The DIFFERENCE Between GOOD and BAD ADC PLAYERS! 

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Bad ADC - Gets one shot every time Good ADC - Gets stunned, uses QSS, gets one shot any way

The difference is that the good ones are always on the enemy team and the bad ones are usually on your team

my favorite skillcapped quote is "as ADC in teamfight, literally just stand as far back as possible and hit the person closest to you." helped me more than any other quote.

In the video, the last question is a trick one. The true answer is that lee is afk.

As someone who plays every role and definitely isn't challenger, I know I make plenty of mistakes, but bot lane is the only role where I find myself often thinking "what the fuck was I supposed to do here?" It's the only place where you will sometimes get ganked nonstop all lane by the whole enemy team; even if you play safe and don't reward them for their ganks, they'll keep doing it just to stop you from playing the game. At that point either your team capitalizes on the enemy team's borderline-inting plays... or they don't. Then you lose and you'll likely get blamed for it even if you don't die to the constant ganks. Don't get me wrong - while I knew the answers to the questions in the video, that doesn't mean I never make the same mistakes. It's just pretty easy to recognize when I've made such a mistake, and the only lane where I find myself frequently in situations I feel I have absolutely no control over is bot lane. I can usually deal with a support who's not great or isn't on the same page as me (helps that I know the support's perspective), but the one thing I haven't figured out how the hell to carry through is a 2v4 at 3 minutes followed by a 2v5 at 5 minutes, or a jungler entirely ignoring top to the point that they don't farm their topside ever and end up at half your jg's farm just to camp you. Everyone gets unlucky and ends up in situations like that sometimes, but bot is the only place where I expect it to happen to me routinely.

The worst supports you can get are the ones that you have to fight for farm. Like I had a Zilian today that constantly threw his bombs on the enemy minions. Really really hard to farm that, he didnt even stop after I asked him twice not to do that. Lost the game to the enemy mid cassio being super fed, but still. Might have been able to do something about it, if I had some items :D

One of the biggest issues I've had in low elo as a support is that whenever as a support (no matter what support I am even if I am a Yuumi) I will try to tank for whoever I am supporting, however despite how all the attention is on me my teammate hesitates so much they end up trying to position themselves out of a danger they are not in, so rather than engaging and landing autos/spells they are trying to run away. Then if I die it's obviously entirely my fault

I think adc has even less agency than even support since supports are more impactful early and add value to the team even without damage

Plenty of times I´ve seen that Jinx and Blitz-scenario happen but instead of Blitz going for Leona, he flashes past her to knock up Jhin that is on half or a quarter of health with both summoners up and suddenly there is a Leona between you and your support. Leona goes straight for you while Jhin kites back to tower or prefarably towards Leona and kill Blitz. Meanwhile you gets a Leona in your face, so by now you´ve been stunned and ignited/exhausted while tanking the whole creepwave if you tried to stay in the fight and didn´t bail out as soon as Blitz flashed behind enemy lines. I see this happen all the time, the support flashing for the "easy" kill, rather than peeling on the adc! When I play Leona I almost always win lane because I just use this kind of behavior to our advantage. In low elo I do not need to make plays just use their mistakes for our advantage. And they will do this dumb shit all the time, then blame eachother and I will always agree with the biggest fool on the enemy team, so he feels empowered because he made "the right" play but his team failed. He won´t listen to them and do the same dumb shit over and over while blaming them for him feeding, they start to argue even more and you just keep adding fuel to the fire in order to keep the tilt going xD

Awesome video. One thing to point out… At 1:21, I wouldn’t say the only two options are: 1. Chase 2. Back-off I’d propose option 3: 3. Switch to rockets, hit lulu and slash aph, widening your advantage. Don’t back off, but don’t chase. Take the third option. Pump out FREE harass damage.

Eh, first play, just because you keep going for the kill doesn't mean you have to flash straight into the red minion wave, you could just casually chase through the bushes and then decide to turn back or flash in later.

