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The Decline of NASCAR...What Happened? 

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NASCAR has been on the decline of for the past 15 years now, this video attempts to explain why.
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Комментарии : 9 тыс.   
@AbstractPragmatism
@AbstractPragmatism 5 лет назад
I grew up in the south with several family members, particularly older ones, who were hardcore NASCAR fans. None of them watch the races anymore. The reason they gave me: "It used to be about the cars, and the people who drove them. Now it's cookie-cutter drivers taking cookie-cutter cars around cookie-cutter tracks."
@madisonatteberry9720
@madisonatteberry9720 5 лет назад
But.......hasn't always been like that? I mean not in the beginning, when it was ran with the bootleggers but then again most of those people weren't alive......maybe.
@aidy6000
@aidy6000 5 лет назад
Well I mean I'm surprised a sport where you only turn left lasted this long.
@TheNascarfan999
@TheNascarfan999 5 лет назад
@@madisonatteberry9720 The video talked about the cars becoming more and more similar over the last 20 years and about a perceived lack of personality in the drivers over that time. The tracks that the series raced on have also become more cookie cutter by way of NASCAR building a handful of 1.5 mile tracks and awarding races to those tracks, plus giving additional races to those tracks at the expense of more entertaining tracks. In the heyday the 1.5 mile tracks were desired as they were big enough to have a huge seating capacity and were build in/near major markets to attract those residents as fans. However, smaller tracks in the more traditional NASCAR fan base (primarily the Carolinas) lost races as a result. This led to a much higher percentage of the races being races on tracks that are more about the car's power and setup than about the driver's skill.
@thetrumpnewsnetwork7503
@thetrumpnewsnetwork7503 5 лет назад
yep
@EmperorZelos
@EmperorZelos 5 лет назад
cookie-cutter means what here?
@carolinaghost4138
@carolinaghost4138 4 года назад
When you can miss 11 races and win the championship something's wrong .
@Outlaw8908
@Outlaw8908 4 года назад
carolina ghost Yeah... that was some serious shit.
@kevinhanandi
@kevinhanandi 4 года назад
How is that possible? How points are counted in nascar, and how many races are in one season?
@matthewtgg8491
@matthewtgg8491 4 года назад
*cough* Kyle Busch *cough* sorry I had something in my throat
@matthewtgg8491
@matthewtgg8491 4 года назад
@@kevinhanandi 32 races in a season 22 without a playoff system
@kevinhanandi
@kevinhanandi 4 года назад
@@matthewtgg8491 playoff system just like NBA? In motorsport? That is new for me
@lilwill6985
@lilwill6985 2 года назад
Why NASCAR declined in 1 sentence: They decided the racing wasn't good enough and decided to focus on "entertainment" and changed the rules accordingly.
@mtlnascarfan
@mtlnascarfan 2 года назад
That's the exact same reason that the WWE has gone to shit. It's about "entertainment" and not about actual wrestling. I haven't watched a race since Stewart retired.
@flynnlivescmd
@flynnlivescmd 2 года назад
And I havent watched wrestling since the early 2000s
@bernie472
@bernie472 2 года назад
@@mtlnascarfan Exactly about the entertainment aspect of it. I think the NFL is in the same boat so to speak if they haven't been deemed entertainment already.
@erc3338
@erc3338 Год назад
Stages are stupid.
@joeydelrio
@joeydelrio 3 года назад
what killed the sport was when they tried to take a southern regional sport and make it mainstream. the southern fans went away and the mainstream is only short term, when the fad faded the rest of the fans went as well. nascar did just fine for all them years, why did they have to mess with it.
@exvan3571
@exvan3571 2 года назад
*The* answer.
@brianstacks1412
@brianstacks1412 2 года назад
You nailed it.
@grangermontag1824
@grangermontag1824 2 года назад
They messed with it because they hate white America
@bvanderford
@bvanderford Год назад
When they couldn’t wave the confederate battle flag they left in a huff
@Andythedrew1
@Andythedrew1 5 лет назад
“Safety is boring” -Company Man 2019
@SqurtieMan
@SqurtieMan 5 лет назад
-Emplemon 2019
@elemomnialpha
@elemomnialpha 5 лет назад
"Safety is when nothing happens"
@suepierce4478
@suepierce4478 5 лет назад
Safety is not boring, but cars not being able to pass each other is.
@AshLifts97
@AshLifts97 5 лет назад
He has a point though. Obviously having your sport be safe is important, but when new safety procedures start having a noticeable impact on the sport then people are going to lose interest because it's not the same thing they enjoyed before. It's like eating a healthier version of your favourite food. Sure it's better for you, but it doesn't taste as good.
@honkhonkler7732
@honkhonkler7732 5 лет назад
It is though in a lot of cases.
@dobermanpac1064
@dobermanpac1064 4 года назад
Fathers start a business Son’s build the business Grandsons wreck the business
@aarickparker
@aarickparker 4 года назад
Facts
@sgt.krakatoa1093
@sgt.krakatoa1093 4 года назад
Why are you talking about Star Wars?
@2IzzyReelz
@2IzzyReelz 4 года назад
You are correct.
@victorevanssr8771
@victorevanssr8771 4 года назад
I like that
@bgandjsco1
@bgandjsco1 4 года назад
You my friend hit the nail on the head. France Jr is a DIMWITT
@emilyofjane
@emilyofjane 2 года назад
I grew up in that awkward era where Nascar was REALLY popular when I was a little kid, but then completely fell into obscurity by the time I was old enough to actually understand the sport. This was very informative!
@jacklove5148
@jacklove5148 3 года назад
The biggest problem is that NASCAR keeps getting further and further away from actual stock car racing it’s impressive that guys used to go to a dealership buy a car work on it and have it going 200 mph in a couple weeks now it’s $400k cars that no ordinary person could ever get their hands on it’s just not as relatable
@gregplatt3936
@gregplatt3936 2 года назад
I agree! When is a group of people going to start a real “stock car” race? Bring your own real car, weld in a roll cage if you want or not, put it on the track and race others like you! Buckle up in your stock bucket or bench seat and get up on the wheel and drive that Mustang or Camero or Charger!
@wwb7091
@wwb7091 2 года назад
I haven't followed NASCAR for many years. I remember when a Chevy was a Chevy, a Pontiac was a Pontiac, a Ford was a Ford, and a MoPar was a MoPar. Richard Petty, Junior Johnson, "Fireball" Roberts, Al Unser, A J. Foyt..... and everybody cheated.... Smokey Yunick was the best cheater. Now, it doesn't matter what name is on the car.... they're all cookie-cutter machines that have zero in common with their "brand".
@paullacroix3585
@paullacroix3585 2 года назад
I remember watching a real 1964 Ford galaxy racing around the track. I was 10. It was wild world of sports. It was a real car. The nascars are not real. They suck.
@Habit.0505
@Habit.0505 2 года назад
Nascar hasn't been stock since the 60s, this is the worst argument I've ever came across when it comes to this.
@Habit.0505
@Habit.0505 2 года назад
@@gregplatt3936 then go to your local track
@DavidLand91
@DavidLand91 5 лет назад
NASCAR became popular not being a traditional "stick and ball" sport, but decided to change their product to be more like "stick and ball" with standardized equipment, playoffs, ect... and people stopped watching.
@NascarNixon
@NascarNixon 5 лет назад
dAvId HaTeS nAsCaR
@alexthesniper1952
@alexthesniper1952 5 лет назад
Playoff's suck dick sports don't need game 7 moments every year.
@justclancy1151
@justclancy1151 5 лет назад
David Land coming in with the hot takes
@cocacola6562
@cocacola6562 5 лет назад
David Land people stopped watching because they saw how pathetic it was to see cars go in circles for 3 hours. Also the inbred trump supporter is declining in numbers.
@yaboirico5221
@yaboirico5221 5 лет назад
@@danielhorsman7235 Spec Miata races
@Rygertyger
@Rygertyger 5 лет назад
Loved NASCAR as a kid. Hate the chase, hate the gimmicks, hate the stages. Hated the Car of Tomorrow. They really blew it.
@OhioDan
@OhioDan 5 лет назад
Same here. Their "playoff" format was the last straw for me. I haven't watch a race since that was implemented.
@BigSleepyOx
@BigSleepyOx 5 лет назад
"stages" was the final straw for me.
@lawrencewestby9229
@lawrencewestby9229 5 лет назад
They added stages because they didn't want to shorten the races. They hoped that by having two stage finishes they could keep people interested during a three hour plus race.
@waynerichards8606
@waynerichards8606 5 лет назад
Not enough of short tracks and most of them had close down
@USMCArchAngel03
@USMCArchAngel03 5 лет назад
That and half the drivers are so bland that if they're not unlikable, they're entirely forgettable.
@owengreene7659
@owengreene7659 2 года назад
Two things killed it for me. 1, when they moved away from "stock" cars to the increasingly homogenous cars. 2, All the kindergarten playground rules .
@Habit.0505
@Habit.0505 2 года назад
Hasn't been stock since the 60s man
@adamscoots4667
@adamscoots4667 2 года назад
@@Habit.0505 he probably means like every car company dosent have a like different car like in the 90s and before
@Habit.0505
@Habit.0505 2 года назад
@@adamscoots4667 no he's complaining that the cars moved towards being more of a spec car instead of true stock cars which is truly bogus because they we're barely ever stock to begin with.
@matrixpictures7799
@matrixpictures7799 2 года назад
idk why people complain about the cars not being stock
@mikeptiufekchiev3566
@mikeptiufekchiev3566 2 года назад
Which rules changes would you get rid of? Personally i hate stage racing and artificial yellows, pit strategy is an integral part of racing that they are attempting to ruin. I'm mixed on the championship changes, I think some were necessary, but the current championship seems so artificial. Maybe a return to the original Chase format? I don't know, I do like the emphasis on winning, maybe just increase the points for winning? Genuinely interested to hear your response since I'm a lifelong fan.
@robertburkes4972
@robertburkes4972 2 года назад
"THE FRANCE FAMILY!" That is the reason for NASCAR decline! Stage Races? Cookie cutter tracks, Cars having to be same as a cookie cutter car, Martinsvile a DIRT TRACK? I am 69 years old, and grew up watching auto racing. And after I got married my wife and I every year went to Taladaga and watched a race in person, and if I had to work on a Sunday, the VCR was set to record and no one better tell me the outcome of the race till I watched it! In short, NASCAR was my sport, Earnhart, Elliot, Wallace, Richard Petty, real men real drivers, They The France Family, RUINED the sport! A friend I used to work with ask me last year which race we were going to go to Alabama and watch, I told him HELL NONE! HELL I DO NOT EVEN WATCH NASCAR ON TV ANY MORE! THE SPORT HAS GONE INTO THE CRAPPER!
