The Death Knell For Undertale Was Its Fandom 

It always astounds me that people who claim to love something so much can so thoroughly miss the point of it.

No amount of garbage fans will undermine just how important that game is to me, and it was unavoidable, the bigger the fandom is the worse are its inhabitants on average, that's just how it is everywhere

I still love it, despite everything, because Toby made something special. I'm not gonna let the Fandom dictate something that moved me like Undertale. The fans are a path of Undertale, but they aren't the whole.

Undertale is a FANTASTIC game! And I'm very happy I never talked about it on the internet with anyone

Maybe I missed something, but Undertale seems far from dead from my point of view. Yeah, the fanbase can be cringe, but the game itself is still very popular. The Undertale and Deltarune fandom are one and the same and separating them like you did is a little odd. I've never really engaged with the fandom aside from a theory video here and there, but I've never gotten the impression that "Undertale is dead."

5:45 Reminds me when this Let's Player I'm a fan of was doing an LP for EarthBound. He likes to do voices for the characters, ad-lib his own dialogue and even sometimes insert small edited skits into his videos. The fandom did not appreciate that. They accused him of "ruining" the characters and playing the game wrong. He also said that while he enjoyed the game he had some complaints with it (complaints that I agree with) and he also named the characters after characters from the other games he played on the channel. A few episodes in, he addressed the criticisms and he sounded pretty disheartened. People were shitting on him for applying his usual sthick to EarthBound. Thankfully he didn't end up changing anything about the LP and I feel like people who had an issue with the way he played the game dropped off the series at that point. But then he did Mother 3 (a game which he absolutely loved), did his usual sthick again and he got shat on _again_ . So yeah, let people have fun. Let people have their own interpretation of the game.

I played through it the first time in 2020, having not really looked into it much at all and I freaking loved it! I'm so glad I wasn't part of the initial crowd so I can enjoy it now without all the baggage

Never forget when MatPat gave the Pope a copy of undertale

This opened my eyes to the pros and cons of gatekeeping

Isn’t this every big fandom? I agree with you all the way through but I’m pretty sure this is any fandom that’s large, undertale’s fandom has its problems sure but there’s also some great moments to be had in there as well imo

I was fortunate enough to dodge most of the fandom when the game first came out and actually played it for the first time last year completely blind. I loved my experience with it, so glad I didn’t have it ruined, but sad so many others did their first time playing.

The golden age of the fandom was peak I wish I could go back in time to experience that again

I’m in my 30s and a strong undertale fan for Toby’s writing and musical prowess. Got my wife into it and she was detached from all that mess so she was able to have fun with it

"gatekeeping is bad! 😡" "shipping underage or related characters is BAD!! 😡" the hypocrisy is astounding

Undertale is an incredible game, glad I was able to avoid the fandom stuff.

It didn't help when I'd go to a stream of a new person playing and "fans" were toxic as hell.

Man when it came out i was young but watching jacksepticeye play it it was almost magical and i fell in love and i gotta say being an internet recluse while adoring the game really helps avoid the crazy stuff so my memories of it are like nostalgic good old days.

The only thing I knew of this game was from all the R34 artworks that showed up everywhere. People really liked the Goat Mom

I don't care about what the fans think or what fan creations are made. I still do like this game for what it does on its own, and its messages are really strong to me. And making your own opinion is the best thing you can do.

Never got into the fandom, did get into some of the animations. Really enjoyed Undertale and have wanted to play deltarune. Still really don't know anything of delta outside of spamton though lol

Good video. Only thing I'd disagree with is the overall thought that Undertale was killed and obliterated by the fanbase so quickly and became more of an afterthought that most people would like to discard, going from massive into something tiny and forgotten in a heartbeat. It was a much slower process and also isn't entirely true. The Undertale fanbase did bring a lot of controversy, did make people shy away from the game or hate it outright, or just plainly gave it a bad rep to some extent, but I would argue the fanbase had more positive influence than negative, and brought in a much larger audience than Undertale could have gotten without it. And the game lasted for a few years in terms of high popularity. Blowing up in late 2015, gaining mainstream popularity and even reaching the pinnacle of the industry for a time in 2016, retaining that popularity until 2017 where the fanbase expanded more and more, slowly fizzling out but still garnering a huge loving fanbase and good statistics throughout 2017, and reaching near-irrelevancy into 2018 (on the scale of video games as a medium, not within its fandom, the fandom stayed strong and is still doing just fine with millions of active fans) but still retaining a solid, large fanbase, lasting long enough to be followed by its successor, Deltarune. Though I doubt Deltarune will even have a slim chance of reaching the insane heights Undertale managed to peak at, I'm certain it will be an amazing game with plenty of deserved attention.

