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The Death and Life of a Rib - Step by step replacing a steamed rib. 

Bothan boats - restoring Idler.
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While I wait on new rib stock i'm using the last of my lumber to install a fwd rib. Only this time the focus is solely on every aspect of fitting a replacement rib. we will cover everything from removing the old ones to shaping a blank and installing the new one. Including taking a template for the rib end. I dont discuss finishing as that is open to personal choice and thus - debate!
This is not an all inclusive tutorial, but it gives you enough info to ask the right questions for your own project.
If you want to support Idlers restoration more than you already are, please consider checking out my PATREON account:
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Thank you so much!

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Комментарии : 112   
@11bayrat
@11bayrat 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing! Very informative teaching ty
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 2 года назад
Thank you, glad you found some use from it! 👍
@beealzebub4338
@beealzebub4338 3 года назад
No worries mate, the quality is excellent now. I don't know where I'd start if I was making videos, except a camera. I really appreciate your meticulous approach working with a partially rotten boat. It starts out in a mess and ends up like a watch repair. You've got a lot of patience and determination combined with wood working skills and craftsmanship. It's a joy to watch. Thank you for showing us. Great job. 👍😎🍺
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Thanks bud, its a labour of love but its good work! Loving it! Thanks for following 👌🏻👍
@trep53
@trep53 3 года назад
Forget the production woes I’m here for the boat work. I like your illustrations and pattern method. I see progress in every step of this restoration. Once you cleaned out the bilge and removed the paint it revealed good timber’s. Good job man!
@southernprojectsyt6340
@southernprojectsyt6340 3 года назад
subbed. i'll watch a few minutes of your videos when i want a fresh reminder of why they progressed from wooden hulls long ago. to fiberglass aluminumn and steel
@jasonworles9395
@jasonworles9395 3 года назад
Your enthusiasm and work more than make up for video and audio. I'm not here for glitzy production values. If I was sat beside you in the boat I wouldn't always be able to see or hear clearly and that's what this feels like; you talking to me.
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Very kind!! Im glad you are getting the “vibe” thank you again for your support!
@wolfparty4234
@wolfparty4234 3 года назад
Hey, no need to apologize!! If we all wanted to watch a high quality video we would click on to Alec Steele’s channel!!! No offense. She does have some beautiful lines! I was checking her out when you were on the ground.🤣 Great work, keep it up and we’re all here for ya!!! Cheers!!!
@tdk1246
@tdk1246 3 года назад
Love what you are doing. Brings joy to my heart to see an old girl put back into shape and set sail again.
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Thank you so much!! 😀 mine too!
@seanparker4746
@seanparker4746 3 года назад
Thanks for the great video!
@philipblick8887
@philipblick8887 10 месяцев назад
Great video mate congratulations from Aotearoa New Zealand 👏
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 10 месяцев назад
Thanks bud! ☺️
@marcoheijboer7003
@marcoheijboer7003 3 года назад
Thx for taking the time to share your wooden boat adventure. It is inspiring me to get off my ass and start building as wel.
@passinthru4328
@passinthru4328 3 года назад
Looks like a nice shop. You can sure see what didn't work when the boat was first built. Clever rib end scribing. Nice to see the ballpeen hammer for the roving. Audio improvement appreciated!
@TravelsWithGeordie
@TravelsWithGeordie 3 года назад
Great stuff!
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Thank you, and likewise! 👌🏻
@stephensmith1779
@stephensmith1779 3 года назад
This is going to be a great series. Love it.
@almath9987
@almath9987 3 года назад
Thanks have enjoyed your videos. Great work you are doing, good to see an old boat getting a new lease of life. I sail in the west coast, firth of clyde but have a GRPboat due to maintenance time.👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿⛵
@fonhollohan2908
@fonhollohan2908 3 года назад
Simple put its just a labor of love. don't sweat it bro regarding the audio and the quality of the video's I just like watching the processes. I think you've done a pretty good job! thus far. No complaints from me.
@martyjayful
@martyjayful 3 года назад
Your doing a great job understand what your talking about ,re hanging knees etc having followed "Acorn to Arabella"and "Tally ho"...of course they seem to have an endless supply of timber or lumber over there.....well they would wouldn't they.....
@robertbowler6130
@robertbowler6130 3 года назад
Best boatbuilding video I have seen. I have to replace some cracked ribs on my 52ft HL(D) So really helpful. As for compost I had a 4 inch thick section of the stern that was like peat. Dug huge chunks of shiny back tar out of it.
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Urgh! And your heart sinks with each scoop!! Thank you for the support, im glad it could help you! 👌🏻👌🏻
@macmcdonald9347
@macmcdonald9347 3 года назад
Your getting better with each Rib. Stay safe.
