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Beato said the drums were recorded WITHOUT cymbals and hats, and then had them overdubbed after. That, to me is crazy. But if anyone could do it, it's Dave Grohl. Songs for the Deaf is a great album, and I still love No One Knows. Awesome video!
Eric Valentine had a video on his channel that he was forced to take off (probably by QotSA themselves) where he broke down the multitracks of the song. Someone reuploaded it a few months ago if you can find it! Super cool watch if you’re into Beato type stuff
If you wanna go crazy with the herta, invert it. Doing that gives you the ability to accent the 1 and then do the triple after. This is great for nailing a cymbal on each beat and getting the triple inbetween. Sounds great in fills. It lets the cymbal and kick hit hard, and then the tappatatapp adds that spice on the snare and toms. It's also cool if you do kick and cymbal, tappataptap, then snare and cymbal tappataptap and go back and forth. Gives a really powerful halftime feel. Herta is an awesome trick. It has all the mindflipping properties of a triplet fill in 4/4, but it sounds way more impressive.
On the topic of Bleed it was actually one of the guitarists Frederik Thordendal who came up with the various patterns in that song. Originally it was for a practice routine but then he presented it to the rest of the band as a potential song. They had doubts if it was actually doable on kick drums for a while and it ended up taking their drummer Thomas Haake around half a year to learn how to properly play it all the way through. It almost didn't make it onto the album and now it's their most famous song, love that band for how they're always pushing limits.
That it took someone who already plays with such speed and precision _half a year_ for that lick is honestly really encouraging, and a little humbling. The best aren’t just the best cause they’re the best (lol), they have the humility and wisdom to recognize that things take time. It’s very easy for me to want to give up the second I stop seeing immediate gains, and I imagine that’s one of the bigger differentiators between someone like myself and the pros
Very well done there, Mike. "No One Knows" always made me think of "Detroit Rock City" as well. Queens are probably the best straight rock band of the past 25 years imo. That drum fill was instantly addictive when I first heard it. Good job replicating it. 👍👏🤘
Every time I hear that song or think of that song it reminds me of “A Day in the Life” by the Beatles .. how they both have this epic build up and then it stops and 1 instrument continues playing by itself.. the Piano 🎹 on “A Day in the Life” and the Bass 🎸 on “No One Knows” 😂
Funnily enough, they asked the orchestra specifically for the "A Day in the Life" thing but tried to be sneaky about it by describing but not referring to the song by name, but someone in the orchestra responded by saying "Oh, you mean the A Day in the Life thing? We get asked to do that all the time."
@@topher4677 😂 that’s hilarious it’s like “tell me you want to rip them off without telling me you want to rip them off” I love the song though.. I’ve seen QOTSA live .. actually wit the Foo Fighters 😂 both amazing live
@kevvcop Objectively, factually false. They actually pioneered or helped pioneer quite a bit of things, from popular musical composition and musical genres (including electronic music and even heavy metal), to production techniques including looping and sampling. They really were ridiculously important.
First time I heard a Herta (or really noticed it) was on A7X' Nightmare, just at the end of the chorus leading in to the verse. I was so determined to learn that and to this day it's still one of my favorite fills. I do them all the time with my hands on the table, knees, or what ever I can drum on 😂
Manu Ketuche from Peter Gabriel has some cool fills and tom work. I get chills from what he does in 'In your eyes' and 'san jancito' from secret world live, and 'Lay your hands on me' in Live from athens
This is a very hard rudiment to perfect. I am still working on it. Doing it like this song calls for is tough....going back and forth from snare to toms and back to snare and a the speed it's played at. Very advanced
Very well explained and demonstrated. That particular rudiment is all over music over the years. As soon as you played it at speed I started to really recognize it, though I seem to recall it being used in conjunction with other rudiments in the same fill most of the time. So, you might start with the Herta and switch to a strait triplet or some other rudiment within the same fill and then back to the herta, etc, etc.
I like a herta based fill from a Nightwish song called Stargazers, at the end of the verse. The drummer does four hertas on the snare but as 16th notes, so he ends up filling three beats of the measure and then just does the last beat as regular 16th notes on the toms. It sounds pretty epic.
I didn't even knew that was a rudiment! I learned that song by ear and it took some time to learn the fills but I got it and since, I've been adding that same fill to a lot of time of practice. Now that I know that was a rudiment, kinda wanna know what other rudiments I've been playing without knowing. Thx for the video, very explicative, loved it!
Great stuff man! There's a Satriani tune called "if" and the drums are just amazing all the way through. I'm probably the only guitar player who listens to a Satch tune for the drums! It's fascinating watching someone who is well versed in both instruments. You should check it out. It's slathered in nuance.
The drummer of "If" and most of the tunes on that Satriani album is Manu Katche (also mentioned in a comment above). Brilliant French drummer who played for Peter Gabriel and Sting.
