Pretty spot on, I think Drill is always going to have a strong core fanbase cause it speaks to people who are really living that life in the trenches and want that sound. but Knucks and CC are deffo going to have more mainstream success, I also think Russ and Digga have enough diversity and talent to stay relevant with thier music.
Yeah 100%, almost every sub-genre will carry with it a core fan base for time. I mean, I still listen to older drill despite me saying it’s dead. It’s not like I don’t have respect for it, I just think the sound has been rinsed. Knucks is different class man. Agree on the Russ front too, he’s definitely finding his niche outside of that harder drill sound
Amen! What happened to the albums that would have everything from soul/jazz samples with powerful real life lyrics , dance floor bangers, bedroom love jams, and a few funny/interesting interludes all beautifully linked together by an artist who is taking you on a journey through all the emotions of life?
Loved the video. My favourite drill rappers are Am X Skengdo. I love drill rappers from their prime era too like Harlem Spartans Bside 30 Loski Digga CB etc..
@@RIDEMusicYT Hey i agree on a lot the points on this if you look around the new drill comment sections it's either nostalgia mongers or some hater hating on sample/new drill chief keef and those chicago guys started but modern US drill is just washed up ass trap with gang signs and uk drill is just a bunch of guys in ballys trying to be roadmen don't get me wrong i love pure drill but it's washed up and new uk songs like popular loner showed that the uk has different audiences sample drill is not for everyone but it has that viral factor that makes it appealing to foreign and other uk audiences anyway great vid
Drill in a nutshell I'm a badman I'm a skengman I'm a shotta I'm real I'm road i run man down i run my blade i wear trapstar i wear bronze watches Rinse & Repeat
Knucks is a beast for sure. Alpha Place is a masterpiece and as someone who came up on early grime and UK hip hop, he is 100 percent an artist but the older heads. That being said I wouldn't put him in the drill category at all. I think Tion should be mentioned as he took the drill sound and turned into music for the clubs/women. Which is an age old recipe in hip hop to be huge.
drill is definitely dying out, but it may resurface later down the line similarly to how uk drill came years after chicago drill. i think someone who ha been innovating for a while in drill is abra cadabra - mixing melodies with the purest drill energy. i agree with your picks tho, they all make sense
I agree for the most part but there are some rappers keeping it going. Headie One, M1llionz, Teeway, Meekz, Unknown T and the 98s have been evolving the sound. People said grime was dead over 10 years ago and yet the scene is still evolving into new space. Commercially, it will die out because record labels have over saturated the market but the artists that actually care about music and not money will continue to keep it alive.
Yeah I feel what you’re saying. It’ll be interesting to see how we look back on drill in the next 5/10 years. Like we hold our grime ‘legends’ on such a pedestal now, I don’t ever see someone like Headie for example getting the same respect as Ghetts or Kano. It just feels different, idk. I get you though, it’s not dead dead… but there’s a hell of a lot of mediocre clones in the genre.
@@RIDEMusicYT oh I definitely disagree here. I think in 5 to 10 years time, Digga, Headie, Unknown T, etc will be remembered as pioneers of the most successful musical export this country has had in years. The impact of some of these artists has objectively been massive. Headie has a song with Drake, 1011's Next Up has been compared to Talkin the Hardest and the 98s are the most coherent rap collective we've seen since So Solid Crew. There's a reason why the old grime legends have been linking up with the drill generation. They respect what the youngers have managed to achieve.
More or less man, that’s the trouble. It isn’t the first genre to be like that though, a lot of that noughties hip-hop was the same, and look at indie rock. All the same stuff.
Are we really saying Polo G operates in the same genre as Zone 2? Honestly, I don't see the resemblance between London and Chicago drill music. I think they're completely different genres with the same name.
They’re totally different, the sounds are very different. But I feel both are on the same path of being over saturated and filled with clones I guess. Everyone saying the same stuff over the same beats. But fr, I just need to target both the U.K. and US for RU-vid purposes, give me a break bro 🙏😂
@@RIDEMusicYT oh this criticism wasn't specifically aimed at you, lots of people group them together. To be honest, since 2017, I haven't even been following US music that closely because our stuff is just better. Like every year I find 10-15 albums from our scene and stick with them. The US is way more guilty of pumping out manufactured music. Blame Lil Wayne for the quantity > quality business model because he started it.
Every drill beat sounds the same...every artists chats the same shite, it had a good run....grime lasted so long because the beats sound different depending on the producer plus most grime mc had hes own style of spitting.......central Cee is good but I wouldnt call him drill.......I Fcuk with knucks though
Yeah fully, I’m just saying he’s definitely taken a piece of drill and used it in his style if you get me, especially some of his flows and even low key his beats still occasionally have that skippy tempo. But yeah him and DC are killing that new chill, almost story telling stuff
Sleepy Hallow is dead out here too. NY Drill on the internet is massive but in real life the country is not rocking with it. Shit Fivio flopped and his album had a Ye feature off the heels of Donda again the US market is not welcoming to Drill as much as the internet would have you think and coupled with Kendrick dropping over here the sound may be taking a massive switch.
Drill is rinsing samples at the moment and it's reliant on using nostalgia to sell it imo. Some of them are still well made don't get me wrong but it's gonna get old fast.