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Thank you! I just hope to get abit faster with them too! 🤣
@joannemilburn6429
@joannemilburn6429 3 года назад
Love this channel easy to listen too and great watching your progress. there's always someone who will complain don't worry about it.
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Thank you so much, thats so kind! Thank you for watching!
@theoriginaljc-j
@theoriginaljc-j 3 года назад
Riveting stuff! This is by far the most interesting hands-on build.
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Thank you, thats quite a compliment! Im honoured!
@johnshillito9546
@johnshillito9546 3 года назад
Good work and good luck
@brianshields7137
@brianshields7137 3 года назад
When in preparing timber for ribs I tend to use green logs and prior to sawing I split the log so the grain orientation is predetermined prior to selecting the saw angle and orientation to the log this is to achieve select 1/4sawn timber I then dress these to required size allowing for shrinkage secure slip blocks to existing ribs steam the ribs and drive the new rib down and in from the top and then use small wedges to finish the ribs shaping , after cooling and setting the slipper blocks are removed and ribs fastened into final position this system allowed the fitting of 60 ribs in one day with only 3persons and a further 2days to fasten with 2persons ,in Australia my preference for rib material is spotted or blue gum of over 50 years growth , well done keep it up I enjoy watching your journey cheers brian
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Absolutly solid advise! Thank you 👌🏻👌🏻
@gillesgomez3091
@gillesgomez3091 3 года назад
No worries about the quality of audio and video. They are both fine in this last episode. Congratulations for this work. I can't wait to see your boat back on the water. But there is still "some" work to do of course!
@JCRyderRichardson
@JCRyderRichardson 3 года назад
Liking the new professional kit and your Blue Peter presentation style is really coming on too! 😄 This is another series I wish I’d seen before embarking on my project! Great no nonsense methods!
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Thankyou very much! 👌🏻👍👍 you know im gonna have to use their infamous line now dont you! 🤣
@JCRyderRichardson
@JCRyderRichardson 3 года назад
@@BothanboatsIdler 😄as long as you don’t use sticky back plastic or an old shoe box for any repairs...... 😂
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
🤣🤣🤣 it might come to this!!
@brentengle7302
@brentengle7302 3 года назад
I hope you can get some lumber soon and this series can continue, really like it.
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Me too! My heart fell in January when i learned of the most recent measures! I hope to get some this month though!👌🏻
@anne7868
@anne7868 3 года назад
Looks great, great audio as well
@projectjunkie8963
@projectjunkie8963 3 года назад
Great stuff! Hats off to you working through the winter weather! Just the inspiration I needed to leave the log burner and get going on my own project!
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Thank you so much for the support! ive cheated and installed the log burner in the workshop! 😜 not that i get to sit by it very often when laying under the hull but its nice knowing its there!! 🤣
@survivor4998
@survivor4998 3 года назад
Re , lighting and audio, no apology needed, everyone has to start some ware
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Very kind! Thank you! ☺️
@timschaller
@timschaller 3 года назад
Enjoying every min of this. Thanks!
@apachepaul
@apachepaul 3 года назад
Well done. You're a new favorite! Eager for new vids! I don't want any of your carrots!
@alanmorris8783
@alanmorris8783 3 года назад
Ribbed ..... for your pleasure. 😬 I’ll be here all week !
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
🤣
@harrystear9037
@harrystear9037 3 года назад
Thanks for the video. I’ve got a few cracked ribs to replace in my boat (1962 Falmouth Pilot 9 Ton) when I can get back to her, so this video is very helpful to show how the job is done in situ. Every other video of this process that I have seen (e.g. Acorn to Arabella), they have had rather fewer obstructions to work around!
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Great boats! And great project for you! Although youll have to work backwards as youll presumably still have the deck on? It can be done but just need better measurements and ideally ... no bilge stringer! Drop me a pm if you want to chat about the job,
@harrystear9037
@harrystear9037 3 года назад
@@BothanboatsIdler Luckily(?!) the deck needs to come off anyway, so that won’t be in the way, but thanks for the offer. If I come up against any problems then I’ll PM you!
@colinsvid
@colinsvid 3 года назад
Looking good, I've started to look at the ribs on my boat now! See what you've started lol
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Haha! Oh no! Just put on an extra coat of thick paint and pretend they are fine for another year!! 🤣🤣🤣
@bruceottway8369
@bruceottway8369 3 года назад
Hi watching your post from Queensland Australia, your doing well and I'm glad I put up with the audio. I'm looking forward to enjoying the ongoing pleasure of a job well done, goodonyermate and cheers.
@dizzywilliams3557
@dizzywilliams3557 Год назад
Watching from Queensland Australia as well preparing to replace ribs in my '58 Baltic trader 'Narvhal' thanx for the vids!!
@kaylybbert2120
@kaylybbert2120 3 года назад
You're doing great - I enjoy your videos!