You should look up ‘Desert Sessions’; Josh Homme basically kept a fluid group of musicians constantly coming around, some made it on record multiple times, some didn’t make it at all, really interesting period in music generally tbf RIP KYUSS
When I was a touring drummer with Atomship, I always put the mic stand behind me and to the left. It seemed to be the most out of the way plus I could swing it back and fourth as needed.
The guitar player from messugha came up with the part first. Thomas actually states that riff is what made him develope his playing to what it is today.
The grunge era tends to get overlooked as far as musicianship is concerned but there was a bunch of good drummers. Heck, if Dave Grohl is like, the 3rd or 4th best drummer in rock music, you know there’s some talent around. Jimmy Chamberlain (the Smashing Pumpkins) was an absolutely amazing drummer and Matt Cameron is so underrated it’s criminal. Dude played in the oddest time signatures while making it sound totally smooth and Normal.
An important fill to know. I couldn't do it well for a long time because I didn't have strong rudiment skills. The accent placement and speed is what really sells this fill. Usually hard first note accent then putting those first three notes really tight together. Accenting third note flips the feel interestingly. Experiment with the accent. Great vid!
Very nice breakdown of a simple rudiment that can be used anywhere. Also thanks for mentioning Bleed, I didn’t think that you would know about that song, then again I think that was due to me being ignorant.
I just bought a drum set and earlier today I listened to this song and thinking how cool this fill is. What a coincidence to find your video now. Or wait…😂😮
Had no idea you played drums awesome. I’m in reverse drummer all my life and picked up the guitar 8 years ago after Dave explained how he started playing guitar.
I saw Dave grohl in foo fighters back in 2018. It was my last concert before COVID started. And possibly in ghost when they opened for Iron Maiden but it’s not confirmed If Dave was performing then.
Great video... An interesting fill is in Nirvana's 'Aneurysm'... At the start when the tom build up is about to finish Dave Grohl does a killer fill into the Heavy part. On first listen it's sort of similar to the fill at the start of 'Enough Space' by Foo Fighters but actually not really in practice. Check it out
2:23 That’s really interesting, because I remember hearing that this was a Lamborghini exhaust. I think it was even Alex who told the story , and I think it was Eddie’s car. But you’re right, those are hertas.
Speaking of Alex Van Halen, he uses a herta in a fill in the song One Foot Out The Door from Fair Warning that has been one of my favorite films for basically my whole life. I remember practicing it for hours and hours when I was like 12 and couldn't figure it out. Then I took it to my drum teacher and he was like "oh that's easy, it's just a fast herta." Duh! Lol
Also, can you please do a breakdown of the song Art of Dying by Gojira. I really want to learn how to play this song, and I trust you the most to explain how to play this complicated song. Thanks Mike.
When I started karate out of high school I would do a lot of paradiddle combinations when I would punch. Yup you can throw rudiments into a lot of things.
Hey the Peter Chris video got my attention I appreciated the way you took up for him or whatever you know. Highlighted this technique. I just wondering if you could do something like that for Metallica's drummer Lars people are saying he sucks suck that's what people say. Thanks for the content
To answer your last comment about whether the guitarist or the drummer came up with bleed first, it was the drummer. He was doing a solo at a gig and stumbled on the herta thing. Anyway, Grohl is an absolute fucking animal and everyone knows it
How to spot a drummer with classical percussion training from a group of drummers with no classical training? Check the way they hold their sticks :D Percussionists hold their sticks with their palms basically parallel to the snare (maybe a 5-10º angle) much like you see conga players or a basketballer would play, while drummers will have their palms perpendicular to the snare and hi-hat, much like a "karate chop" massage motion. Try it out and let me know which one you think gives you more control (responses will vary). From a muscle, tendon and energy efficiency perspective, I feel like the way most drummers grab their sticks (like the guy in the video) is inefficient since the wrist's range of motion from the highest point to the lowest is of about 90º, whereas the classical way (like the way you dribble a basketball) allows close to 160-180º. Sure you get use to it either way, sure you can do amazing things either way (drummers are amazing, after all!!!), but you're asking your wrists to get used to a motion that is limiting movement to some extent.
If you had just said No One Knows or QOTSA it wouldn’t have taken me 24hrs to get her lol! That song blew me away too, got that album and saw the tour (but without Dave Grohl)
Fun and relevant fact since you mentioned them a few times - Thomas Haake from Meshuggah counts the Songs For The Deaf album as one of his all time favourite drum performances.
Ha! I had this all wrong. I thought it was swiss triplets, but the feel always was off when I played it. It's just that he's playing so fast it almost sounds like a flam, but no, definitely a 16th note. I could tell the second you played it where I was getting it wrong.
