The darkside of the INTP 

Haha, ok next time I'll be sure to add that caveat. ~ Nathan

Whatever, we're amazing🖤🖤

It might be because I'm in a university bubble, but I'm generally well liked. I'm just too independent to ever really belong at a fun group gathering unless there are people who are willing to talk about topics that are not shallow in nature. That's not necessarily the worlds doing, but rather my own wish. I have a small group of friends that are all quite independent (though not all introverted), so it works well. I generally think the INTP works very well in a university setting. We have a lot of original thoughts/ideas and although we don't usually enjoy it, are very capable of leading other people (I mean, there's kind of the internal dilemma of the enjoyment of having the power vs. having to deal with people that are not always as capable) and often end up being forced into that position for these reasons as well as our perfectionism. I guess what I'm trying to say is it's easy to like us for our originality in thoughts and shouldn't be bothered by the type of people that don't like us, because those people are usually not interesting enough to associate with anyway.

Yeah , i too think & feel so. Almost no one likes a woman like me here ( i live in South East Asia) , society always expect us to be Fe dom/middle i guess😂

Exactly !!

I believe I am one myself as I have scanned through alot of articles from various different platforms and domains and the only explanation I can give is Be yourself, seek the truth and bring havoc to your reality because that is the only way you will make it fit your life. When you let go of falsified thoughts you reach higher conciousness and sure you may lose people and get kicked but this is called evolving/ascending into higher thoughts, feelings and thinking patterns etc, progression strives and always remember our universe before our eyes is shaped by our conciousness. Criticise only what holds you back. (I've edited this a lot in hopes that it will make sense but I want to try to help so I hope I am not too vague or anything)

@@godhimself9774 "Criticise only what holds you back" It's so hard for me to be in the moment enough to recognise the habbit of being critical of others, however i'm getting better at biting my toungue.

Jigisha K this is so true im crying 😂

@K A Yes, it's interesting to study sociopaths, it's complex, and more than good and bad. And it doesnt make us one of them. Just that.

@@godhimself9774 It could be true but the thought of bringing havoc to my reality makes my inner Si child shriek in terror. 😱😬 I guess we have to work at embracing the chaos since that randomness and uncertainty is what we're primarily afraid of. But I can't stay out of my comfort zone for too long. I can only dip into the scary stuff and out of it, or I end up becoming too overwhelmed and unable to cope. I couldn't live my entire life out of my comfort zone 24/7. Just small things daily for me. 🙂

Maybe I should call her...

my friend was talking about her bad family life and I laughed accidentally because I thought she was kidding and then my whole entire group stared at me angrily😭 no wonder i never get invites to places

trueuuuueueueueue😂😂

That's a pretty interesting thought! I too have flirted with the temptations of such a seductive lady lol. I wasn't able to reconcile nihilism with my deep universal beliefs though ...so I've settled on the most part for Gnosticism ...which I guess you could consider more of a materialistic nihilism lol

THIS is too accurate

Good thing people are much more complex than mere "society". Perhaps the general populus "expects" something else, but there are some gems who don't.

I'm an INTJ. People don't know how to handle T-Women. We're "cold". So go out, and dominate. You have the edge of surprise.

This truly is an oof.

THIS

I've learned to politely tell people that they're effing hypocrites.

They could learn how to do that though.

True! I'm often scolded by my friends for this and most of the time I didn't know what I do/say wrong

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@@MyouKyuubi shut your libelous mouth. God knows i tried. But feelers don't have a set rules, our Ti is bound by logic, rhetoric, epistemology. What are feelings organized by... ethics, maslow's hierarchy of needs? Im not trying to put feelers down, im seriously asking, get your shit together. One of us makes sense, that's not any way to have a conversation.

@@chewsday5760 same......sigh....

Amen! ~ Nathan

Bruh, u right

Leo Coyne because of the P in us.Thats why we do meaningless stuff some times. It stands for procrastination.

Leo Coyne 2 when an INTP uses lots of words to speak, it’s because they are thinking out loud.

Leo Coyne When INTP’s think out loud, they understand they have a high probability that no one will listen.

100% I still reflect on those moments that happened years ago, however all the fights, punches or physical confrontations are a thing of the past, barely a memory, however that shot to the intelligence, son of a bitch does it leave a long lasting scar.

@@Finding_Elysium and then you re do the whole conversation and say exactly what you needed to say in your head, nod in approval and then remember its too late^^

@-COLOMBIANCHANNEL-TM your comment is stupid. When we say being outsmarted we only mean directly and by our peers. Of course im not the smartest person on earth. But being beaten by someone i know and i regard as less smart than me is humiliating( the good kind, helps staying in touch with reality and reminds you of your place). If you thought i was prentending to be the smartest you really need to re learn how to read and contextualize.

@-COLOMBIANCHANNEL-TM i am indeed above average. Thats only a logical conclusion. Is it sad ? No. I never thought i was special and id rather have more social skills instead of being a bit above average in intelligence. Anyone can outsmart you given the right circomstances and being overall better than someone at something doesnt mean he wont best you. You clearly lack a greater vision, you are being too simplistic here if you think i'm boasting. My comment was about being more humble and you accuse me of being delusional and arrogant ? Make more sense please. And understand the gap between confidence in your abilities and arrogance. If thats not too much to ask of you.