Woah, I had no idea about any of this. I went in pretty much blind about a year ago, just knowing it was a well-loved game, but never had any interaction with the fandom. Had a brilliant time with it!

Yeah I had decided to play the game off-stream for the reasons covered. I love Undertale and playing it privately first allowed me to fully appreciate it

Wow. It’s insane to hear this about a game. Tbh, I literally JUST bought the game on sale and NOW about to play it for the very first time. Better late than never! Great video btw

People only see Sand undertale11!!1, or it's the toxic reputation it got from 2016. It's a bit of a shame that out of all the talented stuff that happened in the undertale community *THIS* is what people will remember.

This video feels like it came out in 2016. While it's true that certain weirdos were overly rude to people trying to assert one way of playing the game, characterizing that as a "majority" of the fanbase and then claiming that it killed Undertale are both pretty bold, unsubstantiated claims. Of course a game that came out in 2015 and has only gotten minor updates since doesn't have the same size fanbase as it did back then. I see Deltarune fan content all the time all over the web, though, because much of the fanbase is obviously now focused on the new thing related to Undertale, a game they still love. Further, Undertale actively tries to present itself as a game where your choices affect an actual world and reflect back on you as a player in some way, so Toby Fox specifying that Deltarune is disconnected from that world completely makes sense within that artistic vision. Some fans took that too far and that's not cool, yeah, but it was still the vision all along for them to think of the game as something like a real place. Undertale is a beloved classic, it's not "dead"

wtf are you talking about.... undertale is going really strong!!!!

Meanwhile I'm just happy I got to send Temmie to collage.

I wasn’t a fan of the game in 2015 because I didn’t know it existed then it was only I became a fan when my RU-vidr friend Sceptile720 played fnf undertale (it’s a good game to play you should try it out if you haven’t) and that when I started researching the game itself and since then I’ve been watching videos on the the game and I played the demo of it and I’m a fan of the game now.

The UNDERTALE fandom is still alive in 2023, but not as much as it was in 2015/16/17. Deltarune's second chapter with all it's AUs really overshadowed the constant upkeep of the fandom too.

I avoided this game due to the squeaky wheel/ minute fandom you described.

Idk why but Undertale is one of those game that somehow got the main demographic where teenagers who are a bit edgy then with some snowball effect turn the entire thing into pure edge fuel or “etc” Not really sure why cause some game just happen in the right place but wrong time. Maybe because undertale take itself a bit too seriously. Deltarune on the other hand absolutely mocks the player for being too serious which I’m all in for it. The pie is such a nice middle finger to those edge lore while being a funny meme.

Great video, I knew the game was very popular but had no idea so many of the fans were so deranged. It's a little unsettling.

It's not really dead it's just purges of weirdos and malicious and hateful people.

The thing about fandom is that you're always going to come across toxicity, especially when something gets extremely popular. I was aware of Undertale when it came out, but had no idea how crazy things had gotten until recently, when I finally decided to try the game for myself. Honestly, I think it's fantastic, and it makes me sad to hear that the volatility of the fandom soured the experiences of so many people. There are few things I hate more in fandom than gatekeeping. I wonder though if it's too much to say the game is dead. Maybe it's not as massive and loud as it was a couple years ago, but I've still seen a lot of love for the game around, and plenty of passionate fans are still making fanworks to this day.

Oh I love Undertale and Deltarune, but I don't engage with theories and the wider fandom. Some of y'all are crazy.

Yeah I avoided this game cause of the fandom too…

Its a good video, aside the assumption that its the "Majority of the Fandom" acting out. No, it wasn't. When you have a fandom of millions, that toxic 1% becomes thousands of voices.

@3:52 well I don't know about that the Fandom even back then seemed to have a strong hateboner for us players.

