Pro Tip; all "Aerospace grade carbon fiber" means is that is certified to go on an aircraft, so in a shoe sole all that means is... you're gonna have to pay a lot more for it
On paper the aero space carbon fibers flexibility can be 20-50% more than with regular carbon fiber. I have never touched carbon fiber tho so I’m gonna have to see how this translates to real life applications
You’re wrong about the Vaporfly s. They are designed with forefoot/mid foot striking in Mind, when the shoe hits the ground the plate expands towards the ground and it springs Back into its original state and that transition gives a forward push/energy return. So the Nike plate design is superior.
Exactly what I was thinking too - the plate doesn’t need you to input extra energy to bend it like the vktry ones, but it will spring back just the same
@Sulk coming from the person who said to trust it because it’s right in front of you? That’s what a scam essentially is. Need to reconsider who’s IQ you are referring to
@Sulk bro they're talking bullshit. And you just proved that you'd believe anything you see, you just need a man saying random words in order without any real explaination😂😂😂 nike has the shoes and soles both included 150$, this company is selling just the soles at 170$ who in the fucking right mind with iq above 20 would buy this? It's pretty ironic that you made an "low IQ" comment lol.
@Sulk maybe do you what you just said you sped your have room temperature iq he didnt show anything in the video his only source was trust me bro and these guys are making reviews on their own product which already should tell you that it’s useless
The nike vapor fly carbon plate is NOT designed to transition from heel to toe. That’s why there is a larger width at the toe than the heel and why it is curved upwards at the back. No Nike running shoe or spike is designed to transition from heel to toe while running, that is false. Maybe these soles are good for basketball, but not for track. It is not necessary and the Nike spikes are more adapted and engineered for running and sprinting. These soles will give you no advantage for track and will cost you an extra $200 for a pair of soles. Please do not buy these for track or running, you can much easier get a Nike or other running brand shoe that already has the same if not better technology for much much cheaper.
Yeah, Nike puts more money into research and design than any other shoe company. If it was as easy as just making a shoe with a slightly convex sheet of carbon fiber they'd have done that decades ago
@@tuamigoyvecinolevi for a non douchebag answer: Elluid Kipchoge is a Nike sponsored runner from Kenya and currently holds the marathon world record of 2:01:09. He also broke the legendary 2 hour barrier (unofficially), with the help of many pacers, which ensured he was going the right speed and to block the wind. On his feet were a version of the alphafly, nike's most advanced running shoe. The shoe utilizes a combination of zoom x foam (pebax tpe), a carbon fiber plate, and zoom air pods (pockets of air and tensile fibers designed for maximum energy return).
I would like to see the data on the long-term effects of having a jolt of unnatural energy shoot through your feet every time you take a step. Maybe it's fine, just seems odd to me haha.
This wouldn't even help your jump. There's way too much weight and people can't bend their feet like they bend these soles. It's just a scam to sucker people out of $170
Ok, I had my reservations about this product, but decided to give it the benefit of the doubt. That was because the Nike vaporfly existed, a similar product that gave a statistical advantage to runners, backed by data and also banned for this reason in competitions. But seeing how they're now trying to undermine the vaporflys engineering, VKTRY looks highly suspicious. Not to mention the aggressive, buzzword loaded, and weak misleading demonstrations in their advertising. Also it looks painful as hell to use, the vaporflys actually also have foam padding and conforms to your running motion, unlike this rigid hunk of junk that will tear your arches. Your feet aren't meant to absorb that much force directly, whether it's running or jumping,.
“When you pick your heel up” - thats where you lose energy, (or input a lot of energy). And yes you get some back, but not much. On the other hand if you forefoot strike on Nike plate, your heel shoots up “effortless”. Because you convert gravitational potential energy which accumulated during “fly” phase into kinetic energy upon landing.
Physics favors nike here. That stored energy will lower life of the insole. The resistance built up will be felt over the top of the shoe laces. It will disrupt natural roll cadence. The Nike is even better for running without heel contact.
it does the same thing and that shape gives you more energy because when you press heel while striking the toe section is even gonna go higher and if you press that angled toe section you will basicly have vktory insole since nike plate not desinged to be flat that shank will pop even more giving you a lot of energy and boost. btw you can not make arguler plate in a insole thats why they cappin about nike
I can't comment on these but I'm curious. I can say that the Saucony endorphin pros make you faster. I bet all of these carbon plates do. You can feel the spring.
