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The Dirichlet Integral is destroyed by Feynman's Trick 

Dr. Trefor Bazett
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The Dirichlet integral (integral from 0 to infinity of the sin(x)/x also know as the sinc function), is typically not taught in first year calculus courses. But the trick to solve it is actually pretty easy! In this video I show how we can use Feynman's Trick to make it a big messier by including a new exponential factor, but by differentiating under the integral sign the messy x in the denominator gets cleaned right up.
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@LaughingManRa
@LaughingManRa Год назад
Feynman DESTROYS Dirichlet Integral with FACTS and LOGIC
@cristianv2850
@cristianv2850 Год назад
😢
@Juan_Carl0s
@Juan_Carl0s Год назад
*Leibniz
@cyrillechevallier7835
@cyrillechevallier7835 Год назад
Yeah but it relies on the fact that deriving an integral (with respect to a parameter) is the same as integrating the partial derivative :) which is a god level tool (and it’s hard to prove)
@orenawaerenyeager
@orenawaerenyeager Год назад
@@Juan_Carl0s plug the upper limit multiplied by differential of upper limit minus plug the lower limit multiplied by differential if lower limit
@kylethompson1379
@kylethompson1379 Год назад
@@Juan_Carl0s Thank you. This "Feynman technique" thing is obnoxious. Feynman was great enough on his own merits, he doesn't need any help.
@kdmdlo
@kdmdlo Год назад
Trefor: this trick requires that the order of differentiation and integration can be interchanged because your F'(s) is actually d/ds [ int_0^infty e^(-sx) sin(x)/x dx ] . You nonchalantly swapped the order of these two operations. This is thoroughly valid provided the integrand satisfies certain integrability conditions etc. Perhaps it would be worth noting this (and going over these conditions), so if people are looking to use Feynman's trick, they will be on the look out for potential tripping points.
@Sugarman96
@Sugarman96 Год назад
Since you briefly mentioned the Laplace transform, I feel like it'd be a waste not to mention the super important Fourier transform in this context, because the Fourier transform lets you solve the Dirichlet integral almost immediately. It turns out, the Fourier transform of a window function of from -1 to 1 is sin(w)/w, so using the inverse fourier transform, you get the value of the Dirichlet integral.
@donaldmcronald2331
@donaldmcronald2331 Год назад
I learnt both the fourier transform and reverse transform and immediately knew sine(x)/x. I wasn't aware of the link between them lol. I'd add that if you view sine(x)/x as a spectrum, its energy across actual time is indeed related to the integral of sine(x)/x from 0 to infinity.
@MrPoornakumar
@MrPoornakumar Год назад
@@donaldmcronald2331 Your second sentence restates "Parseval" equation. It physically means, no matter in what domain (frequency or time) you integrate, the energy is same.
@Djenzh
@Djenzh Год назад
Beautiful! Funny that the Laplace transform shows up. I only knew how to do this integral by changing sin(x)/x into sin(xt)/x and then taking the Laplace transform of the entire thing, but your solution seems much easier :)
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Год назад
I suppose this method is mostly equivalent. I'd actually suggest your is more true to the spirit of Feynman's trick and a bit more generalizable, but perhaps the way I showed slightly more efficient for 1st year calc students
@leif1075
@leif1075 10 месяцев назад
@@DrTrefor But why and how did Feynman or whoever else come up with this? I could never admit I couldn't or Im not a math whiz who would come up with this or something similar--why not just have e^x or e^sx where s is just a constant and make it a function of x still--was this tried--Thanks for sharing and hope to hear from you.
@NumbToons
@NumbToons Год назад
I just (today) learnt this integral in Fourier Transform, and here you come up with a video to make it permanent my memory.
@ketankyadar5228
@ketankyadar5228 Год назад
I am really happy to see Differentiation Under Integral sign rule here to calculate integration of Sinx/x. Actually today in the class i taught this rule and after that i saw your video. I amazed that how you start with combining exponential term in the integral, In real life there are so many situations where you can use this cause there exist always parameter with your function.