@n1sc9rfan29
@n1sc9rfan29 Год назад
The "France" family ? What the hell man....
@russellpottenger8584
@russellpottenger8584 5 лет назад
1. Restrictor plate engines 2. Cookie cutter cars 3. Their end-of-the-year Chase point system.
@nomorecontent5404
@nomorecontent5404 5 лет назад
Exactly
@MagnumForceGB
@MagnumForceGB 5 лет назад
Cookie cutter tracks also
@ihateonyouhaha
@ihateonyouhaha 5 лет назад
Number 3 for me. Haven’t watched NASCAR in over a decade.
@Derpy-qg9hn
@Derpy-qg9hn 5 лет назад
Cookie-cutter cars? They've been virtually identical (tube frame with solid rear axle, double-wishbone fronts, controlled-size V8 up front etc) for decades, the only differences being "who's better at mucking around within the rules... and with money... to go faster?" It's not like LMP1 where the rules allowed Nissan to roll up with a front-wheel-drive aircraft carrier in a field of closed-cockpit F1 cars.
@bouteilledeau1463
@bouteilledeau1463 5 лет назад
I find it pretty funny that Dale never stopped criticizing the Restrictor Plate Engine and he dominated Nascar after it was put. Shows how much he cared about Nascar.
@erichaynes7502
@erichaynes7502 5 лет назад
Remember once NASCAR got that HUGE contract the networks ruined the sport with endless commercials.
@thomasc.5219
@thomasc.5219 5 лет назад
Well that's America and capitalism for ya. Always gotta be selling you something. But it commercials truly went up when sponsorship dollars started to decline. Look at cars in 1999. Covered in sponsors. Look at the cars now and its barely nothing. So money has to be made up somewhere.
@thearnotts121
@thearnotts121 5 лет назад
Everything has commercials
@mrcolegreat3595
@mrcolegreat3595 5 лет назад
Don't they show the race during the commercials? That's better than every other sport
@alexyverr4389
@alexyverr4389 5 лет назад
*coughs* side by side
@pandahungry8000
@pandahungry8000 5 лет назад
Despiser Despised who do you think is paying the networks? The companies that are advertising on their networks. More commercials means more money. Same with RU-vidrs.
@mango2538
@mango2538 2 года назад
I think the biggest nail in the coffin was changing the way the championship worked. Using the chase and other playoff systems was a huge mistake. I don't understand why the driver who has the most points can't just win like every other motorsport. People got mad at dominance but, why shouldn't the best and most consistent driver just win. Especially at the end of the season when one crash can mean the end of your entire year, even if it's with some backmarker car.
@acme181169
@acme181169 2 года назад
I'm British, I've never even seen a race but reading the comments it obvious what the problem is! NASCAR has moved too far from it's roots. People saw it as more than just car racing, its culture. Funnily enough, some American owners of English football clubs just tried to eradicate the culture from football (you probably call it soccer) with the creation of the superleague and move to the American sports franchise model. They failed miserably and heads rolled in boardrooms right across Europe. The moral is:- They don't care about your sport, just your money!
@atomzero1
@atomzero1 2 года назад
I am an American, and I can tell you I agree on both Nascar and Soccer.
@seanc.5310
@seanc.5310 2 года назад
No one really pays attention to either one of those in the US. If it's not NBA or NFL the majority of people don't watch it
@acme181169
@acme181169 2 года назад
@@seanc.5310 America in a nutshell!
@sevinstorey4365
@sevinstorey4365 2 года назад
Yeah just like the Nashville country music industry trying to appeal to an audience that’s not their audience. Country music fans don’t want mommies boys in skinny jeans that rap and all sound the same! Country music is about story-telling, not some drum beat mix of alcohol, trailer parks, and date nights! Oh and they throw pick up trucks in too, cause you know, they are kinda obligated to it in their marketing scheme.
@atomzero1
@atomzero1 2 года назад
@@sevinstorey4365 you can say that again
@jeffgordonfan2462
@jeffgordonfan2462 5 лет назад
One morbid answer is that it got too safe, combined with poor management, retiring stars & legends, less driver personalities, the recession, & ticket prices getting higher & higher.
@Mr72Dolphins
@Mr72Dolphins 5 лет назад
Bingo
@cocacola6562
@cocacola6562 5 лет назад
Wild Card 26 the obvious reason is young people don’t care seeing cars go in circles for 3 hours. The traditional fan is dying off which is older inbred people from the south.
@bitchinbob2045
@bitchinbob2045 5 лет назад
Nailed it .
@JaKingScomez
@JaKingScomez 5 лет назад
@@cocacola6562 come on no need to insult people just for entertainment, but I agree Nascar isn't very entertaining unless you go to the races it has a great atmosphere and snacks but ok tv it's worse
@alexthesniper1952
@alexthesniper1952 5 лет назад
Wild Card I would rather have it too safe than risk of someone being killed, ask the drivers if they wanna remove the Hans Device.
@michealscott9199
@michealscott9199 4 года назад
My dad loved nascar which made me love it and we would watch the race every Sunday. Unfortunately he passed away and my interest hasn’t really been there since.
@craigpridemore7566
@craigpridemore7566 2 года назад
Same thing with baseball for me. Dad loved it. I watched it with him. He can no longer remember players and I just don't watch it anymore.
@codemonkey2k5
@codemonkey2k5 2 года назад
Exactly!
@brycestewart4717
@brycestewart4717 2 года назад
I’m the opposite. Since my uncle died, I started watching it more
@Lunarfly_streams
@Lunarfly_streams 2 года назад
God bless man⚡️who was his favorite racer?
@IcecreamMcGuy
@IcecreamMcGuy 2 года назад
I’m sorry for your loss
@william53
@william53 2 года назад
My son and i attended the Winston / Memorial Day race as Dale Earnhardt supporters (from Chicago and never been to a race) 20-yrs ago. Holy Cow - what a “hoot”! As we walked to enter the race every racers has his own promotional trailer hawking every kind of item. Then pre-race going to the infield to see the cars, meet the pit crew & racers still working the car - Dale Earnhardt standing around car talking to his guys - another holy cow! And that dastardly Jeff Gordon! It was a great day! Son now 40+, will never forget the excitement. I think NASCAR forgot their roots and sold out to Madison Ave. They use to be counter-culture / bad-boy / southern / kick--ass event. They weren’t a fancy event for NYC types - it represented true southern heritage! So little of that left in America!
@ericschips1694
@ericschips1694 2 года назад
Competition cautions 10 laps into a race when you have an equally silly stage break 10 laps later, Watkins Glen....NASCAR used to be about endurance, and the best built cars would win. Now, with all the breaks, the audience gets gets bored, switches over to dog training shows or reality whatever shows. Bring back the 500 mile, no break, constant, all out racing, and fans will return.
@TheGrinch_
@TheGrinch_ 2 года назад
We don’t care anymore
@l0os176
@l0os176 5 лет назад
"Driver, you can't show that type of personality or emotion! Our company logo is on your car and racing outfit!"
@baronvonlimbourgh1716
@baronvonlimbourgh1716 5 лет назад
Yup, media training killed most sports.
@baronvonlimbourgh1716
@baronvonlimbourgh1716 5 лет назад
@@sylvestertat1078 true, corperations are the cancer that are sucking our society dry and making it act insane. They will be the downfall of our civilisation. Lets hope archeologists 3000 years from now will learn from our mistakes.
@Freak80MC
@Freak80MC 5 лет назад
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 You know, for as sad as the thought is, sometimes I do wish our civilization would fall, in a way that leaves humans still alive and debris for archaeologists in the future to study, and even a way to keep knowledge of our current languages so we can retranslate old stuff, because at least their civilization would end up better for it, being able to learn from all our mistakes but from a point of view that's easier to enact change, not being in the middle of things like we all are, unable to really shift anything to be better.
@cdcdrr
@cdcdrr 4 года назад
@@Freak80MC Who knows, future civilization might have a more interesting take on Nascar than what it is today. Maybe a religion around cars, with patron deities and mechanic-priests.
@brandonplaisted8194
@brandonplaisted8194 4 года назад
@@cdcdrr i think that exists in the movie mad max.
@Eric-pg6qc
@Eric-pg6qc 5 лет назад
Another factor: they got rid of a ton of fun smaller tracks and replaced them with generic 1.5 mile ovals that are basically identical, in places that aren’t the south. They even moved the Southern 500 for a while which was nuts
@patrickgary4507
@patrickgary4507 5 лет назад
So right! Most everyone I know stopped watching after they stopped having the Southern 500 on labor day weekend.
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 5 лет назад
Eric Cunningham they didn’t move the venue of the southern 500 they moved the date and changed the name. Now it’s changed back
@soneblac1
@soneblac1 5 лет назад
Very true eric
@alexandergilles8583
@alexandergilles8583 5 лет назад
Yep. Their expansion out of the south killed them. I mean they built a track in freaking new hampsire. New England doesn’t give two shits about nascar. They were extremely popular in the south and alienated them by investing all their money into expanding into places that just weren’t that interested in nascar.
@christopherstroud190
@christopherstroud190 5 лет назад
You can thank Speedway Motors on that one.
@Jstiffler24
@Jstiffler24 3 года назад
Lost interest when they switched the points system. Personally I like when the most consistent driver for the entirety of the season gets rewarded a championship. Feels like technology kind of took over too much as well when it comes to the cars. Doesn't seem to be all about how good the driver is but how much money each team has. Hendrick for example vs the wood brothers.
@Robloxity_News
@Robloxity_News 3 года назад
We need the Whinston Cup back.
@joemannix7471
@joemannix7471 2 года назад
A young woman in a bikini giving me. 2 packs of winston's in the parking lot kind of appeals to me.
@MikeBehrensWX
@MikeBehrensWX 5 лет назад
Getting rid of the overly expensive and generic cars would help. Put the stock back in stock car.
