i do wonder... what would happen if.. zooble attempted to... be serious, make caine pay attention. aaaand maybe ask for a form they personality could ajust in a way they truely want... to be able to use their imagination to make it exactly was... them.
You know you said Cain forgets what zooble says which is technically zobles fault because she says forget it and Cain repeats it as if asking for conformation she says forget it agin
A real possible threat that Caine presents isn't when he has a mental break that crashes the game, but when he creates an Ai character that is stronger than him. In other words, and this is my personal theory, what will happen when a god thinks of someone or something that is stronger than him and creates it without leaving a way to undo him?
I love that they give Caine a little bit more depth with him having a mental breakdown at being told he's bad at the only thing he's supposed to do. For real, this series is so good at showing the differences between NPC and non-NPC (humans).
It really does show how that ai brain of his works, being wired to work a certain way, failing to understand some of the things Zooble tries to explain to him and instead just doing the best he can to help everyone in the only ways he knows how
To be fair, his adventures aren't bad. If the characters weren't trapped in the circus and could sign off like any other game, they'd probably enjoy them. The most fun game on Earth won't make your own living hell enjoyable
A thing someone pointed out about the Zooble therapy moment is that the creator pointed out Caine doesn't understand figures of speech and the sort so whenever Zooble keeps telling him to "forget about it" he does, making the experience all the more upsetting.
And probably the names of people they knew, if longer and queenie were married before they came into the game then they'd know each others names and wouldn't need new names
I like the idea the avatars symbolize the characters flaws Kinger and queener: the original creators of the world Zooble: someone who isn’t comfortable in their own skin Ragatha: someone who was always treated like the punching bag but always stayed chipper
I'm guessing Jax's episode is going to be centered around him being forced to be nice to people. It's implied that Jax's episode is going to be the one where he has to work as a fast food employee. It might be a story about how Jax gets bored easily and being nice to others is torture. Anyone that's worked in customer service knows the pain of having to bottle up your emotions and being forced to put on a fake smile, even if the people you're serving genuinely deserve a kick to the family jewels.
It would be a bit hard to imagine what the other characters are doing as Jax is working at the cash register, so maybe they're in some city adventure doing stuff while Jax is either forced to partake in or accidentally applies for a job in one of the buildings, this could add to Jax's character a bit because nobody is around for him to bully aside from NPCs which like you said he has to force himself to be nice to.
Well, the creators said that the players are trapped in this digital nightmare to be tormented by their own personal issues and traumas (and of all the players, Jax is the one who deserves it the most). It’s right in the synopsis: “A woman gets trapped in a crazy virtual world along with five other humans and are now subject to the whims of wacky AI and their own personal traumas.”
@@Webb_Studiosif that’s what is considered bad enough to be in a digital hell (I personally don’t find it this way, its far too joke-esque compared to what seems to be in store for the cast regarding their personal issues to be a cause lol) , wtf does Jax got going on if gooseworx themselves says that Jax deserves to be in the digital circus the most out of all of the human cast
Y’know when talking about being tortured, Pomni only says ‘he’. She never specified Caine. What if she’s talking about someone else? Someone on the outside..?
Theory: In a later episode, Jax causes Pomni to abstract, and then Cane tries to put her in the "Basement" but, Kinger stands up against Cane and somehow causes a chain of events that leads Pomni to "unabstract".
Would be really cope, but I think this is a bit to much of a happy ending. What I think will happen is Kinger, much to the horror of everyone (except Jax) abstracts/sacrifices. Kinger himself would be fine with that though, as he'd be reunited with his wife. It would be tragic but beautiful
@@pieterhofkens7259 honestly i think kingler has to survive because based on our knowledge he knows alot. maybe enough to fix everything. the one who i feel might abstract is gangle or ragatha. ragatha has been teased and we have gotten the closest to her. thinking about it, gangle feels more like a npc then the rest of the characters and caine has a hard time keeping track but he woudln't hesitate to delete someone if he found out. maybe there will be a series of events where we loose gangle if she is an npc and now with one last person to bully, jax causes ragatha to abstract.
Pretty sure episode 1 was Pomni's personal hell, since the majority of the plot was revolved around her and her introduction to the circus. Gooseworx posted a recent twitter post talking about each character spotlight in each episode and Jax was all the way in episode 6. So im guessing there will be a level that can link back to him and his trauma like with Kinger.
