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The Demarcation Problem - Karl Popper's Falsificationism 

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@renthearchangel9479
@renthearchangel9479 Год назад
There's a slight misunderstanding here: Popper never believed that the more number of tests and the more severe a test a theory passes, the more it is "confirmed", in the sense that it is validated or justified as true, just that it's more "corroborated" or, as he's said it himself, the more it has passed the tests. Corroboration is a measure of how far a theory has passed tests, not how far it's been confirmed. Obviously, no matter how "confirmed" a theory is, if it's false then it's false. Furthermore, you're conflating corroboration (or "confirmation" with a big " ") that is the measure of how well a theory has passed tests with verisimilitude, or how close it is to the truth. Popper has said it himself that corroboration can be seen as an *indicator* of verisimilitude, but is not verisimilitude itself. This is obvious because how true a theory is is independent of our tests. If a theory has never been tested, if it's closer to the truth than a tested theory than it's closer to the truth. We test theories because we don't actually know if they are true, hence we use corroboration as an indicator. The whole thing with Popper being a controversial philosopher is how radical his ideas actually are that we haven't fully inculcated yet. The idea that what Popper is saying isn't what we commonly think to be the case with science just goes to illustrate the radicality of the ideas. We still think of scientific theories as "highly confirmed" for example with quantum mechanics, but Popper's still right that this degree of confirmation doesn't really mean anything unless the confirmation itself will likely to reveal what's wrong with our theories empirically speaking. If quantum mechanics is wrong, then it's just wrong no matter how "highly confirmed" it is. And some people seem to think that we rely on our "inductive materials" or the "empirical evidence" of scientific experiments for the truth of our theories, but that's not correct. We make predictions *using the theories, not the tests of the theories*. You don't use Newton's laws of motion by saying "but the ball does roll down like how he predicted it", we do "given the initial conditions of mass, velocity, acceleration, direction,... we predict that the ball will land given the laws of motion". A theory always assumes its own truth and we use their assumptions to derive predictions. Because our assumptions might just be false (we don't know this just by thinking about them, unless they are logically inconsistent or inconsistent with our background knowledge of other corroborated theories), we have to test them. Even if we continue to rely on our highly confirmed theories into the future, there's no saying that there won't be a situation where it breaks down (we in fact know that most of our current theories do breakdown, any answer to any question that turns up with a "singularity" or an "infinity" is in itself a problem and a breakdown of the theory, like inside our blackholes or at the extreme conditions of the big bang).
@w.harrison7277
@w.harrison7277 8 месяцев назад
If something can't be measured it isn't real. A theory based on infinity or singularities isn't real because they can't be measured. Popper's genius has not emerged in science because of its takeover by non-empiricists who control the Nobel process. The Nobel is not an award for superlative science but for sustaining the reintroduction of mysticism into science by Albert Einstein and ushering in his brethren. The removal of mysticism by Anglo Empiricism gave us modern science in the 19th century but its no more. Science stalled when the takeover of the university by mysticism was completed, in the 1970s with the flooding of women into the university.
@cabinjackalope
@cabinjackalope Год назад
Damn, I was excitedly looking for the Kuhn video and saw that this was the last one uploaded in several years :( What a bummer. This was a wonderful explanation and a great way for me to better understand Popper's arguments, I'm glad I found it :)
@CRaffestin
@CRaffestin 3 года назад
I’m glad to have found your channel. Hopping to see more in feasible future, as long as it also enjoys it.
@chantecabantog8569
@chantecabantog8569 3 года назад
Please more of Popper Please especially the book Logic of Scientific Discovery.
@ThinkTwice2222
@ThinkTwice2222 3 года назад
Can "reality" be falsified?... if not does that mean reality is independent of science?
@j.bourne9991
@j.bourne9991 3 года назад
I love your channel! I hope it would have new videos. From France
@sparaist
@sparaist 3 года назад
As more of visual learner with bad audio processing I'm so glad you added the text to the video with the coloring! Kudos
@mohammadmovahed4831
@mohammadmovahed4831 3 года назад
Thanks. I enjoyed it. one question: what about mathematics and logic? it seems that many parts of these sciences are irrefutable. Does Popper exclude them from genue science?
@whoathatsalotofdamage3718
@whoathatsalotofdamage3718 3 года назад
I'd argue, as math makes no observations about the natural world, it's two seperate schools. Math as we understand it today, is a system that is designed to allow us to count, calculate, measure, and adjust. Mathematicians could easily opt for a seperate system, akin to computers using binary as oppose to trinary
@Minder666
@Minder666 2 года назад
Where's the Kuhn video, yo!? Thank you, please!
@cancelled_user
@cancelled_user 3 года назад
Welcome back girl! :-)
@philosophermit8215
@philosophermit8215 3 года назад
Ok I did!!
@readandrap283
@readandrap283 3 года назад
Thank you for this series 🙏🏼. This is awesome. 👌
@philosophermit8215
@philosophermit8215 3 года назад
You’re welcome!! So glad you’re enjoying it. Hope to get part 2 out soon. 😊
@myjciskate4
@myjciskate4 3 года назад
Just now getting to this video. Great Job! 👍
@DannyORegan1994
@DannyORegan1994 3 года назад
Popper didnt think that a theory somehow becomes "more confirmed" the more it is not falsified.
@philosophermit8215
@philosophermit8215 3 года назад
Sorry, that’s just what I learned in class.
@DannyORegan1994
@DannyORegan1994 3 года назад
@@philosophermit8215 No need for you to apologise at all, least of all to me. If you look up the introduction in Popper's Realism and the Aim of Science, which you can find for free in PDF form on libgen, you will see in a few pages that this common characterisation of Popper is false. Popper's entire epistemology is based on the idea that confirmation of any kind is impossible.