There's no way they create enough force to increase someone's vertical tho. Flipping an 8 oz shoe up in the air is one thing, but to flip the body weight up of an athlete wearing them is another. This is such BS.
The things is where the dip is in the sole that’s where the energy pods are so the energy storage isn’t much needed as the energy pods help on that stride but all together it’s a marathon shoe not sprinting shoe so you don’t need power generating from the back of the shoe you need more in the middle of the shoe, where the energy pods are. The insoles can make you jump higher but not by much. So 150 dollars for 1 inch higher vert is crazy in my opinion.
Looks as if you will encounter resistance while running or walking cause the insert will want to stay flat. Looks like it may be good for jumping but you will use a lot of energy just by walking or running around.
I don't think people's feet bend the way the vktry plate was demonstrated to bend during a run. you either land on your forefoot or your heel but your foot DOES NOT bend as demonstrated(your toes bend at the tarsal joints) but not the foot. if this shoe is going to bend the way it is demonstrated then I am sure there will be alot of injuries just running normally.
So they are saying their product stores more energy because it starts out flat. But then again, the runner would have to exert more energy to bend that stiff carbon plate. Science!
Lmao I pity the people who really thinks a freaking carbon plate can give them a “pop” when they use it in the shoe. No amount of tech in a shoe can increase your vertical or speed on the court. It can affect your comfort though.
Both are still not foot shaped. Why do most companies make shoes that aren't foot shaped?! That's like wearing mittens that smash your fingers together...for years.
Thats no a vaporfly carbon plate, and if that was the plate of the vaporfly, it wouldn't be bent like that once it is inside the foam of the shoe. Do better research
With how easy it was for him to bend the vktry plate shows how little energy it is actually storing. Put a 10-15 stone man on top of that and your vertical will have a neglible difference. If they want to dispute this post the actual amount of stored potential energy at a realistic bend on the plate that is possible with human feet and we can calculate it exactly.
Man at the end of the day its not making you faster or even pick your foot up quicker. Its a scam. They filmed sum ad at my old Hs and ahit was total Bs
You have to be crazy to wear carbon fiber INSOLES when running. Ouch. And I don't see how a FLAT carbon insert propels you forward. Nike's actually makes sense
This is bullshit the Nike carbon plate is in combination with zoomxfoam that gives also energy return. Your carbon soles will just be ass for running. Because it is not placed in the shoe foam
I have a question. I’m a server in a fine dining restaurant that requires me to be on my feet for many extended hours. Would these reduce foot and leg fatigue from simply walking and standing for long periods of time?
Regular store inserts are the same help without all the extra $$. There are a few factors to determine product. The most important part is start with a supportive shoe that doesn't allow the foot to move too much inside it. High or flat arches, how you roll your foot while stepping and ankle stability during turns and stops will all affect muscle fatigue. Chiropractic treatment can help to even the force applied to each foot while walking. If the Chiro claims they have a product or service that can "cure" anything, including your back pain, tho, run away.
Nikes is WEDGED between there misole which is made of patent foam made for running shoes . Those are on your foot its not the same as on the shoe itself
Nike did this so professionallys can wear this without the product getting banned from use in professional games an get batter marketing/sales cause they can't say they cheating by any enhance unnatural advantage but ur soles are cool the snap back action is a basic but very very useful simple way of propulsion
@@zepperdepep no really, we play real fast double bass drums. My feetsetup is chuck taylors hitops that are tight, and a 800€ machine aluminum direct drive pedals. Then like some people put these rebound pads on the skin of the drum, i play naked remo ps3 BUT it has to be fresh and tight. So someone here, the sole guys, saying i could have conserved energy for the next stroke: this woul lead to a higher natural frequency of the swivel motion->faster speed with same muscle power input. Random still?
@@Sp_acecowboy have you studied even high school physics? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elastic_energy . So it’s not creating the energy, rather every downstroke(step) you preload a spring, that bounces ones foot up when downwards pressure is stopped. Double bass pedals use springs, so all you in actuality have to do is stepping on the pedal, then the skin and spring rebounds it. With those converse, if theyre brand new they help. And after some 3 months the sole starts seperating for the forces it has recieved…