@emanuellandeholm5657
@emanuellandeholm5657 Год назад
I always love to watch different people's take on the Dirichlet integral. It's second only to the Gaussian integral for me. :) The interesting thing about the Dirichlet integral is that it's not Lebesgue-integrable. Put some of that stuff in your pipe and smoke it! Dr Bazett's take is basically a Laplace transform, and I think it's cute!
@purplenanite
@purplenanite Год назад
That's a neat trick! i came across this integral yesterday, interestingly enough - although now I know how to do it faster!
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Год назад
Isn't it cool!?
@leif1075
@leif1075 10 месяцев назад
@@DrTrefor I don't see why you take the limit at 5:52 instead of say plugging in the value of zero for s to get C? Isn't that more logical and intuitive?
@leif1075
@leif1075 10 месяцев назад
@@DrTrefor and I don't see why anyone would take the limit as S goes to infinity--isn't there some other way to get C--if you set s to zero you get F(0)=C
@moritzberner8402
@moritzberner8402 Год назад
I directly tried to solve the integral of cos(x)/x with the same method and found out that this one diverges. Great video!
@smiley_1000
@smiley_1000 Год назад
The reason is the behavior as x tends to 0, where the function behaves approximately like 1/x. Perhaps you should consider the integral from 1 to infinity in order to get a more interesting result.
@speedbird7587
@speedbird7587 11 месяцев назад
Hello Professor, Thanks for all your brilliant videos, It was a really nice and technical( a bit similar to laplace technique) although I couldn't find a proof or nonexample for this technique from the internet, I am very curious to know that could we use this technique by any function other than exponential terms, or is it because of the uniform continuity of the laplace transform that we can use this trick? since the problem can also be thought as a differential equation/ a dynamical system biforcating on the parameter s . I really would like to know more about it. Thank you. Br,
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 Год назад
Fun fact: the integral of sin(x)^2/x^2 from 0 to infinity is also pi/2
@Ninja20704
@Ninja20704 Год назад
But go to the third power and then it breaks down. That integral will be 3*pi/8
@NumbToons
@NumbToons Год назад
wow
@OmegaQuark
@OmegaQuark Год назад
​@@Ninja20704 Is there a generalized closed formula for the n-th power of sin(x)/x? Like with the Dirichlet series, or the Zeta function for the even positive integers
@violintegral
@violintegral Год назад
@@OmegaQuarkyes, but it's a bit complicated
@Ninja20704
@Ninja20704 Год назад
@@OmegaQuark for the zeta function at even positive integers, its been proven that zeta(2n) will always be some rational multiple of pi^2n. Figuring out that rational multiple is pretty complicated but doable.
@ShanBojack
@ShanBojack Год назад
You remind me of my tuition teacher who is also a big mathemagician and you both are my ideals 🙌
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Год назад
So kind!
@flamitique7819
@flamitique7819 Год назад
Great video ! I just wanted to point out that even though the result is correct, the reasoning here wasn't completely true, or was at least incomplete : by this reasoning, which uses the dominated convergence theorem and it's equivalents to derivate under the integral, you can't directly prove this formula for all s greater or equal to zero, but the formula is only true for s stricly bigger than zero, meaning you can't directly plug in 0 at the end (this is because you can only dominate the first function you want to derive under the integral for all s>0). But the formula still holds for all s>0. So the correct way to prove it is to show that the limit as s goes to zero of F(s) is indeed the integral of sin(x)/x from 0 to infinity, and you can use the fact that the right side of the equation is continuous at zero to give the final result. However, showing that you can interchange the limit and the integral as s goes to zero is not that trivial, since you can't dominate the function properly. To do that, you first need to integrate by parts and only after that you can dominate the function properly and do an interchange of limits and integral that is valid, and get the final result.
@aua6330
@aua6330 Год назад
For the continuity at 0, you can also show that if you take the sequence of functions F_n(s) = integral from 0 to n of (...), the sequence converges uniformly on [0, infty(, and each F_n is continuous.