We need one for Stadia.

Lore of The Death Knell For Undertale Was Its Fandom momentum 100

I played it when I was playing things like sally face and night in the woods, as though it was the 'godfather' of that type of RPG genre, I wondered then that it had fallen -in- and was more like binding of isaac and not enough like that, calling it 'isaac-father' in 2020, I wondered there could be undertale face. Hey ho maybe there can be.

This was a good game but the fandom went crazy and did it things that I’m not gonna mention because it’s too much

7:32 I never saw that as a response to the fandom. I’m more saw that as lore so that we know not to make connections

Stop using spoiled bunches to judge an entire orchard, the fandoms fine, it has its flaws but seriously what online community doesn't.

I say nowadays is the best time to play undertale because nobody talks about it anymore so you wont see any spoilers or something cringy about it lmao

When I played Undertale for the first time, luckily I did not find any people who insisted I play the game in a specific way. It was still when the game was popular but not too long after release. I really enjoyed playing Undertale and I don't care what the fandom does, the game is still amazing. But I also really hated people coming in with remarks that are hints to what's gonna happen. I really don't like people spoiling directly or indirectly >.> That's what made me so angry

Undertale is an incredible game, once you can break past the surface of the fandom to actually go and play it. Don't abide by some idiots pushing community rules, disregard the fan content, just play the game, and see where it takes you, without spoiling yourself, without external opinions, just you, and a game free for you to explore as you please. After seeing plenty of minor references pop up over the years, that was how I approached it when I sat down and played it, and while I did look into wiki pages towards the end to get a better understanding of a couple things I overlooked, didn't understand, or just plain missed out on, I thoroughly enjoyed what was there on offer, doing several playthoroughs of it because of the curiosity I had towards the different paths you could take throughout the story. The only path I never managed to successfully play was the Genocide path; there was always some character that I missed, and thus Sans never showed up in the end, even when I backtracked and looked as hard as I could for what I may have missed. Even though I played the game far beyond its prime, I found it a thoroughly enjoyable experience. Granted, I also managed to avoid spoiling myself on it for the entire five or six years I dodged it, so that may have helped it be a fresher experience for me than it otherwise would have been.

I love the game and my love isn't diminished because I never engaged in the obnoxious fandom spaces. Sadly, people I know who would love the game got sick of the type of people the fans tended to be and it soured their opinion on the game. Even a few streamers who would absolutely love the game have no desire at all to play it because so many people have bothered them about it. I blame Tumblr and other terminally-online weirdos. It's fine to like something a lot and to come up with tweaked fan-universes, but calm down and leave people alone.

Honestly I love undertale,but I’ve never really tried to get into the weird fan stuff. Like it’s an amazing game and it’ll always have a place in my heart. But I love ONESHOT way more. It honestly makes me so sad and happy that while oneshot isn’t as popular,because than I feel like something like that would happen to it as well.

5:28 Usually, I don't say "it's just a game", but SERIOUSLY, ITS JUST A GAME oml

I'll never forget the peak levels of cringe achieved during this era of the internet. Fandoms were the nail in the coffin of so many otherwise fine games, movies, and shows.

I have been a fan since I 1st played it back when it came out. But I also avoid Fandoms in general like a plague, they are one of the most toxic things one can cross in a civilized society. And to be blunt, anyone THAT attacked to fiction characters needs serious psychological help.

Cannot believe you didn’t mention MatPat giving a copy to the pope. Literally can’t stand GameTheory for how stupid that channel became

I got my Steam Deck last month, and Undertale was the first game I beat on it. I knew that the game was loved, but I had no idea about the ironically aggressive fandom. I had a good time with it, and I moved right on to the next game. Fandom works in mysterious ways!

yeah the fandom did turn me off at the time but I do still wanna play it in the future as its still a good game i think any gamer has had to learn to completely block out a games terrible cringy fandom and just enjoy the games no string attached but yes it has to have one of the worst fandoms around and like the sonic and fnaf fandoms you very do just have to avoid them and focus on enjoy the games that interest you