Kiting If you can do that, you're already better than most ADCs

I've been using your tips for a couple months now and I got every question right, but I have to say, just because you as an ADC understand wave control and manipulation doesn't mean your team will play around it in low elo. At 4:01 if this were my game the jungler wouldn't have taken advantage of this or would have dove from the wrong angle (from the brush behind tower) and died, assuming the support didn't ruin my slow push or my crash to begin with. I feel like there's a baseline competency that you need from your team to function as an ADC - if I have that, I go 10/0/whatever. If I don't, I go 4/5/5 or something and get flamed for low damage because I spent the rest of the game trying to farm sidelanes to become relevant but the team surrenders before I can.

Well the problem with bad sups is not they are engaging, is they dont engage, they just sit in lane afk 15 min and dieng by ganks without proper warding.

Just like JG diff, ADC diff is most likely the result of team diff. It's the most team-reliant role that shines in very little compared to others, when you take away the team who is supposed to do the rest of the essentials for the marksman, what can one do other than whatever damage they can cause?

I‘m playing low elo and I am supp and adc main. In ranked I mostly chose supp because I have more impact in the game like that. And I think in low elo most people think supp is an easy role like a second mid or something and they have no idea how really play supp. Most of those people are constantly pushing, engaging if there’s a big wave, not warding, engage with no wards or enemy jungle to see and ofc no one ever peels an adc. I‘m getting behind because other lanes never know how to play around an adc. In late I can’t farm bc jungler pings me away from his jungle, mid laner don’t move to side lanes and supporter keep pushing and clearing the farm. It‘s so frustrating how useless you are as an adc without many kills and farm while ur whole team blames you for it even though they ruin everything u need to do to deal a lot of damage.

Would a full game commentary from botlane perspective be possible? I feel like you can get the advantage early, but that's when your agency is the least and as a low elo ADC you're most likely to throw it before the mid game. I'd really like to see the full transition.

One of my biggest consistent mistakes is trying to chase down enemy champions because I blew ult and summoner spells on them out of frustration.

The first example is not good, jinx situation had more space to chase aphelios, draven has clearly no space to chase so is not the same situation at all, and the champs are differents, aph + lulu are not even half strong than naut + draven so situation changes a lot.

example 1 good adc: doesnt chase and starts to focuse the wave, blitz chases dies blames ADC spams ff rep adc and proceeds to abandon the lane lose huge xp being useless every other lane.

again supports are still a massive problem with tracking junglers, often they get impatient for not pushing, crashing and getting plates... esp ranged supports. Sometimes they have just combo the wave for themself break your freeze and back. This video should be included in support training.

While I got these questions right I think a lot of the framing makes it easier to answer. Chances are I wouldn't have been thinking about all of this all at once, personally I know my map awareness in general is bad, though I do at least put down vision and pay some attention so I don't tend to die to every obvious gank. Certainly even if I know these things I need to improve on them through practice.

if u love cheater recall so much skill capped then why dont u marry it!!!

I often run into the situation of doing the right thing, failing at it mechanically and ending up behind. For example that jinx flashing after leona. If she clicks on a minion once she dies, jhin gets a crash and is probably about 400 gold and 1.5 lvls ahead making jinx not have any impact on the game until she has at least 2 full items.

This is helpful as a support main to know the ideas that my adc is thinking about

The learning curve of this game is too much for many unfortunately leading to a toxic environment between the 'good' and the 'bad' players. Good video!

I'm glad I got the first one correct, cuz one. I'm learning to be an ADC with Vayne, two. I'm still learning the kiting method, and three. I need to get better at other lanes regardless XD

7:40 I honestly think this advice is wrong, although it works out here and turns out perfectly, it was extremely close to being a disater and giving jhin a double kill trading 1for2 on their support. I’d say that it’s much better to focus Jhin, worst case he backs off and stops dpsing, then you switch to Leona. This way even if you don’t get the kills you’re at a big hp advantage and can still lane

As an ADC main i primarily focus on wave management and rely on my support to make plays in laning phase unless I've a soraka/yuumi.

What is the background music?! Awesome vibes!

The first one happened EXACTLY like that and I backed off, just for my support to say “wake up” and “report” several times 🤦🏻‍♀️

"Their Jungler Threw At Scuttle Or Dragon" man that hits hard especially when as a Jungler you need help and none of your botlane even tried to help and you get 1v3 by the enemy Jungler and Botlane at scuttle.