@iamreallybadatphysicsbutda8198
Thank you so much Dr. Trefor
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Год назад
You're most welcome!
@pygmalionsrobot1896
@pygmalionsrobot1896 Год назад
Brilliant !! Thanks for making this video :D !!!
@scollyer.tuition
@scollyer.tuition Год назад
The terminology related to this method is itself somewhat interesting - when I first came across it (about 40 years ago), I don't think it was given any specific name (except differentiating under the integral sign), then the name "Leibniz rule" seemed to become more popular, and in the last 5 years or so, the "Feynman method" began to reign supreme - a tribute to continuing popularity of Mr Feynman, I guess. And it's worth pointing out that there are conditions required for the method to work: continuity of f(x,s) in both x and s and (partial) df/ds over the region of integration, IIRC. (corrections gratefully accepted if I misremember). Also, there's a generalisation of the method that takes account of variable limits depending on s.
@frenchimp
@frenchimp Год назад
I guess Feynman's contribution to the Leibniz method was "to hell with boring mathematical justifications".
@radekvecerka1115
@radekvecerka1115 7 месяцев назад
there are 4 conditions 1)continuity (or more generaly the function has to messurable) 2)continuos partial derivatives 3)very important is you have to find a mayorant to derivatice of the intagrated function with respect to the parameter, which must have finite value when integrated 4)you have to find a least 1 parameter for which you can calculate the integral Overall the most important part about this ''trick'' is figuring out whether you can even use it!
@fatemekashkouie3662
@fatemekashkouie3662 Год назад
Hello Dr.Trefor Bazzet, I wanted to take a moment to thank you for all the beautiful content you're creating. They're awesome. By the way, I'm supposed to do one of my class projects using maple. But I haven't gotten used to it. Do you suggest any particular tutorial teaching how to use maple?
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Год назад
Thank you! Sorry I don’t have any particularly great resources at my fingertips, mostly because it can do so much it really depends what you need to use it for!
@fatemekashkouie3662
@fatemekashkouie3662 Год назад
@@DrTrefor I am supposed to solve differential equations for a dynamical systems course. Anyways, I think if I google every step, it will be somehow manageable.
@andrewharrison8436
@andrewharrison8436 Год назад
Some bits of maths are like p v np, really hard to first find the method (np), but manageable to verify that the solution works (p). Actually it isn't "some bits", it is a lot of the bits and it is cumulative - Newton's "If I have seen further than other men it is by standing on the shoulders of giants".
@robertcrompton2733
@robertcrompton2733 Год назад
Wow! Loved it!
@hvok99
@hvok99 Год назад
Wow that was so satisfying.
@Helibenone
@Helibenone Год назад
I love your vids could you do some on statistics and probability
@General12th
@General12th Год назад
Hi Dr. Bazett! Feynman's technique is one of my favorite in all of integral math.
@frenchimp
@frenchimp Год назад
So long as you are aware it owes nothing to Feynman.
@General12th
@General12th Год назад
@@frenchimp No. I'm not aware of that. Why don't you explain it to me?
@kylethompson1379
@kylethompson1379 Год назад
@@General12th Feynman is on video on youtube saying how he read it in a book, and anyway it's all just based on work done by Leibniz 100s of years ago. Feynman did re-popularise it though.
@adw1z
@adw1z 19 дней назад
Another way: I = Im[int(0,inf) e^(iz)/z dz] J = int(0,inf) e^(iz)/z dz Draw a semicircular contour of radius R in the top right quadrant of the complex plane, which goes around the simple pole at z = 0. The bottom contour -> J as r->inf. By the indentation lemma, the contribution around z = 0 pole is -i*pi/2 as epsilon goes to 0, where epsilon is the distance away from the pole of the contour going around 0. The contour from (infinity)i to 0 gives 0 contribution, as the integrand tends to 0. The circular contour joining R and iR tends to 0 as R tends to infinity by Jordan’s Lemma. The full contour contribution is 0 since it encloses no singularities. Thus, we have: J - i*pi/2 = 0 ==> J = i*pi/2 ==> I = int(0,infinity) sin(x)/x dx = pi/2 N.B sin(x)/x has a removable singularity at x = 0, and hence the integral converges. The same cannot be said for cos(x)/x; that integral diverges.