@jacksomers6903
@jacksomers6903 3 года назад
Really enjoying what you are doing!
@daleskidmore1685
@daleskidmore1685 3 года назад
I've just replaced the keel in a fibreglass boat that had rotted out. It had turned to mud in several places where the glass encapsulating it had been holed. Right what you say about asking the right questions for your own projects. As you are going through, cleaning out the pockets, things are looking better and better. Keep well.
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Hey, fibreglass and wood seldom go well together! I hop the job went well and you het back out onto the wet stuff soon!! Im feeling pretty positive about the keel given what ive seen so far... although there are alot of things that can still go wrong! 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
@graemelliott3942
@graemelliott3942 3 года назад
Watching from Los Angeles! Excellent video! I’ve watched all of them so far. Not to tell you what to do but you need a good shop vacuum cleaner to suck all that mud, dirt and tar out.
@Superflid
@Superflid 3 года назад
Great stuff Nick.
@boooshes
@boooshes 3 года назад
Good one. Some good improvements in your video quality. Keep going. You'll get lots of suggestions about getting more and better tools and materials, etc. It's often the case that we need to or want to figure out how to move forward with what we have available. That's ok too. You've got lots of skills and at the same time will be developing many more as you process - that's great. Best to you.
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Thank you, its a learning curve for sure!!
@tatankacleary
@tatankacleary 3 года назад
Audio perfect buddy
@oleukeman
@oleukeman 3 года назад
Thank you for creating and sharing these videos. It’s very interesting. Could you possibly leave some of your longer comments up on the screen a bit longer? I can’t always read the whole comment before it disappears. Thanks.
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Absolutly, ill do so in the future, no problemo!
@douglashardman9059
@douglashardman9059 3 года назад
Looking forward to seeing the garboard come out, that is the scary part of my project..😬
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Yea, mine too! 🤣🤣 while things are quiet, waiting on the rib stock, im very tempted to get stuck into that myself! Stay tuned! It may make its way into the next next vid 👌🏻
@williamcantalamessa5231
@williamcantalamessa5231 3 года назад
Good morning from southwest Florida. We just jumped on board your channel. Looks interesting
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Glad to have you on board! 🤙🏻 thank you!
@sstem2169
@sstem2169 3 года назад
I am really enjoying your episodes and am not at all put off by your learning the ropes with the video and audio. I have seen tremendous improvement in these few short weeks, and have no doubt you will get better and better at it with time! My only complaint is no pipe music in this episode!!! Even if it's just you! I thought you were pretty good on your pipes, far better than I could ever be!!! :-D
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Haha very kind! Yes, i had some copyright issues with the music, im looking into it and will get them back on asap!
@davidbrosch2434
@davidbrosch2434 3 года назад
Definitely an improvement.
@peugeotsport5
@peugeotsport5 3 года назад
Another great episode- 👍👨🏻☘️
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Thank you so much!
@jdoo2252
@jdoo2252 3 года назад
Fascinating. Perhaps you could contact the "tally ho" rebuild channel and get a shout out.
@danbradley1943
@danbradley1943 3 года назад
You are doing right by her. She will be skipping over the waves totally solid when you're done.
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
I hope so! 🤞🏻🤞🏻
@joshuadunn882
@joshuadunn882 3 года назад
@11:03 - These words have never, ever been said before when talking about an old wooden boat......😂😂😭
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
🤣 “plan for the worst hope for the best” 😜
@joshuadunn882
@joshuadunn882 3 года назад
@@BothanboatsIdler Very good motto....... Great stuff by the way. I'm looking forward to seeing how it comes along. When are you planning to relaunch her? Or is it just "she'll be finished when she's finished"?
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Im aiming to get her wet at some point in the 2022 season. But im aware this might stretch to the 2023, depending on 1001 things. But i still hope that without anymore wood delays she can be relaunched next year, 🤞🏻🤞🏻 Thank you for your interest and support for the project!
@joshuadunn882
@joshuadunn882 3 года назад
@@BothanboatsIdler Aaaww that's a great target. Funny you should mention about wood because I built a small bandsaw mill during lockdown and I'd be happy to help out with supplying some unusual cuts of wood, at no cost ofcoarse. The only thing is, is that I live in Tuscany, Italy.....so.....transport might be an issue 😕
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Oh wow, that is very exciting and very kind of you! Well done too! If im honest i dont have a clue how shipping lumber internationally works, especially after this Brexit stuff! Very kind of you to offer and i will bear this in mind for the future! Thank you so much!
@captaintoyota3171
@captaintoyota3171 3 года назад
God if i could only find a decent (affordable) wood boat in midwest USA.
@wjewell7464
@wjewell7464 3 года назад
love the channel keep up the good work!