Pretty cool had to learn lot of lessons the hardway

I still have a ton to work on...but I now understand better what I need to do.🥃

12:52 No, I'm good at answering questions when I've watched previous videos that covered the information and I'm given a multiple choice question. There's no way that, in the moment, I would have even noticed that Lee hadn't shown on the map yet, nor would I have thought to question going in on him.

the tutorial i need now, thx

I got all of them right but in game I would probably do all the wrong decisions. How can I make the right decision when there is such a small window of time to think

After watching this channel and occasionally seeing a tyler1 short once in a few months, I can definitely tell he's learned a lot from this channel lol

i realized at 50 seconds in im a bad adc player video gave me a new mindset ty I fixed my shit literally jumped from silver 3 to gold 2 in a month

That Jinx should have also realized something from champ select...they were fighting vs ranged champ her partner cannot do much once his grap is done in term of AA compare to the lulu range which eats at him as for the rest well nothing much to add there.

The change to tp ruined toplane forever... the most satisflying thing of that role was to get an advantage and feeling helpful helping your team with tp. Now for 14 minutes you are almost out of the game, and you are a monster to think that that change was good.

The worse you are the more you depend on your team, so bad players will always be very angry when their team isn't performing, I've been there. I've got a lot of improving to do but I can usually accomplish a positive KDA as ADC even when everyone on my team is 0-5 after focusing on improving and watching a lot of these guides. When I'm 9-2 and lose a game hard I'm really quite proud of myself that I was able to accomplish a KDA like that when everyone else is inting.

5:02 An inting support is bait. You get free dmg on both enemy adc and supp bc they focus yours.

Although this advice from this video is very very good, it is difficult to apply some of it to low elo because of the inconsistency of my teammates. I am hardstuck silver 2-1 adc main, I typically play Jhin, Xayah, Zeri, Ezreal, and some miss fortune, and even though I play lanes decent (not all the time but I don’t int) I still lose. Usually because of my jungler most games (not just saying jungle diff to blame someone, it genuinely usually is jungle diff) cause they either try to gank at a terrible time, don’t listen to pings, don’t focus objectives when needed, etc. and sometimes I get shit supports that miss all their skill shots, get hit by everything, and die. I recently played with 3 different random lux’s, all in a row. Every single one was terrible. The last game I played with one was somewhat my fault as well, but the first two weren’t. The first two lux’s kept taking my farm with her e (they do it on purpose at this point), missed her e and q on enemy champions, then would get hit by everything they have to throw at her and even if I try and help I can’t do shit cause I’m 1v2ing after she gets one shot. She also kept randomly throwing r right before an actual teamfight (like before an objective so she wouldn’t have r up each fight) it genuinely felt like I was playing with the same Lux player both games but they were just both awful. And the second Lux was flaming everyone on our team too, I barely said anything. It’s just frustrating cause I often do very well in lane, I rarely die to ganks, I have decent cs, etc. the problem I come across as an adc is if my team isn’t even to ahead in their lanes, I lose. Even if they’re slightly behind if someone on the enemy team is fed, I just lose cause I die in two seconds. I either don’t contribute to teamfights and try and farm and apply pressure to lanes, or I contribute and die to the extremely fed Zed player or something. At this point I just wanna be done with adc and play another role. Adc genuinely feels so shit to play.

I like comparing league to hema to explain it. Both Finesse(macro) and Brute Strength(Micro) Are needed if 2 people of equal strength size height etc, fought whoever was more skilled would win if they are even 50/50. Same with skill, While skill/macro is incredibly important. You have to have the micro and raw strength to use it

helpful video tnx

10:27 I'm looking for something like this for month. Thx

my only wrong answer was to the question: "Who should you focus, jhin or leona". I know Im bad at deciding who to focus all the time, im just not sure most of the time...

Even tho i make a lot of mistakes during laning phase, i usually end up winning lane playing as support. The real big problem comes when lanning phase ends and your teammates start doing random shit and throwing. Just yesterday, my team was winning hard (2 enemy inibs down at 20min). As i was leaving base and saying "lets go bot as 5 and end the game", my adc and mid laner die in the enemy jungle facecheking bushes. Long story short, the game went on for more 20min and my team almost lost the game...