@giovanni1946
@giovanni1946 Год назад
You can't plug in s = 0 as the Feynman trick can only be applied with s > 0, due to the absolute convergence requirement, though the limit as s goes to 0 indeed equals pi/2
@miloweising9781
@miloweising9781 Год назад
Yeah you need to be careful when limiting to zero here. Probably there’s a nice dominated convergence argument to say that F is continuous at 0 from the right.
@xaxuser5033
@xaxuser5033 Год назад
@@miloweising9781 it is actually continus at x=0 and here is a complete proof of this fact: ( let f(s,x) be the function inside the integral ) -for all x>0 the function s --> f(s,x) is continus. -for all s in R : x-->f(s,x) is continus. - there exist a continus integrable and positive function g : R+--> R+ such that for all x>0 and for all s in R we have : |f(s,x)|
@giovanni1946
@giovanni1946 Год назад
@@xaxuser5033 That's not correct, as e^(-sx) -> 1 when s -> 0, which is not integrable on R+
@xaxuser5033
@xaxuser5033 Год назад
@@giovanni1946 i didn't understand what u want to say , where did i write e^(-sx) ?
@giovanni1946
@giovanni1946 11 месяцев назад
@@xaxuser5033 This theorem cannot be applied here, you can't choose g(x) to be e^(-x) as e^(-sx) gets bigger when s -> 0
@dfcastro
@dfcastro 11 месяцев назад
What if instead of during the integration by parts you apply again the Feymann technique and than (probably) will get a differential equation and solve it? Would it work?
@techsolabacademy9980
@techsolabacademy9980 Год назад
Dr. You are amazing❤
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Год назад
Thank you!
5 месяцев назад
Muy buen video Genio!
@imad5206
@imad5206 5 месяцев назад
good prof. thankks
@samueldeandrade8535
@samueldeandrade8535 7 месяцев назад
We live at a weird time. When doctors make videos with clickbaity titles. *Roll eyes*.
@CapAbcv
@CapAbcv 5 месяцев назад
Can we apply cauchy integral test here??
@cameronspalding9792
@cameronspalding9792 Год назад
@ 3:31 Personally I would have used the formula for sine in terms of complex exponentials
@anietiethompson5375
@anietiethompson5375 3 месяца назад
Please which app are you using to plot those functions?
@saidfalah4180
@saidfalah4180 5 месяцев назад
Can we use (sin x/x) / pi/2 in probability ?
@soufianehrilla5533
@soufianehrilla5533 Год назад
C'est juste très élégant
@md.musaal-kazim1774
@md.musaal-kazim1774 5 месяцев назад
we can use laplace transformation?
@ProfeJulianMacias
@ProfeJulianMacias Год назад
Excellent Math problem
@David-dvr
@David-dvr Год назад
Although this trick is named after Feynman, I believe he found it in an advanced calculus book his high school physics teacher gave him. It was apparently developed, at least partially, by Leibniz: “I had learned to do integrals by various methods shown in a book that my high school physics teacher Mr. Bader had given me. [It] showed how to differentiate parameters under the integral sign - it’s a certain operation. It turns out that’s not taught very much in the universities; they don’t emphasize it. But I caught on how to use that method, and I used that one damn tool again and again. [If] guys at MIT or Princeton had trouble doing a certain integral, [then] I come along and try differentiating under the integral sign, and often it worked. So I got a great reputation for doing integrals, only because my box of tools was different from everybody else’s, and they had tried all their tools on it before giving the problem to me.” (Surely you’re Joking, Mr. Feynman!) www.cantorsparadise.com/richard-feynmans-integral-trick-e7afae85e25c
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Год назад
Cool!
