The DEFINITIVE Dragon Ball Iceberg Explained 

Fun fact: Laserdiscs aren't actually like the vinyl of discs, that would go to the CED, a format that was literally Vinyl but it stored video. Laserdiscs are just really big DVDs, due to the less perfect methods of creation they are technically on par with early DVDs from the 1990s (Though sometimes better or worse in some cases), and some discs had 1080i HD Video as early as 1993 through using the same tech as Blu-rays

Kai's weird censorship was only in the Nicktoons and Toonzai versions, and I stand by the Adult Swim version is still the best way to watch DBZ dubbed

17:20 it's a common misconception that the studio had to "not reveal" super saiyan before the manga, in actuality Super Saiyan's hair wasn't blond at the time the concept art was sent to the studio, that was a decision made essentially as Toriyama was drawing the chapter, Japan doesn't care about spoilers, they relish it, to the point that Lord Slug's Japanese name is literally just "Super Saiyan Son Goku"

45:39 I would've thought the age change was referring to the fact that Gohan's age title in games have changed. The version of Gohan depicted in the Cell saga used to be known as Teen Gohan, but recently it has been changed to Youth Gohan like in Dragon Ball Legends

I think the Gohan age bit is referring to his initial age being changed. He was originally 3 apparently, but was aged up to be at least slightly more believable.

44:50 if I could offer what I think the iceberg is referencing by "End of GT" it's that the end of Dragon Ball GT was written and animated at the same time as the first episode. The first and final episodes were done before the rest of the series was planned at all.

The One in the slug movie isn't "a movie own interpretation of the Duper Saiyan" but is actually "the beta design of the Super Saiyan". It changed later in the manga because he didn't wanted to color the hairs, but that was the actual description of what the Super Saiyan supposed to look like

10:08 for most of the world is Tablos is just a fan character, but on the spanish speaking side of the internet he is kind of a meme and his author a lolcow, it is a whole rabbit hole

54:00 This was made as a promo for the Dragon Ball, Budokai AF mod for the Budokai 3 game on PS2. This mod was the first mod for a dragon ball game and basically the team had to make all the tools from scratch. It later got a remake and the team (Lead by PGVegeta, another popular name on the AF fandom just like Tablos) are still working on GS, making updates on a future fan-movie after the fan-series was cancelled because of covid

The Jiren Buddha theory was something speculated on during the airing of the TOP before we got his backstory near the end of the arc. I remember a few powerscaling channels at the time, mainly Seth (RIP lmao) and Chuck I think, floating around the idea while trying to guage and predict his full power.

To expand on the "Journey to the west" bit, it runs far deeper than just having a character named Son Goku who has a monkey tail. Dragon Ball, at its inception, was conceived mostly as a 10 chapter parody of Journey to the West with elements thrown in from Toriyama’s numerous influences (from Jackie Chan Kung Fu films to old WW2 car designs etc). As such Journey To The West’s DNA runs far deeper than just Goku’s. In fact most of the cast are parodies from the original. Goku is the obvious one. Oolong is the pig, Yamcha the wolf etc. Bulma is the monk character flipped on its head. He’s a man of faith, she’s a woman of science. He seeks the scrolls for selfless, spiritual reasons, she seeks the Dragon Ball for selfish and silly reasons. He’s wise and calm, she’s petty and petulant etc. Even the events they go through are twists on the adventures the party of JttW get themselves into. For instance, in the original story, the Monk and Sun Wukong stumble upon this pig monster who steals young women from a local village. Wukong being a shape-shifter turns into a young woman and tries to seduce the monster as a ploy but gets disgusted by him and turns back. They have a giant battle and then they realize he was one of the people they were supposed to recruit for their journey and he was supposed to join them so he joins the team. In Dragon Ball, Goku isn’t a shapeshifter so they just dress him up like a girl but, being silly Goku he drops the disguise by taking a leak standing up in front of Oolong. Oolong himself is no fighter and so the big fight is a giant joke. And Bulma tricks him into joining the party at the end by making swallow a pill that gives him a stomach ache every time she whistles. And of course, the girls Oolong kidnapped have completely taken over his place and live in lavish luxury, to the point that they don’t even want to go back to their village , because he’s actually a pushover and not much of a bad guy. This continues all throughout the first arc and Japanese readers at the time were expected to recognize the tongue and cheek retelling of the story (which is like Little Riding Hood or something for them) so it’s a whole reading of OG Dragon Ball that gets somewhat lost for foreign audiences.

