Joe Rogan and Tim Dillon talk Warren Buffet, Jeff Bezos, and where this is all heading. From episode 283: • #283 - Joe Rogan | The... Bonus episodes every week: / thetimdillonshow
Very concerning... just helped cleaning out a very large building & found out afterwards likely going to be transitioned into massive housing. Odd considering it's hospital/school like size & location. Interesting & concerning
Not really. People who say that have no idea how "affordable housing" actually works. First of all it's not really affordable - yes it saves you a little here and there but there are so many rules, usually involving the number of kids, etc. By the end of the day it legitimizes poverty, perpetuates kid-rearing for the sake of income and is all around bad for the country. We need to be about helping people up rather than making it easier to stay down.
@@tonyh1345 Interesting you asked bc someone else asked me the same thing yesterday. Looking back, it was a very low income area easily accessible to the interstate& in close proximity to a large city, it's possible. I hate to think it would be used in that manner, but the way people keep giving up their liberties, the possibility should be considered to try& avoid that scenario proactively& peacefully. GOD is able!
We are right in the middle of a Venn diagram of the early stages of Idiocracy, Fahrenheit 451, 1984, Brave New World, Elysium, Animal Farm and Clockwork Orange with some Terminator potential sprinkled in there bcuz why not.
So funny, lately with the super rich just going to space to check it out, reminds me of Elysium in the near future. Very underrated movie in my opinion.
Is this good advice in this climate?Private equity vultures get cheap leveraged debt they use to monopolize industries and then pass that debt onto consumers by price gouging without innovating or improving anything..often ruining. Profitable for a few. Negative sum game for everyone..including the lazy rich eventually. Ignore the corrupt system...just make it all worse by taking advantage of it. Enjoy your first class seat on the Titanic while it lasts
@@Sobanhassan1761 It has already started. The previous president was a talk show host / tv personality / crash persona, and the current one is a senile bland party careerist with a son doing "bussiness access to my dad the Prez" deals.
"As long as their team wins, they don't really care what rights they lose and what things end up looking like." Every once in a while, Tim drops a philosophical bomb. This quote perfectly sums up the past two years.
@@timhendrix414 the downward spiral is definitely intensifying... the sad thing is both sides are convinced they're not the problem... accountability is gone and politics are now a religion
This is especially true for modern dems. I've seen a lot of conservatives compromise with their beliefs in recent years. They arent against gay marriage and censorship anymore like they were in the 80s and 90s. Meanwhile democrats have become more partisan than ever
I'm rly proud of Joe and Tim for talking about blackrock, etc. That's impressive that they can talk about government or corporate power in a non partisan way
Yeah but the Fixation and Obsession with China and Russia is also unhealthy. Don't get me wrong the Communist Party is no Good Entity, they control their Population and Censorship is big there, but they brought up 700 Million people into the middle class from poverty, so they don't need to 'hold down' their population, they brought them up. While the US and their Vassals is actively destroying the middle class like both of them said. Same thing is valid for Russia, in the most important societal policies, they helped their population, the West is actively destroying their own Populus, thats the main problem why the West is loosing big time.
Please Sir? Joe Rogan...I HAVE TO SAY.. {MANY THANKS TO YOU SIR!!} YOU BRING SO MUCH AWARENESS!! Please Shout A Little Louder? To The American People!!... Please?.Instead The Europeans Are Listening To You Sir!!
Russia and China aren't the top of the Communist pyramid. It's the international 'small hats'! (You have to use code words,.. or more often than not your comment will be removed). That's real power!
@@matthiasblum6555 were sold out in the 1970’s manufacturing left and pushed the rest out through the 1990’s .. Ask yourself why the Uk did the same thing at same time
Joe points out that in China, “you cannot have a corporation where the government is not involved”. And in the US, you cannot have a government where there corporations aren’t involved. Maybe that’s what the difference between Communism and Capitalism has finally come down to.
I'd prefer the former at least you know what you're getting. There are no laws of transparency in place to know who owns who in our federal government and even local offices.
No, you're actually wrong on so many levels that it's astounding. I invite you to look into the tens of millions of deaths that were a direct result of 20th century communism in the Soviet Union, Maoist China and Pol Pot's Cambodia. Capitalism does have its flaws, but it is rooted in the prioritization of the sovereign individual and its associated responsibilities and rights.
