS Louisville CA-28 North Hampton class cruiser. He came home in 45 but so many didn't . More need to be done to protect these ships and all the young men's Graves
@micoasters
@micoasters Год назад
This is disgusting, also if they blast in the wrong place or wreck they could set ammo off and trigger a massive explosion. And it’s sad to see these ships be ripped apart mercilessly, not only for the people who fought and died on them but the people that built them
@brentrussell780
@brentrussell780 4 месяца назад
Oh shut up man. Whocares. They are dead and thier soul has long moved onto the next realm.. they dont care and niether should you. Get some spiritual awakening and grow up already.
@docinc1000
@docinc1000 4 месяца назад
This is a disgrace... Let them rest in peace no matter what side they fought on give them the dignity that they deserve..
@og_bobby_g
@og_bobby_g Год назад
Thanks for bringing attention to this
@kirkkirkland7244
@kirkkirkland7244 Год назад
All I know as a Navy veteran if I was rich I'd outfit a ship to shoot torpedoes and I'd go looking for these damn grave robbers!!! If the government's aren't going to make them pay or do anything to stop this unbelievable crime then they shouldn't worry about someone sinking these damned grave robbers!!!
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Then the illegal salvagers arm themselves and come after you and your family. What next Einstein? We’re dealing with pirates basically here and we’ll organised large criminal gangs that are up to God knows what and are being helped by the authorities and even governments.
@johnwhitley2898
@johnwhitley2898 Год назад
This is clearly a violation and is horrible and disgusting. Thanks for bringing this to light here. 😠 The sad side of this mess is that money talks loudly, and the countries giving out these vague salvage "permits" are: # 1: Poor #2: Very corrupt #3 Police States (eg: Indonesia...) I'm surprised the journalist is still alive! Make no mistake, there's serious money going after this steel. It's a literal gold to whoever it is....: Pre-Atomic High Tensile strength special alloy steels. As he said, it's not IF it is literally WHEN. Greed.
@muscalay7516
@muscalay7516 Год назад
This is just horrible. How can they be so disrespectful?
@danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk
@danadurnfordkevinblanchdebunk 11 месяцев назад
"...all steel created after WW2 has been slightly radioactive." Yes, but all steel ever produced is slightly radioactive, in fact everything on the planet has always had a radioactive signature since the beginning of time.
@jimwiskus8862
@jimwiskus8862 Год назад
It is so sad that these grave robbers have no spiritual or moral compass. What they have done is abhorrent and evil beyond imagination. My thanks to this channel and the brave young journalist for this sad story. It is sad but must be trumpeted from the mountain tops. Thank you….
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
They’ve probably got families with 10 children or more that need feeding and clothing.
@brentrussell780
@brentrussell780 4 месяца назад
Oh shut up man. Whocares. They are dead and thier soul has long moved onto the next realm.. they dont care and niether should you. Speaking of spiritual stuff.. Get some spiritual awakening and grow up already. Its good the metal is getting cleaned up
@sharonwhiteley6510
@sharonwhiteley6510 Год назад
This is absolutely unconscionable. I remember watching the original documentary by CNA. I was under the impression something was being done. As usual, wrong. It's up to each major power, to work together, to save our war dead from grave robbers at sea.
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@TheUnplugged1
@TheUnplugged1 10 месяцев назад
thank you for bringing light too this depravity
@neverendingmods
@neverendingmods Год назад
And nobody is doing anything to stop it because they can't. It's hundreds of salvage companies doing it. The steel is worth many thousands of dollars plus their cargo. Some cargos are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. To a poor fisherman the opportunity to report wreck sites where nets get stuck and get a thousand dollars is too great to resist.
@Saddletramp1200
@Saddletramp1200 Год назад
Abandoned vessel, International Waters. There is no laws.
@carlgreisheimer8701
@carlgreisheimer8701 Год назад
Naval warships sunk during wartime are treated differently
@bradmiller4999
@bradmiller4999 4 дня назад
It was a Global war, people died some instantly some brutally, some suffocated, some in agony, these ships have laws in place stating they are war graves it’s a form of protection. They did not ask to die in battle or by being torpedoed, but they did so they are protected so show some fucking respect you heartless tick.
@HoundDogMech
@HoundDogMech Год назад
What's the Difference of Salvaging Ship Wreaks Believed by some as Sacred and Opening Egyptian Toombs of the Pyemias?