10:09 a sus ordenes general Tablos ._.7

13:42 A great addition you could’ve added to the iceberg about the Yamoshi the fist Super Saiyan God was that Shallot and Giblet the twins from Dragon Ball Legends were actually his direct descendants who also achieved the form

Hay esencia en la miniatura

34:45 Of course Gotenks can beat Kid Buu. He's the weakest form of Majin Buu.

"Super Saiyan Power" is most likely a reference to one of the DBZ action figure commercials, where the narrator awkwardly delivers "will Goku's super saiyan power be enough this time?". It was really cringey and I remember it got meme'd a lot back in the mid to late 2010's.

Fun fact about DBO, back when it was launched, if you wanted to play the SK version(the only one with enlish menus) you had to have a SK social security number. After months of searching I actually found a service that rented out SK social security numbers and the payment went directly to the owner(supposedly).

Blue mister Popo ISN'T from average Dragon Ball Kai. It is from a specific channel, along with many other censorships that are misspreaded as being from the original show.

Man, I completely forgot about the GT movie. Still brings tears to my eyes when I watch it

31:35 The special that you refer to as the “Movie Overview Special” is officially called “Dragon Ball Z Summer Vacation Special” and it isn’t lost media, it just has never received a full U.S. release. I have the special on my PC in its entirety

5:40 oh my god Broly saying that in the DBZA movie dub was a REFERENCE?? TO THIS??

Well super gotenks and mystic Gohan would’ve been capable of dealing with kid buu as he’s less powerful than super buu, they didn’t do it because “reasons” but still they are theoretically capable of doing so

LMAO Geekdom went downhill after that

Man mispronounces dragon ball characters: the movie

All current DBZ physical releases include the Johnson/Faulconer score. It’s labeled as “English 2.0” in the audio settings. Crunchyroll and Funimation only have the Kikuchi score, however.

Anybody else get really pissed off when he mispronounces the names

the gohan age thing probably refers to how gohan was 3 in original manga releases but it was changed to 4 later. first couple chapters, gohan meeting the rest of the z fighters.

10:10 7 words E S S E N C E

FYI: The thing about Vegeta saying “9000” rather than “8000” because “9000” syncs better with the animation makes no sense and has been debunked. 8 and 9 are both 1 syllable and home releases of Kai have Vegeta say “8000.” It’s more likely that they changed it to 9000 because it sounds cooler. 4:11

7 palabras esencia

8:36 Fun Fact: Super guy in the Galaxy is the name of a Dokkan Battle Event Based on the Movies

Arale is pronounced as ARA-LAY

I feel that people don't know about the tokusatsu influence in Dragon ball z. Like chi chi's outfit resembling Ultraseven from the Ultraman franchise or the Ginyu force being a parody of Super Sentai/Power Rangers or that one random dude from the Tournament of Power being a Kamen rider reference. (Let's not forget, the great saiyaman also, being a kamen rider reference.)

Something that’s interesting about the Bang Zoom dub is that Sean Chiplock voiced Future Trunks and he’s pretty much the only “big name” VA on the project although there is no footage of the Black Arc’s Bang Zoom dub.

10:10 escencia momento

The 19/20 retcon is likely referring to the original run of the manga, where Trunks warns of "Androids 19 and 20", but after the droids from his future were retconned to 17 and 18, subsequent printings have him leave out their numbers.

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46:09 I think this entry refers to the fact that "Teen Gohan" is actually a Kid, and "Adult Gohan", referred to be in the Buu Saga by games and some other pieces of medias of Dragon Ball, is actually not even a Adult as hes still 16.

My headcanon about the whole “back tingle” explanation is that it’s simply a little trick that Universe 6 developed since they’d probably work under slightly different rules. We’ve already seen that Universe 7 saiyans have plenty of ways to achieve transformation. The main activation is to be a pure heart corrupted by emotional anguish, but people like Vegeta contradict that. We know that characters like Goten and Trunks are able to activate their forms without having to break through some emotional trigger. Emotional trauma is the easiest way to activate it but there are alternate ways. I personally think it could also be an inheritance situation. Goten and Trunks were born into families with fathers that have already unlocked the form so the potential could already be in them. So all they might need for an awakening is to look for a little tingle in their back and let it go. But for a saiyan like Goku who was born from average saiyan parents, it took the pain of seeing a loved one die to awaken his abilities. Maybe Caulifla could have inherited that from her parents. Who knows, it’s just my desire to make it so it’s not an overhaul of the transformation. I’m sure it’s not since we have at least one Universe 6 saiyan that awakened the traditional way.