@@philsidock What I hear I’m your reply is a boring and stale viewpoint of global politics and economics. It’s an easy way out when we attempt to display humility, while simultaneously judging the Other as worse. Between the 20th century models of communism and capitalism, no one gets a trophy. Besides that, your reply has little to do with the thematic thread of the previous comments. What of the regulatory capture within the U.S.? Does this not tread all over citizens’ individual freedoms and rights, while hiding behind the legislation that essentially legalizes bribery? Doesn’t sound too dissimilar the current Chinese model.
I'm so glad people like these two exist and use their platform the way they do. May God protect this country, because most people just won't see what's coming until its too late.
Same people who think these two are speaking knowledge are same people taking horse dewormer, drinking their own urine and praising a pathological orange con man.
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a system with more than 2 parties is just a two party system with more distractions there will always be 2 dominant philosophies manipulating and controlling the rest
Renting a home? I'm doing that right now through property taxes. I get we gotta pay taxes somewhere like sales taxes, that's fine, but when your told you have to pay the government for the land you own it doesn't feel much like ownership.
its the price of living in the city who runs us electricty and water, also usually trash pick up, schools, hospitals?, police?, fire engines? have you not played simcity?
In a society where nobody owns anything when the people grow discontent they will simply destroy it because why would we have any investment in it. Homeowners don't riot. People care less about destroying and vandalizing corporate property.
Be easier to start a revolution and have a 24/7 livestream of executions , while we draft up an improved constitution and laws and establish a government that focuses less on federal power but more on state governments and freedoms of its citizens and small enterprises. States having more power makes them far easier to deal with that states problems much faster and more effective then the federal govt. And by god wipe the entire two party system clean and bring in some better options on who we can vote for and make a 4th branch of govt included in the checks in balances that focus on anti lobbying precautions and can sentence to death any politician caught doing favors for corporations and have the government seize a corporation caught trying to lobby and have its assets liquidated and company dissolved
Tim Dillon is one of the realest truth spitting dudes out there right now. Its crazy how the dystopian stories and movies, even stuff written 50+ years ago foresaw a lot of this.
But what they never foresaw is that it would be *all* of those dystopias rolled into one, literally like the people responsible for today's crap took it as a mixed playbook.
Yep 1984 is very creepy how spot on it is! How'd he see this coming like that? Brave new world is another good one....I'd rather live on that though lol.
“The Chinese government and their businesses are connected.” Same thing in America. Our government’s obviously in cahoots with our largest corporations. Everything’s geared towards boosting corporate/governmental power while both co opt to destroy small business. America runs on corporate socialism. If this was truly a capitalistic society the government would’ve never bailed out the banks during the recession and companies like Tesla would’ve gone out of business a long time ago without receiving corporate welfare from our government. It’s all BS.
I hate when people dont see this but say that in USA its not like in China. Just because company isn't directly owned by government doesnt mean that politicians can't run things. They can do it by being friends with the CEO or threatening them... Then there are those cults that help rich people meet...
It's not the same thing. It is parallel to what goes on in China, but it has significant differences. The US government isn't disappearing prominent CEOs when they don't bend to their will like in China... The govt in the US has much less power over businesses in the US. That said, powerful people in the govt and big business are somewhat intertwined in the US... in ways that are often not fair and possibly dangerous.
@@matthewp5472 umm what ? All I heard was China is not the same as the US yet the US is just like China only different cause it’s the US politicians. I think I know what your trying to say But since you did a really shitty job of saying it I must now make fun of you.
individuals should be able to own anything that is for individual use. but no one should have the right to own the industrial means of production, like factories, railroads, warehouses, heavy machinery etc. This type of stuff should be owned collectively a workers' government.
Agreed. But unlike some of the comments here are suggesting, I think the empire that will fall is not the American empire, but rather the "empire" of the radical left and the corrupt world elite. Conservative Americans are hardworking and ethical people - more so than most cultures in the world.
Yes anyone whos has visited Washington DC will immediately feel like they are in Ancient Rome. With a bit of Ancient Greece, Modern American suburbia and Old England thrown in. The city itself is homage to past Empires.