I Love your skill capped site and i have to learn a lot Often i get Killed by ganks I think i have nice mechanics and Good Wave control but Looking my mini map and jungle awarness ist awful😅

I am nowhere near Challenger and am still learning but a quick question. In the scenario with Draven, they have a huge amount of advantage because of HP and summoner skills. Why wouldn't he just freeze the wave and block them out from farming? Is it because of the jungle? I know the item advantage is strong but it seems like denying farm first, then crashing the wave before B would be a better play?

That there actually is a video that tells you to check cracked me up

These tips will surely assist me as I climb out of Iron

Ive wonder how many time, I, as a support, ping top that the jungler is missing, only for them to be ganked like 10s after. 10 whole second when they could have back off and avoid an easy death

Don't think heal would of mattered since blitz was under ignite and a full twitch passive.

Honestly about Caitlyn auto attack with trap - I'd argue you are wrong. Trap then auto. Even Sabre says this, and he's a Cait main

Watching that first scene with Jinx, I said I would back off but I would also get instant flame by support LMFAOOOOOOO

What about my 0/14 Soraka from earlier? Is it my fault when I had 2 deaths in lane while they were already at 8+?

1. is definitely chase, but instead of flashing, you should force Aphellios to flash. You still have 2 free autos anyways.

I remember this one game from the first few months after I started playing League - this Taric that was supposed to be my support, as I played Ashe on bot lane, kept stealing my creep score, then abandoned the bot lane before I reached Lvl6 (I think he was Lvl4 when that happened), and kept complaining that -> I

I STILL cannot tell which rank is which was the Cait bronze or gold like I wouldn't know

At the end if the day it doesnt matter because you’re limited by your support. Vice versa. Good synergy is more important imo

In that first jinx video, I would definitely back off and get reported by my entire team for not chasing

nice video, what I really need to learn is ''is it worth it?''. Let me explain. I usally get a cheater recall and come back to lane and freeze. I can do that %90 of my games, but the problem is when should I break the freeze. When I break the freeze, get a slow push and 3 waves under enemy tower,get some plates and poke, when should I stop? And even if I wanted to stop,how am I going to? I push 3 waves ,I go to base and enemy clears the wave instantly and I get no advantage only a few minions? I feel like this is not enough help me please

Can u explain in a vídeo why janna top with smite works? Top 10 Challenger EUW is using supports with smite un ranked and It works

6:26 W commentaryn🤣

The Lee lvl 3 gank is the most terrifying thing in lol

But caitlyn heal wouldn't do anything on blitz, since ignite and twitch passive.

Idk, that Lee sin could have started on bot side. Having watched pro games, those junglers don't get leashes. However, I would have chosen backing off anyways because you don't have vision in the river. Not to mention the enemy is pushed up pretty far. So with no vision and the enemy pushing, it is possible for a gank to be going down. I also want to point out that with the Leona kill that you said to focus, the adc still flashed for that kill. The only reason her all in went better than the Caitlin's or the previous Jinx was not macro but mechanical. The Jinx was just better at kiting and dps.

actually blitz prolly can't live to go to second brush cause 2 things 1. he is ignited so heal wont heal him for more than 80 hp or so 2. twitch passive poison stack would still get him cause he can clearly auto him twice and he can just walk back with hp enough to survive and cait would prolly die too since pyke q e would be off of cooldown

I have been playing blizzcrank so I have enough health to take and save them from thowing the game.

1:37 jinx underestimated the shield of lulu , the enemy minion wave damage and exhaust and heal.

Ok there is some things i would do different i would go after the aphelios but i wouldnt flash...

If the jinx flashed onto bushes and lose the minions agro I'm pretty sure the all in would have been the Right play

Im a support player, but got most of those right except the 1 choice to focus Leona instead of Jhin, I picked Jhin >.

I'm literally the other way around, I could've autoattack more but I just stop xD and then get no kills, but i also dont die

my Esports team captain showed us this in a meeting I was so nervous to answer wrong cause my role on our team is adc but i got every one right :3. We ended up winning the tournament 3 days later. Thanks for reminding me about all this stuff

I have a lot to work on to be gold this season

I'm new to the game so give me some slack, but what do you mean when you say "auto attack on cooldown"? Is it a thing when you do more damage the first shot and less the second one? or is it something else?