@andrewharrison8436
@andrewharrison8436 Год назад
Must reread my Feynman books - nice shout out by Feynman to his teacher.
@namelastname2244
@namelastname2244 Год назад
3:22 If s is 0 and not a positive, then why do you consider it a negative exponential?
@madhavpr
@madhavpr 2 месяца назад
Pretty cool trick. I'm okay with all the steps except perhaps the interchange of limit and the integral as s->infinity. Is there some theorem in real analysis that justifies this?
@moeberry8226
@moeberry8226 11 месяцев назад
It’s more common to think that when applying Feynmans trick that you would put the parameter s inside of the sin(x) function aka sin(sx). The only reason that you use this decreasing exponential function is that so it converges on the interval 0 to infinity because the original integral converges as well. If you use the first method then you will obtain cos(sx) after differentiation with respect to s. Which does not converge. You should explain it this way to the students on RU-vid.
@Ayush-yj5qv
@Ayush-yj5qv 4 месяца назад
true when i did this method i end up getting sin of infinite which i dont even know
@brianneill4376
@brianneill4376 Год назад
Pi devided by 2 amoubts to 1/3 of a Cubical measure. All measures are 3D so must be no more or less than Cubical or "Powered to 3", before and or after that are simply sizes that are fractions, Positive or negative to the control body size.
@maroc4747
@maroc4747 Год назад
Great explanation. My follow up question would be, why does this work and when should one use this trick? I only knew the Double integral solution for this Problem.
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Год назад
With a lot of these integration tricks, ultimately it works when it works. With some practice you can gain some intuition for when you can parameterize and integral and do this differentiate with respect to the parameter trick, but there isn't some general rule for when it always works.
@Toxic__rl
@Toxic__rl Год назад
any smart way to solve int of x^100 sinx dx?
@zegrirsaid2855
@zegrirsaid2855 9 месяцев назад
thank you
@jeremytimothy3646
@jeremytimothy3646 Год назад
This is just spiced up Laplace transforms 😂. Nice video though always happy to learn abit more math.
@anuragkr3026
@anuragkr3026 5 месяцев назад
I dont anymore people to know about it , Sometimes good things are not good to be shared ❤
@user-sn1lg9js6m
@user-sn1lg9js6m 8 месяцев назад
Is there a video for when it is allowed to change the order of an integral sign followed by a summation notation? Thank you.
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor 8 месяцев назад
I really should make this video
@xiangbocai-ns4sg
@xiangbocai-ns4sg 10 месяцев назад
What a fantastic method
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor 10 месяцев назад
Glad you think so!
@peterpan1886
@peterpan1886 11 месяцев назад
You can also view the integral as the imaginary part of the integral of e^(izx)/x, evaluated at z=1. Now integrating under the integral sign yields I'(z)=[e^(izx)/z]_0^\infty = -1/z for complex z with positive imaginary part. Hence I(z)=c-log(z). Remember that we are only interested in the imaginary part of I(z), therefore we only need the imaginary part of c. Now let the imaginary part of z approach infinity, while the real part remains constant. Then the imaginary part of log(z) will approach pi/2, while the integral of e^(izx)/x approaches zero. Hence Im(c)=pi/2 and the limit of Im(c-log(z)) as z approaches 1 is pi/2.
@vpambs1pt
@vpambs1pt Год назад
fuun, so the are under sin(x)/x over R is pi. This function is just, the typical sinusoidal sin(x), but as the x increases, it is divided by the factor x, so each period 2pi, it's just the sin wave getting "linearly" smaller. On the other hand, this scalling over each x, makes it such that the area over the whole domain is pi, which is the area of a circle of r=1. Which clearly has some meaning, the sin is constantly alternating its sign, and x is either x>0 or x
@edoardoferretti5493
@edoardoferretti5493 Год назад
What is the limit of F(s) as s goes to - infinity? Doesn't the relation we found fail since the integral is not bounded, while arctan is? How do I define the domain of validity of the identity?
