The 3-piece punch of When Acting as a Particle, Nong Eye Gong, and When Acting as a Wave is one of the most surreal experiences I’ve had with music. It’s so hard to describe the way Particle evolves from the minimalist style to the more batshit crazy riff-heavy sounds of Wave. It’s like Nong Eye Gong is the lit match that is thrown onto Particle that makes Wave sound as it does. Insane musicianship
I really like that whole middle section of the record including sick on a Sunday it's one thing that helps make this my fav dillinger record, nice little pacing nuances
Actually yes, a lot of tDEP songs are love/breakup songs :) But I love it when my metal lyrics are about non-metal stuff... lyrics about dead babies and satan get boring pretty quickly
This is the album with the best flow in DEP’s discography. All of the transitions are so smooth! These songs just sound right together! And I’m sure Gil Sharone’s presence behind the kit contributed to that.
Gil didn't even join the band by the time this was recorded. Ben programmed all the drums using Drumkit From Hell, same program Thomas Hakke used on Catch 33.
@@TheMetalAllfather Wikipedia says Gil Sharone played drums on the album. Maybe it's wrong but where did you get that from about the drums being programmed?
@@aliquidcow Justin is half-right, I think. Ben said in an interview he composed the drum parts for this album on Drumkit From Hell. What he’s missing is that Gil then recorded those parts for the album, during which he probably put his own spin on certain songs.
@@TheMetalAllfather wrong bro Gil spoke for a Modern Drummer interview (April 2008). and clarifies that he recorded when everything was already written
@@aliquidcow Ben programmed it to expedite the process with Chris. After Gil was already in the band, he spoke for an interview with Modern Drummer (April 2008). he who recorded when everything was already written
Ire Works is full of ideas and in my opinion much more original than Miss Machine. Miss Machine is the first step, Ire Works its evolution. The last five tracks are simply sublime: a mix of blasting rage, melody and atmosphere.
+Kyle Benson completely agree. Miss Machine is terrible but it isn't their best at all. Even the more calm One of Is the Killer is better than Miss Machine imo. It's just more completely and really well prepared.
Carlo Cantisani I just can't get into the production on anything miss machine and earlier. I think Dillinger benefits from a clear, concise sound. The muddier the production gets, the less enjoyable the music is for me. That's what turns me off to other noisy bands - I can't even tell if their songs are well written, because I can't hear anything. That being said, I think ire works is their best album for sure.
IMHO Miss Machine is THE definitive DEP album. Ire Works is a solid 2nd. Calculating Infinity I never really got into....it certainly did it's job announcing DEP as a bold new presence but I think their songwriting improved a lot afterwards.
shredder213 Caculating Infinity was a fucking game changer in music. The Patton e.p was astounding....I remember being pissed off with the more melodic chorus parts in Miss Machine. I wasn't really a fan of the singer.. but I stuck with them and now think he'amazing. I think him taking a shit on the stage at the Reading Festival changed my mind about him...! I prefer him live than on record I think. As a band, they'll be missed. Absolute carnage as a live band too. Astounding band.
I managed to find out about this band through a VH1 Metal Awards show when they were awarded "Best Alternative Metal Band", or something like that. After checking out a couple of their songs online, I managed to find this album in a used CD store shortly afterwards. It has been in heavy rotation on my playlists for the past decade, and I can't help but listen through the rest of the album whenever a song comes on. This is easily one of my favorite albums ever.
I do not understand a word!🙂 ... the guitars and the drum almost give me cramps and the music disturbs me more than I can comprehend what is being played!✌🏾 But respect! This is sincerely art with full commitment!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 It pretty much scares me how much I like this .... 😳 Gigantic!👍🏾💪🏾
This was the peak of the band, their creativity and adventurousness is off the charts while still retaining all the energy of their early work. After this they went off the boil and never really recovered in my opinion. I saw them play live on the tour for Ire Works and 10 years later it is still the best gig I've ever been to.