I saw El Hermanos and I came

Some notable plagiarism by Yamamoto: • "Challengers" from DBZ Budokai is a rip off of " Hunting High & Low" by Stratovarius • "Move Forward Fearlessly" from DBZ Budokai is a rip off of "Glory of the World" by Stratovarius • "GIRI-GIRI -Sekai Kyokugen" is a rip off of "Immigrant Song" by Led Zeppelin • "Senritsu no Toki" from DBZ Budokai is a rip off of Black Sabbath's " Iron Man " & "Black Sabbath"

Goku x Anne Frank is still a less weird crossover than Lucina x Spider-Man. At least the former doesnt have hundreds of lewd images and was made as an innocent fanfiction.

I find it hard to believe, given the accessibility to dragon ball, the sheer amount of years it's been out, and it's cultural relevance in both the East and West, that Abridged was most fans first exposure to dragon ball.

Gohans age change means that in the orginal chapter gohan has introduced hes 3, in the next one he is changed to 4

El Hermano vs El Grande Padre lesgooooo

Yamamoto plagiarized nearly every song in the original budokai which is crazy considering those were some stellar themes

Bro how did you pronounce like every name wrong lol

The end of GT is [most likely] referring to a theory in which how goku beats omega shenron and goes with good shenron is because giving up his mortal body and desires in order to ascend which is something common in Buddhist beliefs. This may explain why hes allowed to go with shenron,in that scene the sky is doesnt become darker and despite leaving his gi behind he still wears while riding shenron as that is a part of his soul as a person. Idk it's a cool theory🤷‍♂️

*Tablos*

Geekdom was wrong a lot when I use to follow him, and was cringe as hell. So I had to unfollow

That’s a nice intro nod to golden harvest studios

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Dropped my phone and a pop up said “feedback shared with creator” and the thumbs down was selected after I caught it and looked at the screen. Fixed the thumbs down, but I have no clue what feedback it sent so disregard it if there’s any negative feedback.

Everything you said in the back tingle section was straight facts. I find it MIND-BOGGLING that the fandom gets mad over Cauflia turning Super Saiyan, but almost no one had any complaints when Goten and Trunks, two children who couldn't even fly yet, were able to turn Super Saiyan at the age of 8.

At 5:15 there is a picture of gohan giving goku the power pole. What episode is that? I watched blood rubies and the pilaf saga and I’ve never seen that frame

I was so confused why people were angry at the back tingle, I still am

Coughflia hahaha

Fun fact about the over 9000 entry is that it’s actually a mistranslation. It was originally supposed to say over 8000

Why was the GT Ending so low down the list? Doesn't like the entire fandom agree it's the best ending of the franchise? It's not obscure

There is no way this guy has watched dragon ball. How can you fuck up the name turles

RIP Akira Toriyama.

Just to point out. Gotenks absolutely beats Kid Buu, setting aside his personality defects.

The paradox of being dedicated and studious enough to cover an iceberg, but not know how to pronounce multiple names.

DBFB didn't have motion control, but they used motion capture for the animations DBZVRVS was supposed to have motion capture but was canceled (I think)

Does it have el hermano?

I'm convinced you pronounced --Cofflea-- Caulifla wrong to get comments like mine to pop up 😂

Just as a heads up: It's pronounced "ar-ah-lay", not "are-el".

Great vid but pan isn’t exclusive to gt

I'll be honest, I got this for Christmas and I rather enjoyed it. I had a PSX and Dreamcast and wanted power stone, but was hyped to get SW.

Oh based. I love Dragon Ball as a franchise and I'm glad I have a video to watch on it this evening. Keep up the excellent content!