So many kinds of fandoms are hit with this really weird bit of abuse. Another great example of a community ruining what it loves is Steven Universe. I personally don't like Steven Universe, I don't really think it has the correct messages it was going for being applied in a manner that actually helps kids and some teens grow into better people (this is from watching like two seasons of the show and taking a glance at some interviews of what the producers were going for). But just because I don't personally like Steven Universe and what it has to say doesn't mean others don't, and the community grew too big, too fast. This particular community of fans quickly grew into an extremist politically left ideology where if you try to critique something, fans would outright attack you anywhere they could. Up to the point that the fanartist Zamii attempted suicide (though did re-emerge after a couple days while in a hospital after the attempt, I believe). And they attacked this fanartist for drawing a particular character in a partial image as "too thin." This wasn't the first time she was attacked, but it was very close to the last time. She was continuously under fire from the community and not a single person as I'm aware would ever come out with a truthful apology. This is just one example of MANY fandoms ranging from the nerdiest of Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, gaming franchises like Mass Effect and Halo, and continuing to prevail into the simplest of even hobbies like makeup artistry, graphic design, writing, you name it. Toxicity in fandoms will always be around, critiquing media becomes a wildfire of people taking critiques personally and then retaliating with dozens of times of unnecessary commentation, threats, and the like. If I were to go on an essay that critiques the sequel trilogy of Star Wars, about how the movies only connect by characters mentioned to the other two trilogies and how it disrespects a lot of the source material and the reasonings for the other two trilogies existing, I would immediately be bashed by sequel trilogy fans for being sexist, racist, homophobic, and the like and I would probably never see peace again. I would probably be blacklisted from subreddits favoring the sequel trilogy, blocked on twitter, facebook, any social media with groups that enjoy the sequel trilogy, whatever. Yet, I would likely never see someone from that side of the internet say "Yeah, you're right, they're flawed movies." What I would receive at base is the response of "Okay but the prequel trilogy sucks too" or "well Luke Skywalker is a Mary Sue if Rey is" in an attempt to deflect legitimate criticism. (And the opposite is also true, there's toxic fans who downright threaten people who just like the sequel trilogy just because its flashy and lacks substance, people who don't really care and are barely defending the sequel trilogy. Both sides exist and yet - to me - they're the same kind of toxic) And I haven't even gotten to fanart, fanfiction, fan-animation, all kinds of fan-media that fill every crack of the internet from sites like DeviantArt and Archive of our Own all the way to Quotev and back to the tops like Twitter. People are so desperate for the shows they love to be perfect and ever-lasting that they forget to critique and separate themselves from the art, artist, and the reality of the real world. People need to learn a very important skill when it comes to the stories we see on media. The ability to separate our subjective view of a form of media versus our objective view. And this - in particular - can be difficult to articulate. So allow me to explain what I mean using the example of "My Favorite Movie Is..." In my real life, one movie I HAVE to watch every year is The Fox and the Hound. It is my favorite movie of all time. I much prefer Disney's classic 2D style of animation, along with all the life lessons some of those movies once provided. Fox and the Hound has a huge life lesson, that no matter what happens, life moves on. But that doesn't mean our memories of the good times have to fade. Our friends made us who we are today, and even when the days come that we grow older and separate, we can still look back and say "I remember that friend, he made my childhood awesome." The plot of the story is a lot like this, we see Todd and Copper start as pups, being friends, making promises that at first seemed reasonable. But their paths diverge, they go their separate ways due to forces beyond their control. They fight until the point that they both realize there isn't a point, that things happen. Todd is the titular main character who drives the plot of trying to be friends, until he learns that he can't just do that. Yet, even though this is my favorite movie, I wouldn't dare ever give it a 10/10. I wouldn't put Fox and the Hound up there with the likes of movies like The Godfather or shows like Breaking Bad, which use their characters in amazing and distinct ways that propel those medias to be some of the best they could ever strive to become. Fox and the Hound is not a perfect movie, nor could it ever have been. My point is that while I can still love something, I can critique it. I can critique the animation, the plot, the stylization and choices made throughout production. I won't vehemently defend Fox and the Hound to my dying breath against any and all criticism. In fact, I welcome it. I want all forms of media to be better than they were last year, and the year before. I want the next Star Wars movie to be thought through and not rushed. I want The Last of Us' show to be a masterpiece from start to finish. I want video games to tell the tales they want in a way that audiences can digest in a nuanced way. The fact of the matter is that the extreme parts of any fandom are fueled way too often, and they will almost forever burn until the only thing left is the ashes of the product they loved so much. Undertale thrived until the community used its own game as fuel, and now the game is basically dead. To the point that Deltarune has been forgotten about by a lot of people, including myself. Star Wars almost hit the point of no return, another bad show, another bad movie, and I think the majority of the community would've just moved on, leaving behind nothing but the remnants of sequel trilogy lovers and haters to fight and fight and fight until the IP became non-profitable. To the point that Steven Universe slowly destroyed itself, lasting just long enough to finish its major arcs (as far as I'm aware, again, not my specialty). Stop deifying your media. Start critiquing and wanting for better. Art cannot be perfected, but it can always be better achieved in some way. TLDR: Fandoms suck ass, people need to separate subjective and objective views of a media (which is difficult and not 100% possible for 99.99999% of the population), and we need to be able to critique media without being attacked for it.