Why must there be comparisons of one over the other? Ire Works is amazing, as are Option Paralysis, OoUItK, Miss Machine, and Dissociation - although it admittedly gets me teary eyed by the end. Ire Works is top for me, but everything from the Greg era is gold.
Well, if we're truly to say, one of their albums is "mediocre", that goes for the debut, everything they've done with Greg on board, is an evolution of the previous record, respectively. So, I think Dissociation is their best, even though all the cds are masterpieces, practically! This is merely a personnal opinion, but I guess that it expresses the majority of the listeners anyway. :p
its hella catchy but still has that dillinger spin. like unretrofied. its crazy how these guys can write a hit without compromising their sound and style
What a stroke of luck that they managed to find not 1 but 3 different drummers that could match the insane energy of the group (Chris Pennie, Gil Sharone & Billy Rymer)
Ok, I have to correct myself! Good music has good lyrics ... Thanks to the programs where you can read the lyrics, I now know why I like so much this top level art from the selection, the forecourt of hell! Pure magic!✌🏾👍🏾🖖🏾
As the sun begins to set I cannot find my way back Walking with my eyes on fire I never found the payback We'll never feel like anything is wrong But the tragedy is not just our own sad song Walls we have built and bridges we have burned Deeper the hole the farther we feel from harm
That's always bugged me. I had the CD originally back in the day and thought I got the "Walmart" version or something. Then later listened to it on vinyl then streaming...I don't know why that choice was made but it sticks out like a sore thumb.
supposedly the original vocalist is featured on Fix Your Face but i cant really hear him unless its him and greg screaming at the same time. Anyone know what part he comes in at?
Is this a re-release or something? I've been jamming this album since High School which was over 6 years ago, yet the upload date is from 4 months ago.
I had gotten frozen by the way you walked By the love that you gave, by that look on your face It's a cover up I know everything I had gotten frozen by the way you walked By the love that you gave, by that look on your face It's a cover up I know everything I know everything
I made a big mistake with you tonight The way our insides burned like moths flying to light As the sun begins to set I cannot find my way back Walking with my eyes on fire I never found the payback We'll never feel like anything is wrong But the tragedy is not just our own sad song I, I know the games we play Give us a way A way for us to see if we still feel alive
You're made for four-letter fame Regret is part of your name It's something you couldn't tell It's what you wanted to feel It's what you're dying to feel
I love TDEP but... I don't know, this record never convinced me at all. The overall quality of the musicians has risen, without any doubt, but, all in all, seems that something was lost in some of the songs here, something that is no more Dillingerous, compared to Miss Machine; I take this last one record because in Ire Works they seemed to develop some of Miss Machine ideas, imo: just to make an example, FIx your Face, Black Bubblegum, Milk Lizard for me are twin songs of Panasonic Youth, Unretrofied and Setting Fire to Sleeping Giant but in a "bad" way. Still there are good and original songs just like Lurch, Party Smashers and Horse Hunter, just like ol' TDEP. If I have to put some votes to this and the records before: The Mullet Burden 7/10, Calculating Infinity 8.5/10, Irony is a Dead Scene 8.5/10, Miss Machine 7+/10 and Ire Works 6+/10. Don't get me wrong, is just my personal opinion.
I was a freshman in high school when this album came out. At the time, I only liked Milk Lizard and Black Bubblegum. In retrospect, those are great accessible tracks for getting into the band from outside the realm of mathcore.
@@WarHero56 I recame deeply into TDEP in 2016 circa when I discovered Calculating Infinity (I knew them since I was 16 beacuse of PS game Raw vs. Smackdown 2006 and everytime I was looking forward Unretrofied started to play), then I discovered Irony, Miss Machine and the rest of the records. Honestly, I've never fell in love with "the rest of the records" for the same reasons I wrote down in the first comment, in particular One of Us is The Killer; I think in Dissociation they have regained a little bit their original savage and especially weird nature.