@popperpund2353
@popperpund2353 Год назад
Hello you, where are you from?
@asadkhan-ti7ok
@asadkhan-ti7ok 3 года назад
Awsome! plz make video on kant's philosophy...i can't wrap head around his theory...plz plz plz thank u
@contemplativepursuits
@contemplativepursuits 8 месяцев назад
Remarkably explained.
@sarahjess4233
@sarahjess4233 3 года назад
Welcome back :)
@philosophermit8215
@philosophermit8215 3 года назад
Hey!! Sorry for the late response. I saw that you tried to message me on Instagram, but for some reason I can’t find your account anymore. Feel free to message me again if you’d like!
@shivammudgal9446
@shivammudgal9446 3 года назад
thanks it helped for exam from india
@DavidHIMOPO
@DavidHIMOPO Год назад
Excelent content. You are awsome. Thanks! :)
@JohnnyDrivebye
@JohnnyDrivebye 3 года назад
This was great I love this topic!
@philosophermit8215
@philosophermit8215 3 года назад
Thank you, Johnny! Hoping to get the second part on Kuhn out ASAP!
@JohnnyDrivebye
@JohnnyDrivebye Год назад
@@philosophermit8215 I was going over subscriptions I have and thought I would leave a “hope your doing well”. Comment…. So…. Ahh… that was it…. That’s the comment. I really hope you are doing well. Cheers!
@GeorgWilde
@GeorgWilde 3 года назад
What about Feyerabend?
@TheFujiwaraYusuke
@TheFujiwaraYusuke 3 года назад
Thanks for this video.
@philosophermit8215
@philosophermit8215 3 года назад
You’re welcome!! :-)
@andrewagyeman3338
@andrewagyeman3338 3 года назад
Great exposition
@jonathanfriedel
@jonathanfriedel 3 года назад
Holy Koolaid recommends another great find!
@philosophermit8215
@philosophermit8215 3 года назад
Thanks so much, Johnathon!! It makes me so happy that people are enjoying my videos 😊
@sirellyn
@sirellyn 3 года назад
Turns out, it was Popper who was correct. Kuhn pointed out problems, but they weren't nessecerily problems with Popper's method, nor did his solutions actually solve anything. They made things much worse.
@andyboxish4436
@andyboxish4436 2 месяца назад
Nahh
@thesanesociety5948
@thesanesociety5948 2 года назад
i like your videos
@HhGg-hb4zr
@HhGg-hb4zr 3 года назад
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@ThinkTwice2222
@ThinkTwice2222 3 года назад
Does this mean that "science" can only be objective?... How would that impact a subjective field like psychology?
@privatprivat7279
@privatprivat7279 3 года назад
or more interestingly "religion" and beliefs
@rondobrondo
@rondobrondo 2 года назад
It doesn’t prove that science can only be objective, but psychology is most definitely not a science for other reasons (see: Donald Davidson)
@drewzi2044
@drewzi2044 2 года назад
Popper doesn’t believe that objectivity is necessarily linked to refutability. Since he thinks that philosophy, politics, economics and etc can all be objective enterprises. All Popper means by objective is a field in which correspondence between a statement and the world is possible. So in this sense psychology can be objective, since there are true and false statements that can be made about people’s psychological states.
@andyboxish4436
@andyboxish4436 2 месяца назад
​@@rondobrondosee: why anyone with an anime avatar should never be listened to
@9Ballr
@9Ballr 2 года назад
Nice video! Since induction is the logic of confirmation, and Popper argues that science does not rely on induction (he agrees with Hume that induction cannot be rationally justified), Popper cannot claim that a theory is more confirmed the more instances there are of the theory being tested and not being falsified. Popper talks about "corroboration" rather than "confirmation," but he is walking a tenuous conceptual line here, because if a theory can never be confirmed to any degree, then if a theory has been corroborated (to any degree) the most we can say is that the theory has not yet been falsified. But of course that is not the way we typically talk or think about our currently accepted scientific theories (we do talk about theories like general relativity, or quantum mechanics, or evolution by natural selection as being very highly confirmed, for example), so as a description of actual scientific practice Popper's claim that science does not rely on induction seems rather dubious.
@ghil263
@ghil263 2 года назад
Induction is valid if you're dealing with something mechanistic/programmed. Otherwise, not. This includes people
@JohnnyDrivebye
@JohnnyDrivebye Год назад
Oh and wow! 12000 views on this. Real cool!
@RajatKumar-uv8zz
@RajatKumar-uv8zz 3 года назад
Hiii .... that's Great
@benevolentconcepts
@benevolentconcepts 3 года назад
Falsify ‘Existence’ (I’m serious …. Can you?) ….. and if it isn’t falsifiable…. Do we exist? And if we don’t ….. wtf do we need ‘science’ for? 😆😜🤣😂😄😘😘😘😘
@trifahasan1485
@trifahasan1485 3 года назад
did you have snap chat or instagram?
@privatprivat7279
@privatprivat7279 3 года назад
i just wanne say that... science is based on the physical world...and since all our assumptions we first create and then attempt to proof are made with our conciousness to solve science... its always going to be a problem...because there is no proof of what conciousness is (yet) but we all have assumptions what it is....inductive method is always linked and based with the physical realm....not the spiritual realm...and we are all spiritual... we are spiritual beings trying to explain the physical world...without understanding the spiritual world based on proof (because we are still devided spiritualy after 1000's of years) lets hope quantum physics can change that and provide us with proof.
@bensibley7931
@bensibley7931 2 года назад
super hot
@kingkonglang
@kingkonglang Год назад
I know where the line of demarcation is. All of you will know my name.
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