@smokeydapot
@smokeydapot Год назад
About 4000 years. Those bones were quite possibly the remains of someone's father who's still alive today.
@IdleDrifter
@IdleDrifter Год назад
Grave robbing of Egyptian tombs happened long before European archeologists picked up a shovel.
@DavidDiaz-zp4hu
@DavidDiaz-zp4hu Год назад
No difference a grave is a grave and I like how people are getting so up in arms about some bones when the very policy of the Navy for casualty affairs is to simply chunk them off the boat to feed the fish .. smh ..
@kirkstinson7316
@kirkstinson7316 Год назад
​@@IdleDrifter And what of all the medieval era bodies in cardboard boxes in England? They aren't thousands of years old
@gumelini1
@gumelini1 Год назад
The difference is western hypocrisy and double standards
@LoganJohnson-lm2bh
@LoganJohnson-lm2bh 8 месяцев назад
2 things 1 we can place monitoring devices on these wrecks and if disturbed go there and see why .2 if they are salvage vessels remove the crew and sink the salvage ship until it makes it too expensive for those companies to operate .If they complain cease all there assets If there Governments complain block all commerce into and out of that country.
@mrcarr9890
@mrcarr9890 Год назад
Respect for the dead is a basic human responsibility, yet this doesn't surprise me. As economies collapse and people get more desperate, this will not only continue but increase. Very sad indeed
@bkucinschi
@bkucinschi Год назад
Some veterans organizations from around the world should organize and punish those grave robbers.
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@kirkkirkland7244
@kirkkirkland7244 Год назад
The history that they have destroyed for greed can never be replaced! The owners of these damned salvage places should spend the rest of their miserable lives in prison!!! How damn evil can people get???
@JPF941
@JPF941 Год назад
this is nothing, look at what they are doing to the workers in the scrapyards, what illinesses are they suffering from today and in the future.
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@Dragon_Werks
@Dragon_Werks Год назад
@@JPF941 who cares?
@Dragon_Werks
@Dragon_Werks Год назад
@@flashgordon6670 it's not just illegal, but realistically impossible to raise these wrecks to recover the remains. Read my highlighted comment to see my proposed solution.
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
@Kirk Kirkland: But then what punishment would you give to war criminals and perpetrators of genocide like Hitler and his Nazis?
@Dans.channel4me
@Dans.channel4me 11 месяцев назад
That's absolutely reprehensible. We need to station ships there for security. They'll stop doing this once a few of their ships have been turned into scrap metal themselves.
@watchoutitsthisguy
@watchoutitsthisguy Год назад
Absolutely disgusting. People that do this no longer deserve oxygen.
@kenneth4992
@kenneth4992 Год назад
Thank you for this story. I am not a metallurgicalist but if the pre atomic steel is brought up and processed does the process taint it with radiation the same way new steel is processed when raw materials are brought up from underground and made into steel? How is new steel being made tainted with radiation? I am in no way defending these people who are doing this. I am once again glad you shared this story. GOD Bless you and your family
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@philipcallicoat3147
@philipcallicoat3147 Год назад
An enterprise so well equipped that has to be funded from higher up... When there's money to be made, the rules don't matter 🤬☠️....
@aegontargaryen9322
@aegontargaryen9322 Год назад
Absolutely bloody disgraceful
@JoeMangleWins
@JoeMangleWins Год назад
My grandad was sold as scrap metal after he got back from Oz
@chriscolemusicalsound
@chriscolemusicalsound Год назад
when I consider what was asked of that generation, to pay the last full measure of devotion only to be scattered to the scrap yard for a couple bucks. I simply have no words. just a deep hurt in my heart.
@henrymuenich6296
@henrymuenich6296 Год назад
This is disgraceful these are graveyard of humans remains. Would you dig up your love ones? ❤😢❤.
@trevorwilliamgrindrod3999
@trevorwilliamgrindrod3999 Год назад
They should be imprisoned for 25 year's for war grave robbing and illegal Maritime salvage, this is the lowest of the lows, disgusting and heart breaking. My grandfather and his two brothers fought with the USA and survived being captured by the German's in WW2, I Remember them proudly with tear's every Anzac day as I play the Last Stand at 6am sharp
@heatherrrenea
@heatherrrenea 11 месяцев назад
Like ive always said: never underestimate a crackhead when scrap metals are involved. Theyll dive to the deepest depths of the ocean using a 2 liter coke bottle and some yarn and move entire ships or destroy a $20k piece of equipment for $2.60 worth of scrap.