@-COLOMBIANCHANNEL-TM ??? I dont understand what you are trying to do. As if anything you said put you anywhere close to outsmarting me. You just started basically repeating what i said before, then make baseless assumptions on my intellect and mental state ; and then deblaterate the obvious about the unknown of the world. And if we are talking about self doubt, i do constantly doubt everything, including my abilities. But testing them over and over shows you conclusions you can rely on long enough to use them before doubting again. I believe im smart. But i constantly put that statement to the test. I am a person who doubts and hates herslef very regularly. You are making baseless assumptions that is all. I think it is you who is showing your pathetic side by reacting the way you do to my statements. You dont know how much ive reaserched just by curiosity about INTP's and MBTI in general to understand if it was reliable or not. You cant be a Ti hero user. Your failure to understand the truth and your sloppy presumptions have taken away any credit you could have. I was genuinely waiting for you to show me you werent as dumb as i thought you were. What a let down. Ps : i was not gonna denigrate your overall spelling, as i am not a native english speaker. And i dont care about the ":" wich could simply be a a typing mistake, something that is inconsequential in a youtube comment. Edit : in case you get the idea, save the critics on the long comment. Accuracy is a trait INTP's have. When i bother to do something, i do it well. Even if it is a comment adressed to a person i judge so far as inferior intellectually.

I have that same inclination. The things I think about saying sometimes are sickening in retrospect. Development of introverted feeling and extraverted thinking are paramount to fixing this. Recognizing and accepting that feeling is a rational function, acknowledging what those feelings are through introverted feeling, sorting them out with your strong introverted thinking and expressing them in a timely fashion when they arise through extroverted thinking is incredibly difficult but incredibly necessary if you want to be able to function successfully in the world. Otherwise you just become cold and dark and alone and all that rational brilliance you value so much will be snuffed out in darkness. I'm speaking from experience.

I do the same thing. I find it amusing. I could be making the soundest point in a debate and my opponent will just one wipe their ass with it. Then I drop an insult and suddenly that shit is real. On the inside I sit there laughing and ask why can't they just wipe their ass with the insult the same as they did with my argument?

Cool. How can I do that?

@@vloh3097 It's just about throwing the person off balance, so the better you know them the easier it is. But really, most people are the same so all you have to do is figure out what's bothering them about the conversation you're in and figure out why it does. It is always based on some insecurity they probably don't know they have. Then just use that. I have a friend who literally asked me to stop doing it when I'm upset because she'd rather be punched, so be careful how you use it I guess.

Well I'd say it's because we see conflicts as necessary steps to reach a conclusion but to reach the conclusion you have to have someone to counter you, but since we are methodical thinks we skips the build up and head straight for the left right goodnight lol, but if we can keep our own emotions in check then how can we think of a suitable response so we remove the emotional aspect and it just looks like we go for the throat but really we started from the bottom and cut all the way to the top lol

@persistent bordeom. That is worse than arrogance i think....

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This comment should be pinned.

I'm really curious about what sleep feels like in CO. Or what cyanide tastes like. Talk about dangerous curiosity. Literally.

It's funny, isn't it? The inspirational quotes became mantras for life over time. Because they're true. I think people want to be “smart” because so much emphasis is placed in things like IQ. We want assurance that we're not useless, which many people tell us we are. Especially as an INTP, finding a community of people who “get” you means a lot.

Haha! Fair enough. ~ Nathan

Exactly. What's to love? Everyone else calls us emotionless robots.

Xero recently a guy tried to compliment me by saying "I love Siri" … f***ing really?

@@ellieb.1231 Oh no, that's awful!

Lovable...(but why?)

Trust me, INTPs are essential for the human race to survive! ~ Nathan

Love Who i know that, but it doesn’t make a difference to me. i don’t want to be an intp

It would be so peaceful to be dumb right? I'm thinking bimbification erotica right now, because I see why certain people would be into that.

The old saying " ignorance is bliss " comes to mind.

Omg YES. I can relate so much to this.

Only intps find this joke funny , I'm wondering why you didn't delete it after 10 minutes

my youtube currently being in dark mode😂😂😂

DISGUSTANG

As it should :')

444 likes. 4 replies before me. I honestly forgot there was another option.

@K A Amen

and i don't have desire to improve my Fe

Same here. But the thing is, and probably most of you agree, it gets exhaustingly old trying to respect lower intelligence people's emotions, when all most of them do is react like fucking retards. So at some point you go rogue and stop caring. I am fully aware of it and I'm at the point where I don't fucking care anymore.

@@valcard Cringe, stay indoors and stay mad lmao

Same here I hate it when my sister cries or wants a hug. She comes to me complaining and I just tell her one word to say what I feel(and it describes my opinion perfectly) and in my mind it is enough but to her it's me not caring. No I just don't find unnecessary coversation to be fun it annoying

Love this comment!! ~ Nathan

Love Who How *dare* you know us? Stahp it. 😂

I feel that... Just because they can't understand us.

"INTPs, everybody's favorite"... on the internet. Not so much in the real world 🤷

Same here.

we're likable in theory but no one likes us in real life

By my own family

Literally!!!

INTP here - This is.... accurate.

I know I am years late…but damn I’m glad I aint the only one 😭

Yeah, how many INTPs have no life and zero friends, because they never leave their house?

*laughs in constantly randomly isolates myself and doesnt talk to any friends for months at a time*

@@lunastariaspiritdiva8662 even if we leave our house we feel that we are disconnected from reality we live in our inner world

Yeah I mean it's a metaphorical way of telling it.