I got them all right but I need more work.... bc I'm hard stuck silver. Sadge

its okay or more likely absolutely essential to switch targets, the low health adc will come back on its own when you are about to kill his friend. and its totally fine when hes not coming back. more time to establish wave control, crash and reset or do whatever you have to do. but you cant do all that when you are dead, think about it.

I feel that foe the short amount of time ive been playing league im actually not half bad adc, given that generally i feel that i learned not to overextended pretty early on, i owe a lot of that to this channel lmao

After maining adcs for 3 years i moved to mid lane for a bit. I was really done with getting oneshot by any champ in the game.. now its heimerdonger mid 😁

The red wasnt onthe minimap anymore

I got a nautilus who flashes under their turret miss q into the wall and im playing samira, while he was playing well before, how can you predict that

almost always winning lane but then the enemy 10/0 top laner vistis me

I think I am decent for my elo but I autopilot to much

0:05, no, its midlane

4:24 Draven living with literally 1hp XD

5:30 ish, one thing people never do either is FOCUS THE CARRY. I get it pyke was lower, but sheesh. ALL THE TIME do low elo ADCs do this, I've noticed.

i think i'm not that bad of an ADC, the thing is that I still need to learn all supports kits because sometimes I get paired with a support I have no idea what the role is and end up not following their int because I didn't know they were gonna do it, and didn't think that they would do it. I used to main jungle so I'm an insane jungler spotter, I often even ping other lanes that they are in danger if I don't see them back off xD

7:42 thats a very very bad example for support inting thresh played that correct

I got one question wrong and its wich to focus leona or jhin...but i said if i was in a real game I would've focused leona...so idk did i get it right or no

so i got one question wrong... I usually play jinx so I said I wouldn't target Leona because Leona is so tanky... but then I realized Leona was only lvl 2 in this clip. If she was a higher level and the same situation happened, shouldn't I target the ADC instead of Leona ? I've been playing league for 6 months~ but had a really good friend help me out with all these things before so I'm happy I got the other ones right!

In the first clip the idea of chasing them isn't bad though, surely Jinx could have just kept autoing (assuming she has lethal tempo) and not flash and potenially force the heal or flash or both. Also Blitzcrank Q would be coming up if not soon then after the trade and if Jinx had proced the flash it would be an easy level 2 or possible level 1 kill from Blitzcrank Q set up. I understand that maybe that angle she might not have been able to hit Aphelios even with lethal tempo range but Lulu was still in range so chunking Lulu out also sets up for a level 2-3 play for Jinx and Blitzcrank. Just my take on it, I could be wrong.

In a 5 vs 5 game, it really does not matter in 95% of matches, how good YOU are (presuming youre placed in the correct MMR). Even if you play perfectly, if your team are useless and get outplayed by the enemy team who are all, on average, far better players than your team, YOU LOSE. To carry 1 vs 5 you need a certain champion of maybe 3-4 out of ALL the ADC's and a shit load of LUCK. The impact you can have as a carry, either AP or AD, in a 5v5 is very small. It's a team game. Hence why, unless youre smurfing, the winrate for 90% of all players is between 48-52%. That's how RIOT do it. If you lose 10 games in a row because your teams are awful or you have AFKS or whatever, you will suddenly be handed 10 easy wins vs bad players. Most LOL games are either easy wins or hard losses. Thats how it is, in any 5v5. LOL is not like Quake Live where its 1v1 and you can ONLY blame yourself, and it comes down to who is the best player (95%) and luck (5%). Leauge comes down to who is the best player (10%) and luck (90%).

Im main support but on adc i have a 70%wr on my main account. I never blame my support. Except if he is wintrading or some bulcrap like that.

i got the questions right but then my supps flame me for not going for the kill and then they die 😭

The answer to the first question should be neither, no? Because chasing for the kill is, as we can see, a throw, but immediately backing off will result in not getting any of Aphelios' spells because of lack of pressure. So Jinx could've chased for a while to see if Aphelios uses any of his summoners, then back off regardless.