for Clarity: -Focalors and Furina are 2 separate entities, Focalors is a Divine God, Furina is her Humanity. -Only Focalors Died, Not Furina. -Focalors Intent was to wipe out one of the thrones of the 7, which means there is no longer a Hydro Archon, only 6 Archons remain. (the Hydro Archon throne is erased from the 7) -Usually when a God dies, their residue is powerful enough to cause some sort of explosion or contaminate the area they died in, but I'm assuming Focalors planned for her powers to be absorbed by Neuvillette after she died. -Fontaine is Not under the judgement of Celestia anymore, it is strictly governed by Neuvillette alone. -The Hydro Archons Divinity was destroyed, meaning the Authority over Hydro belongs to The Hydro dragon once again. (Zhongli’s Divinity is still present, meaning he is still a throne even tho he retired.) -Focalors was required to die to fulfill her justice, since her existence as an Archon is an Unjust effect of the Hydro Dragons power being stolen, as long as a Divine Being of Hydro exists, The Hydro dragon would never be Justified. In short, The existence of a Hydro throne/Archon is a wrong doing against the Hydro Dragon, meaning Focalors knew she needed to not only Kill herself but also her Divinity to return The authority over Hydro back to Neuvilette, for as long as her Divinity lives, The Hydro Dragon will never get their Justice. Focalors never wanted to be a God, she wanted to be Human.
@@thewhambam Yeah, I got a little confused though, In Fontaine is told that the "Throne" is destroyed, so there will never be another hydro god, but in Zongli case the Geo Throne is still there right? The only reason there isn't a new geo god is because he is still alive, is that right?
I dont think you guys got to understand the story Like the guy in the comment said Focalors split herself in2 Divine furina and human furina If divine furina vanishes the throne is destroyed and there will be no more archons according to Celestia Divine Zhongli is still there so he's technically still the Geo god
@@Genesis00718just to try to understand a bit more, Focalors said "destroy the throne" and with that give Neuvi his powers back which were controlled by the gnosis (that's what I understand) so killing the divinity also destroyed the gnosis, the other gnoses are still existential and someone holds their power, only the hydro one is "destroyed" so the heavenly principles and celestia can hold nothing to Furina or Neuvi or even Fontaine... Like Khaenriah... A city with development... And no god... Oh no... It's gonna happen again😮😮😮
I still remember when I thought that the hydro archon is a dog of celestia due to them being scared of the heavenly principles. Focalors giving the biggest middle finger by executing herself and the throne is such a great plot twist
Personally, I still think Furina counts as the Hydro Archon. She had the divinity. It’s just that the divinity separated herself from its vessel. As for what Neuvillette is in relation to godhood, he’s the hydro sovereign. Simple as that. The big difference in that distinction is that the hydro archon is a subordinate to the Heavenly Principles, while being the Hydro Sovereign makes Neuvillette free to do whatever he wants to.
@@thewhambamwith that logic, all archons are not real gods, but the sovereigns are. furina is focalors' humanity, furina has her body but not her divinity.
Actually if you think about it the traveller always mimic dragon skill, not archon. Just like the mondstadt one, traveller skill similar to dvalin than venti
@@zackilhdz Gods in this game are not just archons. Gods existed before the 7. Powerful beings of immortal races. Then the archon war started to reduce the number from 1000s to just 7 because there was just too many and the world was breaking apart. So the HP forced them to fight to the death and then each of the surviving gods became an archon of an element and were given a gnosis which held the authority of the element. Sovereigns are the original wielders of this power but they never considered themselves gods. Even though they were the original rulers before the heavenly principles invaded and took the power and rule for themselves. Archons were needed to balance out the world. Otherwise the heavenly principles would have just wiped all the gods out. But yea basically Sovereigns are not gods. They are above the gods of their element, but they do not classify as gods.
Okay, she is the God of justice but she has the wits of the God of wisdom. She is still good at delivering justice just as well. She has the vision of the God of eternity. She has the sense of freedom as the God of freedom. She is true to her "self contract" like the God of contracts. She outwitted the Heavenly Principles themselves. This lady is underrated ✨✨✨✨✨
Both Furina and Focalor is a goat with Furina withstanding centuries of immortality without once having her mind erode. And Focalor decide to trick the HP so she could avoid Fontaine from being wipe off from the map.
Actually her mind was eroding. But it was exceptionally amazing how long she held out for despite being a mortal. This ties back to the relationship between the gods and mortals. The fact that both gods and mortals are both not safe from erosion. Only that one will always have the power to outlast the other.
Lol This and the fact that celestia is above the new area of fontaine is absolute hilarious. But i dont think we will see celestia Nail someone anytime soon since HP is currently on weaken state (sleep)
Can't really say her mind could erode, since her spirit was inside the machine. However it didn't stop her from having to feel all the emotions flowing in and having to deal with constant pain of loss and fear of prophecy. She feared of losing her spirit: her power itself that was sealed away in machine in her spirit form.