@reeeeeplease1178
@reeeeeplease1178 Год назад
It may be that the step at 1:47 only works for positive s. What we are doing is interchanging 2 limits (pulling the derivative inside the integral), which we can't *freely* do
@utuberaj60
@utuberaj60 Год назад
Hi Dr Brazet. Wonderful video. But, I have a question here. Why is this method known as Feynman's technique? In fact the idea of Differentiating Under the Integral sign (DIUS) was due to Leibnitz, and also the idea of introducing a parameter 's' in the form e^-sx is the Laplace transform or can even be thought of as the Gamma function? Why do you then still call this the Feynman trick? Just wanted to know.
@itellyouforfree7238
@itellyouforfree7238 Год назад
Because at least in the physical community in the USA it has been popularized by Feynman
@anuragkr3026
@anuragkr3026 5 месяцев назад
Sometimes good thing are better not to be shared.
@RobinTester
@RobinTester Год назад
Complex analysis ON TOP
@EVERYTHING_FACTORY
@EVERYTHING_FACTORY Год назад
Please make a mathematics books recommendation video
@maxp3141
@maxp3141 Год назад
Nice, I think I would had inserted sin(x) = (e^ix - e^-ix) instead of integrating by parts, but I’m not sure if that makes things easier or not..
@active285
@active285 Год назад
Yes similarly! Using the Feynman trick here reflects the relation to complex analysis: Choosing the function f(z) = exp(iz)/z and integrate over the (positive) indented semicircle and some appropriate contour avoiding 0.
@Ron_DeForest
@Ron_DeForest Год назад
I’m sure this is beneath your notice but I have to ask and hope for the best. I need to know how to find a point in 3 space that’s equidistant from 3 other points. I’ve been looking online and for the life of my I can’t find how to do it. It’s been a very long time since I took any math classes.
@shivamkardam4608
@shivamkardam4608 Год назад
Amazing sir 😮😮😮😮😮
@puh8825
@puh8825 8 месяцев назад
That's insane
@airsquid8532
@airsquid8532 Год назад
Always a good day when Dr trefor bazette shows up in my RU-vid recommended
@mr_angry_kiddo2560
@mr_angry_kiddo2560 Год назад
Will you give a proof for Existence of local Maxima b/w two consecutive local minima😢
@phenixorbitall3917
@phenixorbitall3917 Год назад
Dr. for which class of function can one use the Feynman trick? It was satisfying to watch this video 👌
@Grassmpl
@Grassmpl Год назад
Doesn't feymann trick needs some sort of uniform convergence?
@journeymantraveller3338
@journeymantraveller3338 Год назад
Isn't Feynman's trick just using Liebniz's Rule on the Laplace transform? Also, the DI method works well for these IBPs .
@amauta5
@amauta5 8 месяцев назад
Is this the only way to solve the original integral?
@ulyssesfewl1059
@ulyssesfewl1059 7 месяцев назад
Did I miss something? At 1:29 if you set s = 0, you do not get back what you started with, since the entire exponent is zero if s = 0, and e^0 = 1.
@kaiserali5928
@kaiserali5928 Год назад
Sir I have a question to you. I am an Engineering student from Bangladesh. Sir I derived an alternative procedure or technique to solve a math content which is being solved in complex ways nowadays. Now I want to publish it. Can I use LaTeX to write my paper? Again how and where I can publish it. If you give me some piece of advice then it will be very helpful for me.
@JuanRomero-re4qz
@JuanRomero-re4qz Год назад
Perdón! Busca una revista científica de tú localidad, y midiendo el terreno puedes pasar a una publicación en idioma ingles.
@urnoob5528
@urnoob5528 Год назад
damn this is basically a laplace transform trick :O wat a coincidence that im learning laplace transform right now
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Год назад
Laplace transform is SO useful!
@sambhavgupta4653
@sambhavgupta4653 Год назад
Can't we use exponential definition of sine, (exp(ix)-exp(-ix))/2i to solve it?