Feel like SL could crossover if you consider him a drill artist, that smooth laid back flow talking crud over more laid back drill beats makes him unique imo, m1llionz imo is in a similar bracket too
I agree with what Knucks the next big rapper but he's never really done drill. It's part of the reason why he stands out too. I don't like central Cees music buts it's kinda like when Chip and Tinie done the same thing but he's not a bad rapper though and makes a decent collection of music And I agree what your saying about Digga but you got guys like K Trap, LD and loski who are still trying to do the pure drill but the pure stuff isn't only profitable to a level with the size of the UK Great video as always though keep up the good work
I think with Knucks what I was trying to say was there’s a clear influence there, in some of his flows and even low-key on some of the more skipper beats he jumps on. It’s definitely not drill, but he’s taken elements and melded them into his own thing. Yeah that’s a good comparison man, he’s like 2022’s U.K. pop rap I guess. Pop drill? I’m a huge fan of Loski you know, I think his debut studio album back in 2020 was criminally underrated. The guy really tried to show he had range, sampled people like The Streets and Bashy. It was crazy, but people just didn’t want it. Where as Digga seems to have broken that glass ceiling and made it semi-mainstream without compromising too much on his gritty sound if you get me?
@RIDE Music He's definitely taken from it but I think it's probably hard to not be drill influenced now as a rapper with so much of it around but also there's not many good rappers in the UK so he stands out easier Yeah exactly that but he can actually rap though I did really like that and he made all the right moves but he's been through it in life and lost alot (Street shit-possible video idea) and I think that's stopped him but it's like that album came too soon but Digga is more out there and weirdly enough a likable character so the main stream will buy into it it seems like but he's got the perfect mix
Big fan, it’s in a weird place, a couple of superstars but it’s kind of went back out of the mainstream and ‘underground’ again to an extent. If you get me?
He’s an interesting one. Potentially in the same category as Digga, as in he still quintessentially drill but experiments now and again? What do you reckon?
bro drill is not dead... digga d, central cee, tion wayne, fivio foriegn and k flock are some of the biggest rappers... also m1llionz, nchcks, and others are on the rise!
It’s always just the same old trap beats too it seems like In new songs. They feel recycled. It’s like the only thing you can be in hop hop is a gangster because it’s “trendy” mfs ain’t themselves anymore and when they are they get called corny or lame. People don’t even try to branch out to sub genres and different genres as a whole either. A couple artists to name a few people like 350heem, City morgue (check out sosmulas solo tape it’s heat), analogical tha poet, and Montè, I respect more as artists/Mcees because they’re doing their own thing.
I think you're giving Cench too much credit here. The pop drill wave was started by Russ and Tion Wayne. Russ even called it Crashment and the use of catchy hooks and danceable music could tenuously be linked with bashment. Cench just had a lot of money behind him promoting his music on social media, getting him deals with Trapstar, banners across London etc. He's low key an industry plant because, whilst he has been rapping for years, his older music is completely different.
Idk about that man, I really don’t think he’s an industry plant, nor do I think he sounds anything like Russ or Tion. I know what you mean though, they got a number 1 on drill, can’t argue with that. But Central Cee’s stuff still feels so much more accessible to the causal listener. Maybe I am giving him too much credit. Mega marketing though on his part, he’s the most followed U.K. rapper on Insta if I’m not mistaken. That’s a crazy fact in itself.
@@RIDEMusicYT Yeah Cench is the natural progression on what Russ and Tion started because he doesn't have any official ties to the streets. Less so Russ but Tion kind of has a responsibility to represent Edmonton and not alienate himself from where he came from.
I don’t think Central Cee makes drill at all: drill has to be about drillings. His beats are commercial and the lyrics are commercial trap BS. He’s a pop artist backed by a label and he’s gonna be the downfall of the “drill” genre if people decide that drill is what he’s making. I don’t mind his ish but call it what it is: pop rap, not at all drill. He ain’t got a single drill song 😂
Another thing is USA drill rap will always be more relevant than any other form of drill rap even though it originated in the UK please take that statement with salt and pepper and use it as you wish
Knucks is very far from a drill artist. He's been a producer for years and was rapping before drill got popular and it was never drill. The tempo in his flow is from grime
I didn't say he was a drill rapper man, just saying he uses elements of drill, like his flow, within his melodic stuff. And if you listen to his old stuff it is pretty much drill, in an American sense anyway.
IMO hip hop as a whole is slowly declining more and more to a spiraling vapid death. I mean there’s no more originality anymore. I mean fuck people are praising yeat and he’s just a white carti clone. You got drill rap for example having the same beats but a melody or harmony is changed (idc what you say deal with it drill nerds). I miss early 2000’s 90’s hip hop and I miss the SoundCloud era of hip hop. People actually tried. Sad thing is I said miss because originality is dead in the form of hip hop as a whole
The problem with UK rap is the fact that you guys are only known for a drill rap if you evolve with the times and actually educate yourselves on United States wrap then y’all would be more of a global conglomerate with wrap as a whole if that makes sense? A.k.a. “ evolve or die”
Central Cee sucks like is said most of these so called new Drill Rappers Suck I can only listen to old school Drill like 1011 not CGM as soon as they changed there name there music was not the same I know they had legal trouble but Harlem Spartans 67 B Side 150 86 28s Moscow 17 12 World Zone 2 Block Six Nito NB this was to me is Drill I don't think we will see those days again it's going to commercial I have no problem with making money but it's when the music changes for the bad UK Old School Drill All The Way now the whole World is taking the UK Drill Beats it might of started in Chicago But the UK took the Genre and ran with it to bank and the Whole World
Yeah I see what you’re saying, I still like that ‘old school’ stuff too, there’s a place for it, but c’mon, there’s been enough made. Like, there’s nothing more to be said, it all sounds about the same. At least these dudes are trying to bring something new to the table. We can have both 🙏😂