@remb9614
@remb9614 Год назад
I’m not sure I’m onboard with the nuclear radiation angle, but I’m on board with whatever it takes to stop this from happening. We all know the reason they do this is because of free metal.
@tonyc223
@tonyc223 Год назад
High quality armor plate and other high grade steel. Tons of copper,brass, stainless steel. This is a scrappers dream. These countries know exactly the company,s doing this
@kirkkirkland7244
@kirkkirkland7244 Год назад
As a Navy veteran I say if they catch these scumbags they should sink them on site!!!
@timbrown2809
@timbrown2809 Год назад
alot of salvage hunters are protected by corrupt govt officials, and are quickly warned if another countrys navy or police are in the area
@kilcar
@kilcar 3 месяца назад
On the spiritual side, there are things, dimensions, and a lack of understanding that we only perceive vaguely. The owners of these illegal scrap operations risk disturbing things that will haunt them forever.
@bennycolburn1341
@bennycolburn1341 8 месяцев назад
All those people that are stealing the stuff up. These ships need to be put in prison for the rest of their life.
@jeffreyskoritowski4114
@jeffreyskoritowski4114 Год назад
Dosen't anybody care about the Merchant Sailors?
@benadam7753
@benadam7753 Год назад
@ 6:08 none of ships lost in the Battle of the Java Sea were battleships, they were all heavy and light cruisers. HMS Prince of Wales was a battleship, not a battlecruiser! It's a real disgrace that people put profit over human dignity...
@3613jeremy
@3613jeremy Год назад
I can't believe ships rotting away at the bottom of the sea are worth the effort it would take to reclaim the metal much less the blow back it would cause
@trevorn9381
@trevorn9381 Год назад
These ships were built before the nuclear age and thus contain low background steel which is very valuable. The remains of the men who went down on these ships are no longer there. After 75 years, even their bones would have disappeared. Basically these wrecks are just a bunch of rusted junk on the bottom of the ocean. I personally don't see anything wrong with salvaging them. If they hadn't been sunk they would have been broken up for scrap after the war.
@karlmiller7500
@karlmiller7500 Год назад
@@trevorn9381 a video mention that many of these shipwrecks are underwater museums visited buy divers from all around the world. It is still a grave, there is probably nothing left of bodies buried under the ground but you still don't dig them up and remove jewelry and other personal belongings.
@danielbont2331
@danielbont2331 Год назад
@Trevor N actually the remains were still there. Some of the human remains were found by the scrapyard workers and the divers who have been to these sites attest to witnessing the presence of human remains in these ships. This is very much tearing up a grave to get at the goodies inside. And even if there were no human remains in there it would still be destroying national heritage.
@brentrussell780
@brentrussell780 4 месяца назад
​@@danielbont2331Oh shut up man. Whocares. They are dead and thier soul has long moved onto the next realm.. they dont care and niether should you. Get some spiritual awakening and grow up already.
@rverro8478
@rverro8478 Год назад
I find it funny that, many decades ago, a particular shipwreck, was gutted for its cargo of aluminium which, is very valuable. "THEY'VE" been at it for over 60 years. Regardless of IF, there was human remains.
@artienye2094
@artienye2094 Год назад
there is an american ww2 submarine that was sunk by japanese warships off the island of kho samoi thailand several hundred kilometres east in approx 235 ft of water....the entire crew are still aboard her...this is recognised as a war grave ...this sub was identified by a team of thai and u s navy divers as the uss lagarto....i hope this sub does not go missing...if it does the entire world will finally take action against these ship grave robbers and the robbers will spend time in prison where they can reflect on their crime
@longinogiorda34
@longinogiorda34 Год назад
They should be booby-trapped.If someone goes there,then, 💥!
@timbrown2809
@timbrown2809 Год назад
gateo class?
@smokeydapot
@smokeydapot Год назад
Genuine question, what about that submarine would make the world take action as opposed to these other shipwrecks?
@timbrown2809
@timbrown2809 Год назад
@@smokeydapot mercury leaking into a potential food source
@kirkkirkland7244
@kirkkirkland7244 Год назад
With the satellites we have why can't they keep a eye on these shipwrecks and when they see a salvage operation happening go out and sink them!!!!!