@B3Band
@B3Band 5 лет назад
Doesn't "stock" mean generic? Lol
@TheWizel
@TheWizel 5 лет назад
@@B3Band Stock means what is "in stock" at a dealership
@abolishguncontrollaws5689
@abolishguncontrollaws5689 5 лет назад
Nascar died after 350 cid became standard
@EDVERSiTY
@EDVERSiTY 5 лет назад
Please fuck off with the "put the stock back in stock car." It's a trendy thing to say but wouldn't be a good solution because the racing would be even worse. Nobody wants to see a car/driver win a race by several laps over. Spec cars are good for the sport, but the packages have been garbage. We need better packages, not a literal stock car. Stop it.
@gobblenater
@gobblenater 5 лет назад
@@EDVERSiTY go take a look at european touring car leagues and then try to pretend stock races cant be entertaining.
@roddwayne8792
@roddwayne8792 4 года назад
I liked the "old" NASCAR when Ford, Chevy and Dodge competed. Now all cars are the same with just decals identifying brand name. They should have learned their lesson from IROC.
@BigM_TV
@BigM_TV 4 года назад
IROC style cars would make it better. It would certainly make the racing more interesting than Gibbs and Penske winning 25 of the 36 races and the cup because they spent more money in aero testing and R&D. The best actual drivers would compete to win instead of just autopiloting
@deeas6518
@deeas6518 4 года назад
IROC? Islamic Republic Of Congo?
@ooohhh99
@ooohhh99 4 года назад
@@deeas6518 International Race of Champions
@spankthemonkey3437
@spankthemonkey3437 4 года назад
Rodd Wayne I'd love to see a challenger running on the track.
@tomotoole5089
@tomotoole5089 4 года назад
Don't forget PONTIAC POWER!
@andrewhurricane
@andrewhurricane Год назад
Growing up in the late 90’s and early 2000’s I feel like I grew up on the best era of the sport. The cars, the rivalries, the tracks, the video games, all were just so exciting. I’m grateful for that part of my upbringing, but the dominance of the sport in the 2000’s by one or two elite racing teams robbed the chemistry of it all.
@TheReilNeil
@TheReilNeil 2 года назад
Been watching nascar every year since I was born, and its amazing how well you nailed this. I've been saying for years that the safety is getting in the way of the racing, racing is dangerous so accept it or leave. And yes, the chase/playoff system is absolutely terrible and I think everybody knows its all just a big gimmick now. The drivers are pretty much vanilla now with everyone needing to behave a certain way for sponsors and to be "role models" for viewers. I for one can't stand where the sport is now and its only getting worse with the 2022 regs. But also, my dad did stop watching after Earnhardt died being an Earnhardt fan, that was definitely a big blow.
@accountingfinancemjr
@accountingfinancemjr 4 года назад
I was a fan in the 70s and 80s. I remember when Dale Earnhardt was promoting his new #15 Wrangler Thunderbird, let that sink in for a minute. In those days you could immediately tell whether the car was a Ford, Chevy, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, etc. In those days the driver had to drive his machine, the cars weren't all the same size, shape, and possess the same aerodynamic properties. The drivers had personalities but they didn't go fist fight other drivers in public like they were misplaced WWF, yes F, wrestlers. The drivers of old learned their craft off the track where today's drivers are either related to somebody in the sport or their family had enough money to finance them in some other racing series such that they could move up, whether that was the initial intention or not. I know I sound like an old coot that thinks everything old is better than the newer counterpart but NASCAR has changed more than what guys like me can adjust to. Thirty or forty years ago the average race fan was a car guy who could relate to the car-guy drivers that were racing. The drivers were almost expected to be low-life boozehound woman-chasers while today's driver seemingly has a public image to maintain with his respectable behavior and charity functions. It's hard to imagine the likes of a Johnson, LaBonte, or Petty without grease on their hands and under their fingernails where it's hard to imagine any of the newer generation of drivers with dirty hands or messed up hair. And maybe that's my point, older drivers/teams seemed like everyday guys that found a way to make a living from their hobby where the newer group seems to be less relatable to the average person.....and maybe that's just what happens when a sport's fan base grows larger than the core enthusiast of the sport. I don't recall many folks discussing driver's motorhomes or millions in the bank, today that stuff is in your face like and episode of the rich and famous.
@SamBrickell
@SamBrickell 4 года назад
I wasn't aware the World Wildlife Fund has wrestlers.
@jlyo1991
@jlyo1991 3 года назад
You touched on everything. You can look retrospectively and pinpoint exact moments where things got more boring and they all relate to abandoning the original fans and making things more palatable for non-fans. Bullet, meet foot.
@HoratioFitzbastard
@HoratioFitzbastard 3 года назад
@@jlyo1991 Now that PC thuggery has prevailed and we all live in nanny states at the mercy of woke SJW's and so called environmentalists, there isnt a place for NASCAR to thrive anymore, let alone old school NASCAR.
@shymag4
@shymag4 3 года назад
@@SamBrickell back in the day the WWE was the WWF
@lemmyhead8578
@lemmyhead8578 3 года назад
"Back in my day..." 😆
@mommafletch
@mommafletch 4 года назад
Honey, let me tell you about OLD NASCAR... There were these dynasties of drivers- the Pettys, the Earnhardts, the Allisons, the Yarbroughs, the Waltrips, the Wallaces, etc.- Fathers and sons and brothers and cousins, generations of them. It was a very genuine, connected business. There was room for real talent and real creativity. I used to work in NASCAR merchandising. I can remember when you'd call Dale Earnhardt's licensing company about returning some t-shirts, and one of his kids would answer the phone. Now, it's all corporate. You don't have those great families involved any more. There are no outstanding personalities to watch on the track. It's all the same guy, driving the same car, around the same track, and who cares about any of them? There is zero individuality. Today's NASCAR is anathema to it's origins. Dale Jr. was SMART, to get OUT.
@m.woodsrobinson9244
@m.woodsrobinson9244 4 года назад
Fantastic comment. That's it in a nutshell!
@franklinniesterjr3812
@franklinniesterjr3812 4 года назад
Great point.
@cheyannbissell7327
@cheyannbissell7327 4 года назад
Just had to bring up no Talent
@pikestance4219
@pikestance4219 2 года назад
I used to watched it Sunday morning when i was suffering from a hangover. I learn something about cars while watching it. I thin the biggest reason for the decline is that cars are more complex and people do not bother with them. There is a lack of appreciation for how cars work and thus an interest in racing them. The next is the lack of strong personalities. You can't just watch it. You have know the drivers. Dale, Richard petty, Waltrip, etc....
@felixmagath1471
@felixmagath1471 Год назад
It's interesting to notice the difference with Formula One, which by contrast has seen the average age of its fans getting lower and currently has one of the youngest audience of any major sport
@junioradult6219
@junioradult6219 Год назад
Drive to survive helped with that
@Chazer45
@Chazer45 11 месяцев назад
@@junioradult6219massively
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 5 лет назад
*_To be honest, Mario Kart 64 is one of the most interesting sports that race fans wanted to see._*
@ACE14341991
@ACE14341991 5 лет назад
Mario kart esports
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 5 лет назад
It shortens the races while adding the personality, track distinctiveness, and player interaction that NASCAR largely (if not completely) lacks.
@TheJingles007
@TheJingles007 5 лет назад
@@timothymclean what?
@georgeonquantin9812
@georgeonquantin9812 5 лет назад
So what your suggesting is Daytona USA
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 5 лет назад
@@TheJingles007 I was pointing out advantages Mario Kart has over NASCAR. The races are shorter, and detaching the race from reality allows racecar and -track designs that would be absurdly dangerous (if not impossible) IRL. Also kart combat, which lets the players interact in a way that new fans can recognize and understand.
@spectrelfc1152
@spectrelfc1152 4 года назад
Boring cars, boring drivers, lack of consistent paint schemes as sponsors, it was at its peak during the “Nextel Cup Series” era and “Sprint Cup Series” has an awful ring to it. NASCAR also changing the points format so many times hasn’t helped. Honestly Championships after 2003 don’t really seem that legit since a playoff format is stupid in Motorsports. They simply lost their identity. Watching old races feels like watching a different sport
@jamesbellar4893
@jamesbellar4893 4 года назад
man your right. pull up the 1984 firecracker 400 and watch that finish between petty and cale yarbrough. ford vs gm. that was racing.
@spectrelfc1152
@spectrelfc1152 4 года назад
Thomas Apple the problem with points though is hypothetically you could win all 35 races before the Championship, toss a piston, and lose the championship.
@jamex98
@jamex98 3 года назад
another real shot!! ill agree to you broo goose bumps👊! Nascar has got more lack. to those young fans dnt expect that gen7 is really good.
@jamex98
@jamex98 3 года назад
i cant belive why Nascar leaves out and kicks out Monster energy and this is biggest thing is has got 2 yrs contract? then boom basnished poor Monster energy
@jlyo1991
@jlyo1991 3 года назад
For me, it peaked as the Winston cup.
@thecausalgamer7916
@thecausalgamer7916 3 года назад
“You’re probably gonna see something on Fox you’ve never seen before”-Dale Earnhardt February 18th 2001
@AbdeelMarketing
@AbdeelMarketing 2 года назад
I'm almost 50, and have been a fan since I was a kid. My first race to see in person, Richard Petty was still driving. But I lost interest around the car of tomorrow era. The wings were so absurd that it almost single handedly made me lose interest. But I stuck it out for a few more years, until so many rules changes, and changing up the points system made it almost impossible to follow anymore. I was a huge fan, went to both races here at Texas every year, but have not even watched an entire race in about a decade. As for the issue with new fans, the anti-corporate sentiment that is so strong with younger generations likely has a lot to do with that. Corporate sponsorship, being on display the way it is, is what makes the sport work. It's also going to be a detractor for many younger potential fans.
@kenny8795
@kenny8795 5 лет назад
What killed it for me... 1. Lack of personalities i.e. there was no one left to root for after Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon, and Dale Jr. left 2. Stages was the nail in the coffin.
@SpiritHawk7
@SpiritHawk7 5 лет назад
Mid-late 90's and early-mid 00's when I was growing up as a kid was my favorite era of drivers. They were all so different and interesting. I just caught the race this past week on tv and I had no clue who half of the field were the other half were newcomers 10 years ago that I had no interest in and I think the only driver left that I liked out of 40+ people was Kevin Harvick.
@minecaftpenguin
@minecaftpenguin 5 лет назад
Exactly this. I remember turning on a NASCAR race a little while ago only to switch away because I didn't understand the whole stages thing and didn't wanna bother to learn. Racing is a simple concept. Whoever can go x distance in the fastest amount of time wins. I don't get why you need to add on to that.