I agree. But then again an INTP version of a "genius" is probably placed on a higher plateau than the average intellect would place the mark.

To be fair, we can be extremely intelligent....just not in traditionally useful ways.....like I cant do math for shit...but hey if you ever need in depth knowledge on the lore of bionicle, or the aerodynamic and physics for the best "nerf" darts on the market accounting price and performance for use in competitive play....then I'm ur guy......

@@watyhu99 for non traditional insert useless

@@phililpb you say useless, I say very useful for the hobbies I personally enjoy and partake in, some people invest time in computer sciences, mechanical engineering, and astrophysics, I invest mine in the final fantasy series, building model kits, and studying the conceptualization of fourth-dimensional shapes and the attempts to physically visualize their third dimensional shadows.

that's very true

im one and i can vouch for this

Yeah, ive exploded many times when people couldnt understand that i had to be in my room as my anger was increaseing to the point i probably would have hurt someone. So i broke a trach can instead of beating a face in.

@Kaiser Ike same

I agree. My best revenge is cutting the cord and never talk to them again.

intellectual mosh pit... how accurate.

I'm stealing "intellectual mosh pit". For exactly what I dont know, probably just squirrel it away for another time that may or may not ever happen. I'll put it next to "planetary brain", nickname given to me by a former coworker that eventually became my supervisor and forced me to resign from my job.

I blocked so many people in the INTP groups on Facebook that it finally became a fun place for me to interact. Though actually there were a lot of trolls there who weren't INTP. Whereas in the INFP and INFJ groups I never had a problem because everyone there was so nice. Even though I never related to some of the posts, like "How does this picture make you feel?"

@@xero6396 INTP trolls don't bother me. They troll in exactly the same way I would troll, and I know their weaknesses as well as I know myself, so they're easy to slap down.

@@xero6396 depending on the group, a lot of those trolls aren't INTP.

Are you sure you're not INTJ? LOL. Nah, I often caught myself in scenarios where I'm a supervillain, like Darth Vader or DIO, and have their respective powers. From there on, I imagine what I would have done to defeat the main character, which generally bests the antagonists. You would be surprised at how powerful villains tend to be... and how easily they could have won by doing the right choice of moves... even if the MC is just as equally effective and smart. This is a pretty reality-disingaging activity though, so it's better to do it during vacation, when you have nothing else to do XD

@@umcaraqualquer3640 haha I don't believe so, I've taken that test from various sites at least 20 times over the years and everytime it comes up as INTP, so I've got a pretty good sample group. Only one time did it appear as another, though to be fair it was INTJ. Though, maybe it comes up as INTP because I know how to manipulate the tests and subconsciously do so... I may have some reflecting to do on that one. But yeah, I don't do it just for evil or bad characters, literally any character, comedy, drama, science fiction, I have a hard time not breaking every action or bit of dialogue down, and analyzing it, especially the illogical/irrational nonsense, that stuff drives me up a wall. The crazy thing about myers briggs, is I think there's a little bit of many in each person. I know I have a lot of INTP tendencies overall, but have the hands on,no nonsense, lets get shit done mentality a lot of the ISTP. I defintely love my alone time, but do enjoy the company of others on the weekend and socializing with good friends around a bonfire or something of the sort, basically I've seen myself with minor pieces of other types. I don't think his intention was you were one and only one, wouldn't make much sense to be pigeon holed to one type. You also have to add in environmental factors and molding over the years of life, which can have an effect on the overall personality as a whole. Fascinating stuff at the very least. I'm also glad to hear I'm not the only one who does so, and sadly it is very disengaging, which is why people often ask if i'm alright at gatherings because i'm spaced out reflecting or thinking of heaven only knows, or dissecting peoples interactions. haha,

Dann you mind reader you!

@@umcaraqualquer3640 deadass serious that's all i was thinking reading this INTJ

@@Finding_Elysium judging by your appearance (if that's you) you are way too put together to be intp. Like even ur beard is angled perfectly. You have a serious facial expression and spaced your paragraphs. Also you care what ppl think when responding to the other person. Maybe you are just a balanced j/p...what does your room look like? That's the tru intp test lmao

Rad. Yeah, being an INTP female is no picnic. I grew up as one in a very conservative community and received no respect. It was brutal.

Thought experiment: The train dilemma... You are on a train along a track that is about to split... If you keep going straight doing nothing, you will kill 1 person. If you flip the switch and swap tracks, you will kill 5 people. Most people would do nothing, in order to do as little damage as possible... They consider this to be the moral choice, the "greater good". INFP rabbit hole: But what even is the greater good? The world is suffering from overpopulation problems, so technically, the greater good would be to flip the switch and kill 5 people, doing as much damage as possible... It might seem cold, but this objectively is the greater good as it contributes to solving a more pressing permanent issue than... The temporary emotional turmoil of multiple families. So yeah, there's a bit of a dark side to INFP's... I wouldn't call it the "death of moral" i would call it "The dark side of morality". xD Making sacrifices for a better future is a common aspect of morality, and a reality we as a species, have to become more used to... otherwise, we won't have a planet much longer, and then we'll all go extinct, which is worse than having a group of people die occasionally... See what i mean? It's not wrong, it's just kinda tough to swallow.