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Год назад
This can replace part of the computation (the double integration by parts) but you still need to use some trick at the beginning before you can use this.
@sambhavgupta4653
@sambhavgupta4653 Год назад
Thanks! I'll try.
@mokouf3
@mokouf3 Год назад
And you use the same Laplace Transform / Feynman's Technique at start right? If yes, I recommend you use these rules instead: sin(x) = Im(e^xi) k * Im(z) = Im(kz) ∫ Im(z) dx = Im(∫ z dx)
@adamc973
@adamc973 Год назад
Easier to note that this is the imaginary part of e^(iz)/z over the interval [-infty,infty] in the complex plane, and work over a semi-circle contour in the upper half plane.
@padraiggluck2980
@padraiggluck2980 5 месяцев назад
When I listen to a Feynman lecture I hear a smart version of Ed Norton.
@MushookieMan
@MushookieMan Год назад
I thought the Laplace transform required a complex 's'. Does that affect this method?
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Год назад
It can be complex, but we ultimately are only using it to get this differential equation which we only evaluate at infinity and zero so it doesn’t matter if other values could be complex
@mokouf3
@mokouf3 Год назад
Remember real number set is a subset of complex number set. If an equation is valid in the whole complex plane, the same equation is valid in the whole real number line, all we need is to limit the imaginary part to 0.
@marciliocarneiro
@marciliocarneiro 7 месяцев назад
If we expand sin(x) in Taylor´s series and divide by x we obtain arctg(x) in just one step and the answer much more fast
@chunghimchu3313
@chunghimchu3313 Месяц назад
arctan (♾️) not only equal to π/2 , it can also be 5π/2, how do you prove that π/2 is an unique answer?
@maksgo498
@maksgo498 Год назад
I would use taylor
@maths_505
@maths_505 Год назад
The Dirichlet integral is AWESOME! I made a video on solving it using 5 different ways including Feynman's trick: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MuP6NtGwLTk.html
@daddy_myers
@daddy_myers Год назад
Damn. Imagine posting unsolicited ads for your channel.
@maths_505
@maths_505 Год назад
@@daddy_myers 😂😂😂 Who cares I'm the one who did a marathon on it. You think I wouldn't be hyping it 😂😂😂
@tolkienfan1972
@tolkienfan1972 Год назад
Nice!
@radmir_khusnutdinov
@radmir_khusnutdinov Год назад
I believe using the residue is the fastest way to calc that integral
@Volk715
@Volk715 8 месяцев назад
Well, Feynman was the first "hacker" in history...I'm not surprised about his ability to tackle dirichelet integrals..
@hippospudweb
@hippospudweb Год назад
Where can I get that t-shirt?
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Год назад
Merch link in description!
@LeviDanielBarnes
@LeviDanielBarnes 24 дня назад
But (3:25) if s=0, the exponential doesn't kill the cos term. This is not strictly valid for the value of s we care about.
@baptistebermond2082
@baptistebermond2082 Год назад
well it is beautiful, but the real question is can we define the function as continuous and derivable everywhere which makes the trick less evident
@thinkacademy8377
@thinkacademy8377 Год назад
I don't know why this is called Feynman's trick? differentiation under the integral sign is known before Feynman. It's just the application of Leibniz theorem for integrals dependent on a parameter!
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Год назад
Also, the types of integrals Feynman was considering were nothing like these, but nevertheless the attribution seems to stick
@frenchimp
@frenchimp Год назад
@@DrTrefor So why perpetuate the ridiculous notion that this technique is due to Feynman in these videos?
@toastyPredicament
@toastyPredicament Год назад
How
@akerosgaming7400
@akerosgaming7400 Год назад
I don't think the conditions needed to say that F is differentiable and take the partial differential inside the integral are there.
