Oopsy woodsy I forgot that the Banana Mania footage was recorded in the in game Render Toy so colors look grainy and fuzzy. My baaaddddddddddddddrddddddd :3
The goals linking to their themes really made them unique and in each theme they were different, colourful, creative and beautiful but at least we got a good game
@@Kelphelp Yes they just slapped on the banana blitz engine and ported stages from the original and that weren't designed for that engine. They barely did any work as every bit of content is a port from something else. The only original work they did is the UI and the lazy story mode cutscenes it works but overall you can't play as seamlessly. Also graphically it looks worse with lower-res textures and undetailed surfaces. it's fun to play but it's definitely an corporate cash grab making basic things like the actual music $6 DLC. Not a lot of effort when into it overall.
Just because things are "slapped" together and put into something else doesn't mean it's lazy in the slightest. And to be opposite, while everything is reiterated from older games it needs to be placed in updated engines for better compatibility with other consoles. Amusement Visions is gone and has been merged with Ryu Ga Gotoku Studios and to have a 20 year old engine literally makes no sense. Most companies don't even have these engines. Pretty much to just say it's been "ported" and "slapped" together is pretty insulting considering how polished everything about each title is. It really sounds like you haven't played this at all.
Also you do realize you are asking for an engine port of a 20 year old game sega probably doesn't have, and calling this new one lazy because it uses the same assets as Banana Blitz HD. Do you do realize you aren't making any sense at all?
@@Kelphelp I'm not saying reuse the exact engine but they just used the engine from banana blitz which doesn't work AS well as it should with these stages. and yes it's lazy. They couldn't even get voices for the extra characters and they literally just took banana blitz and ported stages over. Why are you pretending like Sega is such a passionate developer that treats its games with care? This game is still fun to play on switch but if you have a PC then just emulate the originals for a better experience.
Oh boy, they really botched the ball rolling sound. It basically sounds like random chirps as you move and not affected by the ball speed. Hopefully they improve some stuff in an update.
I really appreciate how much effort was put into this game. It really does feel like they tried to make it great for fans of the series. The physics are definitely tricky, and they make certain levels much harder than they were in the classic games, but it's still a lot of fun. I'm not too sure if speed actually went down, but it's certainly different. From what I've noticed, the speed stays high if you're going straight forward in one direction, but it's drastically lower when rolling diagonally or turning.
Exactly my sentiments as well. They really tried to recreate a 1:1 and did a great job keeping faithful to the original while having its own identity. You bring a good point that turning and going in a different direction is very different and maybe even lower speeds as well. Despite that I really feel this game was a labor of love and it can be felt with each mode and new content. Very pleased with it
I was so excited to play this with the family, after watching this I canceled the trip to GameStop to pick this up and got the GameCube version of Monkey Ball 1 and 2 from a thrift store instead and ripped them and put them in a USB and load them off of Nintendont on the WIi U and having GameCube controllers ready with the GameCube adapter for Smash 4. Sega's rereleases getting more shoddy as we can see with VIrtua Fighter 5: Ultimate Shodown, Sonic Colors Ultimate and now this.
For Sonic Colors the unfortunate initial release bugs were really bad but they have been fixed which is a good thing. I understand wanting to play with thr OG engine though. I just wish the Gamecibe games are much cheaper. It's near impossible in my area
I unfortunately do not agree with this guy. I think this game is great but it could be way better. Monkey target is bad now. The physics are just not as precise as they used to be and the multiplayer for the main game is gone. Sure there are plenty of cool modes and stuff like golden banana mode. Dark, banana mode, reverse mode. Deluxe mode is weird idk why that exists instead of just mashing them into the other standard levels. I mean really the originals are better in almost every way though. The main game jusy plays better. There's no other way to say it. It's a great new way to play monkey ball don't get me wrong I'm very happy that the series is returning to it's glory day. We know what kind of company Sega is ok. They released Sonic colors ultimate and told us that if we do not buy super monkey ball banana blitz hd that monkey ball would be dead forever. And they are charging for golden banana mode and the original soundtrack. Unbelievable! I payed for the og music because I can't imagine playing without it but you see my point. I will tell you that leaderboards are really cool. But Sega has decided to place the timer right below your monkey in the way so sometimes it can be extremely hard for no reason and you can't move it. I'm very mixed here. Like if my friends are all here in front of the tv and we want to play monkey ball I have no choice but to play the old GameCube versions instead or dx on the Xbox. It's just a shame that just like Nintendo, they can get so many things right but get a bunch of stupid things wrong that most would agree is comment sense to have. Hope this makes sense. I just don't get it though I was so angry playing this. I was doing good on most stages but it was much more difficult to literally move in a straight line over a balance beam. This is because of what I said earlier about the controls not being as responsive due to the new engine. Because of this I'm not kidding you...when I tell you that me, a monkey ball veteran died 35ish times on floor bent and 45ish times on polar large it's the truth and it's not because I'm bad at monkey ball I can beat floor bent in 1 try in the originals and polar large in 5 trys or less. I get extremely angry so this game is a bit of a turn off for me and as soon as I'm done if Sega doesn't fix any of the issues here I have no problem just playing the originals until they finally make a new good monkey ball game that is not litered with and b.s.