@grahamrothphotography
@grahamrothphotography 5 лет назад
Kenneth Bolte whoa didn’t know those guys left ! Been ages since I watched it
@daverodkey
@daverodkey 5 лет назад
I agree 100%, I couldn't have put it better myself !
@ericdodson3630
@ericdodson3630 5 лет назад
@@minecaftpenguin The Stages are a throwback to short track racing. It's broken up into three stages each with bonus points for the playoffs, stage 1, and 2 are usually 1\4th the race distance, and stage 3 is the final half of the race. Not hard to understand. The only thing that i think kills it is the caution at the end of each stage. I think NASCAR creating all the artificial cautions is worse than the stage era. But how else are you going to give the top 3 or 4 drivers a chance to make their cars better without getting lapped too many times? 99% of debris cautions are dubious at best
@straightener2001
@straightener2001 4 года назад
Back in the day when the first rule of NASCAR was if you aren't cheating you aren't trying hard enough the sport was in it's prime. Early 70's to the mid 90's was the best. Drivers who can and did work on their own cars. Innovate and dominate was the rule of the day. The car of tomorrow turned me into the fan of yesterday.
@CarlyCatharsis
@CarlyCatharsis Год назад
Earnhardt Wasn't Called "The Intemidator" For Nothing & TonyStewart Carried THAT Torch!
@nuggethikes
@nuggethikes 2 года назад
I grew up wanting to be a race car driver, I told everyone about it. I’m 50 now and Life happened. I didn’t make my race car driver dream work, so I watched it. A lot, until I wasn’t able to recognize all of my favorite drivers. Numbers changed and paint schemes weren’t consistent. The coverage was better than ever, but the cars and drivers were hard to follow. Next was The chase, it was designed wrong from the beginning. Here’s how it should have been: only top 3 get season trophy’s. at the last race, whoever has the most wins. if 2 drivers have the same #, then a shootout occurs. For first, second, and third. 5 laps. The races are too long, they need to be more shorter races. They penalize drivers and teams so hard that there no room for a guy similar to Earnhardt. He and his team wouldn’t make it now. The cars are safer, I’m ok w that. But let the Toyotas and Chevys look different, come freakin on. Keep them safe, but make them different. Let the manufacturers decide the shapes. If there was one thing that tipped the scales for me it was the evil stepmother that took everything away from Jr. Everyone knew what his dad wanted, but she wasn’t having it. She will be going to hell for her actions. More iroc style races. Stock cars. How about a Tesla race? Corvette race? All cars that race MUST BE the same cars SOLD AT DEALERSHIPS. More short tracks and road courses, dirt. Change it up. LET THE RACE IN THE RAIN WITH RAIN TIRES! I stopped watching it 10-12 years ago. There’s more, but this is too long. Happy trails all.
@leonb2637
@leonb2637 2 года назад
The decline in sponsor monies, shifts to more 'corporate friendly' drivers took over, no more fights in pits, stopped races at popular traditional locations, politics, Toyota, aging out of the audience and failure to be more diverse, too difficult to cheat to win. RJ Reynolds and other tobacco sponsors got into the sport to advertise on cars when TV ads were banned in the early 1970's. By the late 1990's, Federal and state laws ended such marketing and tobacco demand was much lower so their money disappeared and not replaced at the same level and still much higher costs to operate cars. Today many companies find auto racing connected marketing to be of limited benefit, they get a much bigger return with better targeted ads on other programs, sports No doubt the drivers changed, to more 'corporate friendly' ones, stiff penalties if even looked at a driver the wrong way. They were good drivers for sure, like Jeff Gordon and Jimmy Johnson but not traditional in personality. Some like Stewart were the last of 'old school' style but his causing in part the death of a driver in a non-Nascar race, some of his toughness, wasn't liked anymore. Many races left fan favorite (North Wilksboro) traditional tracks to 1.5 mile cookie cutter ovals with no personality and owned by the France family or 2 other big groups. Only a few are left that are owned by independents. Some had to be ended as couldn't meet modern safety standards. Then you had the audience getting older as noted, not replaced by younger fans some of whom are more into other action sports, if into vehicles then into Japanese brands. Toyota in and Chrysler brand out. Many like me never accepted Toyota as a NASCAR brand as not a USA based company. Politics was part of it, they banned the CSA battle flag from being displayed at race sites, turning off some fans. NASCAR was and still is a 'White Southern Male' dominated sport, failing to attract Black and Hispanic/Latino drivers, owners, with a few exceptions and not getting a more diverse audience. And yes no innovations, no cheating, cars much slower, for sound safety reasons. Too many races too long with long multi crash endings and supplement laps to have a race to the end.
@72spawndn
@72spawndn 4 года назад
Car of tomorrow ruined it for me. When I can’t tell the difference between a Ford and Chevy, I’m done. The 2nd thing is the crop of drivers, they are all so bland.
@pictureBigger
@pictureBigger 4 года назад
Yep. That, plus the end of bump drafting. Now the drivers are too chicken shit to break out of single-file line until the last 10 laps of the race. It's boring as balls.
@lordfatcock
@lordfatcock 4 года назад
It's not that they are bland, some come in with attitude but Nascar wants things so clean that they can't really do anything. Plus most are spoiled so they have nothing to lose so they don't really care
@red2theelectricboogaloo961
@red2theelectricboogaloo961 4 года назад
@Jacquan Brown bruh
@dks13827
@dks13827 4 года назад
Done. Sad.
@racechamp2280
@racechamp2280 4 года назад
The only good thing was the Wing looked cool
@jeffkardosjr.3825
@jeffkardosjr.3825 4 года назад
Got boring when the cars no longer resembled real cars.
@CaptainWoogie06
@CaptainWoogie06 4 года назад
The cars look exactly like the real ones, I don’t know what you’re talking about
@brandonplaisted8194
@brandonplaisted8194 4 года назад
@@CaptainWoogie06 that's the point. why see cars racing that looks like one you can get from the dealer.
@IGuessVince
@IGuessVince 4 года назад
Brandon Plaisted I don’t know about you, but if I see a regular Toyota Camry going 200+ on a track you better believe that’s gonna get more attention than some exotic car
@jakesdrippin5334
@jakesdrippin5334 4 года назад
Makes no sense because at the sports most popular the cars weren’t close to street cars at all
@KristiLEvans1
@KristiLEvans1 4 года назад
And when the drivers quit resembling real racers.
@pennyandwoody
@pennyandwoody 2 года назад
The biggest issue for me was the chase and the nascar playoffs. The reasons a race is exciting is speed and the amount of competition per race. When they were at their highest, there were 43 drivers per race. When the play offs happened at the end of the season you have a low number of drivers. Whos going to watch 4 drivers run around a track? Also the other thing that kills a Nascar race, the stages. It stops the race dead. Stops all momentum of the race. It makes no sense at all. They do it for safety reasons, but seeing drivers living on the edge and seeing wrecks is what made racing exciting.
@RJMachine62
@RJMachine62 2 года назад
1) They priced themselves out of it. Greed 2) As enthusiasm dwindled, they started changing the rules to make it more interesting. 3) The new savior Kyle Busch that cheats and gets praised for it. 4) The older guys that been there forever were being forced out or just got tired of the politics of it all.
@johncrandall5782
@johncrandall5782 5 лет назад
I lived in Richmond, VA when Dale died. After that every car on the road had a "3" sticker on their cars. Now you never see them. Not only that you almost never see NASCAR stickers on cars. My all time favorite was the car I saw with a ton of Jeff Gordon stickers, and also a gay pride sticker
@IntrovertedOreo
@IntrovertedOreo 5 лет назад
@Noah G. Beat me to it! 😂
@KaiDub24
@KaiDub24 5 лет назад
I miss the rivalries.. Part of what makes a sport exciting isn't just the teams or drivers you love.. It's those you love to hate.. And as a Gordon fan, I had mad respect for Earnhardt but man oh man did I love it whenever Gordon beat his ass 😂
@rancidbeef582
@rancidbeef582 5 лет назад
@@KaiDub24 And years ago the rivalry between Bobby Allison and Cale Yarborough.
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 5 лет назад
@Noah G. Fuck off.
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 5 лет назад
It's not the 90s anymore, grow up.
@StephenMorganCanada
@StephenMorganCanada 5 лет назад
Loss of “Stock” in stock car, and stupid rules that made NASCAR the WWE of motorsport.
@mrpalaces
@mrpalaces 5 лет назад
When did NASCAR stopped using stock cars (even if modified) for racing and switched to those tubular chasis things pretending to be stock cars?
@billsteinbachiii3461
@billsteinbachiii3461 5 лет назад
Cars haven't been "stock" since about 1965...
@StephenMorganCanada
@StephenMorganCanada 5 лет назад
Bill Steinbach III Technically true. But the area of the Bill Elliot aerobirds still looked exactly like the cars sold to the public.
@SeraphoftheRoundTable
@SeraphoftheRoundTable 4 года назад
@@mrpalaces They started that back in the 1980's.
@VROSHARD
@VROSHARD 4 года назад
Nikki S. That is true
@gjad813
@gjad813 Год назад
Born in ‘62 and became a NASCAR Grand National fan in ‘73. I missed a lot of great racing action before my time as a fan. Richard Petty was my guy. STP was “The Sponsor”; The Racers Edge! My dad drove a Dodge, so I was locked in. Grand National Stock Car Racing was of a different time. A time when real drivers and their gutsy crews stepped up to work their asses off on the track to support their families while thrilling all the fans. Those guys were heroes for the shows they put on and sometimes gave their lives for. NASCAR and NHRA’s brand association motto, “Win on Sunday, sell on Monday” was a real thing. All the factory Hi Perf cars Dodge, Plymouth, Ford, Mercury, Chevrolet, Olds, Pontiac, Buick and AMC put out during the golden years of muscle cars was one of the most special times of my life. I was lucky enough to be around when these masterpieces were just cars on the streets. It really was a great time to be alive. Now many of the same cars are rare, highly coveted and super expensive. Today, all we have is the Challenger, Mustang and Camaro. None of these Pony cars were in NASCAR back in the day. They were built for the TransAm Series. The fact that they are in present day NASCAR along with the Toyota Camry is one of the many the reasons that NASCAR is dead. I haven’t been to or seen a NASCAR race on TV since the “Car of tomorrow”. I had become a Jeff Gordon fan. When the 48 team won 5 straight championships, that’s when fat lady sang on NASCAR. Other reasons: -When the cars stopped being derived from actual stock full sized factory 2 door rear wheel drive coupes. -When big money sponsorships became a necessity to compete. -When single car Owner/Driver teams were forced out. -When NASCAR became a spec racing series like IROC. What happened to “If you ain’t cheatin’, you ain’t tryin’!? -When NASCAR alienated their core Southern fans and tracks to “Grow the sport”! They were just greedy. Had they had the intelligence to know the audiences NASCAR was already reaching in the early 70’s without stepping on too many toes they would have taken baby steps toward improvements and expansion. -NASCAR pissed away it’s product. The intrigue of the moonshine runners outrunning the police in their specially modified and tuned cars. Now it’s just good money after bad aimed at the goal of making something that was once so relevant, so American die a disgraceful death.