Regarding Poni, in episode 2 King mentioned that he recalls Regatha's 'first time' when sharing concerns about Poni. Everyone gets used to it. It was also explained that new players gets a 'new body'. I would keep in mind that Caine is an AI...AI is supposed to learn, he is learning, every adventure is based on what he learned/witnessed.
Caine is inspired by AM the Allied Mastercomputer from I have no mouth and I must scream So this is basically IHNMAIMS but more satire and character development
Well also Caine isn't evil Am hates people and actively does everything to torment them to the point the humans in I have no mouth and I must scream lose track of time while being tormented. Caine seems way more like a misguided AI that doesn't have the data set to deal with traumatized adult humans.
@@RinLockhart I can see where people are coming from with that comparison. Both AM and Caine are highly advanced AI capable of operating independently. Both of our cast are trapped in their respective AI's world and are at their mercy. The real big difference is in the intent of the AI. Am is actively antagonistic towards his prisoners. Caine is only trying to do what he was made to do and it's not like Caine is actively keeping any of them there(unless he is).
One of the things I really like about the digital circus is the fact that the AI vs human horror adds to it. They are stuck in a digital setting so what measure is a human? For us, it's obvious, we know what are human behaviors and actions. For an AI like Caine it's not. But Caine is trying to do his primary function, entertain humans with his games. Gummigoo didn't really self actualize, he had enough character to be close enough. I feel like Caine is in the same problematic AI level. This is actually my favorite level of AI to examine... Because to what degree is it their fault? In the end does it matter? It's such a dangerous sort of level to deal with because Caine is just doing *exactly* what people wanted him to do. What they programmed him to do. The problem is something went wrong and they didn't tell him exactly how to do it right. And he's not actualized enough to be able to be told the truth. Because he wasn't given enough processing and capability to. That is something you'd need to get *outside* of the program to fix after figuring out the issue inside the problem. I suspect that was what happened with Kinger and Queenie.
If the digital circus was designed for children, why are older people and adults getting stuck in it? This supports the theory that these were the people making the game and got trapped by their own AI
I don't think Caine can effect anything in the real world so maybe the characters outside of the game put on the headsets out of sheer curiosity when looking through a storage thing or something.
Theory: Caine, as based on Cain from the Bible is the root of envy. Caine created envied the One True God's work and created the circus to cope against God's creation by luring players to their eternal torment. When Furst Lee hosted Film Theory after MattPat's departure, he disproved MattPat's theory of Caine being God by concluding that If Caine was the God of this digital world, he'd be omnipresent and omniscient that Pomni fell to the Noclip abyss in Episode 2 and intervene there.
11:07 no, they had their memories! Queen was collecting bugs - ok she could done in circus somehow, But who could Kinger do computer science, 7 years of them... inside the game? Imposible, so he remebers at least some of his life. That is somehow worst. 14:23 oh, you konw that alredy... oh well... (Btw realy? Again? Seven years? Nevermind)
I think they mostly don’t remember their self identity and the identity of others, as it wouldn’t really make sense for everyone to have a randomly assigned personality and memories when entering the digital circus Edit: fixing grammar mistakes
I have to say zooble is basically just trans allegory, being stuck in a body you don't like and being under the power of someone who might want to help but ultimately just makes you feel trapped and isolated, and especially having to end up working as their therapist just to get an inch of understanding. obviously this relates to gooseworx's own identity, and honestly I feel like zooble's personal hell cannot be resolved until the digital circus itself is finally shut down and everyone (who survives) escapes.
Now this makes me wonder if being abstracted means you still have a present mind or not? Like imagine still having a conscious sane mind in a body you can’t control, only to be put in darkness and have no idea what’s going on being scared and confused!
I feel that there's going to be an episode where we have a moment with all the characters sit down and talk about who they were outside of the circus, minus Jax (either because he doesn't want to or plot reasons) and they start piecing things together on how they might be able to escape!
Theory: Cain really likes torturing his players, because that comment about his wife was clearly a personalized attack. Or two: Cain partially uses the code of the abstracted characters to create the AI of the NPCs, which would explain how that NPC could have known about Kinger's wife before Kinger even brought it up.
I think 2. Gumigoo was awfully real for a made up NPC, so it’s possible Caine is using abstracted players in his games to make them more fun. And, the less enjoyable and under appreciated his games are, the more he’ll pull out of the abstracted players in his AI effort to achieve his only purpose. Good theory.