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Thank you, ill do my best! 👌🏻👍
@MikeAG333
@MikeAG333 3 года назад
You'd be doing yourself a huge favour by investing in a bandsaw. You need something 14" or over to get a machine big enough to tension a reasonable blade for ripping oak, but they're on Ebay every week for just a few hundred pounds. Trying to rip nicely with a hand held circular saw and the wood in a vise is just making any easy job difficult. Anyway, keep up the good work. (Oh, and those things you were kneeling on are not knees, they're floors).
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Sound advise, i was thinking of a table saw with fence for the “rib party” i thought that would give a cleaner edge? I have a wee bandsaw but its not up to the job of milling 30+ ribs!!
@MikeAG333
@MikeAG333 3 года назад
@@BothanboatsIdler I'd certainly point you towards a bandsaw rather than a tablesaw. For boatbuilding, where you've curved work to do later on, the bandsaw will be infinitely more useful (and it's a much safer tool, too). It will rip really cleanly with the correct blade. Come and join us on Woodhaven 2 for top advice on machinery and other workshop-related stuff.
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
@@MikeAG333 Nice one, thanks for the tip. i'll look into it! ill check you out, can you send a url? your link take me to your site and typing Woodhaven 2 into the search bar brings up music videos! :D
@jacilynns6330
@jacilynns6330 3 года назад
Tree roots for knees, often overlooked. For those confused the thick pieces of timber going down the sides are frames. The ribs, also called intermediate frames, are smaller and tend to crack for three reasons. First they are dry but under tension and get whacked when cold it shatters them. Too dry and instead of shrinking they crack. Finally someone puts a support there again when dry. If soaked with linseed oil non boiled, they tend to stay supple and lose tension over years. The rabbit, rabbet or rebate, is cut into the stern post and keel/keelson so that planking stock sits in almost with a 90 degree edge but follows the shape of the frames. Note between stern and keel is usually a stop water( dowel hammered in to swell up)in rabbet or close too. The stern is bolted to the keel via the stern knee also called foreknee. There also should have been some floors between the stern and the interior planks I forgot name of. Floors are piece of wood or metal that join three things, frame to frame on opposite side and keel. They also connect to deck beamshelf and stern as well as middle beam shelf and stern..same in bow. Note stern is rear now is front. Older fishing boats tended to have lots of oil from fish so areas tended to get well oiled.
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Good thinking re the roots! Thanks
@exiplast7349
@exiplast7349 3 года назад
Great sketching abilities with those mitts you call hands. I have small hands and can hardly read my own handwriting never mind draw a sketch or a straight line
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
🤣🤣
@sprezzatura8755
@sprezzatura8755 3 года назад
Beautiful work. Just curious have you considered using plastic frames? Have you seen the videos from Tips From A Shipwright?
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Ive seen the technique, i admit for now at least im keen to keep her as “wooden” as possible, but its a great idea! 👌🏻
@robertbowler6130
@robertbowler6130 3 года назад
Where do you get the red lead powder and pine tar. Just a note on paint inside the hull. I have found old paint really holds the damp. Scrape it off and the woid dries in a day or two. Makes me very wary of painting inaccessible places. Perhaps oil would better.
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
I agree 👍 Both are from ebay! 😂 all be it the red lead powder is from a chandler selling on ebay. The pine tar is from a horse supplier; its the same stuff just a fraction of the price in a “boaty” shop!
@robertbowler6130
@robertbowler6130 3 года назад
@@BothanboatsIdler I see it. Thanks. I have an old pot of Stockholm Tar and I was told you couldnt buy it anymore. Dont believe everything you read I suppose. Present company excepted of course. 😉
@davidwoods7720
@davidwoods7720 3 года назад
Thank so much for sharing.Do you retain the tar and reuse it?
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Im hoping to reuse it, at the moment i see no reason i couldnt, as it s very clean and still mailable when warm... watch this space!
@markrutlidge5427
@markrutlidge5427 3 года назад
Is the design of the boat "idler" cause its name on the bow is " caution unstable load" , which i admit it is an unusual name for a boat howerer as the saying goes "different strokes for different folks". 😂😁😂😁
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
🤣🤣
@quarlow1215
@quarlow1215 3 года назад
I guess you'd have to call yourself a bit of a "rib tickler". Lol
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
🤣
@kencochrane8795
@kencochrane8795 3 года назад
Isn’t that called a frame?
@BothanboatsIdler
@BothanboatsIdler 3 года назад
Hey Ken, a frame in this case is a station frame, which are the larger sawn “ribs”. The lighter built steamed ribs dont function as a frame to hold the shape of the boat but more to stabilise and strengthen the planking. Frames have more of a structural role.
@kencochrane8795
@kencochrane8795 3 года назад
@@BothanboatsIdler Roger that!
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