@isaacclark9825
@isaacclark9825 2 года назад
No mention of a huge reason. NASCAR is limited in how much of it can grow because of its ambiance. Huge segments of the population are not going anywhere near the track because of the impression that they are not welcome there. You can argue that the impression is wrong, but you cannot deny the perception. All of the whining we hear about not being able to bring Confederate flags to race tracks certainly does not help.
@KBBHPro
@KBBHPro 4 года назад
NASCAR has lost its personality! The drivers have no personality, the tracks have no personality and the cars have no personality. Too many cookie cutter tracks and cookie cutter drivers!
@mowguy1
@mowguy1 4 года назад
Well said.
@jackwarren1687
@jackwarren1687 4 года назад
All of the things you mentioned that don't have personality except one...aren't persons...ur an idiot
@Dannyjoemustanggt
@Dannyjoemustanggt 4 года назад
Straight line racing has came back with a vengeance and is not going anywhere for sometime.
@g_men2121
@g_men2121 4 года назад
KBBHPro thanks to kyle busch
@Mr360cuda
@Mr360cuda 4 года назад
If a driver tries to stand out one or off the track “ They are fines,suspended and mitigated!
@ZacharyLaid
@ZacharyLaid 5 лет назад
Will Ferrell made a movie on them at the peak, now *nobody cares.*
@WitchTrials92
@WitchTrials92 5 лет назад
It's weird with me with that movie I hate Talladega Nights with a passion because it's so stupid but I love it the movie would have been so much better if Ricky just said I love Crepes which they're actually pretty good had one and worked with Girard but nope drama simple as that Edit two scenes in that movie I always skip can't get through them hate them whatever that dumb dinner scene and the hospital after Ricky's big wreck where Carly thinks he's dying so stupid
@WitchTrials92
@WitchTrials92 5 лет назад
@Noah Wetzel I'm not starting anything
@1sonyzz
@1sonyzz 5 лет назад
same as those shopping MALL's in US plenty of them sitting there - empty built in 1970's or 1980's
@WitchTrials92
@WitchTrials92 5 лет назад
@Noah Wetzel oh
@WitchTrials92
@WitchTrials92 5 лет назад
@@1sonyzz two words online shopping more convenient people are too lazy these days
@Ettrix
@Ettrix 3 года назад
Imagine, if it were possible, that the NBA transformed all players + restricted them to 6'5", then made them wear weighted shoes so they couldn't jump too high... I guarantee the same thing would happen to their viewership
@hennagan99
@hennagan99 2 года назад
When the legendary #3 Dale "The Intimidator" Earnhardt passed away God rest his soul, so did NASCAR in my opinion.
@allamericanwiseass2794
@allamericanwiseass2794 4 года назад
Restrictor plates and the “Chase” format. End of story
@fredrickhex668
@fredrickhex668 4 года назад
Ok
@phillipgage7356
@phillipgage7356 4 года назад
Yup. Truth. In addition to what you said let’s just add this: $$$. Money happened to nascar. It was about the good old boys getting together and racing and before long it became too expensive for your average Joe to go racing on Friday night- that THAT is what happened to nascar. We, the next generation, didn’t have a chance to fall in love with racing because the guys with money drove the average Joe out of contention and let’s face it; losing sucks. Just like losing Earnhardt sucks. Just like losing nascar sucks. Just like losing my dad, sucked. He was the biggest fan....and now he’s gone, and so is nascar. It died with him, to me.
@e.t.3165
@e.t.3165 4 года назад
I'm not a NASCAR fan. Watch it only when I come across while browsing tv channels. No idea about restrictor plates. Where are they mounted on the car? And why is it the reason for the decline of NASCAR? Or so you said. Sorry for my english. My second language.
@soul-heart
@soul-heart 4 года назад
@@e.t.3165 I'm not sure why restrictor plates could be the cause of the fall of Nascar. But a restrictor plate is a piece of metal with 4 holes that is placed in between the carburetor and intake manifold to reduce air flow into the engine which makes the cars run at lower horsepower and speed. Nascar implemented them to try to create more exciting races at Daytona and Talladega (where the cars run full out for most of the race) because Nascar executives though the race was getting too boring because certain racers would have a huge lead that no one could catch up to them. Except now everyone is in the same pack and can't get to the front or move from their spot without the high risk of a wreck that takes out more than half the pack or fall behind to a point where they can't win. Upon stumbling onto new info, restrictor plates were also implemented to try to cover safety concerns about tires blowing up do to being unable to handle the intense speeds and g forces around the turns.
@satanicpizza6666
@satanicpizza6666 4 года назад
Bro restrictor plates have been around since the eighties, that’s not one of the reasons
@anonymoususer6185
@anonymoususer6185 5 лет назад
So doc from cars illegally smuggled alcohol....cool
@tangydiesel1886
@tangydiesel1886 5 лет назад
Wasn't that brought out in cars 3?
@anonymoususer6185
@anonymoususer6185 5 лет назад
Yeah the same time period (i think) on dirt roads and the pictures even look like cars 3: 2:00
@UmmYeahOk
@UmmYeahOk 5 лет назад
Doc was a 50s car, prohibition had long ended. But in Cars 3, we meet other racers who knew Doc, who became slow and obsolete because of Doc. And without going out and saying it, because children, they trained McQueen and indirectly Cruz, as if they were smuggling booze just like in old times. One of the cars was a 30s model, and obviously did just this.
@pedrosarellanoestrada5950
@pedrosarellanoestrada5950 5 лет назад
@@UmmYeahOk they outright said it in the scene where they were driving through the night
@anonymoususer6185
@anonymoususer6185 5 лет назад
so doc didn't smuggle alcohol but the other older characters he replaced did?
@larrybrown3951
@larrybrown3951 2 года назад
The day they let Toyota on the track, NASCAR was dead to me.
@davidsavage8333
@davidsavage8333 2 года назад
I have to agree
@hmssignshop5103
@hmssignshop5103 2 года назад
why?
@Scurvydog00
@Scurvydog00 2 года назад
Those "Toyotas" you see in NASCAR have as much to do with a real Toyota as your lawnmower does.
@lilwill6985
@lilwill6985 2 года назад
Fun fact: 2007... the first year they raced in Cup... the Camry was the only car in the Series built in America.
@amascia8327
@amascia8327 2 года назад
@@hmssignshop5103 This may be the reason (Just guessing though)... 《What engine does Toyota use in NASCAR? - Quora ... It's a Toyota engine you cannot buy. There are racing shops that will build one for you--but you could probably buy a modest house for what that would cost. It's basically an eight cylinder 16 valve, small-block Chevy overhead-valve (pushrod) desi...》... so the Toyota NASCAR car is a total fiction. Not that I care, though. I don't watch any more.
@kevinmach730
@kevinmach730 2 года назад
Watching cars go around an oval track for hours was never that exciting, but getting in your RV, tailgating and grilling for 3 days at the site of the race, and drinking a cold one at 11am on a Saturday seemed kind of fun. The social and party crowd aspect was a huge part of their fan base. Kind of like owning a boat for many of us- it's fun for a few years and then one day you wake up think "Why am I dedicating so much time and money to this??"
@blitzkrieg2003
@blitzkrieg2003 5 лет назад
Lost interest in Nascar in my late teens (2004ish) when I discovered WRC/Rally and Road Course racing with more realistic cars.
@bobochan4699
@bobochan4699 5 лет назад
WRC better.. in all aspects.. challenging courses, endurance, driver skills n drama too.. esp the horrific crash..
@steveroyer1628
@steveroyer1628 5 лет назад
I like DTM. They don't try to look like stock cars. They should try that formula in USA.
@jansencunin
@jansencunin 5 лет назад
Racing around in circles is boring.
@Derpy-qg9hn
@Derpy-qg9hn 5 лет назад
WRX too, where bashing into another car hard enough to concuss is simply standard driving procedure.
@steveroyer1628
@steveroyer1628 5 лет назад
@@jansencunin and they have plenty of road race course they could use. Not in Nascar I agree but as I was saying, show us some tuned Camaros, Stangs, Hellcat Challengers. Don't try to make em look like stupid stock cars. We know they are not. I'm sure the Japos would jump in a serie with their new NS-X and Supras, even Mercedes, Audis and BMWs...
@longdog7
@longdog7 4 года назад
"The car with the chevy decals, passed the car with the ford decals, but couldn't catch the car with the toyota decals". That's the issue: no more stock in stock car racing! Back in the 60's, 70's, 80's besides the drivers, people cheered on the cars also. It was called brand loyalty. Try using camaros, mustangs, and challengers in "stock form", along with production based engines.
@iillestrs2153
@iillestrs2153 4 года назад
I mean technically manufacturers still make the motors for thier brand cars. It just has to be within spec, but Chevy still builds the motors for Chevy cars, ect
@ArchangelGR22
@ArchangelGR22 4 года назад
@@iillestrs2153 Doesn't really matters if the company makes the motors, when an engine has to be within specs with all others well you kinda have the same engine in every car. The system isn't even flexible everything has to be within specs or else you can't compete. That really takes away from every sport not only NASCAR.
@TripleAlfafa
@TripleAlfafa 4 года назад
The GT3 format of SRO has successfully created a production car based system that's both cost-effective and diverse fields of cars thanks to an effective Balance of Power system and a Homologation requirement for every car. Perhaps take a few notes from those fellas since there's about 20 racing series that use the system they have.
@iarp4965
@iarp4965 4 года назад
The challengers would have to be changed to Chargers because challengers are rather brick-like.