When you're friends you can do that. And imagine Rogan has more respect for Tim, he has a lot of yes men around him and if someone's being straight up, no issue roasting ya and the like idk just feels more normal. Been friends with a musician I've been a fan of for a while and whenever I see him I'll sneak in some roasts. If I respect you I wanna be more myself with you and you better believe you're getting roasted
Its like the black mirror episode where you have to watch ads all day long and you have to pay to stop them popping up.... They follow your eye movements and alarms go off if you stop watching.
Tim Dillon is my new favorite "here's what's really going the fuck on" guy. Funny, intelligent. Serves up his insights economically with major funny all the time. Now it's time to have Tim and a someone with solutions or tactics in the same room. The time for deep insights and outrage is over, time for a plan and doing it.
This is one of the reasons why people love Joe Rogan. because he is so unbiased. after being fed up with mainstream media that's so biased and corrupted, this is a great relief.
Joe Rogan is all over the place. He's promoted Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul. He has no ideological north, and people should think harder about actual policies and solutions than following someone who makes kinda sense.
The US is heading towards a society that resembles an expanded version of the coal mining enterprises in the 30's where workers were more or less owned by the company.
This is all by design. "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear." Marcus Tullius Cicero
40 years ago I was in a class studying the book of Revelation. At the end of the class 6 months later, a classmate raised his hand and asked, where in the Bible is the American Empire mentioned? Silence. We are never mentioned. Not worth mentioning an empire that is just a blip on the radar. We are so short-lived and assimilated into a stronger nation.
This concept of controlled wage based on tenement housing and fuel cost was addressed in George Orwell's book 'Coming up for air.' They have been doing this industrialized organization since the inception of mass-production and industrialized industries. May have been in 'Road to Weigan Pier' as well. Great reads!
People were brainwashed to believe that The American Dream means turning off your brain n heart & getting a steady job working for the man, who will never hand out Life Changing Money to worker bees… Uncle Sam n the corporations he’s in bed with see humans as nothing more than the grease in the gears of the capitalism machine… better to be bold & create your own machine, systems, paradigms 😎
With the dreams and goals I have for the kind of life I want to live, I often feel like I was born in the wrong time period. It’s depressing, but then I have to tell myself I was born exactly when I was supposed to because I have to lead the ones I love in the right direction. God be with us all
This is exactly what happened in Aspen from 1985 to 1995. Locals could not afford to own, so they either rented or they bought a home down valley and commuted. The next generation will be paying $3,000 a month for a 1-2 bedroom apartment on average which could easily pay for a $600k mortgage. Yes...capitalism in the USA is pure greed now.
About 15 years ago my uncle died & left us his beach house in Amagansett. We were living in PA. I hadn’t been out east in a good while. The traffic was intense because none of the workers can afford to live out there. Everyone’s commuting from Manorville. It had changed so much. Sad
These words echo in my head, and make me glad I moved to the middle of know where in AZ. My town has a population of 30, and I love every moment there. The suns shines so bright, I never have to pay an electric bill, and I grow all my own food. Civilization ain’t civil. And land is affordable.
I think it’s because he so often goes to extremes. I listen to him for some perspective but I don’t think he’s well researched or fact based. Strong opinions and smart observations but not evidence based imo
@@loyal7597 Dude he's a comedian and is just as likely to be making fun of the things he says as he is being serious about them. Tim is all over the place and I love him for it.
Tim’s “the wife will enjoy the money while the man destroys himself” rant appeared to hit just a wee bit too close to home for our fearless hero Papa Joe..
I can’t imagine working 80 hours a week, making a shit ton of money while your wife that you barely ever see just spends it lavishly and is probably getting railed by her personal trainer. Like why get married at that point?
Man I've been reading about the collapse of Roman Empire lately, and it seems not only that the US moral deterioration is inevitably going in that direction, but also the amount of death the collapse brought. The void in power, will make hyenas fight for the last remnants of flesh. Im really afraid of whats to come.
You already don't "own" your house. If you have property taxes, heat and hydro bills constantly you don't truly own anything. And the moment you stop they can legally take everything from you.