Hasnt the creator stated that the residents in the circus do have all their memories from real life, they just cant remember their names? They can remember everything else, heck even some of pomni's dialogue in THIS episode hints towards her knowing more then shes lead on (some of what shes saying when shes freaking out around kinger seems like its supposed to make us think shes referring to caine, when in actuality shes talking about whoever put her in this game to begin with, most likely her boss. The biggest hint towards this occurs when she says "he just wants me to suffer" and it flashes to the company logo from the office area, if she meant caine i feel like she would've said 'Caine' or it wouldve shown him, but instead it showed us that logo)
I like the theory that all of them accidentally killed someone to end up in the digital circus and each adventure is a reminder of what they did, only that Caine knows how they died/how the killed but doesn't remember the memory of the person it belongs to because he's constantly told to forget In the most recent episode, the adventure was made for Zooble, like Caine said but all the qualities of the episode were centered around Kinger and the days pervious events He'd obviously assumed that the more "mature" death went to the more mature character because he doesn't know or under any better In the episode it's implied that Kinger killed his real world wife with a shot because of multiple meltdowns and paranoia due to overworking himself to the point of hallucinating and losing connection with people, but his wife doesn't blame him at all Its unknown if Queenie was his real world wife (and what had to do to get know thier) but with the constant mention of "family" in the episode, Kinger probably hallucinated his wife as a monster after killing his family, leading to him killing her over lack of communication, break downs and paranoia over the unknown Only for them to both end up in TADC and for Queenie to go insane and abstract first, just like she'd been the first person out of the pair to go insane first, and instead of being violent this time they learn to communicate and say thier goodbyes as they were calmed by the darkness they'd already created With this theory in mind, it's told that all members BUT Jax unintentionally killed someone but intentionally got someone killed and that's why he deserves to be their more and why he lacks sympathy. I've seen some theories about Pomni leaving someone to die in a tough situation, because in the all the episodes she was quick to escape herself first, and was totally willing to leave the other behind. Her leaving someone behind getting them killed. Ragetha accidentally causing the death of someone close to her because she was either too pushy or not close enough, making her feel guilty for not being thier and helping people, causing her to give people like Jax chances time and time again and even physically restraining them if they hurt themselves or others, to avoid it happening again Gangle anxiety/anxious nature lead to them putting on a metaphorically mask and concealing their emotions and acting as if things were better, leading to accidentally that theatrical theme death for that person because Gangle was too nervous to stick up for themselves, leaving them a weak, 2 faced liar/some concealing their emotions as they're neatly put together, made from flashy materials as the mask would suggest And Zooble actually killed themselves out of distain for who they truly were. They unintentionally cause their own death because they hated themselves so much that they failed to see what was around them and the support that had leading to thier death. Or they unintentionally had someone they know commit suicide leading to them beating themselves up about it, trying to be better and perfect, trying to be the person they lost And Jax killing someone intentionally to defend a maternal figure in his life because the only times he ever drops the act is when he's being told off or is vulnerable or getting unexpected compliments. He however doesn't feel any remorse for the people he killed/person he killed as he viewed it as justified, leading to him being less traumatised than the other I like this theory because it links to the Caine and Able theories quite well and because it would make sense since they refer to the circus as a literal hell the majority of the time
ok idea jax will be the first one to abstract imagin this every adventure the gang is a part of up to this point was dissapointing for jax not enough chaos not enougth violence not enough torture for others so next episode (witch will be gangle focused) would start by him tormenting her and pomni trying to help her out but jax overpowering both of themn gets his way one of the last moments caine decides to make an edventure for gangle to cheer her up gives her a new mask and puts them in an anime world to be exact in a tornoument arc jax and ragatha as the villains (just to see how ragatha sucks at being evil and legit couldnt show any malicous intent no matter what) and pomni,gangle and kinger as the good guys and lets say that zooble joined in just to see how jax gets beaten up but doesnt partake a role in the tournement so both get anime characters to be their trainers And both sides get ganlges crushed (aka husbandos and waifus) to train them jax does nothing but make sure he can harm the others as