I watched a play through in 2015 or 2016 thought it was really good. I still think of it as a really good game. I watched the other alt endings and some of the other highlighted choices so I could see what was different. I hadn't heard anything about it for a while and figured there were still lots of fans of the game but didn't know about all the negative stuff. So when you say Undertale is dead, I really hope that isn't true. I hope people can enjoy it, like I did, without having to look online at all the negative stuff.

*Watches video while coding UT fangame*

Matt McMuscles is going to sue you.

I don't think I've played undertale since 2017ish? I think I just did the main 3 endings and I didn't really feel the game itself had much replay value for me

I’ll never not love undertale, no matter how much the fanbase as a whole seems to be toxic there are people who just love the game for what it is

Undertale and Deltarune never died for me, I just hyper cringe whenever I see people trying to backseat others who are playing for the first time.

I love Undertale, I hate the fandom. Too much bad behavior has been left excused. I've seen literal crimes forgiven and victims bullied/blamed. From proshipping, gr00mers, p3d0s, and in my case a $ta|ker, I cannot associate with them. So while I enjoy it quietly in my own private home, this is a community I have had literal safety and hara$$ment issues with.

what the heck is this? There was no "downfall" The only people I've ever interacted with who played the game were good people. I've never seen any of these supposed "terrible fans" and I never bothered looking for them as well. This is stupid. It would be like saying "the toxic furries were the downfall of the furry fandom" yeah nothing about the original is going away. I've seen more people whine about the fandom then actually seeing bad people. The world is a bell curve, every fandom is going to have the bad side, but they do nothing to sully the name of the game, they only ruin themselves.

The 40% of the Undertale fandom is so good. 10%Weird fan's love the charecter's and than they do weird ship and weird things. 50%Haters that always hate you becoese of your choice and always wants war on other games. If they win they start speak toxic. When they lose they just wont accept their defeat.

grilled cheese sandwich

i mean its still at a 95% positive rating on steam and over 1.3 mill sales.....why does this video exist 🤣, but I get the point and yes ppl telling you how to play a game that was meant to be played in anyway the player wanted to get their ending was toxic but also funny because feck anyone telling me how to play a game.

I feel like this video overstates how dead the Undertale fandom is (there’s still hype, and fan content, especially around Deltarune… It’s just not “thermonuclear” anymore, and because it’s not the biggest thing ever it’s dead… I feel like some of the points in this video also are not the best… I feel like you're overstating the freaky, abhorrent stuff in the fandom as that kind of stuff (as you say) can be found in any fandom… z Trying to single it out as one of the reasons for Undertale’s “death” seems misguided. and the flipping policing of Undertale playthroughs is also bad. (It's like taking away from the experience as playing a pacifist route after a neutral one likely would feel stronger.) but I don’t think this is the “majority” … just a small group of vocal lunatics. The Deltarune description was more just to explain that Deltarune is not connected so people would not be worried that one end would be canonized/not canonized (Plus explaining that the game is not a sequel or prequel as it shares a lot of the same characters... Almost like an... AU...). It feels like you're just trying to frame it as a part of this “fans madness ruined the game” narrative. What leads to “dwindling interest” in undertale is just, age? Like that’s it… Obviously, it’s not going to be thermonuclearly popular after a few years so acting like it’s “dying” when it’s just chilling feels like just, trying to find a way to justify your clickbait YT title… and you did not even acknowledge the fandom around Deltarune (despite showing footage of Deltarune fangames) Like, Deltarune is unfinished but I honestly think it has the potential to surpass Undertale in quality, and maybe even popularity (unless you consider it apart of the same fandom) The fandom is doing pretty strong (and as someone who joined pretty late I feel like most of the madness is in the past…) Probably should not leave a comment as it would boost this video in the algorithm when I think it’s bad, but whatever…