@TheNorth Remembers I've never said being rational means not having feelings. Actually, I pointed out in the iceberg allegory how we, INTPs, may end up having a rational Ti that finds out the logical flaws of moral codes and Fe that still wants to be nice and empathetic to others. And I absolutely never mentioned the word genius... What I said is that, if you take a moral code and you use your Ti on it, an exercise of logic, always asking the why, you will end up with the truth that, unless supported by GOD, morals have no rational support. The closest try to develop a rational proved moral code is the one of JS Mill, but not even his can stand a hard logic argument.

Madao, “overpopulation” is a debatable assumption people have been indoctrinated to believe. So to presume that the death of more people is a good thing is not necessarily correct. God can handle the big questions. Let’s just try to do what He asks us to do and leave the big problems to Him. He will guide each of us to make a wise choice if we let Him. As far as the immediate question about the train, I am adverse to actively causing the death of 5 people. As for the one person whom the train is heading for, I will pray like the dickens for him or her and hope that somehow things will not go as it looks like they will. Who knows what will happen for sure? Nothing is impossible with God. Also, perhaps that one person is a great leader with a good mind and heart and love of God. Perhaps that person could do more to save the world that the other five ever could. If that is the case, saving the one would be the greater good. You do not know everything so do your best in God’s eyes, trust in Him and sleep well at night. 🙂 (ISFP)

Reproduction itself isn't even inherently logical. What is the point? So your genes survive? That doesn't mean shit, you're still dead at the end of the day. Why even want any part of yourself to survive? That's not logic, that's emotion. It's not hard to understand that the most basic and universal ideas of morality and ethics are based on people's individual well-being. All rationality stems from some level of emotion, some sort of sentiment. In the purest sense, the only truly logical concept there is is the functionality of the universe, which we technically may be getting all wrong because there is a possibility that our senses have horribly deceived us in some way. Thus, it would seem to me that instead of the world being divided into the logical and illogical, it could more accurately be divided into different forms of logic- that meaning logic that is used for different purposes. Say a particularly emotional person wants to feel good. They use their logic to find a way to feel good. The thing that makes them happy obviously varies from person to person and from type to type, but the base logic is the same. Different people desire different things, but in the end, it's all based on desire, not some logical necessity. Without some sort of sentiment guiding our logic, there is no purpose for it. There is no purpose for anything unless we give it purpose. Purpose is itself an illogical concept. What people often view as "cold hard logic" is often illogical for the same reasons.

@@traditionalgirl3943 "Madao, “overpopulation” is a debatable assumption people have been indoctrinated to believe." ... No, it's not a debatable issue, there are planetary problems happening world wide right this second, measurable changes in the atmosphere and such, that reduce our planets chances of producing edible crops, building materials, etc etc. Global warming is reducing our planets resources, and our growing population are increasing our need for MORE of said resources... More than our planet can dish out. This is objectively an overpopulation issue... Has nothing to do with indoctrination, you goof. :P "So to presume that the death of more people is a good thing is not necessarily correct." The death of people is a good thing for the planet, humans are an invasive infestation atm, and if we want to survive, we have to actually cull our population. : / "God can handle the big questions." God doesn't exist... Or if a god-like entity does exist, it definitely doesn't give two flying fucks about us or our problems. "Let’s just try to do what He asks us to do and leave the big problems to Him." And that is precisely why we're having these issues, because of irresponsible mentalities like yours. You think this is a problem only god can solve? That god will handle it if it's necessary? That just seems like a convenient excuse you make to avoid having to grow the fuck up and be responsible for your actions. Let me put it in terms you will understand: When judgement day comes, god will judge you as selfish, irresponsible and self-centered, and send you straight to hell for all eternity, because you were delusional enough (You lied to yourself) to think god would fix all your mistakes and used that delusion (self lie) as an excuse to keep making the same mistake over and over, to avoid growing up. -.-' I grew up with a religious family, and still came out an Atheist... Because as an INTP, i see right through bullshit like cognitive dissonance... I could spot double standards and hypocrisy when i was 6 years old, lmao. Took my grandmother by surprise, several times, when she tried to brainwash me into the religion. Needless to say, she stopped trying to brainwash me when she realized doing so made her doubt her own religion more than it convinced me to believe in it. :P "Nothing is impossible with God." God doesn't actually exist though, he's a fictional character from a book, not a real being. That being said, even if the biblical character of god did exist, he STILL wouldn't lift a finger to help anyone... Because nobody actually gets help from him, the bible states this quite clearly, SEVERAL FUCKING TIMES. For one, humans have free will, and therefore, human decisions and actions are not influenced by god, whatsoever... YOU are solely responsible for every action you make, NO EXCEPTIONS. :P So as far as being religious, you're bad at it, because you don't even understand your own religion. : /

“From afar” lol! Love that. ~ Nathan

Yeah.....That's true.

I made myself into a very likable character. Now people want to interact with me on a regular basis. What others might call a success, I call a mistake.

@@antonackermann9620ha ha. Been there done that.

Yes afar :(

How does personality disorders effect personality an are som types prone to certain disorders??? Wats yur take on it??

@@frankluis4653 I read a good blog on this..I'll look for it and link.

@@ChantelStays my hero! Thnk u

you should not resist it, you should embrace it. as carl jung said "I'd rather be whole than good".

Are you an INTP Nathan?