Damn this is heeellaaaaaa long but true it does take some getting used to with this new version. I will say this the convinience of having this on thr go is incredible but there is a learning curve. There is really no way to port the old defunct SMB2 engine over so they had to go with Unity and that's fair. Different engines have different physics and since this is a physics game will be entirely different. And at the end of the day, every gaming company has a fault. Not one is perfect. Just gotta see the less crappy one that's doable. It's still a great game just...different. if you are wanting 1:1 then you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
I don't really understand why they removed the speedlines and the monkeys tumbling when you go flying, those two things really help the feeling of speed even without changing the physics at all
@@Kelphelp As someone who uses Unity at a hobbyist level, adding some speed line particles at a certain velocity as well as a tumble animation shouldn't be very difficult in this engine. Admittedly I've not used Unity in a AAA environment so maybe it's different That said, I totally appreciate that the physics would never be 1:1 despite some peoples complaints because of the change in engine
Really miss the physics of the old ones. Its sort of like they missed the whole point of a rerelease. Is it not just cheaper to emulate and AI upscale old games? Fans are doing it for FREE so often. I just don't get it anymore.
I definitely wouldn't go as far as that. As we have seen with mods AI upscaling can only do so much and to add more content needs a new engine that can work for all consoles. I'm not a developer mind you but this isn't easy. The scale of AAA and indie development can have very different scales. Not fair to compare them both at all on both sides
8:13 - 8:23 I agree with ya! I love this game a lot, but you're absolutely right as well that it almost has everything. I really wish it has ALL the levels from SMBDX's Story Mode and this time has you doing all 20 levels per world rather than even just 10/20 and SMBDX's Challenge Mode with 40 Casual levels, 70 Normal levels, 100 Expert levels and 20 Master levels, +20 extra levels for Casual, Normal and Expert and 10 extra levels for Master. Then an SMBDX Marathon difficulty for all 210. Then we could have almost all the levels have all their alternative worlds in glorious HD! Example... Arthropod Inside a Whale (SMB2) Arthropod over the Boiling Pot (SMB2) Arthropod in Space (SMBDX) Then Super Monkey Ball Banana Mania would be the true Ultimate Monkey Ball Deluxe masterpiece to experience. Other than that, this game is still fantastic and a great love letter to Super Monkey Ball. Just like Mario Party Superstars is a great love letter to the whole Mario Party series. 🎊
Exactly I think that's what we needed tbh. I'm not surprised one or two tracks are missing but even despite that we got such an amazing title in return!
Idk what's been going on but I thought this game was something only a very few played I remember being n second grade and my friend was talking about a game called super monkey ball n we laughed at him thinking he was just joking around anyways I went to his house after school played super monkey ball n now I'm seeing it make a comeback like I never even heard of the game releasing the first time
Will illumination will ever make a super monkey ball movie and they WHOULD add yanyan and doctor too and maybe dr badboon and maybe Palette from banana rumble too, I not sure if they add jam and jet in the movie or yoko and the other banana blitz boss fights and the monkey ball adventure characters added in the movie and they're eyes will have actuall eyes or cartoon eyes and will aiai will have his blue backpack like in most of the modern monkey ball games and will the monkeys will have actuall feet like they're classic designs has, but I think they wouldn't do it tho because most people arent interested to super monkey ball and they just thought monkey ball is a ball simulator game and people who doesn't really know much about it just say like "oh all monkey ball is about is just a game we're you just play as a monkey in a ball" that's it and people didn't even know about the monkey ball characters story and even if they heard there's a monkey ball 2 game that has the cutscenes people said "all of cutscenes is about the monkeys having they're bananas stolen from a evil baboon and the monkeys have to stop it from stilling they're bananas" thats it and maybe Iillumination is thinking the same thing about it that why there isn't a modern monkey ball toy with yanyan or doctor toy or modern happy meal toy or even a super monkey ball cartoon
not a fan of the removal of lives which lowers the difficulty, but at the same time this is a party game not dark souls so it makes sense and honestly doesnt negatively effect the game whatsoever
Exactly. Difficulty was never really what made uo Monkey Ball but if you want harder difficulty some of the challenge modes REALLY test your skills. So for newcomers and vets it's a fantastic mix.