@bachirblackers7299
@bachirblackers7299 Год назад
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤thanks much
@fordtimelord8673
@fordtimelord8673 10 месяцев назад
Contour integration works great for this problem too. Using a semicircle contour and taking the imaginary part of the integral of e^iz/z is maybe even an easier method.
@revanth36
@revanth36 9 месяцев назад
Interestingly yes😀
@alphalunamare
@alphalunamare Год назад
Is 2:06 even legal? I suppose it must work in most common cases but can you prove it generally? I guess you can't and it is indeed strange. Anyway I really enjoyed that 🙂 It's a bit like with platonic solids, you differentiate its Volume formula and get its Surface Area formula ... and most people are convinced ...except that it only works for Platonic Solids not the general mish mash you'll meet in Real Physics.
@xl000
@xl000 Год назад
it must be weird to look and point at a green screen when saying "Like this one" at 0:04
@domc3743
@domc3743 Год назад
brother didnt mention why we can switch order of differentiation and integration, Leibniz rule applies because F(s) bounded and continuous
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor Год назад
Oh thanks, I actually had it in my notes to point this out verbally but somehow forgot to say it out loud during recording time:)
@ShanBojack
@ShanBojack Год назад
​@@DrTrefor can you elaborate it to me please sir
@shaun18
@shaun18 7 месяцев назад
I dumbass though I could just do the uv rule here as (x^-1)(sinx) then realised it would just keep adding x^n in the denominator in the second part of the uv rule 💀
@radekvecerka1115
@radekvecerka1115 7 месяцев назад
You should at least mention, that certain conditions need to be met in order to be able to use this method
@ACh389
@ACh389 2 месяца назад
It doesn't bother you take the partial inside of the integral. You have to use DCT in order to be able to do that but you completely ignored that. Great!
@duckyoutube6318
@duckyoutube6318 9 месяцев назад
What doesnt Feynman destroy? Guy was a beast.
@bobdavisbeta
@bobdavisbeta 9 месяцев назад
All the physicists think that this method is Feynman trick but it existed way way before. It is a little abusive to atribute the credit to Feynman when this is actually extremely classical.
@dylangabriel2703
@dylangabriel2703 8 месяцев назад
Every physicist knows that the integration technique existed before Feynman, it’s just kind of that Feynman was famous for using it.
@olegzubelewicz3604
@olegzubelewicz3604 Год назад
Mr. Feynman thought that math began with him. 🤣
@yesiamrussian
@yesiamrussian 3 месяца назад
cannot believe you forgot the + c
@davidwright5719
@davidwright5719 Год назад
Argh, don’t use double integration by parts here. Just use sin(x) = (e^{ix} - e^{-ix})/(2i) to get an integral involving only exponentials. This is almost always the best way to do almost any calculus problem involving trig functions. (Also non-calculus problems. Never worry about remembering a double-angle formula again.)
@piyusharora5327
@piyusharora5327 Год назад
Our professor taught like what you are saying when he was teaching the same thing in video in the name of Laplace transform.
@saleemshaya67
@saleemshaya67 9 месяцев назад
@welldonehuang9133
@welldonehuang9133 Месяц назад
✌yes,good vedio
@walter274
@walter274 2 месяца назад
If you're a stat person, this is a lot like an MGF.
@warhurst1968
@warhurst1968 Год назад
An important caveat: this is true of the Riemann integral but not the Lebesgue integral.
@frenchimp
@frenchimp Год назад
Why do you try to confuse Americans with all those European names? Feynmann trick, no caveats, that's the beauty of it!
@warhurst1968
@warhurst1968 Год назад
@@frenchimp sin(x)/x is Riemannian integrable but not Lebesgue integrable over R.
@frenchimp
@frenchimp Год назад
@@warhurst1968 Well it's not Riemann integrable, it's an improper integral.
@warhurst1968
@warhurst1968 Год назад
@@frenchimp Fair enough, but that's the point, you have be careful about what you mean by integrable with this example.
@tanwarsingh396
@tanwarsingh396 9 месяцев назад
Sir you can generate the WhatsApp group for all mathematics candidates
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