Elireum Sometimes you gotta just go outside and take a bus around the city or something. I know INTPs are overthinkers. Perfection doesn’t come if you don’t start. For Ni judgers, it’s easy to plan and practice. But for Ne users, you just have to ACT and fix as you go. You have to create as much as possible so people don’t “brand” you but see you as a creative who will do anything and everything so the heck with it:)

@@hannahmathilda7101 You're right.. I need to remember not everything needs to be perfect, and I know ultimately I'll be happier doing something rather than letting all my ideas run around in my head without materializing them. Thank you :)

I’ve been isolated too, but there has been some good come from it. For example, I’ve learned how to cook and also learned more about what I want and don’t want. Isolation can force you to confront these parts of yourself, and then you can work on it. Definitely make the effort to get out more, but don’t beat yourself up for the time spent in isolation. - ENTP (we can be introverted, too!)

I recognize your bullshit, because it smells like mine. You know exactly what you need to do. You just don't really want to do it. If you really wanted it, you would do it. Instead you've been doing what you truly want, because that made you happiest. Out there is drama. Drama is hassle. Who wants hassle? People who want to tell great stories.

@@antonackermann9620 oh man don't get me started on storytellers and their redundancy and repetitious speaking style

Ok let me embark on an intense toughening up regime and you can rate me next time around ~ Nathan

Fascinating! That conflict between feeling superior intellectually yet having the self-awareness to doubt that feeling ~ Nathan

Sometimes I do... but also, there's the natural human inclination to want to feel special and unique. Just like everybody else. lol

@@DreamQuillRose Exactly, it's scientifically proved that everybody tends to feel better than average in many aspects in life, not only INTPs. In conclusion, everyone has that interior feeling of being intellectually superior than most people, but they aren't.

This describes me perfectly

I kinda understand the feeling, as when I had a 'reality break'( i dont remember how to put it.) I got very narrcistic, instead of being humble which i usaully try to be.

you seem like a really cool person actually :)

Hmm I'm also an INTP-T however I don't have as many problems as you but I can admit that life sucks I myself at the moment am trying to improve myself. Don't let depression get to you man you can beat it use the logic us INTPs are so proud of to beat your problems. I'm pessimistic and realistic myself but I want to change that I want to be an optimist while still being realistic. So I hope you find your way. I don't understand how being an atheist has any relevance it's probably because I was too lazy to look for the reason why but I personally am a Christian. If you ever feel alone remember you're not the only one struggling the world at times might seem like it isn't there for you but there are others like you so feel comfort that you're not the only one not to mention I assure you, you must have at least one person who cares about you even if you don't realize it. We might be logical but we don't know everything.

As an INTP, I notice that I utterly lack common sense. My way to deal with it is to learn as much philosophy as possible. As of now, I have really enjoyed studying existentialism^^

That's quite interesting, I also consider myself an INTP but I have an extroverted side and often enjoy social contact with others. What you say is quite true, even with similar personalities, everyone can differ quite a bit.

I’m an INTP and I’ve social anxiety too. May I ask what may have caused you to develop social anxiety?

Haha, I know what you mean. I have the reputation for being very patient, but once time my brother did something I absolutely would not put up with and I went all Indignant Big Sister on him on the phone and when I hung up my friend were staring at me with their mouths open. Kind of fun to take people by surprise sometimes. They were like, "Wow, I better not do anything to tick you off." lol

A few years ago I laughed at a joke in my class ,and the person in the sitting next to me was like ,you’re smiling?!something along the lines of that.(it takes a lot for me to laugh at someone’s joke,naturally)

I act a bit opposite haha I usually make sure not to show anything, i only react slowly and make sure to be mild with my responses. If I know something but I am too lazy to do it, I’ll say I forgot to do it. So you can see when I accidentally snap, people get shocked. I remember something? Achievement! 💀

So did i. It was at my age of ten to recognize acting sad is sometimes necessary.

It's scary indeed! ~ Nathan

Yeah, yikes! 🤣🤣🤣

Fellow INTP-T here. Medium depression, though. I know the feels.

Madao we got this, just gotta keep truckin

HAVE I FOUND MY TWIN 🤧

Same

yeah

Interesting, I'll check that out. Feel free to email any good books to me: contactlovewho@gmail.com ~ Nathan

It is not our behavior that is the problem, but the reaction of others to it. I want to "consume" everyone as they are. I always try to understand the other person and put myself in his place (Which does not always work, but at least I try, unlike the masses!). I would like, in return, also be accepted as I am now times. I don't understand why so many people really proactively refuse to do that, but demand every tolerance and acceptance for themselves. While they just mentally and verbally mow other people down.... I just hate people by now. Used deepl translator

I have been the same way since childhood,the shy or quiet kid, with a close knit of friends,I can communicate to people I don’t know ,I talk about there interest’s ask about there day ,just because I need some social interaction or I’ll go crazy like any other human being ,but having a low threshold for how much socialising I can take in one day drains the fun out of it,I get angry and annoyed and the vail falls off

@Anna Elmo it really hit me when you said “Funny thing is when SHTF i am usually one of the few or the only one there to help people” Because i remember when i went to a birthday gather from a guy I wanted to be friends with and it started raining heavy at night as i was on the way, but i still went there without a umbrella soaking wet. Some of his “close friends” didn’t even showed up. Fast forwards some months later he didn’t even gave me a happy birthday on my day. And i don’t even give that much importance to birthdays but when i realized it happened 2 years in a row i just stopped talking to him.