@@KelphelpWill illumination will ever make a super monkey ball movie, OR EVEN BETTER "THE SUPER MONKEY BALL BANANA MOVIE" and they WHOULD add Yanyan and Doctor too (and even Palette from banana rumble since she was debut as a newest member of the gang) and probably Easel, Fes, Val, and Tee and maybe added the main villian DR. Bad-Boon and his assistant, I not sure if they add Jam and Jet in the movie since they officially no longer canon since since Banana splitz/super monkey ball bounce, and they both really are parts of the main Super Monkey Ball gangs like Aiai, Meemee, Baby, Gongon, Yanyan, Doctor, (and Palette) and really suppose to be 8 or 9 main super Monkey Ball characters and that is Aiai, Meemee, Baby, Gongon, Yanyan, Doctor, Jam, Jet, (and Palette) just like 3d, banana splitz, and bounce, and probably added the other villians like yoko and the other banana blitz boss fights and added the monkey ball adventure monkey characters like papa, princess Dee Dee, prince AbeAbe and more monkey characters added in the movie and also even better in the super monkey ball movie add the monkey ball mini games scenes in the movie like add the monkey race scene, monkey fight scene, monkey target scene, and maybe the monkey dog fight scene from super monkey ball 2 like in the super mario movie they added the mario kart scene and they're eyes will have actuall regular eyes like Dr. Bad-Boon, Fes, and Tee or theyre eyes will still be cartoon eyes, and all of the monkey ball characters will actually talk including Dr. Bad-Boon and the characters design will be base off of Banana Rumble design (including Jam and Jet) and jet will be wearing pants like the rest of the monkeys and jam pretty much wears pants by default. like mee mee has a ponytail with a pink bow on her head her bang her stuby tail and Baby has a stuby tail and bang too and doctor has a beard now and all of the monkeys wear pants and will aiai will have his blue backpack like in most of the modern monkey ball games and will meemee will have a flower on her dress like her classic designs and will meemee will have polka-dots on her dress or even better white flower patterns on her dress and will the monkeys will have actuall feet like they're classic designs has, but I think they wouldn't do it tho because people did just thought monkey ball is a ball simulator game and people who doesn't really know much about it just say like "oh all monkey ball is about is just a game we're you just play as a monkey in a ball" that's it and people didn't even know about the monkey ball characters story and even if they heard there's a monkey ball 2 game that has the cutscenes people said "all of cutscenes is about the monkeys having they're bananas stolen from a evil baboon and the monkeys have to stop it from stilling they're bananas" thats it and maybe Iillumination is thinking the same thing about it that why there isn't a modern monkey ball toy with yanyan or doctor toy or modern happy meal toy or even a super monkey ball cartoon, and Illustration probably don't know more about monkey ball and the characters story of how aiai meets meemee and how baby is aiai and Meemees son? how aiai and meemee were married? how aiai meets gongon, YanYan, Doctor Jam and jet (and Palette), and show how Dr.Badboon becomes a villan and how aiai and his friends finds a magical ball that they get inside and roll fly, run, and bounce, and more (and even spindash) and people didn't know that aiai and meemee were adults and didn't know baby was there son because baby is a white monkey and not a brown monkey like he is in touch and roll maybe he's a alabama monkey, and Super Monkey Ball is a cool popular game then the other sega games like samba de amigo, crazy taxi, billy hatcher, house of the dead, Alex kid, Nights into dreams and more and again Illumination probably don't know more about monkey ball and the characters story of how aiai meets meemee and how baby is aiai and Meemees son how aiai and meemee were married how aiai meets gongon, how Gongon used to be a rival to Aiai but later became friends with each other, how Aiai meets YanYan, Doctor, Jam, and jet ( and Palette and yoko even tho yoko never became a good member and follow theyre new lead since shes a villian in banana blitz) and show how Dr.Badboon becomes a villan and how aiai and his friends finds a magical ball that they get inside and roll fly, run, and bounce, and more and again people didn't know that aiai and meemee were adults mistaking that they're kids and didn't know baby was they're son because baby is a white monkey and not a brown monkey like he is in touch and roll maybe And also aiai and gongon or doctor or jet doesn't have a visible stomach under they're shirts and meemee doesn't have her lower part of her stomach eitherand even tho her skirt covers up her lower body that don't mean they don't add the visible butt a stuby tail and a lower stomach even though her skirt covers her lower body that doesn't really matter because we can see her lower body when she runs shake her butt or other victory animations or when she rolls when she runs too fast seeing her lower body that easy and she even nolonger has