Gero does not want to lose him again... puts nuclear bomb inside body*

"worlds strongest/worlds strongest fighter" being changed to "strongest guy in the world" is so funny

The dragon ball Z the real 4D Works amazing

The last one with vegeta is actually disturbing i saw it and yea it can give some nightmare fuel also when your bit younger but the rest was interesting

Just a point on the Kai censorship it is uncut on the blu ray and is known as the best dub for z because it’s the most accurate to the Japanese

None of the actual FNAF games scared me. But this, this is truly horrifying. I cannot comprehend how scared I was when I saw an animatronic at my door, even the newer models.

Final bout had a tech demo showing and clips in a magazine indeed showing someone playing the game with motion controls

Few things * Gohan's age may refer to how at the start of the Saiyan saga, he's introduced as being three. Then a chapter later it's changed to four and all future publications of the chapter, as well as the anime refers to him by the older age. It's likely the case as Toiryama felt having a three year old punched by Radditz wouldn't look good. * It should also be noted it was Toiryama's former editor who disliked both 19/20 and 17/18, not his then editor. His then editor was the one who forced him to have Cell become perfect asap, not liking his second form. * Finally, Toiryama's first editor (the one who called him about the androids) is also the basis/inspiration for the villain Dr Mashirito in Dr Slump and Piccolo/Demon King Piccolo.

The last topic you talk about is real btw idk if it was final bout but there was a cut game during the PS era that used motion controls and there is even photos of it on the internet. Yuriofwind talked about it on his canceled dragon ball games so many years ago but yeah it’s real

I love the original Dragonball series, watched it in the late 80's as a teenager and it was hilarious.

“When vegeta dropped this hard line” “AT BEEE-KAY HAVE IT YOUR WAY YOU RULE!”

i like the back tingle. cuz its kinda stupid to have everyone have trauma and form the tory drama, its not uncommon for artists to reuse older poses and stuff.

I swear this guy mispronounces stuff on purpose

22:53 “Super Saiyan Power” this isn’t a transformation, if you probe just a little further most agree that at the last moment they decided not to have Goku turn Super Saiyan here so that it would be more impactful when he revealed the form to Pikuhan later in the Other World Tournament - because it was such a short scene and perhaps they didn’t have time to redraw it, they just recoloured his hair black. As for the Father Son Kamehameha, I’m pretty sure it’s just the force of the wind from Gohan’s blast pushing his hair back. The card game thing I can’t explain.

Now I understand the Little Green jokes from DBZA They really called my man Piccolo "Big Green"

Honestly I’ve never liked the first part of the story where goku was a child, it’s probably because it’s the last dragon ball series I’ve watched and GT was the first, I’m crazy ik

Fyi. Much like the shadow dragons spirits got created and housed in the dragon balls, so did Goku's. If you watch the full ending, all the dragon balls are absorbed into him, the last being the four star with dramatic flair, then go into the sky and dispersed like usual. In essence, Goku's soul or spirit lives on in the dragon balls.

Ayo how do you feel about the recent Gamma and Gogeta bans in the card game? Lol

You’ve mispronounced a lot of the characters names man. Did you really watch this show at all? Lol

Gohan's Age actually most likely refers to "Teen" Gohan actually being 11. The moniker of "Teen" was actually a dub change, as there was a limit on how much violence you could show happening to children on a PG rating. While that was mostly fine when he was younger and never the main combatant, the fight against Cell was unavoidable to portray him as an 11 year old without some major censorship. So "Teen" is a purposeful misnomer to trick executives and censors to approve of the end of the Cell Saga.

0:58 ...what?? For which demographic?! Not millennials.

How did krillin learn kai o ken? Never went to train king kai planet. Yamcha tien and piccolo couldn't learn it cus only goku body was fit to handle it

Kefla not Coughlia 😂😂

motion control was demo on final bout before nintendo buys rights to it to create wii , thats what i remember if im wrong correct me plz

Bro how can you attack me like that. Using Modest Mouse’s good news and shin’s wincing… that was personal.

Geekdom has stated that what he said is that dbs may be back in 2019,he didn't have confirmation

sorry but arale is pronounced arr arrrl ay. and the over 9000 has been denunked years ago. it was a mix of translation issues and wanting to make goku look stronger. it was originally over 8000 but the english team thought more is better. stopped watching after this bit

too many cringy NA dubs entries. 5/10

gotenks literaly could defeat kid buu lmao thats just real

I think that the final bout motion controls were from a Event. I can’t remember which one but it shows a guy with the costume, like Goku using this like hand device.