Property taxes are intended to fund the public welfare of your local community. If you purchase a product (fuel/water/public utilities), you should have to pay (a fair price) for that product. If you don't believe those are both necessary and good, you shouldn't own property in the United States. Those things aren't the problem. Financial groups pushing real people out of property ownership and convincing them that's a good thing is the problem.
Well, I sure hope my rental properties allow me to "own" the surplus cashflow. And when I borrow against the equity on a bank loan I hope I "own" the capital and can use as I see fit. I also hope I "own" the proceeds in any capital gains I make when I sell a primary. If I stop making payments my creditors *should* take it from me.
I can tell people in heaven that I lived in one of the greatest countries in history. We had Van Halen, giant chewy Sweetarts, Ken Griffey Jr. Good times.
From what I heard, this culture of owning a house was created by the big companies owners. They offered for their employees big "discount" to buy a house (as long as they kept working in the company). So they could keep workers at a low wages and the workers ended up stuck at the job.
there's some theories around how "the american dream" of owning a house was mainly driven by large banks to create liquidity and fixed income returns for wall street, meanwhile trapping the average american worker... not sure how true this is, but interesting to think about
@@deshtruction33 banks make money from lending money, so the banks had an issue there wasn’t enough people borrowing large amounts of money. Home ownership became glamorized and it’s the perfect golden handcuffs 30 yrs of being tied to your corporate job to pay off a home is great for corporations and banks. You’re forced into indentured servitude and the banks get their cut as well. As someone else stated the student loan crisis is an even better scheme to take advantage of the youth, promise of a better life which for many doesn’t pan out and you’re now tied to a high interest loan that you cannot absolve with bankruptcy, pay or die with it no in between. It’s fascinating really how the middle class has become so strained and squeezed in every aspect especially during this pandemic. Food, vehicles, housing, etc. have all shot up well beyond what the avg individual can afford and I think we may see a tipping point soon in what people are willing to put up with in this rat race, idk where that leaves us but the future will tell.
"My name is Lut, my planet is Pluto, my business is Architecture. When we built this multi-family complex, we made a big mistake, we lost money. We gave them small gardens and windows, we installed water, lighting and heating systems - this was a wrong concept. A man doesn't need a home, all he needs is a shelter. If we can sell him on the idea of a shelter, we can make millions. The worker will come here only to sleep. He won't need electricity or water. He won't have to cook. We'll condition him to eat at the factory." Alejandro Jodorowsky's The Holy Mountain (1973)
I work for Warren Buffet (not directly for one of his large companies he owns) but we had to watch a mini doc of sorts all about him. He lives in the same small home he built in the 60's or whenever it was, drives a 2010 Ford, I always thought it was weird so when Tim said that stuff I lost it. Ha ha
What about security concerns (for Buffet). I suppose he has a security team. I'm just saying, someone that rich living in "middle class" America might get robbed/threatened.
Ironically, the push for home ownership was at least partially due to an attempt to control labor. Basically, people with mortgages can't go on strike as easily and they have a vested interest in not smashing the capitalist state. The big "problem" with the strategy is that it results in ordinary people building wealth that can be passed on to the next generation. Now, if it's 1960 and the country's still riding high from the postwar boom, that doesn't cut into corporate profit; corporate profits are growing as everyone's wealth grows. But in 2020? It's all about getting a bigger share of the pie, not trying to get a bigger pie. I think the idea is that student debt is going to fill the role of the mortgage in labor discipline. It's a superior model in every way. The shackles go on before you even start your career, they don't come off even if you go bankrupt and you can't pass your degree on to your kids (so they have to go into the same debt you did).
Its sad, I’m so glad my husband and I didn’t go to school. I have friends who went to medical and pharmacy school and have hundreds of thousands in debt and depsite having high incomes they couldn’t buy a house or have any financial mobility.
Don’t forget that when they make everyone a renter they will put together legislation or bond measures to over tax property owners so that even if you owned a house you’ll be forced to sell. They’ll tell renters that home owners are the 1% and people will gladly vote to take their property
Where I live the property tax is cheaper for the house you live in, the Homestead Exception. You can only have that on one house and you have to live in it. If you have a rental house the taxes on that rental is crazy, I don't even want to know the taxes on apartments. I think a lot of local governments would love to have more renters simply because of the taxes they would get.
