@@TaMeAnAmadan A surrender is not stalemate, the ira did so because it was riddled with informers from top to bottom and there for ran out of capabilities. I know of no protestant who would vote for a united Ireland and know plenty of Catholics who would vote against it, with that number rising yearly as the hard realities hit. Please explain how a united Ireland is inevitable?
Well, it took until 1998 for the meeting, but... well, about half the time, NI is not just under British rule, and Brexit has weakened Britain's hold... tl;dw inevitable given the position of the British government, Sinn Fein is now legitimate political leader.
The Day Today was so far ahead of its time. Genuinely prophetic while mocking the past and present. All this time later when I (occasionally) have to watch mainstream news... I flash right back The Day Today. Stone cold classic comedy that still packs a punch today.
@@nxnw2058 At the time it was made, TV news wasn't like this. There were still adults running the show, but Chris Morris and the rest could see what was coming. News was going to become a button pressing blast of idiocy that became more and more ridiculous while getting more and more pompous. So TDT took the existing news cliches and extrapolated them along the lines they were seeing as mental children took over the reins at these organisations. So while it mocked (then) contemporary things you recognised like Paxman, incompetent political reporters etc etc... it also wrapped in a turbo charged idiotic presentation format designed to appeal to simpletons with short attention spans and amped up the pompous pseudo-intellectual news alterts "News! News! News!". I was in my 20s when it was broadcast first - and I've watched TV news degenerate into a copy of TDT as 24 hour news proliferated. If you're looking at it now it seems like mockery of existing TV news norms... that's why it still works all these years later.
@@winsomehax Absolutely agree. I was taking A levels at the time and remember it fondly too. But I see it from a different (bleaker) perspective - I think the reason it still works so well today is because the things it mocked all those years ago have remained the same (or indeed have deteriorated as you say) and are still horribly recognisible. I think we're both fans - I'm just more of a miserable old git!
My 45 year old mother was watching it, thinking it was BBC1 (I think it was on at 9pm on Wed. evenings on BBC2, in early June) and said "The news seems very strange this evening", that's how good it was!
@@geoffplywood6112 to be honest the particular era was pretty flat and talentless, 1950s 60s was probably the golden era, Hancocks half hour ect.. .en from the ministry, the goons.
@@indyrevoly3060 Well, your King (and Queen ) and whole govt shakes their hands ? Even though the assassinated Charles uncle (Moutbatten) , they still chatted away and left Jeffry Donaldson VERY embarrassed. "All this skill and ingenuity" he referred to.(to Sinn Fein) "Ive met you before have I ?" (he said to his loyal subject ) They never bowed though. Did you notice ?
I remember Rich Hall got a round of applause on QI for that exact same joke when they were talking about dogs being trained to smuggle bombs under tanks in WW2 (which may even be where TDT got the idea for this sketch).
@vyperprism1 Its not taking the piss out of Ireland mate, that's the whole point. Its taking the piss out of the British media through exposing the ridiculousness of the agendas pursued to destroy the credibility of its enemies. Back then Adams had to talk through actors and all sorts of crazy shit, that's what it is making fun of.
Actually, it was thanks to Section 31 of Ireland's Broadcasting Act, Sinn Fein politicians were not allowed broadcast in the 1970s and '80s on Irish TV and radio. THat section has since been repealed/superceded.
@@RockyRoader I think you mean British and Northern Irish TV. The ginger guy who played Paddy in Emmerdale either dubbed Martin McGuinness or Gerry Adams. It was stupid that they weren’t allowed to speak on British TV but using a voice acting to dub and quote them word for word was ok. Fucking stupid but easy cash if you’re the lucky voice actor!
@@undeny I know but that’s the joy of comments being immortalised. I’m just curious as to who finds this particular sketch offensive. I personally have had comments replying to something I posted from as far back as 2007, not on this account though. And it was at the top of the comment section for me at least, I didn’t scroll all the way down 😂
And Margret Thatcher's government, who implemented the real life rule that their real voices were not allowed to be played, resulting in the media just dubbing them instead.
Ah I’d have to give it to Enfield, he perfected everything about Ian Paisley like his mannerisms, his unreasonable nature, and accent. That was perfect. The Gerry Adams impersonation at the end was gold also.
@@TheBomber15 it wasnt Paisley per say..it was an embodiement of unionist political emptiness. Perma- rage ..red face, twisted by hatred . A brilliant sketch.
@@londoncalling151 - I lived in West Yorkshire a few years back and the animosity and hatred for Margaret Thatcher had not abated one bit, all ex-colliery villages and towns so you can understand why.... they even celebrated when she died
@@standupstraight9691 There are out-takes from I'm Alan Partridge where he can't stop himself laughing - the video on here is titled "Alan Partridge - Chocolate Mousse Outtake".
When this came out, I harboured the vain hope that this expose of the ludicrous nature of “””the news””” would help change things. Instead, it seems to have become a template!
The thumbnail pic alone is hilarious: Coogan perfectly encapsulates the '70s hunger striker paddy chic. Being from Manchester, he probably has it in his DNA.
Mr.BritTech I must congratulate you on your well researched and educated comments. I hope that some day I may possess your exemplary command of the English language. Until then I shall continue to eat my potatoes. p.s. I thought the video was quite funny.
So was Steve Coogan. Some of the shows he jokingly pitched on I'm Alan Partridge, like a cooking competition in prisons, have gone on to be made unironically.
It's more to do with a bit of "Pride" and stuff. I come from Northern Ireland, I find it difficult to side with anyone since each side of the argument seem to have their own pathetic violent ways. N.Ireland is a great place in certain areas, but it's not worth innocent people dying over it.
This centrist sentiment is just silly, the British have colonised (and continue to colonise) Ireland for centuries but some paramilitaries kill a few hundred civilians and now Irish self-determination is something to be shunned? Obviously the Provos killing civilians is wrong but it pales in comparison to what the British have done in Ireland.
Dear Christ(doing a wheelie on a Ralliegh Chopper)I wish my dear old Da was yer to witness that wonderful & historic speech by Mr O'Conner cuz he would have laughed his shrivelled old bollocks off!(God bless him!) What's left of him now is no doubt being ignored by the worms and will simply just blend into the earth from whence he(the wonderful man he indeed was)came(Or of course he could be in Heaven with God,all the angels & saints and all the rest of em) looking down on me. (or just dead.)