Dudette, embrace the dark. It won't hurt you in the end. There is no escape. Read up on your Jung. I was not a big fan of Jung until middle age, when I found that I could not escape the darkness, but it is only through the darkness that you can truly reach the light, or whatever is your destiny. Don't fear your destiny. Embrace it, and keep going. Life is movement and change.🔀🔁🔂♾

I always felt like a lone wolf. I even got a nice, big wolf tattoo bc of that. And because wolf's are really family guys and protective.

i love this

let's do it

Joe mama doing it is the hard part 😪

The perpetual pursuit of the unattainable. So true.

Really I want INTPT society where I can live peacefully

Currently working on improving myself.

@@chelleybeans1283 Working on this myself, I think. Any progress after a year?

@@Demention94 yes I’ve had some progress thankfully! I have a lot of friends who are feelers who I’ve learned from. Although I still don’t feel many emotions I know how to at least react to things in a better way that doesn’t make me seem cold hearted. Hope you’ve made some progress too.

Glad I'm not the only one.

Same.

Haha! Brilliant ~ Nathan

Better at decisions? The liquid you spilled on your keyboard while playing a city or planet building game for 12 hours straight while eating food cold out of a can if you ate at all, ignoring friends, family, loved ones to the point of alienation, exploding and saying cruel things when one of them comes over to check on you, neglecting hygiene in favor of 14 hour naps and the same dirty shirt for days at time, eschewing human connection out of fear, annoyance and childish irrational insecurity coupled with poor emotional management while bizarrely clinging to a sense of superiority from the dank, dark confines of a filthy, empty, palpably sad bedroom that reeks of stale coffee, weed and apathy….beg to differ.

​@@lloydtxw This is just mental illness that you're describing, not all INTP's are this way. Sure, many are prone to being this way (you'd know if you watched the video) but it doesn't stop us from putting logic over emotions and being able to see a situation from many different perspectives. We see a lot of the outcomes and consequences of a decision before its made, more than the average person driven by irrationality and emotions.

I’m glad you found the video accurate! ~Nathan

The easiest way is to make use of friends or just befriend new people and go out with them. It’s amazing the hilarious and sometimes dangerous situations you can get into when you have lots of extraverted friends you can interact with! ~ Nathan

Hang out with an ESTP. Seriously.

@@heatherbryant4197 I'm an INTP, best friend is an ESTP. Can confirm.

@Mr. 8-Bit Doggo That's scary...YT becoming mr krabs

Plan a 2+ week trip doing something you have an interest in. They say it takes 2 weeks to form a habit, so immerse yourself in a completely different way of life. Have a friend in a different country? Ask if you can visit for an extended period of time. Don't do touristy stuff. You will learn more, and have better memories if you live like the locals. Is there an activity that you're interested in, but have no experience doing it? Jump in the deep end, and figure things out after. I never knew how to sail. So I joined a crew going from Florida to Michigan. It started out scary. I questioned what the hell I was doing for a few days on the boat, but I couldn't run away back home to safety. I had invested time and money. Then my normal habits began to disappear. I met a lot of interesting people. I began learning more than I thought I would, and became a vital member of that crew.

OMG that's exactly what I do when ever I'm frustrated, I isolate my self and start reading books or searching random subjects just any thing to get some knowledge

@@shimaabdallah6784 yes sameeee

😂 "Researching random shit and watching long ass documentaries". This is me. Sci-fi movies no longer cut it because I made the mistake of studying Engineering at university. Now, instead of suspending belief during movies, I find myself questioning everything. Now I'm stuck with long ass documentaries.

@@shimaabdallah6784 @HermioneGranger. That's exactly what i do too ! Did you guys ever heard about enneagramm ? That's a well known defense mechanism of type 5. Since they feel like they're ''empty'' they start panicking and try to compulsively feed themselves with lot informations to feel safe and secure again. PS : I don't even know if i said it correctly since my English is kinda bad and it's already been months but anyway :3 i really think it could be usefull. -A fellow intp-

You just explained my whole self!! I do that too. I have a big problem with nihilism and sometimes I find myself sitting on my chair thinking about if life has any sense.

Agreed. I tell myself, "Nothing good will happen unless you make it happen." And, usually, for good things to happen you have to get other people involved. Other people provide you with a reason to get over inertia and discover you actually have a lot more energy than you thought. Even an interesting, philosophical conversation with a cashier can bring a spark alight. Or if you say something that cheers someone else up. You realize that you can use your intelligence for good, that you actually have the power to bring warmth and ideas and energy to the world, and it's a very good feeling. :)

Well the types doesnt truly define us, they just show a part of us. Sometimes im INTP, INFP or ISFP (most of the time im INTP tho)

Oh man, that's definitely an INTPs who's gone bad.

it maybe cuz im an intp but like he chose todo that so clearly it made him happy so i see nothing wrong w that not like it hurt anyone

@@imtired5787 Nothing wrong with INTP. But this young man hurt everyone in his path. He felt entitled and everyone had to tiptoe around him while he made no effort to make his own way in life. It hurt his family and destroyed lives. Now he happened to be an INTP. Hitler was apparently an INFJ. Other types have their dark side too. This in no way reflects INTPs in general. But yes. This man destroyed people with his manipulation in order to sit and have everyone cater to him. Everything wrong with that.