I could never figure out why I hated Undertale so much until you said Homestuck. Then it hit like ten trucks at once. Oh God. Ew.

I wouldn't say umdertales fandom is that awful.Sure some of the fans were obnoxious,but it's not the worst I have encountered in the videogame world that would go to Lol fanbase,or any soulsborne,and Pokemon to name a few. As for the game itself it's got a unique morality system,but I never considered it the greatest game of all time like many people in 2015 thought it isn't even the best game of 2015 that would go to Bloodborne. As for fanart or fans ruining the game. I don't let fanbases ruin my enjoyment of something.Rule 34 is something every remotely gets of it. I think it's stupid how some people will let a fanbase ruin something for them it's not hard to ignore it and enjoy the game.

You're talking about undertale as if it's a dead game lol

The game is more than alive dunno what you’re on about

at first i was curious about trying to play it .. i watched the walkthroughs or all the paths since i'm a spoilers lover. and once i tried to have my copy .. doomstale arrived ... super paranormal saturation of the thing arrived not merely like a tidal wave, but rather like a solar wave.. undertale fandom attacked like a raging solar burst and destroyed all there was to love about it. undertale everywhere .. it was no longer a mere indie game, it became its own marketing brand.. and it became really disgusting and insufferable. i never played it, and never will. and especially when the degenerates and deranged trash humanswine creating trash content for the game, the game lost its identity completely. their "backseating" also killed the game altogether. if new gamers wanted to try a different style, they get lynched and hung by the nearest tree! someone wanted to play 100% in a different order, get lynched and hung, the game was no longer a game, it became a cultistic trap. you either play it HOW THE FANS DEMAND IT PLAYED, "your own options and experience" be DAMNED. or you simply pretend it didn't exist, and disown it ever lived. also the "fan art" more like hormonal art is too sick and too disgusting.. some artists really should find their own deep net groups and never return to the normal net. undertale is no longer an entertainment game, it's a raging cult filled with crazy worshipers, and internet doxers, they'd rather you DIE FOR REAL, than play it any other way. .. i simply disowned the game ever existed, never played and never will. personally.. when this cult game, arrived, i was introduced to another one, much smaller, and shorter, much unique, and cuter, and overall ... i thank very much undertale's fanbase of lunatics, for gatekeeping the game so much hardcore, that i got to enjoy my life with OneShot. both were released very near each other, OneShot was released before undertale, and OneShot remained chaste. as the madnessbase violated undertale in all shapes and forms, and ways. TL;DR: if you want to play undertale online .. you better choose 1 of 2 things... do you want to play the game privately and never share with anyone at all you ever played it, and enjoy what can be enjoyed of it? or would you like to play it as you wish, get doxed by 10 people have suspicious packages arrive to your home with death threats. and then you either join the cult, or you get removed ?

I want to hack Undertale and turn the protagonist into just the worst POS possible. Change EVERYONE just to destroy anyone that gave someone else shit for how they played. See, I was never a die hard fan. I still haven't finished the game (I might eventually) but, just like the sheriff in Fallout 3 who had the nice duster and cowboy hat that I really wanted.... IMMA DO WHAT I WANT. YOU CAN STOP ME MR SHERIFF MAN. GIMME YO HAT.

I realy liked the game, i never played. Im going to assume Jacksepticeye was the community favorite for the game, i watched him play the whole game pacifist. I never seen any other form of Undertale than JSE.