@curtissmith2679
@curtissmith2679 4 года назад
Does Toyota build an OHV STOCK PRODUCTION engine? Hell no
@benyaamiin701
@benyaamiin701 2 года назад
A useless playoff system. Cautions every third of the race in addition to competition cautions way too often. Over eagerness to throw cautions, and a tendency for a while to seem like they were manipulating races with cautions. And then you have tracks like Bristol which reconfigured a track that was perfect and made it less interesting. NASCAR gained its highest popularity in mid-2000s when everything was mostly the same it had been, it didn't need to change. Everything has dropped with all subsequent changes from there on.
@bobby6715
@bobby6715 2 года назад
The biggest problem in the past 10 years is they've lost some of that star power. Drivers like Kasey Kahne, Jimmie Johnson, Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Danica Patrick, Dale Earnhardt Jr, and more have all retired. But in my opinion, I feel like with the new car, which puts on great racing and is definitely pleasant to look at, and generally being more ethical as far as progressiveness to be appealling to younger and a wider audience, NASCAR's stopped the bleeding and is going to make a comeback soon. Tune in this weekend at pheonix for example, it'll be a fun one I'm sure, just like the last 3 weeks. Or watch the 10 minute highlights nascar on fox puts out on RU-vid of the last race or two.
@fluffy13bondjames92
@fluffy13bondjames92 2 года назад
corona definitely hurt it but I think they are doing the right things to reverse the bleeding. More varied tracks and closer racing is what people want from motorsports in general.
@tommaryott4957
@tommaryott4957 4 года назад
The personality in nascar is gone... Remember how they treated Jimmy Spencer..??? Nascar turned it's back on the common man.. The end...
@jackwarren1687
@jackwarren1687 4 года назад
Tom Maryott jimmy spencer was a moron , good riddance
@daleeasterwood2683
@daleeasterwood2683 4 года назад
Agree that NASCAR turned its back on the common man, who used to fill the stands. I started going to races in the mid 1970s and you had access to just about the entire track. Then corporate sponsors came along and started buying up tickets and handing them out to employees who really didn’t care about racing. They started blocking access to different parts of the stands and raising prices so they could have the upper crust separated from the “peons”. Wouldn’t want to mingle with the riff raff. The drivers had personalities and rivalries and the racing was exciting. As the older drivers retired, in came no name drivers with zero personality. To make things worse they have screwed with the rules to supposedly make it more competitive. I hate the stages of the races. It’s like giving trophies for participation.
@trans8010
@trans8010 4 года назад
@@daleeasterwood2683 this! Stage racing doesnt reward skill or power but who happens to be the top 5 cars during the last 3 laps of a stage. It's about luck more than anything. 10 years ago Joey Logano would not have won a championship. Stage racing made that possible.
@TravJam317
@TravJam317 4 года назад
I live in North Carolina, deep in Nascar country and I couldn't name 5 current Nascar drivers if I tried. The 80s and 90s were my peak years for Nascar. I've only watched one full race since the day Dale Sr died.
@matonmongo
@matonmongo 4 года назад
@@daleeasterwood2683 Welcome to Capitalism and 'the Wisdom of the Free Market'. ;-p
@bayareaadventures4432
@bayareaadventures4432 4 года назад
Gordon fans quit watching when the chase cost him 3 championships
@heknows5418
@heknows5418 4 года назад
Bay Area Adventures you got that right, Jeff was the best thing to happen to NASCAR, they killed the goose that laid the golden egg, to put into southern lingo.
@thegoodsmaster
@thegoodsmaster 4 года назад
Jeff Gordon was what tiger woods was to golf. And outsider winning shit ton of competitions.
@outlaw2448
@outlaw2448 4 года назад
That's when I left. And also Jimmie's string of consecutive championships. Not his fault, he played the game like everyone did.
@adamjohnson913
@adamjohnson913 4 года назад
I would say the best personalities on the track were Jeff Gordon and Tony Stewart. Once the two of them started to fall of and become less relevant, people stopped caring as much. It also got more boring when Jimmy Johnson kept winning. It would have been fine if he had more personality, but he is just too boring a person to carry a sport.
@KristiLEvans1
@KristiLEvans1 4 года назад
Gordon fans were going to quit watching when he was done, no matter what. By the time he retired, the sport was unrecognizable.
@cfergusn
@cfergusn 2 года назад
Decline... TMS was packed with over 150K people in the early to mid 2000's. Now they barely pack the front stretch. Lets be real, too many changes, less stock more dedicated cars, less manufacturers, toned down everything... rule changes, inconsistent penalties, and going woke!
@thetruthisreal4033
@thetruthisreal4033 2 года назад
Tbh, the sport was huge. The whole aura of it was massive. It was mainly a Dad-Son event. My dad got me into it cause of he love of Dale Earnhardt Sr and then I loved it and we carried the tradition every Sunday watching his son. But what actually killed the sport was the constant rule changes and terrible car changes. Alot of Drivers was very vocal about how things went south literally "North". The sponsors lost intrest and great veteran drivers moved to other territories.
@TheUnholyPosole
@TheUnholyPosole 5 лет назад
I used to watch NASCAR....now I watch grass grow, because it's more exciting.
@miguelmejia4656
@miguelmejia4656 5 лет назад
R no need for all caps. it's not that exciting..
@codycast
@codycast 5 лет назад
R something tells me if you used to find nascar worth watching, you wouldn’t say it’s like watching grass grow. Why lie? You’ve never been interested in nascar. And that’s okay but no reason to make shit up
@zzz7zzz9
@zzz7zzz9 5 лет назад
and yet here you are watching nascar youtube videos??? quit lying, you watch nascar and still cheer it on.
@weeezeeewee4780
@weeezeeewee4780 5 лет назад
I watched this RU-vid video because I'm interested in the way that others see the sport I once enjoyed die! It is as boring as soccer really!. Restricter plates killed it forever
@zzz7zzz9
@zzz7zzz9 5 лет назад
@@weeezeeewee4780 dude, nascar has ALWAYS been boring. It's driving in a circle, over and over and over and over, etc, etc, etc, etc. Maybe as people get older they are now seeing it for what it is.
@edwalton7689
@edwalton7689 4 года назад
I stopped going regularly when we lost our races at North Wilksboro, and Rockingham.
@KristiLEvans1
@KristiLEvans1 4 года назад
Ed Walton been to both of those tracks. May they Rest In Peace.
@TommyTwoYooks
@TommyTwoYooks 4 года назад
Winston Salem still has bowman grey but it’s rapidly decaying
@TommyTwoYooks
@TommyTwoYooks 4 года назад
Haven’t been in years
@JoseRBarrientos
@JoseRBarrientos 4 года назад
I grew up in Surry and Yadkin county area. When I learned that NASCAR originated in North Carolina but then they decided to abandon their roots, I was completely disappointed. I wish I could still love the sport but I just can't anymore.
@ronduckman3970
@ronduckman3970 4 года назад
That right now I went to.....
@gloriaannopperman2734
@gloriaannopperman2734 11 месяцев назад
The Oppermans from Texas will always love and miss Dale Earnhardt Sr, your fans forever. Yes, Dale Earnhardt Sr was the only reason we followed Nascar because we were devoted to Dale and his racing. When we lost Dale we lost our desire to watch afterwards. We followed Neil Bonnett plus Dale since they were best buddies. We have not watched since 2001 when Dale Sr died. Thank you from Jerry and Sugar Bear and Gloria and Bear, Dale Earnhardt Sr fans forever
@RogerBates7
@RogerBates7 Год назад
You hit on all the points. What it came down to was that Nascar was always playing by themselves in the corner, doing their own thing. Then, in the 80s & 90s, they exploded and suddenly they were playing in the sandbox with the "cool kids" (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL) and they liked the toys over there better. Once the big TV money came in and Dale left us, tragically, (still breaks my heart) then NASCAR began to appeal to their new champagne fanbase and changed their rules to match the big 4, whereas it was no longer a marathon regular season, but rather a playoff with a shorter window to compete for a title. Their mindset was not entirely off base, but they veered too far away from what they were and the people they were marketing to, were not in it for the long haul.
@chrislarsen5110
@chrislarsen5110 5 лет назад
I have been a NASCAR fan since the 70's. I stopped watching it probably around 2010 and haven't followed it at all, other than cursory checks once in awhile, for probably the last 5 years. Here is my take: 1. The current format is NOT racing. It's a bunch of potty breaks for the drivers of the vehicles as well as a chance for the network to squeeze in a few more commercials. 2. The drivers are whiny and succumb to the "it's everyone else's fault but mine" mentality whenever ANYTHING goes wrong. 3. People used to care about who drove what. Win on Sunday, sell on Monday. Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Plymouth, Buick, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Mercury. Cars that were recognizable and actually looked like something you could go down to the dealership and purchase. Today's cars are nothing more than templates with pretty much only stickers and the shape of the rear side windows to tell them apart. To that end, I believe the manufacturers (Dodge for example) gave up because they were tired of NASCAR continually changing the rules for bodies. 4. The announcers. Darrell Waltrip in particular. A 4th rate announcer, a 2nd rate driver and a 1st rate asshole. I couldn't be happier he's gone. Annoying and biased. Good riddance. 5. The points system. A championship should ONLY be for a driver who is the best and most consistent over the course of a season and not just for 10 (or whatever it is) races. It's simply an "everybody gets a trophy" mindset. There are more reasons, but I think I've made a point. I now watch the Virgin Australia Supercars Championship Series. It's basically Australian NASCAR. Check that out for far more interesting racing.
@xoxoxoxoxo7997
@xoxoxoxoxo7997 5 лет назад
Totally agree. Especially 1-3
@xoxoxoxoxo7997
@xoxoxoxoxo7997 5 лет назад
And 5 lol
@weirdfan88
@weirdfan88 5 лет назад
I think Dodge left because it was becoming to expensive
@kwashelby2010
@kwashelby2010 4 года назад
boogity boogity boogity down that backstraight! LOL, sticking a finger down my throat.
@codynorris593
@codynorris593 4 года назад
Dodge is still in the Nascar Pintys series. Just saying...
@GiantRobot7621
@GiantRobot7621 4 года назад
The main reason I stopped watching: The Chase. Stopped watching when all these rules for the chase were implemented. It's so dumb and gets worse every year in my opinion. I really do not feel like the best driver of the season wins, it's a garbage system.