Here in California, there is already such a movement brewing. They are looking to create a “healthcare for all”….including illegal immigrants. And pulling a tax from already banked assets and properties to provide such a service. In other words, this scheme involves being taxed again on money that has already been taxed. I hate the virtue signaling, wokety woke, progressive arm of this state. It’s absolutely nauseating.
The Eagle represents a symbolism for an Empire; The Turkey was an original idea from some of thr framers to represent America but the eagle was chosen for obvious reasons.
Empire is the problem, the descent into authoritarianism from a successful Republic seems so natural it's odd American founders didn't see it. And The eagle was the Roman standard left after the Marian reforms, and who came after Marius but Caesar...we will transform, things are more like the Crisis of the 3rd century than the actual fall of Rome.
Joe needs to start doing the double camera view at all times on his podcast too!! Cause Jamie doesn't always get really hilarious reactions in their entirety. Having all cams on-screen allows that! It's less work for Jamie too.
I used to laugh at all these people in the comments bemoaning how bad things are & wishing it was the 70’s again but I’m beginning to feel they just might be right. I’m the oldest of five, grew up pretty spoiled in a large house with lots of land outside & my parents were only in their 30’s when they built that house in NJ. Their mortgage was what I paid for my first apt. It’s all ass backwards now 🥲
@jake the dog in order for it to be "redone" it first has to completely collapse. And honestly, I'm looking forward to it. It will be painful, but it will be necessary.
Better than listening to a faltering prophet pissing his pants in one place. I can discern my own conclusions after the thoughts of both but at least won't have to suffer the second hand embarrassment of one and can feel ok in my mocking of the other.
"If you get a giant majority of the population that are just renters that don't ever own property, that never own their own real home; and then you make sure that you control their wage because you have massive corporations -- whether its Target or Amazon or whatever -- and they limit the amount of possible growth you have within a company...." -- Joe Rogan.
that'swat im going through that problem right now this is the second house that I've been told to get out of after my lease was up to houses in 4 years it's sad and depressing when you're paying your bills and paying everything in someone just tells you to get out on the fly...😟🙁😦😧😩😫😵😵😵
Our country used to have congressional hearings on whether a company could move to another country. It would be voted on for approval if it were a thtreat to national security. Economically or militarily. NAFTA changed all that.
Capitalism in the 50s worked because people actually cared about people. You give your life youre supposrd to be taken care of and get retirement....period
Not even close take a look at what overstocks former CEO is saying about our supposed free markets. Corruption starts in the market and trickles through our politicians.
@In your Momsass Exactly, the main stream media will try to have you believe otherwise because he's talking about stuff that directly affects their pocket books and the current dictatorship. Yes we have a dictatorship, bit of a circus act one under the guise of "freedom and demoncracy" when will people learn that the president has next to no actual power, aside from pardoning people. If they veto a bill that they werent supposed, dont play nice? They end up with a bunch of scandals and investigations/ or in the most extreme case, death. They havent pulled the latter in a while because especially nowadays, it would be pretty hard to pull off without starting an absolute uprising. People are slowly becoming not as stupid as we have been for decades. Mostly because we have all the information available to us, dont be surprised as they slowly find reasons to scale that back, and start just out right controlling everything we can find on the internet more than they do now. They have to leave some information out there so that we dont wise up to whats going on. Do yourself a favor like I did years ago, stop watching main stream media outlets. Its all propeganda based on who owns the outlet and what political narrative they've been instructed to push. People dropping dead from heart attacks because of the vaccine? You wont hear about it on any mainstream media, not the truth of it, but anyone that follows or is involved in the fitness/bodybuilding industry will be aware of the alarming number of heart attacks deaths of bodybuilders just in the last year. All vaccinated. Sure bodybuilders have been dropping dead from extended PED use for as long as the sport has existed, but whats happened in the last year has been unprecidented. Im worried for my father in law, he has a history of a not-so-good heart, so far he's fine. We wouldnt be able to discern if there was a particular vaccine contributing to the deaths because the deaths are just flat out being denied as any connection to the vaccine all-to-gether. No investigation or study in to the data, just out right deceptive denial and voluntary ignorance. /end rant.