I couldn't disagree with this video more. yeah I will admit there are some cringe elements to the fandom, which is inevitable for any fandom as big as undertale. That's the thing though, people can choose how much to interact with the fandom, or not at all. while yes, the shipping and sexual stuff can be pretty cringe, dude don't kink shame. Only real problem I see is people harassing streamers. Which is just wrong no matter how you look at it. The real reason the fandom has quieted down so much is simply the sheer length of time between games. No fandom is going to stay at its peak when new official content is only released once every five or seven years or so. Not that I blame Toby for taking so long, he can take his time as far as I'm concerned. Just that the length between releases is inevitably going to cause the fandom to go partly dormant. While yes, the fandom has its cringe elements, and some of the AU stuff is down right silly, there may be some bad apples and some people gatekeeping too hard. Ultimately though the fandom has produced some incredibly creative and wonderful things, that in my mind at least, far outweigh he bad. The fandom is far from dead, it is simply sleeping until the next episode of Deltarune comes out.

TBH the random made me have no interest in the game. Particularly because of how much they pushed it on my face. Eventually I just found the idea of how the real ending was attained tedious. So I just decided not even without the fandom ruining it for me, it wasn't for me.

The game is more than alive dunno what you’re on about. Also judging by this video you’ve barely even looked into this fandom at any point of time have you?

Filthy casuals are what led to the death of Undertale 😤

While this was a good video summing up why the fandom had a huge negative effect on the game, I think the game is far from dead even now.

It's a bit presumptuous to say the that Undertale is dead. Its fandom very much alive, and has _significant_ overlap with the Deltarune fandom, which is basically just a subset of Undertale's community since most Deltarune fans were already Undertale fans when it came out. 6:45 I wouldn't say it was _the_ majority, since that's a pretty strong word and most fans of basically anything aren't super active. What I will say it's that it's a supremely loud and active subset of a very large fandom, with the fandom's overall size scaling this loud subset up as well. 8:15 Saying that it isn't in its golden means that it's dead is pretty disingenuous.

Every game gets killed by their fans eventually, if not, those games werent thst popular to begin with, i heard the same antifans argument over and over, and its nothing new, consider change your perspective buddy

I really like both of these games, but the amount of LGBT propaganda in these games pisses me off.

So much drama by baby adults for a stupid game that is not even that good.

Like I’ve always said: Undertale is an amazing game, but its fans are almost as bad as MAGAts.

No its not, there the reason toby fox is a millionaire and deta rune ate a thing

Bruh I play the game on gamepass its terrible why is this so popular?

Genocide run will always be the best way to play the game

its death knell was being a shit game.

First?

I was interested in DeltaRune. then I saw the whole premise was this spiteful feeling 'Nothing you do matters' so. Yea. No edgelord i'm taking my shit and leaving

Undertale is one of the best games of all time for me

I didnt blink an eye at it till 2019. By then all I had seen was gross fan art so I assumed it was a dumb game but a buddy of mine at the time bought it for me on My switch. Games okay. Not really my thing but I liked the story just fine but honestly still just not my kind if game and the fandom is gross. I hate the fact that every fandom makes pornos and shit. Its absolutely stupid

I am now inspired to stream a play through of undertale and kill every monster just to piss off those types of fans

Lɨӄɛ ʏօʊ'ʀɛ anʏ bɛttɛr! Yօʊ'ʀɛ jʊst as tօxɨc, stʊpid and ʊsɛʟɛss օf a trօgʟօdʏtɛ as thօsɛ wօrthʟɛss pɛacɛnɨks arɛ! 😆 Yօʊ and ʏօʊʀ fellow ɢօօɖʏ-ɢօօɖʏ tʀօɢʟօɖʏtɛs sɦօʊʟɖ stɨcӄ tօ ɢɨvɨռɢ Tօbʏ tɦat ʍօռɛʏ ʏօʊ stօʟɛ, ɨt's tɦɛ օռɛ tɦɨռɢ ʏօʊ'ʀɛ ɢօօɖ at ɨռ tɦօsɛ օxʏɢɛռ-աasȶɨռɢ ʍɨstaӄɛs ʏօʊ caʟʟ "ʟɨvɛs", ʊsɛʟɛss ɨɖɨօts աɦօ tɦɨռk ʏօʊ'ʀɛ sօmɛthɨռg, աɦɛռ ʏօʊ'ʀɛ jʊst ʄaɨʟɛd aռɖ braɨռɖɛaɖ sʊb-aռɨʍaʟs! 😆