@@redskyalice2529 Classic Puer aeternus. We all have it in us. That's the Si child version of it. It was predicted by Jung that this kind of phenomenon was to increase in our era. I am really not sure you can blame the guy for what developed for him. INTPs have no Se and seeks good Fe. They'll get dragged into whatever Se forces whilst being oblivious to it. You seem very quick to put blame on the one guy that sticks out but I bet you his family and surrounding share the essence of his dysfonction as well. Your invoking Hitler as the bad boogie man is the same normie simplistic interpretation. Sad he is eating bad food, physical unhealth is really hard and terrifying.

@@jonathanreave8558 Nothing simplistic and yes he had a crap upbringing. A lot of people did. But hey you didnt know the guy. PLEASE do not see this as representative of INTP. One of my best friends is INTP. Hitler was mentioned to illustrate that every type can go "bad". MBTI shows the cognitive functions we use, but our thoughts are up to us. Each and everyone MUST ALWAYS HOLD THEMSELVES ACCOUNTABLE (not shouting, just illustrating importance). My son has Si child (INFP). He goes the other way though. Always exercising. Listen, we can all be balanced or unbalanced. EVERY TYPE (hence the Hitler illustration) can turn their thought to evil. We simply all have to remain accountable always. Blaming life on others keeps us in victim status. Do you think I've lived a "privileged" life? No! I could genuinely blame everything down to my car being stolen so I was out of work for awhile etc. etc. But being sorry for ourselves and think the world owes us something is so very dangerous. It will ultimately lead to death (if not spiritually, then physically eventually). EVERYONE has been given at least some kind of opportunity in life (maybe not much but still). This guy had it all. Looks, brains, everything. But he focused on his upbringing and decided to take everyone else for a ride because of it. But thanks for your response. At least we're dealing with real issues, particularly in this day and age. Best

Hahaha! Me too. Unfortunately like ghosts, they haunt you. It’s very hard to work linearly if you have Ne.

Ne Dom here. I wrote my goals down in a journal/planner and also anticipated common excuses not to do my work and answers to them, as well as breaking down my plans of action so as not to get decision fatigue. I even wrote a page about what was holding me back psychologically, and then figured out some solutions for those. It definitely helps keep me accountable, and I realized something major about myself that was making studying/life harder than it needed to be, which was that I wasn’t learning from my failures (I.e., shitty Si). You’ve got better Si than I have so your planner/journal will probably be cooler than mine. 😉

@@seventhsheaven yeesss I have a bullet journal and made it look so pretty.. I'm starting to check things off finally after a whole year has gone by... I'll work on consistency now 🤗

@@seventhsheaven thanks 🥺

@@khadhija7 I have a bullet journal too but the problem is being consistent with it. Making it look pretty would be fun but just add to my perfectionism and hinder the outcome of the purpose for it. Consistent effort in focused areas has always been a problem with my studying and intellectual pursuits. I tend to want to branch out too much because it's more fun. But in my relationships I'm not like that. I always need to narrow down my contacts to be able to spend the most time with the people who are the most significant to me. Which is why I amass online friend requests from strangers and I generally ignore them unless there is definitely a lot of common ground.

Hahaha! Yes, I teach my mom how to turn the TV on every weekend. I even downloaded an app on her phone where she taps twice and scrolls for things. She still doesn’t understand how to do it ;-(

I had to accept, years ago, that I shouldn’t try to solve people’s problems unless they explicitly ask me to. Don’t get involved, and then you don’t get frustrated. Just smile and nod as they tell you all about their problems, and roll your eyes as they continue to do stupid shit. Otherwise, if you really must intervene, do it the Aristotelian way by asking them questions about the situation that lead them to conclude to your argument themselves.

Or they resent you for predicting things and start acting like you're the bad guy.

Finally i found a person in my situation, i used to pretend that im feeling more than im actually are, showing my emotions and all (just the fun ones) and when i tried show the other part of me they ALWAYS says "im not gonna talk to you bc you're mad right now" "are u mad?" "You are boring" the last is bc i used to laugh of silly things, and when i don't this happens, urgh

"When I'm silent they assume that I'm angry". Damn that true, i mean i just want to shut my mouth! Why you assume i got angry, idk man

Glad you agree! Btw which character is that? ~ Nathan

@@lovewho I think Hermione.

@@Haru-nee It's Sherlock

@@RinaDreftscott I could've sworn it's Hermione. I guess I'll look up Sherlock.

Love that! ~ Nathan

Agreed, INTPs would have to go very downhill to end up at that point ~ Nathan

As a child/young adult, I rushed to conformity because I felt that I was not likable as me, and I regretted every minute of it. I really struggled with self worth for the longest time. Maturity and acknowledging my gifts have really helped me find my place in the human world (even though I hate I have to be part of it).

I'd have to disagree with that

The idea your proposing is most likely post modernism, which has very self defeating logic

Just think of this, do you look both ways before crossing the street?