a ponytail or a stuby tail like her classic designs until banana rumble even doctor don't have a visible butt but has a stuby tail and Yanyan don't have a visible butt either and is it because she's a Lemur do lemurs have visible skin butts like monkeys, gorillas, and baboons has and not only that Jet the yellow monkey from monkey ball 3D or yoko the black monkey from banana blitz or what ever monkeys they both are because they both not just the regular monkeys like aiai meemee baby and doctor are, but Jet and yoko both dont have a bare butt either and also Jam from step and roll also have his body fully covered because he wears shorts and has his stuby tail sticking out through his shorts. In banana rumble baby has a stuby tail for the first time and Aiai in banana rumble still doesn't wears a blue backpack, also I'm glad that they got redesign in banana rumble since they never got redesign again since banana blitz and i like how they all wear pants! And maybe Brian Matt will voice act one of the characters and he'll be credited in the credits for the first time if that happens unlike banana mania or banana rumble since he doesn't appear as a announcer in these 2 games but idk if it's possible for him to voice act as a movie voice actor because pretty sure Brian Matt is more of a video game voice actor and not a movie voice actor and maybe Patrick Harlan will voice act one of the characters in the movie too if that's possible for him to voice act in the movie and hopefully illumination won't make the super monkey ball movie more of a live action movie like they did with the sonic movie and the fnaf movie and more of a animated movie like they did with mario and despicable me. Their movie design is probably gonna be slightly a banana rumble design but slightly different and make it a 2-hour movie. I even ask a youtuber name Nick Robinson will he make a video of him asking illumination studios to make a super monkey ball movie and he said "yes". Another reason why I ask him that question because in 2019 he made a video of him traveling to different states and asking someone who was a uncredited Super Monkey Ball voice actor and finding a uncredited Super Monkey Ball VA name Brian Matt.
Nah. The controls on the old games are superior to Banana Mania. WHY do I SLOW DOWN when I try to move diagonally?? The tight controls are the point of the game! Why would I play this when I still have Super Monkey Ball 1 and 2? I can't wall boost anymore! I can't do certain speedrun strats anymore! That was cool! Those strats are what seperated the mice from the men. Now it's just mice. Monkey mice. 🐵 🐭
I honestly think that the original games objectively look better which is crazy considering how old they are. The art direction was much stronger for one thing. Too many things clash in banana mania and the colours on some stages are really oversaturated. Everything in the original from the colours to the models all blended well together because it knew what it was going for: a minimalistic aesthetic with some attention to detail sprinkled on top with muted colours. The remake just looks plastic, corporate and it doesn’t seem to have a proper idea on what it wants to look like. Take monkey mall for instance: they made the city below look way too detailed to the point that it clashes with the overall cartoony and simplistic aesthetic of everything else in those levels. This isn’t even getting into the more cheaply produced UI and splash text, the lack of sparks, the less polished animations and lack of reflections that the original had in some cases. The originals are just straight up more detailed in some places too and have some attention to detail that is lacking in banana mania.
This definitely sounds more in part of the engine, since it uses Unity so alot of presets and textures might not be as custom as the one for OG monkey ball. We don't have the original engine so this is the best we can do for better or worse. It is what it is
@@Kelphelp it’s unfortunate indeed. I do think they could’ve made it work with unity but may have required a larger budget than what they were probably given.
The only gripes i have with the game are. Ball SFX. I disliked the way the ball sounded when it's being rolled. It's so late and slow I just dont like it. Banana Pickup SFX. I have a soft spot for the original game's banana sound fx and I hate that they got rid of them. Original OST Paywall. Your kidding right? This should have been implemented in the game at launch. Making that DLC is so fucking greedy and I hate it cause Sega KNOWS we'd wanna listen to it. Guest Characters. I dont really have any big complaints about the special characters. Its just... I would have liked it if they added voicelines to them. Sonic and Tails are understandably silent cause from the classic era we never had any voicelines from sonic before. But Beat and Kiryu? They have no excuses. They could have added their voicelines
I'll be honest all of these points I agree especially thr SFX voice lines for the characters. It's so odd they don't speak or make noises. It kind of takes me out. But on everything I agree. I wish they just did that little bit of oomph