@williama.3652
@williama.3652 4 года назад
Now they are getting political with that black lives matter car 🤦🏻‍♂️
@johnjones5354
@johnjones5354 4 года назад
While "the chase" was bad, and it's subsequent variations were worse, what lost many people, including myself, is the extremely stupid "stage racing". If you want to award points at intervals throughout the event, that's one thing. But when you throw a yellow at the end of a "stage", you are affecting the flow of the race, the strategy, and the ultimate outcome. The other rule changes were also detrimental, GWC, "lucky dog" etc, but it was the stage nonsense that did it for me.
@GiantRobot7621
@GiantRobot7621 4 года назад
@@johnjones5354 Well said!
@seanwarner9893
@seanwarner9893 4 года назад
Gordon would have like 7 championships if not for the Chase!
@johnskiotis5492
@johnskiotis5492 3 года назад
@@williama.3652 there's also a Trump car 🤷‍♂️
@Xnate13X
@Xnate13X 2 года назад
I stopped watching in 2015 when Jeff Gordon retired. I grew up loving Nascar with my dad, the crashes and competition was my favorite! I still remember the race Dale Earnhardt died in, my dad was SO sad because he was my dad's favorite. Jeff Gordon was my favorite. We'd always watch and tease each other on how well they're doing in the race. Then Dale Earnhardt Jr became my dad's new favorite but it wasn't the same.. We both stopped watching it as much as we used to, but still did. I stopped watching it when Jeff Gordon retired and my dad stopped watching it two years later when Jr retired. No one watches MMA because they're pillow fighting, they watch it for the brutality. No one wants to watch Nascar if it's safe and barely any risk for death.. It's boring like that. If you're going to be getting paid millions of dollars, there needs to be life risk or it's boring as heck to me. For example, I hate sports like football, baseball, soccer, etc.. because they're boring. Take away basically all the rules of Nascar and turn it into, "anything goes"(obviously pertaining to racing) and I think you'd pull in a CRAP load more people/views. Allowing people to use whatever they want on their cars and not limit much at all would add an insane amount of fun and risk to it. The riskier you are with your life, the more money you could make by winning. Danger is fun, going around in circles for 3hrs with barely anything happening is not. The crashes and brutal competition make Nascar, Nascar.
@marcohunter7218
@marcohunter7218 2 года назад
Same as me bro. When Jeff Retired, then Tony Stewart, then Edwards, then Jr....i was like, welp not really interested in the new crop of drivers. I mean I think the #24 has had 3 or 4 drivers since Jeff retired. The Busch brothers kept me invested for a minute but when you dont have a personal favorite its pretty boring
@Ukrainian-woman-of-your-dreams
@Ukrainian-woman-of-your-dreams 2 года назад
2 things that can possibly help NASCAR business get back to the top: 1). Letting younger people (in their 20's and 30's) ride, drive, and compete in racing car races 2). Making race car video games, game apps, toys, etc. for the younger generation
@42crazyguy
@42crazyguy 5 лет назад
"Oh yeah I used to like racing but then I became more environmentally conscious." -No-one ever.
@Sorcerers_Apprentice
@Sorcerers_Apprentice 5 лет назад
The people who care about the environment would never even get into NASCAR in the first place.
@q......
@q...... 5 лет назад
I think the point was more or less along the lines of new people coming into the sport. As older people dropped off, newer would come in and keep the numbers up. Due to environmental concerns with the newer generations they stopped coming to the sport in the numbers they used to. I get what you are saying, but it just misses the point I think.
@dogphlap6749
@dogphlap6749 5 лет назад
Actually that's me but not NASCAR, Formula 1 and Rallying. But I changed. Would you believe I now drive a Tesla, it's true.
@adalecarter
@adalecarter 5 лет назад
That's not just funny but very true!!
@duradim1
@duradim1 5 лет назад
Well you know this millennial who put this video together doesn't know any better.
@kevinshaw1014
@kevinshaw1014 5 лет назад
Good video, but one other factor is the ticket prices soaring. For a largely blue collar audience, tickets being 60 dollars is crazy to watch cars drive
@RippingItAllSportsCards
@RippingItAllSportsCards 5 лет назад
But they went down from the good ol days
@wilkinlow
@wilkinlow 5 лет назад
We have so much entertainment nowadays, nascar us going to be ibsoletet
@rodneywaugh8535
@rodneywaugh8535 5 лет назад
$60?????..... That's cheap.....you might want to double that
@RippingItAllSportsCards
@RippingItAllSportsCards 5 лет назад
Maybe for the best seats. I can get tickets for both races at Dega this October for 50. MIS at 39, Kentucky I paid 49.
@kipkyzer9298
@kipkyzer9298 5 лет назад
How long have you been going??? When NASCAR was at its peek Bristol night race was over 1500.00 and impossible to get. Harder than Masters tickets
@nocturnaleffects7755
@nocturnaleffects7755 2 года назад
I feel like I’ve watched NASCAR / NHRA almost my whole life. Also spent my childhood and into my 30’s at the local tracks and strips. You’ve made many valid points especially the cars being almost identical. Part of the excitement was “backing your brand.” I couldn’t even tell you if he Manufacturer Standings still exist. This was the point of “Stock” or “Super Stock”, brand against brand. The new drivers don’t stand out at all. The passion and skill isn’t there like it used to be. You followed drivers because they could push the boundaries skillfully to win races. Mostly, I think Hollywood also helped the decline of the sport. Car racing and car culture movies get right into the action, non stop, with a story line. NASCAR could do a way better job of telling the story of their drivers, crews, etc. to keep the momentum going. In the days before internet and instant gratification, we learned about our drivers and brands through print media that helped build the culture. We were invested in them. While that may still exist, most don’t rely on big media to point us in the direction of who or what is new and exciting.
@anitariley2681
@anitariley2681 2 года назад
Prohibitive ticket prices could be one cause. They bill themselves as family-friendly. Now what family of four or more can afford $39.00 four times????
@mitchcolburn1216
@mitchcolburn1216 4 года назад
They got away from their Southern roots and it backfired on them. I'm not saying they can't have tracks outside the South, but its primarily fanbase was always in the South, and that's where it made its most money.
@Evangelionism
@Evangelionism 5 лет назад
*I used to be a MAJOR NASCAR enthusiast..,* *...but then **_everything changed when the 2010s attacked._*
@thetman0068
@thetman0068 5 лет назад
Thanks Obama... Oh god no that was a joke!
@Evangelionism
@Evangelionism 5 лет назад
@@thetman0068 Come to my chat.
@SeanStrife
@SeanStrife 5 лет назад
@Deplorabology I think NASCAR's done a good enough job fucking itself over; it didn't need Obama outlawing anything.
@steveherron9978
@steveherron9978 Год назад
Your reasons for Nascar's decline are spot on. Here are some other things from my perspective: 1) Too many slow road races on weird tracks with bus stops and chicanes ??? and in weird places, like an idiotic LA Coliseum race to start the season or a "can't wait" Chicago city race soon. Nascar people hate big cities. More Talladega, less LA. 2) It's gotten very PC and going overboard to bring in new groups of fans (which is good) but in a transparent patronizing way (which is counterproductive). For example, Nascar and the TV announcers gush unearned praise on mediocre drivers Bubba Wallace and Daniel Suarez for every little thing they do, and it's turning fans off who don't care about a driver's race but how a driver races. 3) Nascar driver's today aren't allowed to be themselves like the old drivers - they get their testosterone and competitive spirit shut down by Nascar management. Imagine if these executives ran professional wrestling, it might look more like square dancing. 4) The races on TV have an unbearable number of nearly endless commercials. Ten laps into this year's Daytona 500 there were even 18 commercials in a row! Don't the races have sponsors already? I have actually stopped watching Nascar on TV. Now, I listen to MRN or PRN on the radio because it's more enjoyable, then watch the highlights on the Nascar app.
@bradleyp9829
@bradleyp9829 2 года назад
I live near the Charlotte Motor Speedway and I think the end started when they came out with the car of tomorrow. You could no longer go to the local dealer and buy a street version of the car you saw win the day before.
@mikekubican
@mikekubican 4 года назад
I used to attend 2-4 races a year. I had a motorhome to attend, some tracks made it less friendly for us, so I sold it. TV rights, used to be able to watch without having a top tier cable package, also start times all over the place. New, entitled drivers. Constant rule changing and boring racing, mandatory cautions?
@KristiLEvans1
@KristiLEvans1 4 года назад
Mike Kubican wait. Mandatory cautions? My dad STILL watches. We all got into it in about 1979. I’m SHOCKED to hear that my dad is sitting through mandatory cautions. WTAF is that about???
@KristiLEvans1
@KristiLEvans1 4 года назад
Holy Toledo. I was a HUGE Darrell Waltrip fan. Still watched after he was gone, but round the time Earnhardt died, I was mostly out. I can’t believe the crazy changes Brian France instituted. He was just in over his head - most people would be, I imagine.
@aBamaMelmsie
@aBamaMelmsie 4 года назад
@@KristiLEvans1 its what they are calling "Stage" racing. The races are being broken up into three "stages" where they throw a caution flag at the end of those stages and then they decided to give them extra points for winning those stages
@ffr8186
@ffr8186 3 года назад
@@aBamaMelmsie Love the idea of stage racing, hate the mandatory cautions. I still watch because the racing is fairly good most weeks but I have to bite my tongue nearly every week with those cautions. They just need to award the points and let the racers keep racing.
@budlamy3870
@budlamy3870 2 года назад
Amen!
@oldmanyellingattv4533
@oldmanyellingattv4533 4 года назад
Still to this day most people have broadcast TV and if you haven't noticed cable TV is going down to who wants to pay $120 a month to watch commercials all day
@Republican_Extremest
@Republican_Extremest 4 года назад
I watch everything online free I don't pay to stream anything. Movies, music, t.v. series all free I pay $30 a month for 10mps of bandwidth that's it. I can find all the shows and movies that Netflix and Hulu offer I can see any movie even the ones in theaters a week after their release. RU-vid is the only offender of advertisements at this point.
@WilliamHollinger2019
@WilliamHollinger2019 4 года назад
Same here my dad pays $95 for dish each month and i am like can we just have Over The Air or use Netflix more. Today's show are 🗑.
@alidaweber1023
@alidaweber1023 4 года назад
@@WilliamHollinger2019 I quit watching television awhile ago. Too little entertainment value across the board.