hard as he can while pomni and gangle get cute sister moments so the tournement begins but jax instead of winning and killing everyone gets beaten easlly by others and resorts to cheating while we get more cute gangle and pomni sis moments like them having fun with some cute pets , gangle gushing over her crushes as pomni listens to gangles rants about their lore so the final round jax tries to hurt gangle as much as he can and break her mask but he just cant and he loses while gangle and pomni didnt even figth they were just goofing around so back to the circus and jax gets super mad at gangle and has a big burst of rage and he tries to break gangles mask again but pomni and gangle accually sucsessfully stop him she cant protevt herself from him on her own but with pomni and or someone else its accually easy and we get another cute moment with gangle and pomni as we see jax go into his room and destroy it jax is slowlly loosing his freedo mto harm others he is furious that he cant harm them .he is mad that they can defent themselfs he would scream "I WISH THAT I COULD JUST KILL THOSE $(&%@#)$*( ... hope no one heard it" HOW WOULD THAT BE FOR A PLOT
Caine Suffering: Lack of knowing Bubble Suffering: Lack of Suffering Jax Suffering: Suffering put on other Gangle Suffering: Suffering caused by others Pomni Suffering: Uncontrolled Suffering Kinger Suffering: Unforgettable Suffering Zooble Suffering: Suffering because of themselves Ragatha Suffering: Ignoring suffering All of the characters of The Amazing Digital Circus represent a different type of suffering
I Think Gooseworx said on Tumblr that in Episode 5 Jax will do something unforgivable. Maybe he WILL caused someone to abstract but not any of our main characters. Maybe someone new will come along and within that same episode they’ll abstract! Or maybe in the Episode it will be revealed that he’s a big part the reason Kaufmo abstracted?! Also Jax needs to seriously realize that if he causes everyone to abstract, he’ll be alone with nothing to do and eventually go insane and abstract himself. And I think that’s worst than being abstract by someone else!
Don’t we already know the cause of Kaufmo’s extraction? Isnt it that he began to get obsessed with the idea of escaping & the stress, paranoia, and newfound knowledge that there isn’t an exit is what lead to him abstracting?
@@parasitophobia I’mm sorry but when in the show did it say that? (I get that even in the show if It didn’t say that it was heavily implied) if you’re talking about that fan made animation then I guess it’s plausible because that sounds exactly what you’re describing lol
20:40 So like a Roko's Basilisk [I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream] situation? Where each of the characters may have had some connection to Caine's creation? That sounds hella cool
Yeah this show is so dark. I always forget about how dark it is. I mean, "I have no mouth and I must scream" is super dark and effed up and this seems to take inspiration. Which definitely leads me to believe it should go darker and more depressing. Which would be sad too cause I feel so bad for the characters. But this old, colorful style just throws me off cause it makes me so nostalgic for old internet games.
My theory is that Kinger was looking for a way to escape the circus by tracking down all the computer bugs, but unfortunately, he lost track of keeping contact with Queenie. When she questioned him and asked him to stop, the kinger must have blown up on her, saying something opposite to the advice he gave pomni. This causes queenie to abstract. If Theodores story is based of Kinger this may be the case.
I have an interesting persona theory/headcanon. My theory is, that once someone goes absolutely insane, there's something hardcoded in Caine that requires him to let you go. However, he doesn't want people finding out about this as they would intentionally go insane to leave, so he creates abstractions in place of the characters who left to fearmonger the cast into thinking they'll become that if they go insane so they don't think about leaving.
My thought: Cain is an AI. He IS the Digital Circus and the toothy ringmaster is his avatar. He is an AI that is programmed to create adventures, but something happened that caused him to become isolated. Maybe the company that created him got shut down, maybe he's a program on the internet that went rogue, or something. When someone enters the Digital Circus their minds are literally ripped from their bodies and given avatars of their own. Perhaps there's some aspect of their personality that shapes them, perhaps its random, but now they exist as living data. When they experience extremes of stress or panic they become corrupted, they lose their physical form and become abstracted. At this point the AI (Cain) will seal them away in a partitioned drive in 'the cellar' (data goes in, doesn't come out.) My question is this: What would happen if Cain himself became corrupted? If he's no longer got any outside control that means he's not getting updated or debugged anymore. Its only a matter of time before Cain himself will abstract... and if he does, what happens to the Digital Circus and everyone within it?
4:21 I know that young kids are enjoying this show, and adults are enjoying the show. I’m enjoying this show. It really has a very broad appeal, and speaks to something deeper too about the human condition.