Can't really say her mind could erode, since her spirit was inside the machine. However it didn't stop her from having to feel all the emotions flowing in and having to deal with constant pain of loss and fear of prophecy. She feared of losing her spirit: her power itself that was sealed away in machine in her spirit form. Essentially, her own vision power saved her from doom alongside the entire Fontaine.
I love how the ending of this archon quest is not some cliche "we prevented the bad thing from happening", but instead "we can't stop the bad thing from happening. but we can do something about it". Not a single character was wasted out of opportunity from this whole chapter. All the setups from the first act were paid off until the final act. Even the closure of the story ended with satisfaction. Yes, Inazuma chapter was a huge disappointment, but this? This exceeded my expectations. I believe the writers team learned from their mistakes from Inazuma chapter and managed to subvert expectations in the most satisfying way possible. I can't wait what will chapter 5 have for us.
@@kgsounds9556 Basically, it had a lot of setups at the start with no payoff in the end, abrupt finale and ridiculously unnecessary character twist. While the character's story quests do retcon the archon quest, it was already set a bad impression as a main quest.
This means Neuvillette is now the ruler of Fontaine(?), as a hydro dragon sovereign, and Focalors returning what truly belongs to him! Focallette angst
If you have Neuvillette, after the AQ his character lore will change and he will point out some more tidbits about how visions are given. Now that Focalors is dead the role of "giving a fragment of divinity to mortals" in Fontaine falls to him.
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No fontaine is now not ruled by anyone and neuvillette is still the iudex running on a justice system
Since there is no seven archons, but six archons. It essentially means that Neuvillette is still the judge in Fontaine, but he had authority given to him back as it was stolend by the first who came. Meaning Fontaine is not governed by anyone, yet judge still hold for justice.
Neuvillette and Zhongli should definitely meet, and talk. Since both had long lives, and experience immense loss with the people they deeply cared about 😢💔
@@Owy_ that was cataclysm not archon war. Archon war was the one war to establish the rules of the seven the archons comes to existence after the the archon war non of the archon died in that war and that is the solo reason thay thay are called archon in the first place.
Here is some clarification about Focalor’s sacrifice and how her death meant the end of The Seven’s rules over Hydro while the other previous dead Archons or Archons that lost their Gnosis didn’t. The device that Focalors constructed wasn’t just to kill herself as an individual entity, but THE authority over the Hydro sovereign of Celestia as well (aka the “Throne” or “The Divine Self”), thats why even when previous Archons like Egeria, Makoto or Ruka died, Celestia’s sovereignty over their corresponding elements still remains thus spawned a successor. As for the case of the Gnosis, they are external devices meant as channels and connections between the Seven and Celestia, they are basically employee IDs that archons need to connect to Celestia, and losing them does not mean they will lose their elemental sovereignty. Hence even though Morax and Barbatos retired or Beelzebub and Buer lost their gnosis, they are still divine beings, thus the corresponding elemental dragons did not regain their sovereignty.
4:40 So Focalors is/was Hydro Archon but Furina has Focalors' spirit and has the body she gained when Egeria turned her human. So Focalors here is just her divinity and powers that have formed some sort of consciousness (like Rukkhadevata's remaining consciousness at Irminsul not really being true Rukkhadevata). Sooo... What I can conclude that Furina is "Focalors before she became an archon." Soo... Furina = Focalors, but Furina =/= Hydro Archon. Focalors isn't dead, just her godhood. She's now a normal human like she always desired.
@@touhoumanty9131 I'm talking about a different case. Focalors was mentioned to have been an Oceanid before being turned into a human; so that had to have been Egeria.
I love how Aether and Lumine have more lines in this chapter. It makes me happy for Zach and Sarah. Edit: Funny how when I’m watching this, I get a Genshin ad in the middle of everyone at a concert
@@GyroJapsterthey literally comforted and supported her throughout the majority of her story quest. Paimon was the insufferable one so you have it mistaken
Of course they are the same single person but have different separated identity.. So after that I don't cry to fullest because Hydro Archon still alive as human.
Remember that when a god die they bring about disaster around themself. So Focalors 's death is what trigger the flood and it all count as the real flood with primordial sea didn't happened afterall. She accelerate the prophecy herself and make all the conditions happened so it overwritten the true prophecy
@@peroastinktidakhandal Truth be told, Neuvilette did said that he verdict the people to become real people so the Primordial sea don't liquify them. But then the point still stand that a god had been executed so my theory about the flood happened because of her death still stand
Actually. When Focalors was Executed it looked like Her and Neuvillette were in some special space. That space must have contained the power of her death and Neuvillette was there to hold those energies
@@Haraseikusuno rising of water levels is due to absorption of energy from primordial by whale, nuevellete and skirk both said same, its not explosion 1 millinea of indemithium is used for the sake of safely transfer powers of hydro archon to hydro dragon sovereign
Crazy how she just ended her whole lineage and title of the seven like that. Makes me wonder what will it take to wake the principles up cuz they still haven’t done shit in our eyes.