@aBamaMelmsie
@aBamaMelmsie 4 года назад
the latest TV deal where NBC was awarded the second half of the season and ESPN didn't even get a chance to bid on it. After that we got stage races and a lot more races on NBCSN hoping NASCAR fans would buy a bigger cable bundle to help offset the cost of their TV deal, instead NASCAR fans turned off the TV
@yell0wberry
@yell0wberry 4 года назад
Wow, I’m looking at the prices you folks pay for cable, that’s pretty cheap compared to the $260 a month I had to pay because I was living in a co-op and couldn’t get much of a choice on what to watch
@joed3264
@joed3264 Год назад
What killed NASCAR? Restrictor plates. The cars are all the same under the body work. The only reason people go to Talladega 500 is the see "The Big One". crash.
@17primemover
@17primemover 2 года назад
The safety is not what bores me. What bores me is the increased road course racing. If I want to watch cars going 90 miles an hour, I'll go sit next to I-94.
@rayh592
@rayh592 4 года назад
Car of tomorrow, no racing to the flag, overpricing, cookie cutter tracks, no short track month, stage racing, there are hundreds of reasons, basically - corporate greed.
@prepperandson1399
@prepperandson1399 4 года назад
New stupid ass rules
@ronmeidlinger249
@ronmeidlinger249 4 года назад
Corporate f's up everything
@Flatlower
@Flatlower 4 года назад
OMG stage racing...i tried to watch the daytona 500 and couldn't put up with it. Done with it.
@trans8010
@trans8010 4 года назад
Stage racing was what caused my exit from the sport.
@timhook2086
@timhook2086 4 года назад
Theyre all ovals. Whats this cookie cutter shit youre talking about? Its not Formula 1.
@brandonburley3080
@brandonburley3080 5 лет назад
I'm a younger guy (24), always been into cars, I know a lot about mechanics and working on cars And yet...I've NEVER found Nascar entertaining! Watching 40+ cars (that are all the same tightly regulated cookie-cutter template) go in a circle for hours on end, on T.V... it's just not interesting IMO
@brandonburley3080
@brandonburley3080 5 лет назад
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: HUH??!! What part of "I've always been into cars, and know a lot about working on cars" did you not understand?!
@MickeyD2012
@MickeyD2012 5 лет назад
It's because of restrictor plates and safety regulations. It used to be more exciting.
@Searly255
@Searly255 5 лет назад
In the US IMSA is a much better motorsport IMO it has all the driver talent and new works teams seem to join every year, the races are still long but the multi class system thats always existed in sports car racing makes it more appealing, to a younger audience the teams testing a lot of green tech also helps
@jorceshaman
@jorceshaman 5 лет назад
@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: Are you talking to yourself in the mirror again? You're offended by someone voicing a reasonable opinion. You don't even see the irony in calling someone else a snowflake.
@brandonburley3080
@brandonburley3080 5 лет назад
@K W Yeah, if I grew up back then...I probably would have been into it. But I wasn't around for those better more exciting days
@shishkbob5894
@shishkbob5894 2 года назад
Well, I think you're spot on. I attended races for over a decade. I'm still a casual fan, but I hardly watch it anymore. The proverbial nail in the coffin for me was the constant changing of the point system. They created The Chase to compete with stick and ball sports. They tried to create a "playoff" atmosphere. Many hated it. Now, it's just ridiculous. If I turn on a race, I'm completely lost. If they went back to just racing to win for the entire year, I'd watch again.
@sevendst19
@sevendst19 2 года назад
I started watching NASCAR when I was 6 years old in 1989. I watched damn near every race from then until 2011-2012 minus some races missed during my enlistment in the military. My favorite driver retired in 2005, I never liked the rule changes, the points changes, the no racing to the yellow flag, the giving a lap back to competitors for no reason at all, you used to have to pass the leader to get a lap back. I tried to watch a race a few months ago and they have these "stages" now which reminds me of quarters in a basketball game. I wouldn't even mind this if they didn't throw a yellow and stop the field for no reason, it's a race, let them race, you're supposed to have pit, fuel, and tire strategy play into who wins. Now that's essentially gone. I find myself on youtube watching old races now and I have no interest in the sport any longer. I don't even recognize most of the driver names anymore
@jirolaxamana7832
@jirolaxamana7832 5 лет назад
There’s something about the way you present your content that just gets me hooked. Love your videos man. Keep it up!
@chairmankaga2821
@chairmankaga2821 5 лет назад
I started watching NASCAR in the 70's and lost interest when they started the new "Chase" format. It's not 'racing' anymore.
@timothyonipad
@timothyonipad 5 лет назад
Dang
@tylerfaubert1201
@tylerfaubert1201 2 года назад
I recently got back into the sport this year (2022) because since my grandpas driver, Jimmie Johnson, retired I wanted someone to cheer for. My driver, Junior, retired several years before and since the races were soo long I couldn’t watch it that long. When they came out with stages I was at first upset but now I really like it as it breaks it up like most other sports with quarters or periods. I think the sport is on and uprise it just needs to capture the attention of the younger audience like how F1 is starting to do that.
@edstevens6839
@edstevens6839 2 года назад
I moved away from Nascar after they implemented the "Stage system." It is my belief that allows the "participation trophy" mentality to florish.
@BlackFlagsMatter
@BlackFlagsMatter 5 лет назад
As a NASCAR RU-vidr watching this video you hit it right on the head. The NASCAR RU-vid community is gonna love this video! Thank you for making this!
@JustAnotherRailfan2026
@JustAnotherRailfan2026 5 лет назад
Black Flags Matter I had a feeling you guys would show up
@alexandercarabitses8081
@alexandercarabitses8081 5 лет назад
Can't wait to hear about this tonight on the podcast
@fishproductions22
@fishproductions22 5 лет назад
Dang the whole NASCAR community is showing up here
@sunshinecoolwater3960
@sunshinecoolwater3960 5 лет назад
In before Eric Estepp 🏁
@austincarper1016
@austincarper1016 5 лет назад
Get him on the podcast!
@nethunters
@nethunters 5 лет назад
Smoking, Rock music...Nascar, they all belong to a culture that had it's era. Different times now.
@PrydeWater901
@PrydeWater901 5 лет назад
Jetze de Jager Being replaced by vaping, dub step, and e-gaming. 🤔
@bardthenascarfanaticdragon
@bardthenascarfanaticdragon Год назад
I'm a fan of the late 2000's early 2010's days. That's when I truely took the dive into NASCAR.
@kenweeks9028
@kenweeks9028 2 года назад
I quit NASCAR when they brought in the Car of Tomorrow. IROC already exists, and nobody was clamoring for NASCAR to be more like it. The image became too family-friendly, too well-cultivated. It failed to resonate as authentic. They also "expanded" to new tracks in new parts of the country, but only succeeded in ostracizing old/current fans and not really creating new fans in these new areas to replace them.
@Ryguy-lg2xz
@Ryguy-lg2xz 5 лет назад
I’d say NASCAR’s troubles started with the death of Dale Earnhardt
@jeffreymcfadden9403
@jeffreymcfadden9403 5 лет назад
and all the commercialization! btw, dale#3 is my 7th cousin.
@thomasc.5219
@thomasc.5219 5 лет назад
No safety is what killed it. Sad buttrue. People are animals deep down and they want the chance to see someone hurt. It's why UFC and football are huge. The danger. Baseball has no danger and it's why its dying as well. Football starts to add more and more safety and the ratings have declined a bit. People are just twisted and wanna see a trainwreck.
@danielschell7177
@danielschell7177 5 лет назад
that's an excuse
@albertwesker5674
@albertwesker5674 5 лет назад
Thomas C. You are right. Athens Greece, public executions in medieval Europe, Indigenous Central/South American Indians throwing people in volcanoes, etc. Violence has always been an exciting pass time for our ancestors and it’s still is today for a lot of people.
@danielschell7177
@danielschell7177 5 лет назад
@@albertwesker5674 why do you think people watch pro wrestling , it's violent
@CharlesB9496
@CharlesB9496 5 лет назад
As a NASCAR fan, here are some reasons nascar isn’t as popular: 1) the format changes-In 2003, NASCAR changed the championship format. 2) Popular drivers retiring-Drivers like Dale Earnhardt Jr, Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon, And Matt Kenseth...all fan favorites..had massive fanbases. With those fans left without a driver to root for, they either left nascar entirely, Or rooting on their protégée VIA Chase Elliott, Alex Bowman, Erik Jones. 3) Introduction of stage racing-Divided races into 3 segments. I would say that nascar is on a slight upswing in 2019. Good races and popular drivers like Chase Elliott being successful have brought in slight but noticeable TV rating changes for the better. Admittedly yeah the races get boring, but I’m a fan for life. And i ain’t leavening now!
@levitikan
@levitikan 5 лет назад
I really don't get the 3 stage hate. i think it works really well, it quite often stops the lead couple of cars from just soaring off the whole race and lapping the entire field like what happens a lot in F1
@TheJingles007
@TheJingles007 5 лет назад
@@levitikan For me it just doesn't feel like a NASCAR race anymore. It feels little kid-ish. Shorter races are fun at hometown tracks, but NASCAR isn't supposed to have them
@glennweaver3014
@glennweaver3014 5 лет назад
I would add to the list of popular drivers retiring: Carl Edwards.
@fridaynightnicktoons6885
@fridaynightnicktoons6885 5 лет назад
It sucks when what you lovedeclines. It's like that with star wars. I hate the current era but i dont wanna leave,I just want good leadership to fix silly things like the tarkin novel saying sidious isnt evil....sidious...the master of Vader isnt evil???
@alex-marquette
@alex-marquette 5 лет назад
It doesn't help the matter when the same 2, 3 drivers win every week or are in the discussion on winning every week. That doesn't help audiences connect to anyone.
@KrissFoley
@KrissFoley 2 года назад
I Love that you include Dale Earnhardt. I used to be a devoted Fan watched all the races but That Day at Daytona was the last race i ever watched there is not another Driver that embodies Nascar like Dale Earnhardt.
@pheonixprime3966
@pheonixprime3966 2 года назад
As a current NASCAR fan the biggest issues are regarding the cars as of 2022 the fact the cars have single center lugnuts, rear diffusers more restricted engines low profile tires that once they blow a tire they get stuck number placement the social justice stuff from 2020 constantly changing schedules removal of the clash from daytona to the LA coliseum a dirt bristol race etc
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