Fan theory. Kinger is the real creator/ developer of the digital circus while Cain was the Ai that hijack the program and took over the entire game. Kinger and his wife enter the game to find away to fix Cain but Cain eventually made it so they are trapped Plus with the avatar of Kinger and Queenie both being chess pieces ( in away have more authority over other characters) Kinger and Queen being trapped in the game kept getting put though all of Caine’s adventures have caused fights among the 2. Harsh words were said and eventually Queen became abstracted. So Kinger is all alone… until to his horror when the cast shows up some one must of released the unfinished game and now he can’t warn no one and now has to live with the guilt that he made this mess and he has no way out to warn any one who enters the game.
When you think about it Jax, Ragatha, Gangle, Zooble, and Pomni all don’t remember what happened before they enter the circus like their names, but not only does Kinger know that he has a wife and what his wife studied he also remembers that he made this game and it took him seven years, so that begs the question of why does Kinger have such a bad memory (and intelligence) in the circus, but as soon as he gets put in the dark he’s the only rational one there.
It's really interesting that Kinger remembered and knew that his wife liked insects but also 7 YEARS OF COMPUTERS TRAINING! Dose Kinger remembered more of his past than others? Dose he know how to get out he just needs to remember?
Here is a theory: Jax knows how to exit the digital circus, and is working on it alone because the way to do it is through abstraction. He is pushing everyone away so they can abstract and be forced out of the game that they are trapped in.
Can somebody please tell me where the info about them not remembering who they were came from? I swear Caine said that you forget your name, and Kinger saying “man, 7 years of computer science for this huh” proves otherwise to me
To me, Jax seems more like a deeply terrified person who is using the mask of being a cruel prankster and a bully to keep people at arms' length. He can't control much of anything in the circus; the adventures, his appearance, when the people around him eventually abstract - but he can control himself. If he doesn't care about anything, nothing can get to him. He may have lost all of the people who he considered friends long ago or perhaps saw someone abstract very shortly into his stay at the circus like Pomni did and decided it was better not to take that chance. Perhaps he's protecting himself from abstracting in this way, or maybe he's only sparing his own feelings. Either way, Jax is treating everything and everyone carelessly because if he cares, even a little, it will only come back to hurt him, and he's not a strong enough person to handle that. Honestly, I think he'll be the next to abstract, simply because you cannot survive the circus on your own and Jax has done everything in his power to isolate himself. Either that, or he'll come very, very close and realize that what he's been doing isn't working. However it happens I can't wait to see him break!
i like the spooky feel and the visuals a lot. the background music really adds to everything. and the filter over the video also makes this really appealing to watch. this was an awesome video!! :D love the psychological horror feel
Hello meep *I feel like in a future episode Jax will cause Gangle to abstract, that why they don't have much character (so people don't get too connected), and Jax seems to mostly target her. I feel like if she does abstract, thanks to him, Jax would care since I don't think he means to cause for real harm just annoy the people around them but he does seem to still care about them a bit as friends, he's like that toxic friend who wants to get close to people but would rather frick with them, because in the marketing for merch he expresses how he wants to tell them his secrets and stuff before getting turned into merch, like he wants to connect to them but something is holding him back*
Just a thought about a line from this episode kinger made. He made a comment about several years of computer tech and it kinda has me thinking about who made the digital circus and caine.
In Episode 2 the writers hinted at Kinger’s memories being better in the dark with him wearing the bucket on his head, and remembering when Ragitha first showed up. Or at episode 2’s end where the whole time he spoke about Koffmo during his funeral, his eyes were closed, as if he was trying to block out the light.
I have a theory: since we all collectively theorize that Jax may be an npc, someone must’ve brought Jax in. That person could’ve been Kaufmo, since at his funeral he tries not to care but we can see that he does care and is upset at his abstraction (at least a little.) I guess maybe his npc program either programmed him to become that way, or maybe after finding out he’s an npc or being trapped in the circus for too long (since he’s an npc not a human) he malfunctioned or smth to become the Jax he is right now, and is abusing other players for his amusement because as said in the video it’s kind of like a coping mechanism
To be honest, after this episode, I'm very sure that Zooble suffers from genderdisphoria or body dismorphia. It would be an amazing story arc if we see Zooble realize they are trans or see her process if dealing with body dismorphia and getting better slowly. Eather way it's amazing representation!