Of course you do, but what if it was your subjective truth that you didn't have to do that? Would that Tesla truck not hit you? No it would, the momentum of the car doesn't car for you subjective truth

And when you say that anything outside of math is impossible to prove, why? Why is math more provable then, let's say, Obama existing? Math permeates all sciences and regions of life, if math is the one exception, then everything if provable

An interesting way to think about a capitalist society is to view it as natural selection. The business best suited to it's environment (providing for needs like food and gas, or having the best fashion trends available, or the latest model of technology) gets to survive and proliferate. Less fit business (out of touch with public interest, overpriced, low quality, etc) fade out and could eventually die. Like Blockbuster, while Netflix is so famous there are literal memes designed solely for it. This tends to create the "fittest" and wealthiest societies because only the best business survive and get to pass on their quality to the population within public affordability. Whereas communist societies actually end up subsidizing shitty businesses the same as quality ones because they want everything to be fair. Therefore, the ambition and incentive to improve due to businesses competing is non-existent. Business become stagnant and rigid. Whereas in capitalist systems, constant competition breeds the best products. However, natural selection works by using selection factors to weed out unfavorable traits. Constant competition can keep the marketplace fair by forcing everyone to be evolving all the time. But when a monopoly emerges, it can function as an invasive species. Dominating the environment and ultimately destroying it and themselves. That's why governments can act as the selection factor of change. Forcing the environment to change with anti-trust laws and making sure the environment is in constant flux to ensure monopolies don't arise. And that's why I believe in capitalism, but still with a fair bit of government regulation. Thoughts?

@@starwarfan8342 You're amazing! No one can ever have good conversations with me :(. But I agree. We need standard regulations. For example, the Food and Drugs Act made society safer and businesses better in the long run because we would've discovered how disgusting food businesses were eventually. I definitely do not agree with communism because that doesn't breed good work ethics. If I'm working my butt off and my coworker isn't doing anything then we still get paid the same amount which makes absolutely no sense. Communism SOUNDS good, but only on paper. No communist country has been successful. Whereas capitalism has made way for healthy competition. Businesses have to stay on their feet to be the best, get the customers and get the money. I do agree that the government needs to be that selection factor of change. Business cannot be laissez faire because people will take advantage of that, in turn ruining the economy.

Whyy have you stopedd. :/ I wanna engage

@@denway4321 I haven't! Engage away haha

@@denway4321 I believe that gender is only partially socially constructed. Obviously biology exists and in my eyes, sex and gender are synonymous. But gender has a nuanced meaning of how you choose to present yourself according to society's views. Of course, the idea of the "non-binary" and the existence of more than 2 genders is complete nonsense. But there are things in our society that are masculine or feminine only because it's just a societal norm. There's nothing inherently masculine or feminine about it. Things like blue for boys and pink for girls. Long hair for women, short for men. "Girly" drinks Clothing styles Etc I'm a man, and if I went outside today dressed in a pink skirt and makeup, I would be "gendering" myself as female. Though, my biological sex is and always will be male. And that's the greatest extent to which I understand the nuances of gender-based politics. Can anyone fill in the gaps for me?

I'm an INTP also & I feel the same way

Amen! ~ Nathan

MrUbister thank you, that’s great to hear!

I do worry often that my way of viewing them is too individual to me and isn't useful to other people (or could simply be totally wrong). I try my best to make sure it matches with the observations I have about people in practice. I think I'll add your suggestions to the list of future video ideas. Thank you! ~ Nathan

@@lovewho So far your descriptions of the cognitive function seem to reflect the type's behaviors very well, like what they conceptually should. I at least see very little personal bias with your view, and besides, the cognitive functions are so often misunderstood or neglected, with a wrong focus on the "letters" that make up the type, that I welcome any attempt from someone like you to remove confusion.

I get this a lot too. When I just want to inform/educate them without any intention of making myself the “big brainy” or the genius and make them look dumb. That’s just how I show that I care enough to even bother to make an effort to explain things thoroughly and I am also open for them to correct me and will be grateful if they did.

I stopped correcting people entirely even if I'm 100% sure I know they are wrong. I feel like people can sense that though

Another ENFP wrote here: Be yourself . I my personal opinion it is correct for ENFPs, I like you really much. But in my opinion it is not good to be seen as an INTP, like for an INFJ. Our TI can be extremely harsh, to the outside and much more to the inside, I have to be very cautious to let it to the outer world. I try to take some of the ISTP and EsTP attitudes, to mild the TI and to get more SE , and it helps me a lot in my life.

Thank you!

Noted! ~ Nathan

Thank you!!

@Epic Gamer69 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RzZaKvhJNiU.html

I go from bloomer to mass shooter a few times a week

Agree miss Chantel!!

@@JonasAnandaKristiansson how have you been !? --- I personally have a hard time with being asked that question, it feels too surface. But alas...I hope you've been well.xx

Thanks! I was concerned that the black background wouldn’t work. ~ Nathan

As an intp, sensors are fine, we need some people to keep us from going too wild. Hell, istps technically are as logical as us so respect on that front. Feelers are little bitches though.

@@bonogiamboni4830 yes my dad in an ISTP and he is very logical and so intelligent. Not all sensors are dumb as some people say. I know a lot of intuitives who would seem so stupid compared to him.

@@Ignasimp funny, my dad is also an istp and while he isn't a doctor or anything, he kinda has that intp quality of knowing a little bit of everything, except in his case it's through experience and it's mostly useful stuff like geography or fixing things, while i learn by watching videos on youtube. And then there's my esfj mom, who is just happy to be alomg for the ride.

@@bonogiamboni4830 my dad studied geography XD and is a high school history teacher and school director. He has an understanding of todays politics in a global way that most people can't even start to grasp. He is also very proficient with manual stuff.

@@Ignasimp Keyword: "seem"