It feels familiar.. The Dendro Archon disappearance were leaves scattered on Sumeru but as for Focalors.. Hydro orbs (or something) pours down with the rain on Fontaine..
in my understand : - Focalor the hydro's archon is not human but a mass of Hydro Energy (similiar as Oceanid) - Focalor using her energy to make her own realistic physical body and that's Furina - Furina 100% doesnt have god power but happpened having hydro vision (maybe because of Focalor Origin) - Focalor give Hydro Gnosis to Neuvilette in other forms not solid like previous archons scene - There's no Hydro Archon anymore on Fontaine and Neuvilette is officialy highest authority (basically like dvalin ruled mondstad lol)
The elemental authority she gave him is no gnosis...in the finale conversation with neuvillette..he will reveal that gnosis are the body remains of 3rd descender ..so gnosis are not local to tevyat... What and why they made it as a basis of archon basis is unknown...
Focalor was in fact oceanid...the previous hydro archon made many of her oceanid familiar into humans by using primordial sea water ..they wanted to become human..including focalor...she was chosen to become the next archon.. probably because of her smartness... But her desire to live like a normal human was still there... So she separated her divine self from her mortal self...
Fool Celestia XD. The Thrones knew about a damn book that Orobashi read do you think they will not know that one of the 7 Authorities were taken back by a Sovereign?
So all along, I was right; Furina was just the other human being form used to deceive the God of the Celestia, and Focalor was within the oratres. I have the rejoicing of my heart because I pulled Neuvillette since I am aware that he is now the archon and a dragon soveriegn of the fontaine.
There’s no more archon in fontaine, because the throne of hydro is already destroyed, Neuvillette is above the archone the truly origin of the hydro power itself
This is so sad. Imagine you had to play the role of someone important or someone that everyone couldnput their hopes on for 500 years without any mistake and not doing anything of their liking it must be sucha atorture for her she never deserved this kind of treatment yet people blame her for the crisis. Tell me HOW CAN SOMEONE TELL YOU IF THEY HAVE NO IDEA THEMSELVES
They didn’t really blame her for the crisis itself but more of not protecting them from the crisis as an archon. To be fair, they didn’t know the real truth yet
So... what will Celestia do? After all the one of the seven was killed by himself, but his avatar stands. Neuvilette is not a Hydro Archon, he becomed true sovereign of Hydro. This also remains France, the revlolution. While other lands was monarchy, France was first becomed Republic. Is Selestia going to destroy Fontaine under authority of Neuvilette?
Celestia will most likely destroy Fontaine by destabilizing it from within (like instigating revolts and establish a puppet government with a pseudo Hydro Archon)
I do think the echo of Marie Antoinette, guillotines, and the now lack of a monarch is intentional. The details and objective are wholly different though. In history, eventually Napoleon arose from the French revolution’s ashes and made war on the rest of Europe, partly in order to topple the rest of the monarchies. They only defeated him because the only thing that could unite them all was the fear of them being overthrown. In this case I think Celestial is going to panic that an Archon can in fact be abolished, and will fight their hardest to ensure it does not happen again.
Neuvillette be in his war room devising plans how to help us get celestia’s ass after this arc onwards. Bro this scene in the anime will make me cry like how nezuko bathed the sun wtf
Here lies the remains of a god who should have lived a life eternal. Thoughts on what this portends are many and varied. Some consider it the mark of a great sin, or a sign of great devastation. Some think of it as the end of an age, while others; the beginning.
Why does every archon suicide when mc comes. I understand they are a bit diplomatic to heavenly principles but why the hell at this point and why only suicide. At the is point traveler should join hu tao for funeral parlour for gods😂😂😂😂
Si fue Arconte, pero no lo es más, ya no existe como tal un arconte hydro. Skirk en cambió hace ver a todo Teyvat y sus habitantes (incluso Arcontes) como menudos mojones. No debieron mostrarnosla aun.
*5:23** pause bro... I've actually been waiting years n years for my Hydro Queen as a Water element myself, but when she came I was very disappointed with her personality her skill effects, but after watching this far I feel like if I keep watching this video, you might succeed in having me reconsider, I mean water element can feel water element*
Ninjahunter: me seeing a man afar from here in a rainy day. Seeing him suffer of pain. Lots of things might need to done. Furina with the other side will live as peaceful life. For now. We'll then hydro dragon. What will you do now. Now you've obtained the power. You know what to do hydro dragon. Well it's gonna take a long journey ahead from it. Hope for the best hydro dragon. *vanish flash step*
Oh the archons of hydro,electro nor dendro, you can’t pleased with the one you love , rukkadevate, makoto now focalors… can’t the female gods have a better life they loves one have to sacrifice or died in a battle or a sins that the formal had made , the god of justice had died that’s why there are no one to hold the sword of rights…