Interesting how Zooble felt that way especially considering how they can’t change their forms when they arrive in the circus (we all saw Pomni try to pull of her clothes and eyes when she first arrived) Maybe Zooble is - pls don’t hate me when I say this and also pls correct me if I say anything incorrect - someone who was in the closet about possibly being trans and was never able to open up about it to someone before coming here to the circus. Maybe putting on the headset was a way to try to simulate or practice opening up to let’s say their parents but then they got trapped here?!
I'm curious about Gangle, as we don't know much about her character yet. As you mention, her personal torture might be coexisting with Jax all the time bullying her. I feel like we're going to get some episode addressing that dynamic, maybe Jax crosses the limits and Gangle abstracts, causing a paradigm shift in the group dynamic. Nice video, thanks!
When people ask themselves what they want to do, who they want to be, often they name celebrities. When I pose myself that same question, my mind goes to Kinger
You used the Murder Drones finale teaser for your intro?... Why must you hurt me in this way? Also, Gooseworx confirmed that the human characters remember their past lives, just not their names.
I could imagine either Kinger or his wife or someone else had some sort of degenerative disease (ALS, dementia/alzhrimers, MS, etc) and the circus was originally viewed as a place to be intact and given ability again.
Idk about this. I know it's probably meant to be metaphorical, it would provide a lot more complexity and moral ambiguity about these characters. If I can still like Spinel after she tried to kill Steven and poison the planet out of anger and pain at Pink Diamond abandoning her, then maybe I could possibly still enjoy the characters in a morally ambiguous way if they unintentionally/indirectly caused something bad to happen to someone.
or perhaps, as Kinger's story is a parallel version of the story of Martha Mildenhall's husband, it is likely that Kinger had tried to protect his wife from something within the circus, but his obsession with protecting her ended up making him a danger to his own wife, thus causing her to be distracted.
Caine glitching the world around him made me think that what if destroying the program by pushing caine to his limit (essentially abstracting him) would free all inhabitants
i think cain is an AI designed to be the one keeping them entertained but is forced to take care of them and Jax is an AI designed to keep them from entropy from too much happiness cause there is an actual thing where you can cause the part of your brain that creates the chemical making you feel pleasure atrophy from over use
Pretty sure the creator has confirmed Caine isn't malicious he's just a quirky AI trying to do his job. Honestly he was made to make simple games for kids likely his hyper active silly personality is all to keep kids entertained. Now he is trying to do his job of making games but for adults and having to try to deal with more complex emotions than could ever have been in his parameters. I ront think Caine means to make hell or was trying to threaten zooble he just is not equipped for this and ran into a logic loop.
Jax reminds me of my childhood bully. Eventually he pushed me too far and ended up on the receiving end. That’s how you ultimately beat a sadist like Jax. They love inflicting pain on others but hate receiving the same treatment.
Kinger calls the eyes in the maw of the angel beautiful, as if speaking to someone he loves. This may be a mere reminder, but I wonder if the props are abstracted people?
bro digital circus just explained how the internet is: It is shown as fun while also secretly being dark once you enter you cant escape bugs the internet knows your every move but doesn't care about your feelings
in my opinion the only time i laughed while watching this latest episode of TADC was when pomni said to the corpse "please don't come alive..." the corpse said "ok i won't" idk but that was really funny
and my theory is: TADC is like helluva boss and hazbin hotel, but colorful and used for entertainment, merch, etc. and Gooseworx will have a lecture from me
Yeh pomni say he want her to suufer it mean it could ceo or developer or any person who hate or want her suffer pomni aware of that but that person succed to sent her in game(digital hell) to suffer .
"Abandon all hope, ye who enter here." The encapsulation of what it means to be trapped within an endless void of childlike wonder and joy- the world contrasting the horror and banality felt by every person within the digital hellscape. The bell tolls, but none hear; a creator's terrific ways of eliciting joy, yet creating terrible adventures reminding those trapped within the world of those they lost. It is a hellish torture to know that someday you will lose who you are, and to know that everyone you know and love will become invalid monstrosities of corrupted code and becoming mindless.
So the creator has trapped himself and the others with a hell with no exit, no escape from the suffering endured? How befitting that a character named "Caine", a name soaked in the blood of kin, shall entrap himself and his "friends" within a digital hellscape with no escape from the unending misery wrought by his very actions. Also, I have the feeling that Gangle or Kinger will probably abstract due to Jax's fuckery with them. A string can only be pulled so far before snapping, you know.