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@TripleCrossProduct
@TripleCrossProduct Год назад
This is too risky and too dangerous for even a handful of companies to do. This is ran by the government.
@mcgee1864
@mcgee1864 Год назад
Well, what do you expect when there's quite literally millions and millions of dollars worth of VERY HIGH QUALITY steel just laying there on the bottom of the ocean doing nothing but rotting away...
@rickybrock9204
@rickybrock9204 Год назад
😂😂 i agree, the navy only calls them a grave because they couldn't be bothered spending all that money to recover the bodies and decontaminate the wrecks.
@krischambers9021
@krischambers9021 10 месяцев назад
How could the remains this old and have been in the water for 75 years still be odorous? Rip❤
@WELLBRAN
@WELLBRAN 3 месяца назад
My Dad always said all his stuff went down with Exeter...he survived 36 hrs in the water spent 3 yrs as a slave labourer ..NOW THAT IS THE BIG STORY OF THIS MOMENT IN HISTORY ...DO A DOCU ON THAT!...Lets get it right the survivors had a worse fate which effected them physically and mentally all their lives after. Do a story on that !
@stevesgardeningadventures2153
@stevesgardeningadventures2153 Год назад
What shocks me is just how greedy people have become not even grave sights are safe from thieves. These people should have weight's tied around their feet and thrown into the ocean the world would be a better place without them.
@Assarson_Philip
@Assarson_Philip Год назад
The scrapmetal/shipyard company should be prosecuted for war crimes and graverobbing. With a heavy penalty/fine against the company. Discouraging future crimes from other companies.
@Sevenspent
@Sevenspent Год назад
Dang, why did they need to salvage war ships when I heard covid caused alot of curise liners to be scrapped?
@KingDavid68
@KingDavid68 3 месяца назад
They must’ve paid that government’s police off
@rightwing3940
@rightwing3940 Год назад
Those salvage ships should be sunk
@terencefredrick9726
@terencefredrick9726 Год назад
This should be an international crime and the countries that are condoning this action should be held accountable.. Perhaps we should go to their country and dig up their family's graves, I'm sure that would get the attention of the authorities
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 Год назад
Isn’t there any satellite or aerial photography, of the illegal salvage vessels and operations? The meaningful question is how to prevent illegal salvaging of shipwrecks? Perhaps the only real way is to organise multinational operations, to raise the vessels and rebury all the human remains? Then the vessels can be turned into tourist attractions that can reimburse the operations to raise them. Perhaps some left over pieces could be sold for Scientific use and artefacts and antiques sold to museums and responsible collectors. A much better way to preserve the history and respect the souls, who went down with their warships. It just takes joined up thinking and cooperation on an international scale. This is what’s wrong with our world and why there’s wars in the first place, bc of the lack of international cooperation on joint projects. Somehow, I highly doubt that the scrap merchants were selling all that scrap for special instruments. They would’ve gotten rid of the evidence as quickly as possible. Maybe the Chinese are behind it? There must be some paper trail and financial evidence of all this pre bomb metal and where it went after the scrapyards. That’s what’s needed to be investigated m, either by the police or by private detectives. The police have most probably been bribed and are in on the racket, so good luck to anyone who’s brave enough to try and investigate the flow of the metal and paper trail. Sounds like a job for the Cook report guy and rogue trader’s Matt Right and maybe Ross Kemp for some extra muscle. Don’t worry though, there’ll be plenty more shipwrecks when WW3 kicks off and at least they’re recycling all the old metal, instead of causing environmental damage producing fresh metal. Poor fishys though, now they have to look for new homes.
@kenneybis1097
@kenneybis1097 Год назад
Every countries military: Trashes ocean Salvage crew: Cleans ocean Every country: Thieves!
@kranz13293
@kranz13293 Год назад
More people need to be active in protecting these sites. Those that salvage them should never be respected
@tylernathan7985
@tylernathan7985 5 месяцев назад
Really can’t see the use in Preserving the wrecks when non nuclear metal is used for so much.
@gregoryheim9781
@gregoryheim9781 Год назад
Why are the colonial nations expecting the Malaysian government to spend all of their money to protect these sights? With nothing in return. The wrecks are too deep for tourism. The colonial nations should pay for the Malaysian government to do this work.
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